Everybody remember the chain letter in the Principia? I believe that we should distribute the "Plant Your Seeds" letter, and, while we're at it, plant our own.
I've had this happen before, and, not much has ever given a greater Mindfuck waking up one morning and finding a carrot growing in my garden. We need to all plant some seeds, and freely distribute that page to people.
Anyone got a PDF of that page?
I've always thought
and I may be wrong
that the notion "Plant your seeds - keep prices down" was to encourage people to grow their own pot
if everybody homegrew pot
pot prices would decline for everybody
(a bit of the old supply & demand)
sending a printout of that page around with some seeds could be fun for a little random mindfuck-a-stranger
That's what I've thought for a while as well, but it's all about interpretations, am I right? :mrgreen:
And if we combine the two concepts we can randomly plant pot seeds in stranger's gardens? :lulz:
I can do that.
Some person that .. I do not know... once planted several seeds of some Erisian variety on the Statehouse lawn in Columbus, mostly in out of the way flower beds. There are those that say the five fingered hands were about 6 inches high before someone freaked out and went on a weed pulling exercise.
Interesting things that some people do....
Quote from: Cramulus on May 06, 2009, 01:39:43 AM
I've always thought
and I may be wrong
that the notion "Plant your seeds - keep prices down" was to encourage people to grow their own pot
if everybody homegrew pot
pot prices would decline for everybody
(a bit of the old supply & demand)
sending a printout of that page around with some seeds could be fun for a little random mindfuck-a-stranger
consider areas in the cascades where medical marijuana growers flourish, in Oakland (ok not really cascades at all) there is a street called Oaksterdam with its own weed growing college (im sure you've all seen super high me) anyways what im getting at is that there has been no price change in regards to the availability and quasi legal nature that pot has gained on the west coast.
Eventually you would hope that with such prevalent use the government would finally give up and legalize it already, but fuck if they arn't total :boring:
Quote from: Ratatosk on May 06, 2009, 04:28:47 PM
Some person that .. I do not know... once planted several seeds of some Erisian variety on the Statehouse lawn in Columbus, mostly in out of the way flower beds. There are those that say the five fingered hands were about 6 inches high before someone freaked out and went on a weed pulling exercise.
Interesting things that some people do....
I used to live in a town were there were a couple plants that sprouted one summer, they got really big before the police found then and they were downtown.
I know this is a sub-sub forum in a secret sub-forum, but none the less i would like to invoke one of our Most sacred tenants;
KYFMS
in days of yore, this was a very sacred tenant that allowed people in shifty, sordid traditions to continue what they were doing without outside interference (To know, To Dare, To Will- To Remain Silent)...
that said, here's an example of being able to talk while still KYFMS:
i knew someone who did this sort of thing once with those illicit seeds. planted them around his city hall, bus stops, parks, etc... it was fun, he said, and he enjoyed most watching them grow (and about as much that no one seemed to notice...) in the end, he told me, they were destroyed, but it seemed to be from maintenance workers more than Authority figures.
He had a lot of other neat ideas regarding this, too. planting them along roadsides with your state flower. state flowers are protected symbols- the bureaucracy won't let workers destroy state flowers (not that they WONT, mind you... but it's a good idea)...
ALSO
Plant your seeds chainletter is DEF about pot, not other types of plant. anyone is permitted to grow other types of plant, so long as they are not on the federal scheduling list, nor do they violate state law. There was also in at least one version i read a statement "Overgrow the Government!" - a rather incendiary remark suggesting subversive qualities. What so subversive about a carrot?
Quote from: Philly Fillet on May 07, 2009, 07:47:37 PM
Plant your seeds chainletter is DEF about pot, not other types of plant. anyone is permitted to grow other types of plant, so long as they are not on the federal scheduling list, nor do they violate state law. There was also in at least one version i read a statement "Overgrow the Government!" - a rather incendiary remark suggesting subversive qualities. What so subversive about a carrot?
Not much, really, but it makes for a good bit of a mindfuck, and isn't that the goal here?
