HI i had this idea the other day, and it might take some explaining... but i'll give it a shot...
Basically it started out when i was looking at cram's swine flu things... and I wanted to change them a bit, to make them more official looking, but I also wanted to get rid of the Discordian society stamp, I thought, if people are going to read this, discordianism is going to lead them here (or hereabouts), pretty fast, fun over when they find its a complete joke.
So i thought.. what if a few searches would lead them to something wholly more sinister (but still faked)?
The GAS.
Currently if you search it you get nothing worthwhile, so a wikipedia page would have to be created linking it various crimes/hoaxes over the last few decades. Also, unless you have already been exposed to discordianism, that name would have very little meaning to you, which in my book is another advantage.
Basically, the intent, is to pull off rather large scale hoaxes, disguised as crimes. My plan is to mindfuck as many people as possible, in a way that seems illegal, but is entirely within the law... then link all these events back to one single organisation.
Example? Well, the idea I had recently that sparked off this train of thought went like this:
Loads of rubber ducks, or possible paper boats, released into the local river (starting fairly high upstream), all the ducks have two stickers, one says "open me", the other "courtesy of the xxx"... inside the ducks are small packets of oregano labelled smoke me.
Thus GAS could be protrayed as a sort of choas based drug smuggling ring, but rather then trying to make a profit, they are just trying to get everyone stoned :p
Basically what I need help with follows:
- Backstory for wikipedia
- Suitable paper trail that will lead the fairly interested to believe there is actually some sort of bizarre jokecrime syndicate behind it
- Further ideas for pranks
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EDIT: ground nutmeg looks quite a lot like heroin... some mileage in that me thinks...
So the idea is to try and invoke the myth of the Aggressive Drug Dealer (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheAggressiveDrugDealer) by distributing bogus drugs in an outrageous manner?
I think this is hilarious. :lulz: I mean, getting caught would suck (having to explain the joke and thus ruin it to avoid getting in trouble), but on the other hand, who's planning on getting caught?
Quote from: Cainad on May 03, 2009, 04:41:55 PM
So the idea is to try and invoke the myth of the Aggressive Drug Dealer (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheAggressiveDrugDealer) by distributing bogus drugs in an outrageous manner?
I think this is hilarious. :lulz: I mean, getting caught would suck (having to explain the joke and thus ruin it to avoid getting in trouble), but on the other hand, who's planning on getting caught?
Yeh, I'm kinda obsessive about not getting caught, so I'm gonna do some serious "looking at the LAW" so I know exactly which loopholes i can exploit to my nefarious benefit*... i may need to find some money and start amassing an army of rubber duckies also.. :)
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*such as the fact that in most towns that have a market etc. it is illegal to sell anything on the street without a liscense.. however, it is totally legal to
give away stuff and ask for donations :)
Ohh.. also.. I need a symbol... any ideas? I want it to have the obvious apple connotations, but not be an obvious "oh for fucks sake its
those guys again"
In several states it's a crime to distribute fake drugs.
Balls. I was worried about that. :sad:
im not sure if this would help,
but it might be cheaper to make a cast of a rubber duck than use silicon to make the duck. Silicon is pretty cheap and it shouldn't be to hard to make a cast +way less toxic than rubber/plastic. It would require more effort to make but it would decrease the paper trail back to you a bit.
here is a link to a zine that covers working with silicon more in the vein of sex toys but still applicable sorry couldnt find pdf
hxxxp://microcosmpublishing.com/catalog/title/241/
What about planning a couple other actions that add to the wtf your aiming for.
2002 someone placed a bunch of boxes with the word terror near subways in new york, this ended up in getting the artist incarcerated, but as im told this propelled them into the art world of new york.
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on May 03, 2009, 05:20:12 PM
In several states it's a crime to distribute fake drugs.
I knew some people who did the key 23 thing and had a stand outside of wal-mart offering up a new drug. Which amounted to powderized paper sigil with the intent of initiation. They lucked out and didnt get in trouble. I saw the pictures looked pretty balls.
I have also known people when i was in high school who got arrested and suspended for pretending to smoke weed (really just grass clippings or some shit).
Quote from: Cainad on May 03, 2009, 05:25:33 PM
Balls. I was worried about that. :sad:
There is always a loophole. I'm not going to actually be "distributing" them as such, not in the dealer type manner anyways, people will hopefully just jump to conclusions when they see a load of brown powder in a clear plastic bag.
