Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Or Kill Me => Topic started by: Richter on March 31, 2009, 12:05:55 AM

Title: End of March ego shakedown
Post by: Richter on March 31, 2009, 12:05:55 AM
ARG.  What the cockgrating hell?
Suffer Fools.  Which chickenscrewing genius came up with that idea.  Fool should be punished in a way that provides us the best ratio of amusement and convenience.

This sounds too "Us vs. Them"?  I can make it "Me vs. All you meatheads".  The ephemeral "they" is any stupid fuck who has the bad luck to get in front of me.  I AM NATURAL FORCE.  DEAL WITH IT.  YOU CAN DO THIS TOO.  ASK ME HOW.

Things currently existing are drivetrain of two very different gears. 

There is NICE.  I like NICE.  NICE is where we can behave for the most part like fucktards who remember why people in Ur got together to be "civilized" in the first place.  NICE is where we can not be tribal, get along, and play at a society because it's better than the alternative.  NICE should not have to tolerate those who don't want to play.  It should eject them.  A dog can learn not to shit on the rug.  It takes a person to understand it's to keep the place looking nice, because keeping a place nice is a pleasant thing, and there's no room for folk who can't get it or be trained.  If they always shit the rug, throw them out of the house.  Keeps it NICE in here.

The other gear is BAD.  BAD is where viciousness, malice, and selfishness are survival mechanisms.  Whatever you have someone will want, and gleefully take from you.  This includes the fine garnish your cerebellum would make for their soup.  BAD is letting your Id drive, tempered with pragmatism.  It makes the cast of every "Conan" movie look like Humphrey Bogart.  Some days, BAD seems like an awfully good idea for the short, screaming painful experience it would be.  A flip of the wrist and a slip to the red. Goodnight and good luck.

HNAAA.   POPETRAIN.
Title: Re: End of March ego shakedown
Post by: Jenne on March 31, 2009, 12:57:16 AM
I like this.
Title: Re: End of March ego shakedown
Post by: Cramulus on March 31, 2009, 01:00:11 AM
yeah, I dig.

It's like

:kojak: vs  :discord:
Title: Re: End of March ego shakedown
Post by: Richter on March 31, 2009, 01:32:35 PM
Just a brainventing, straight from the head, content unedited.
I may clean up the middle part about NICE vs. BAD for future use / more public posting, but it needs to come off less "black or white".
   
Title: Re: End of March ego shakedown
Post by: LMNO on March 31, 2009, 01:44:55 PM
I've been reading Reich's "Mass Psychology of Fascism", which (in part) posits that the human character has three elements: 

The "natural self" which is mostly subconscious (and, because it's Reich, mostly sexual).

The "brutish self" which is what happens when the natural self is repressed and suppressed (religion, anti-sex morality, et al)

The "social self" which is the thin veneer of politeness we learn to use to deal with other humans.


It's pretty easy to use this model to describe large swaths of human interactions, from websites to subway cars. 

Just a stray thought that came to me as I was reading your piece.
Title: Re: End of March ego shakedown
Post by: Richter on March 31, 2009, 07:58:12 PM
He was one of Freud's contemporarys, IIRC.
Seems suspiciously close, I'll have to read.

Is it worth the price for the hard copy?
Title: Re: End of March ego shakedown
Post by: LMNO on March 31, 2009, 08:00:48 PM
He was one of Freud's students.  Discovered "Orgone", had all his books burned in the 50's by the AMA for saying that sexuality and genitals were not connected, and that infants & pre-pubescents had sex lives.


Cain has an electric copy in one of the Discordian collections in the Library.
Title: Re: End of March ego shakedown
Post by: Faithless on April 04, 2009, 10:46:30 PM
This begins to make far too much sense. To throw out the garbage, on a human scale. Well, at least there would be a fortune to be made digging the graves.
Title: Re: End of March ego shakedown
Post by: Aufenthatt on April 04, 2009, 10:51:00 PM
Quote from: Faithless on April 04, 2009, 10:46:30 PM
This begins to make far too much sense. To throw out the garbage, on a human scale. Well, at least there would be a fortune to be made digging the graves.

Ever read John stuart Mill?
Title: Re: End of March ego shakedown
Post by: Faithless on April 04, 2009, 10:53:22 PM
Quote from: Aufenthatt on April 04, 2009, 10:51:00 PM
Quote from: Faithless on April 04, 2009, 10:46:30 PM
This begins to make far too much sense. To throw out the garbage, on a human scale. Well, at least there would be a fortune to be made digging the graves.

Ever read John stuart Mill?
I cannot say that I have. What does this man write?
Title: Re: End of March ego shakedown
Post by: Aufenthatt on April 04, 2009, 10:58:31 PM
He was a second wave Utilitarian, with a abnormally developed intelect and stunted emotions.
Go read "On Liberty", then come and tell me your views on gassing out the people we don't like.
Title: Re: End of March ego shakedown
Post by: Faithless on April 04, 2009, 11:19:21 PM
Quote from: Aufenthatt on April 04, 2009, 10:58:31 PM
He was a second wave Utilitarian, with a abnormally developed intelect and stunted emotions.
Go read "On Liberty", then come and tell me your views on gassing out the people we don't like.
I have to taste for mass murder, history shoes that it only pisses off the rest of the world. The obvious moral issues aside, I couldn't condone such an action, but to send all the nuts to, say, one of Jupiters moons,  now that would be an Idea.
Title: Re: End of March ego shakedown
Post by: Aufenthatt on April 04, 2009, 11:27:37 PM
Not if it turns out you've sent all the useful ones away, and actualy what you are is the problem.
Title: Re: End of March ego shakedown
Post by: Faithless on April 04, 2009, 11:30:51 PM
Quote from: Aufenthatt on April 04, 2009, 11:27:37 PM
Not if it turns out you've sent all the useful ones away, and actualy what you are is the problem.
Perhaps, if so then maybe I should be the first to go.