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Principia Discordia => Or Kill Me => Topic started by: Faithless on March 14, 2009, 02:21:48 AM

Title: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: Faithless on March 14, 2009, 02:21:48 AM
If the Earth were human, and were to visit a doctor, what would the prognosis be? Unstable subsurface ruptures, rapid pressure changes, inconsistant body temperatures that change radically, and apparently a racking cough. But the prognosis would be incomplete if the doctor left it at that. What about the native viruses all turning on one another? What about the viruses attacking healthy tissues? It would seem as if the Earth had AIDS. Now where does that put Us? Every time I read a newspaper, watch the news, or simply look outside it seems that we are indeed all just circling the drain, waiting to be flushed.

Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: Requia ☣ on March 14, 2009, 02:32:23 AM
Diagnosis: Skin rash.
Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: potato on March 14, 2009, 03:28:12 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Na9-jV_OJI
Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 14, 2009, 06:01:01 AM
Quote from: Faithless on March 14, 2009, 02:21:48 AM
If the Earth were human, and were to visit a doctor, what would the prognosis be? Unstable subsurface ruptures, rapid pressure changes, inconsistant body temperatures that change radically, and apparently a racking cough. But the prognosis would be incomplete if the doctor left it at that. What about the native viruses all turning on one another? What about the viruses attacking healthy tissues? It would seem as if the Earth had AIDS. Now where does that put Us? Every time I read a newspaper, watch the news, or simply look outside it seems that we are indeed all just circling the drain, waiting to be flushed.



The prognosis would be a mild fever and an infestation of tiny hominids.  And who wouldn't want that?
Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: Requia ☣ on March 14, 2009, 06:37:00 AM
The good news is, fever kills infestations.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 14, 2009, 07:06:11 AM
Quote from: Requia on March 14, 2009, 06:37:00 AM
The good news is, fever kills infestations.   :lulz:

No, it kills microbes.  It just drives the little parasites to evolve to adapt to changing conditions.  If history is any indication, however, this drive may improve the engineering skills of the tiny primates, but will not do a damn thing for their actual intelligence.
Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: Thurnez Isa on March 14, 2009, 07:10:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eScDfYzMEEw&feature=channel_page

seemed semi appropriate
at least the last half
Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 15, 2009, 01:45:15 AM
Yes, well, in addition to all of that other stuff, it is all, indeed, Literally Circling the Drain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagittarius_A*)
Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 15, 2009, 01:48:19 AM
Quote from: Faithless on March 14, 2009, 02:21:48 AM
If the Earth were human, and were to visit a doctor, what would the prognosis be? Unstable subsurface ruptures, rapid pressure changes, inconsistant body temperatures that change radically, and apparently a racking cough. But the prognosis would be incomplete if the doctor left it at that. What about the native viruses all turning on one another? What about the viruses attacking healthy tissues? It would seem as if the Earth had AIDS. Now where does that put Us? Every time I read a newspaper, watch the news, or simply look outside it seems that we are indeed all just circling the drain, waiting to be flushed.



"Everything falls apart, one way or another"
Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: Pope Lecherous on March 15, 2009, 02:07:52 AM
Quote from: Faithless on March 14, 2009, 02:21:48 AM
If the Earth were human, and were to visit a doctor, what would the prognosis be? Unstable subsurface ruptures, rapid pressure changes, inconsistant body temperatures that change radically, and apparently a racking cough. But the prognosis would be incomplete if the doctor left it at that. What about the native viruses all turning on one another? What about the viruses attacking healthy tissues? It would seem as if the Earth had AIDS. Now where does that put Us? Every time I read a newspaper, watch the news, or simply look outside it seems that we are indeed all just circling the drain, waiting to be flushed.

Remedy: Xenocide via pesticide

Let's go to other planets and fuck those up
Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: Faithless on March 16, 2009, 07:13:14 AM
I truly hope that we don't, the corruption that we represent might infect the universe
Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 16, 2009, 08:08:29 AM
Humanity: The universe will be destroyed. One planet at a time  :lulz:
Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: hunter s.durden on March 16, 2009, 01:40:56 PM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on March 14, 2009, 07:10:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eScDfYzMEEw&feature=channel_page

seemed semi appropriate
at least the last half

This is what I was about to look for as soon as I read OP.

I wish we were the crazy threat people speak of. At least then we'd be a little significant.
Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: Faust on March 16, 2009, 02:13:16 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 16, 2009, 08:08:29 AM
Humanity: The universe will be destroyed. One planet at a time  :lulz:
Don't be silly were not getting off this rock.

Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: AFK on March 16, 2009, 02:28:21 PM
Quote from: Faithless on March 14, 2009, 02:21:48 AM
If the Earth were human, and were to visit a doctor, what would the prognosis be? Unstable subsurface ruptures, rapid pressure changes, inconsistant body temperatures that change radically, and apparently a racking cough. But the prognosis would be incomplete if the doctor left it at that. What about the native viruses all turning on one another? What about the viruses attacking healthy tissues? It would seem as if the Earth had AIDS. Now where does that put Us? Every time I read a newspaper, watch the news, or simply look outside it seems that we are indeed all just circling the drain, waiting to be flushed.



The Earth will be quite fine with or without us.  We are just a moment in time. 
Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 16, 2009, 03:16:28 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 16, 2009, 02:13:16 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 16, 2009, 08:08:29 AM
Humanity: The universe will be destroyed. One planet at a time  :lulz:
Don't be silly were not getting off this rock.



We have to. This thing is much bigger than just polluting and ruining one lousy planet.
Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: Faust on March 16, 2009, 04:30:34 PM
Pipe dreams!
We wont get the oppertunity to get off this rock because of the level of organisation that would be needed. Christ we cant even get control over this ecosystem let alone make one one elsewhere.
Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: Aufenthatt on March 16, 2009, 04:42:07 PM
You don't need control to make an eco system.
Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: Faust on March 16, 2009, 04:44:57 PM
Quote from: Aufenthatt on March 16, 2009, 04:42:07 PM
You don't need control to make an eco system.
if you have no intrest in going from none to livable for humans then thats right you dont.
Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 16, 2009, 06:58:54 PM
So many of us have species megalomania... the thought that we can "destroy the Earth". We can't destroy it, all we can do is make it inhospitable for ourselves and for other species. When we fuck it up thoroughly enough, we die back and the planet keeps on spinning. All these campaigns about "being kind to the planet" and "Protecting the Earth" are ridiculous simply because in a momentary geological shrug, our civilizations will be rendered moot and survivors will be starting from scratch. Environmentalism is great, but let's be clear on whose environment we're protecting; we're selfish bastards.
Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: Cramulus on March 16, 2009, 07:03:22 PM
I hope that one day, we'll met alien species which also carries around a collective guilt for nuking their planet's ecosystems.

Would we still feel guilty if we joined a spage-age federation of starfaring species, all of which had eradicated their home planet during their species' development?

Maybe aliens accept that on a long enough timeline, any ecosystem bearing intelligent life is doomed.
Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 16, 2009, 07:31:40 PM
My theory is that, unless you leave the planet at some point, any sentient race will eventually break the fucking thing. With this level of intelligence comes the ability to multiply and survive way beyond the point of sustainability. We use up exponentially more of the ecosystem than any other comparably sized primate.
Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: Pope Lecherous on March 16, 2009, 08:08:10 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 16, 2009, 07:31:40 PM
My theory is that, unless you leave the planet at some point, any sentient race will eventually break the fucking thing. With this level of intelligence comes the ability to multiply and survive way beyond the point of sustainability. We use up exponentially more of the ecosystem than any other comparably sized primate.

If we were sufficiently advanced i'm sure the ecosystem would be a place we reside vs. a source for everything we need.
Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 16, 2009, 08:48:32 PM
If we ever crack star-trek style replicator technology then yeah but along with that will probably come things like ridiculously extended lifespans. At that point it's either take to the stars, population control (always a touchy issue) or standing room only.
Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: Pope Lecherous on March 16, 2009, 08:57:49 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 16, 2009, 08:48:32 PM
If we ever crack star-trek style replicator technology then yeah but along with that will probably come things like ridiculously extended lifespans. At that point it's either take to the stars, population control (always a touchy issue) or standing room only.

would you raise the money it would take to put me in a mansion orbiting earth?  I'd bring you along and bitches too, and drugs if you like those
Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: Aufenthatt on March 16, 2009, 09:11:46 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 16, 2009, 04:44:57 PM
Quote from: Aufenthatt on March 16, 2009, 04:42:07 PM
You don't need control to make an eco system.
if you have no intrest in going from none to livable for humans then thats right you dont.

Micro management is unsustainable.
Make it work, and make it work without eco bureaucracy.
Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: Faust on March 16, 2009, 09:25:54 PM
Quote from: Aufenthatt on March 16, 2009, 09:11:46 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 16, 2009, 04:44:57 PM
Quote from: Aufenthatt on March 16, 2009, 04:42:07 PM
You don't need control to make an eco system.
if you have no intrest in going from none to livable for humans then thats right you dont.