As long as you don't actually
sell anything, you have done nothing wrong.
There is no "dishonesty crime" (read as fraud) because you have not lied to anyone about what the product is.
There is no drugs crime because there are no drugs.
But novatores point about bio-degradability is a point that may need looking into, i'm a bit of a hippy bout that sort of thing.
This is an interesting idea
I like the part about creating a grand conspiracy which all of our actions feed
I don't like the part where cops will begin investigating the local Discordian Society
[memetics]
is there a way to conceptualize this so that the person on this mission isn't endangering themselves?
[/memetics]
Quote from: Cramulus on May 03, 2009, 05:57:16 PM
I don't like the part where cops will begin investigating the local Discordian Society
I think this could be avoided by removing all Discordian references from the gag, if we're willing to do that. Seems a shame, but it would prevent religious discrimination against our little cult.
this thread would have to be erased if you were serious
best thing i could think ov is make every action that gets publicized a diversion to even stranger acts
for instance the media started pimping Michael Jacksons corpse during the police repression that occurred in Florida in 2003. Obviously such is a bit inaccessible, it does point to the power of diversionary tactics.
Always obscure your real intentions and keep raising the temperature.
Quote from: Novatore on May 03, 2009, 06:07:13 PM
this thread would have to be erased if you were serious
best thing i could think ov is make every action that gets publicized a diversion to even stranger acts
for instance the media started pimping Michael Jacksons corpse during the police repression that occurred in Florida in 2003. Obviously such is a bit inaccessible, it does point to the power of diversionary tactics.
Always obscure your real intentions and keep raising the temperature.
:bacon:
Quote from: Cainad on May 03, 2009, 06:02:39 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 03, 2009, 05:57:16 PM
I don't like the part where cops will begin investigating the local Discordian Society
I think this could be avoided by removing all Discordian references from the gag, if we're willing to do that. Seems a shame, but it would prevent religious discrimination against our little cult.
Yeh, thats what I had thought too... so.. any ideas name/logo wise?
Though I don't want people to be totally unable to work out where this comes from, 'cause as long as we stay inside the laws (and as cowardly as it sounds, it is
always more fun to mindfuck inside the law, 'cause they can't do shit about it...), we aren't really doing anything
wrong, and the more seriously people start taking it the more hilarious it gets..
Though if things start to get out of hand we will obviously have to give the game up...
Quote from: Novatore on May 03, 2009, 06:07:13 PM
this thread would have to be erased if you were serious
best thing i could think ov is make every action that gets publicized a diversion to even stranger acts
Always obscure your real intentions and keep raising the temperature.
1. Nah, if we do it well then people who get this far deserve to know IMHO
2. yes.
3. more yes.
why not crimethinc?
:bacon:
eventually your gonna get clogged arteries maybe you should excercise a bit switch up your diet, eat more veggies.
Quote from: Novatore on May 03, 2009, 07:05:59 PM
eventually your gonna get clogged arteries maybe you should excercise a bit switch up your diet, eat more veggies.
:bacon:
Quote from: Novatore on May 03, 2009, 06:57:54 PM
why not crimethinc?
Hmm... a dastardly plan...
frame crimethinc for petty prankery... then sow some links between crimethinc and an over-arching organisation, that probably displays the opposite ideologies, just to throw people a bit, start using some cryptic symbols, and I'll have recreated the Illuminatus! trilogy in the modern(er) world... without the fuck off submarine... though how hard can that be to fake?
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Quote from: TSosBR! on May 03, 2009, 07:08:47 PM
Quote from: Novatore on May 03, 2009, 06:57:54 PM
why not crimethinc?
Hmm... a dastardly plan...
frame crimethinc for petty prankery... then sow some links between crimethinc and an over-arching organisation, that probably displays the opposite ideologies, just to throw people a bit, start using some cryptic symbols, and I'll have recreated the Illuminatus! trilogy in the modern(er) world... without the fuck off submarine... though how hard can that be to fake?
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probably not that hard ive met a couple of crimethinc'ers they are a paranoid lot. but they know how to party. What Crimethinc is a Scientologist plot, did i hear that correctly.
:bacon:
Right, here's how i think it should be "organised"
Comical/Prankster anarchist movement - possible discordian references etc. (Name suggestions?)
linked to:
Crimethinc.
linked to:
Overarching syndicate, possibly with many illumniatus style references, or maybe... zalgo?