Yeah, I know it's about pot, but pot in general is kind of hard to come by in the first place, at least in this area, which is why I proposed other such things, which aren't illegal anyway.
I know it's not so much revolutionary a asthetical, but at Lowes' you can get a packet of so-called "wildflower" seeds for a buck that covers a decent area of ground.
Grab a few packs and head over to that empty lot that's in your town. You know the one.
Quote from: LMNO on May 08, 2009, 04:28:05 PM
I know it's not so much revolutionary a asthetical, but at Lowes' you can get a packet of so-called "wildflower" seeds for a buck that covers a decent area of ground.
Grab a few packs and head over to that empty lot that's in your town. You know the one.
And there is a greater chance that these flowers wont be picked making your daily commute that much more beautiful
I think there IS something inherently subversive about planting food crops in public spaces, to tell the truth. Remember the Dust Bowl? Remember the crop surplus burned in the streets so the homeless couldn't eat them?
Quote from: Nigel on May 08, 2009, 06:28:08 PM
I think there IS something inherently subversive about planting food crops in public spaces, to tell the truth. Remember the Dust Bowl? Remember the crop surplus burned in the streets so the homeless couldn't eat them?
makes sense what right have those bastards [the homeless] to all that food which might otherwise go to waster, even if they might have fallen onto hard times but where ordinary decent tax paying folk prior. They [the homeless] would have wanted it that way if their situation was better.
Problem with food grown in vacant lots is there is a great deal of heavy metals and other chemicals which would be absorbed by the plants, which could cause major health problems farther down the line. this is why (though i like the idea) i am hesitant in participating in this project http://urbanedibles.org/ true someone could argue who cares our soil is already FUBAR.
I think growing plants which would hasten bio remediation to be better even if ineffectual.
Though from an aesthetic point of view food crops in unlikely places would be awesome.
The typical urban neighborhood vacant lot has no more heavy metal or toxins than the typical urban neighborhood back yard garden... the key is to stick to vacant lots that used to contain houses, not those which used to contain, say, dry cleaners.
In terms of heavy metals, lead in soil is not notably concentrated in vegetables, so that's not particularly a concern. Just don't eat the dirt!
Also, this might not have the potential to become an actual mission, I know.
I've already planted a few bags of seeds in a little lot down the road, though. Oughta liven things up a bit around here. Do you guys think this could actually be a widespread thing, though?
It's not bad, honestly. It's a way to modify your environment for the better, and I think that's cool.
For it to get really widespread though, the effect of the prank needs to be something that generates conversation.
Though it makes the neighborhood a bit prettier, merely seeing sunflowers growing in an empty lot will not blow anyone's mind
even if we coordinated 20 agents to do it all at once in different cities, it'd still be low on the radar
not to say that a successful mission has to operate on that scale
but it's good food for thought when trying to come up with the most ridiculous possible (though still feasable) mission.
I believe I will be participating in SeedGASM. I've begun to notice little squares of dirt and slices of peeking out from under the the asphalt topsoil of Yonkers. I wonder what seeds are best to poke in there...? what plants will need the least amount of care possible, and can grow in filthy stressful conditions?
If you are really going to do this, then I would mix your seeds in with a bit of dry fertilizer and put them in a ziplock bag then sprinkle the combination wherever. That will hep the seeds grow in places other stuff hasn't or won't.
If you wanted more Mindfuck potential, with a little planning you could design patterns or spell out words; uniform-colored flowers with high contrast to the area around it would work best.
There is this group here in St. Louis who plant daffodil bulbs along the side of the highway in smiley face shapes.
Quote from: Cramulus on May 11, 2009, 01:38:59 PM
I wonder what seeds are best to poke in there...? what plants will need the least amount of care possible, and can grow in filthy stressful conditions?
Sjaantze does landscaping and has a pretty extensive knowledge of plants... maybe she has some ideas on plants that would grow well in rough conditions...