Micro management is unsustainable.
Make it work, and make it work without eco bureaucracy.
who said micromanagement.
Feedback control on some broad control variables would do fine.
Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 16, 2009, 11:41:18 PM
Quote from: Nigel on March 16, 2009, 06:58:54 PM
So many of us have species megalomania... the thought that we can "destroy the Earth". We can't destroy it,

:x
Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: Pope Lecherous on March 16, 2009, 11:54:53 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 16, 2009, 11:41:18 PM
Quote from: Nigel on March 16, 2009, 06:58:54 PM
So many of us have species megalomania... the thought that we can "destroy the Earth". We can't destroy it,

:x

We can't?
Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 16, 2009, 11:59:02 PM
Quote from: Pope Lecherous on March 16, 2009, 11:54:53 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 16, 2009, 11:41:18 PM
Quote from: Nigel on March 16, 2009, 06:58:54 PM
So many of us have species megalomania... the thought that we can "destroy the Earth". We can't destroy it,

:x

We can't?

And after all that planning.

Now what the FUCK am I gonna do with all these radioactive gorillas?
Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: Faithless on March 17, 2009, 12:13:29 AM
Quote from: Nigel on March 16, 2009, 06:58:54 PM
So many of us have species megalomania... the thought that we can "destroy the Earth". We can't destroy it, all we can do is make it inhospitable for ourselves and for other species. When we fuck it up thoroughly enough, we die back and the planet keeps on spinning. All these campaigns about "being kind to the planet" and "Protecting the Earth" are ridiculous simply because in a momentary geological shrug, our civilizations will be rendered moot and survivors will be starting from scratch. Environmentalism is great, but let's be clear on whose environment we're protecting; we're selfish bastards.
Few see things this way, and you are undoubtedly correct. If we mess up too bad, we will all die, but the Earth will be fine, unless of course we figure out a way to kill it along with ourselves. Imagine if we could develope antimatter? THEN we could take this little rock out with us.
Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: Faithless on March 17, 2009, 12:14:56 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 16, 2009, 07:03:22 PM
I hope that one day, we'll met alien species which also carries around a collective guilt for nuking their planet's ecosystems.

Would we still feel guilty if we joined a spage-age federation of starfaring species, all of which had eradicated their home planet during their species' development?

Maybe aliens accept that on a long enough timeline, any ecosystem bearing intelligent life is doomed.
The scary part is that you are correct, life comes at a cost. Intelligence, even more so.
Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: Pope Lecherous on March 17, 2009, 12:16:08 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 16, 2009, 11:59:02 PM
Quote from: Pope Lecherous on March 16, 2009, 11:54:53 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 16, 2009, 11:41:18 PM
Quote from: Nigel on March 16, 2009, 06:58:54 PM
So many of us have species megalomania... the thought that we can "destroy the Earth". We can't destroy it,

:x

We can't?

And after all that planning.

Now what the FUCK am I gonna do with all these radioactive gorillas?

What am i going to do with my DEEElux hadRON KOlider now?

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                                   :mullet:
Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: Elder Iptuous on March 17, 2009, 12:22:00 AM
(http://www.4colorrebellion.com/media/pics/08/04/killface.jpg)
Title: Re: Its all circling the drain.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 17, 2009, 06:54:04 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 16, 2009, 11:41:18 PM
Quote from: Nigel on March 16, 2009, 06:58:54 PM
So many of us have species megalomania... the thought that we can "destroy the Earth". We can't destroy it,

:x

Sorry, man, but at this point all we have are megalomaniacal fantasies, like "what if we developed antimatter".

As a species, we like to imagine that we are so intelligent that our own self-destructive competitive urges could take out the entire planet. We essentially base these on nothing other than the fact that we can visualize the planet, circling in the solar system, in the galaxy, in the universe. This amount of understanding makes us feel powerful, yet it stands for nothing. It stands for enough self-awareness to realize that we are being destructive, without enough self-awareness to understand that we are being destructive to ourselves, and that the planet doesn't care, nor do we have the power we like to futilely imagine we hold to destroy the planet ourselves.

People invented the concept of gods in order to imagine ourselves as gods. The only people who evolved past that to the point of recognizing the gods as elemental forces we cannot overcome have been overcome by the megalomaniac faction. This is manifest destiny; the stupid overpowering the insightful. This is how we can understand that might does not make right.