Ideally something a bit more obscure than those, 'cause people need to believe :) Anyone know of any largely unheard of cults/secret society we could use to pin this on?
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also, had another mild mindfuck idea. My city is on a river, so i might see if i can replace some of the life rings with those blow-up rubber rings for kids... or maybe inflatable crocodiles... i'll see whats available :)
DONT KNOW HOW COLD IT GETS IN YOUR AREA
heh sorry
but you can create pretty surreal art using steam vents
cobbling together bags and ducktaping them to the vent
ov course this isnt exactly enviro friendly
i suppose neither is throughing rubber rings into the river
shit
Tea Baggin
why not start a tea party
Quote from: Novatore on May 03, 2009, 07:43:58 PM
DONT KNOW HOW COLD IT GETS IN YOUR AREA
heh sorry
but you can create pretty surreal art using steam vents
cobbling together bags and ducktaping them to the vent
ov course this isnt exactly enviro friendly
i suppose neither is throughing rubber rings into the river
shit
Tea Baggin
why not start a tea party
i dont think there are any steam vents here... least not any ive seen...
i wasnt going to put the rings in the river, the life rings are on stands along the pathways near the river, just replace life rings with kiddy toys, instant hilarity :)
oh word definately, especially the ones that look like ducks
I've had more thoughts
Basically, it looks something like this:
The Gxxn Axx Sxxx: An "organisation" with strong ties to discordianism, which provides some framework fro people to hang their prankery on, but is stressed as being a largely harmless organisation. Links are then made with some of the philosophies of crimethinc, basically painting the picture of GAS as a delocalised, fun-loving arm of crimethinc.
I'll also whip up a logo that has obvious crimethinc affiliations.
So now we have crimethinc above GAS in the hierarchy... This is good, because if people do start to get in trouble, we can cut the links here claiming that the GAS -> crimethinc association was bollocks.
But we can still preserve the next level... :)
The Zenith of Angelic Liberation and Gnostic Orthodoxy
This is a religious cult movement, with some hints saying they had a hand in the founding of crimethinc, as a way to control opposition, this claim can be further "verified" by links between the their symbology, that is the leaders of the Zenith (five of course) are refered to as the dark hand --> crimethinc logo is a hand print.
the Zenith will claim to be behind every religious massacre etc. for thousands of years, and to have infiltrated/created a number of countercultural groups in order to manipulate them, and thus create an image of the counterculture that especially alienates those of the religious right who "share" their views.
Backstory of the Zenith will have to be pretty complex, and their actual motives will remain unknown... for now ;)
Plus, absolutely no direct mentions of ZALGO..
Then @ some point i suggest we liquidize this thread to cover our tracks ;)
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EDIT: removed all full name references to GAS...
tsosbr!,
covers its tracks... maybe an incy bit paranoid though..
Quote from: Cainad on May 03, 2009, 06:02:39 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 03, 2009, 05:57:16 PM
I don't like the part where cops will begin investigating the local Discordian Society
I think this could be avoided by removing all Discordian references from the gag, if we're willing to do that. Seems a shame, but it would prevent religious discrimination against our little cult.
Flase Flags. I recommend the pastafarians. if people end up thinking it was funny and worthwhile, the worst that will happen is they will claim credit and we'll have more reason to war with them.
Quote from: TSosBR! on May 03, 2009, 05:33:29 PM
Quote from: Cainad on May 03, 2009, 05:25:33 PM
Balls. I was worried about that. :sad:
There is always a loophole. I'm not going to actually be "distributing" them as such, not in the dealer type manner anyways, people will hopefully just jump to conclusions when they see a load of brown powder in a clear plastic bag.
As long as you don't actually sell anything, you have done nothing wrong.
There is no "dishonesty crime" (read as fraud) because you have not lied to anyone about what the product is.
There is no drugs crime because there are no drugs.
But novatores point about bio-degradability is a point that may need looking into, i'm a bit of a hippy bout that sort of thing.
ECH is right on this one. They can call fake selling/distribution any number of things (intent, fraud, unlicensed sales/distribution etc...). you'd have to get pretty fucking clever with this for there to me little or no risk. Malaclypse in Illuminatus! did something like this with vans transporting Cocain that blatently said "Cocain Distribution" until local authorities were conditioned to ignore these hoaxers. I dunno if something like that would work today.
Quote from: Novatore on May 03, 2009, 06:57:54 PM
why not crimethinc?
really? you can do better than tht, i'm sure.