Quote from: LMNO on May 11, 2009, 03:08:31 PM
If you wanted more Mindfuck potential, with a little planning you could design patterns or spell out words; uniform-colored flowers with high contrast to the area around it would work best.
Damn you for beating me to this.
Quote from: Ratatosk on May 11, 2009, 07:27:12 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 11, 2009, 01:38:59 PM
I wonder what seeds are best to poke in there...? what plants will need the least amount of care possible, and can grow in filthy stressful conditions?
Sjaantze does landscaping and has a pretty extensive knowledge of plants... maybe she has some ideas on plants that would grow well in rough conditions...
Cram:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=hardy+plants&aq=f&oq=
for a few ideas...
realistically, most plants that have a good cold/frost resistence are ideal. Also, low water-need plants work rather well. Also, cross check your seeds for the best times to plant, which varies from region to region. Yonkers is going to be vastly different growing conditions from the San Joaquin Valley.
Also also:
Carrots and the like, while practical, don't catch many eyes. Perhaps something like a Free Food patch with a perimeter of catchy, flashy flowers or something. Even just a sign in the area will alert the hungry that edibles are present. Personally, i have about 7 cherry tomato plants i'm planting in a local park where bums and such hang out a lot (i had this idea during the winter, and similar ones previously, but thought it too hippy for this board...alas). They'll have food starting around mid-summer from these plants (If they survive). the best part here is that cherry tomatoes are so prolific, just a few plants this year will mean quite a few more next year.
Okay, so i like plants. Call me a Volks Vegan.
Heh. I'm not sure about types, or whether or not the few I've got planted are going to survive long enough to actually sprout up. I should get some bulbs, they pretty much survive on their own, it seems. My mom's got a bunch of them, and without ever watering them, they all manage to sprout up every year.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerilla_gardening anyone?
also, about planting stuff into patterns, I think a whila ago I read in O:MF an idea to plant thicker, longer grass in letters or shapes in grass fields. Takes a few weeks before it appears, but after that it's incredibly hard to remove, even for years to follow. It's probably also considered vandalism on public property.
Quote from: Triple Zero on May 11, 2009, 11:56:25 PM
also, about planting stuff into patterns, I think a whila ago I read in O:MF an idea to plant thicker, longer grass in letters or shapes in grass fields. Takes a few weeks before it appears, but after that it's incredibly hard to remove, even for years to follow. It's probably also considered vandalism on public property.
Wait, how do you do that? Just more grass seed, or do you mean a different kind of grass?
Quote from: Triple Zero on May 11, 2009, 11:56:25 PM
It's probably also considered vandalism on public property.
yeah I bet you're right
but getting a vandalism ticket for planting flowers ? that's kind of rad! in some sense
Seed Bombing video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5TKNmeFRU4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5TKNmeFRU4)
Quote from: Triple Zero on May 11, 2009, 11:56:25 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerilla_gardening anyone?
also, about planting stuff into patterns, I think a whila ago I read in O:MF an idea to plant thicker, longer grass in letters or shapes in grass fields. Takes a few weeks before it appears, but after that it's incredibly hard to remove, even for years to follow. It's probably also considered vandalism on public property.
interesting idea, long dark grass in a short light colored lawn or vice versa, spelling out words or pictures..
Watermelons!
I have decided to go with watermelons. :mrgreen:
just found my unused stash of seeds. watermelons, cantelopes, peas, tomatoes, peppers to name a few.
april-june seems to be the best all-around time frame with some of my seeds prefering mid may. awesome timing i guess.
Reference Xeriscaping for ideas on plants that won't need as much water as most garden variety plants. It's been designed for water conservation concepts, but it looks like it would transfer to seedGASMing as well.
did you say Eris Scaping?
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Quote from: Cramulus on May 12, 2009, 07:29:37 PM
did you say Eris Scaping?
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:lulz:
Quote from: Crazzee on May 12, 2009, 12:19:08 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on May 11, 2009, 11:56:25 PM
also, about planting stuff into patterns, I think a whila ago I read in O:MF an idea to plant thicker, longer grass in letters or shapes in grass fields. Takes a few weeks before it appears, but after that it's incredibly hard to remove, even for years to follow. It's probably also considered vandalism on public property.
Wait, how do you do that? Just more grass seed, or do you mean a different kind of grass?
yes, different kind of grass. there's the short stuff generally used for lawns, which is actually less resilient than the more "wild" longer variety. that's all I know, though, ask a gardener :)
A current example of gardening pranks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOMSdH4qhaw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOMSdH4qhaw)
The same "cut out" technique can be used to create a completely different shade of grass on the grass itself, too, if you don't want to be as obvious as using flowers.
it would be worth grabbing a clipping of the mark's grass and trying to match it with a flora key in a book or online, then specifically finding grass of a much lighter/darker shade.
Most of the time, you can find sod (pre-grown grass) of a different shade than your mark's. this, in turn, can be precut (just take a damn knife to it, or a spade. but a knife is better) into the shapes you would want to stand out. proceed to your target, cut the shape(s) you've planned and plant. make sure to only cut as deep as the sod requires. too shallow, and that bit will get scalped every mow, too deep and it may not establish properly. better than using a shovel for this: a curved weeding knife (also known as a pruning or mushroom knife):
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(i discovered this to great amusment when i did landscaping and my boss laid some sod for a client. he didn't get the same type of grass, subsequently leaving a 2x3 foot dark patch.)
As for seeds and grass...could work, but likely not. more probable is that the seeds would sprout and then get choked and shadowed by the other grass, killing it off. while a lot of grass will produce seed if you let it get long enough, it's primary means of production is through expanding the roots and creating new shoots. This chokes out competing plants at the roots. (basically, any uniform lawn is nothing more than well groomed weeds.)
Quote from: Philly Fillet on May 07, 2009, 07:47:37 PM
I know this is a sub-sub forum in a secret sub-forum, but none the less i would like to invoke one of our Most sacred tenants;
KYFMS
in days of yore, this was a very sacred tenant that allowed people in shifty, sordid traditions to continue what they were doing without outside interference (To know, To Dare, To Will- To Remain Silent)...
that said, here's an example of being able to talk while still KYFMS:
i knew someone who did this sort of thing once with those illicit seeds. planted them around his city hall, bus stops, parks, etc... it was fun, he said, and he enjoyed most watching them grow (and about as much that no one seemed to notice...) in the end, he told me, they were destroyed, but it seemed to be from maintenance workers more than Authority figures.
He had a lot of other neat ideas regarding this, too. planting them along roadsides with your state flower. state flowers are protected symbols- the bureaucracy won't let workers destroy state flowers (not that they WONT, mind you... but it's a good idea)...
ALSO
Plant your seeds chainletter is DEF about pot, not other types of plant. anyone is permitted to grow other types of plant, so long as they are not on the federal scheduling list, nor do they violate state law. There was also in at least one version i read a statement "Overgrow the Government!" - a rather incendiary remark suggesting subversive qualities. What so subversive about a carrot?
home gardening of food is more subversive than you might think. It permits you to control what goes into your body. There's a reason that the corporations worked hard to eliminate home gardening in the cities during the early industrial revolution, those home gardens helped to support many strikes.
Quote from: Khara on May 12, 2009, 04:37:34 PM
Watermelons!
I have decided to go with watermelons. :mrgreen:
Watermelons can be a kind of a pain to grow, although it depends on where you live.
Wandering jews (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tradescantia_fluminensis) or other types of spider plants. Those things reproduce like CRAZY and you can't get rid of them. With wandering jews, that's all right because they're pretty but regular spider plants are ugly (imo). Introduce bermuda grass if you're not interested in being nice--that stuff is impossible to kill.
Scented geraniums are good for this, too, I think. You might have to watch it for a bit and make sure it gets established, but after that--as long as you don't live in a place with snow or hoar frosts--that shit will NEVER die and will spread further and further (this should be planted in an area without maintenance people).
Ornamental plants are my specialty. :/ Sorry I can't be more useful elsewhere.