Maine just ok'd gay marriage.
Come on, Rhode Island...the pressure is building...
WOO
(fuck you california)
GOOD JOB MAINE!
Woot. :)
Yay Maine!
California: :argh!:
THIS A CHRISTIAN NATION GODDAMN IT!
GO MAINE GO!
And not to worry, this just shores up the case against the Mormon-$'d backed bullshit we're fighting in the Supreme Court (one of them, anyway) atm.
Quote from: Jenne on May 07, 2009, 02:37:57 AM
And not to worry, this just shores up the case against the Mormon-$'d backed bullshit we're fighting in the Supreme Court (one of them, anyway) atm.
I'm
still livid that the Mormon church interfered with the election by funding those stupid ads. Seriously, we need a law that bans entities from outside the state from fund raising for props and such. It was neither Black Water's or the Mormon church's place to interfere with our politics.
Quote from: Laughtrack on May 07, 2009, 03:11:56 AM
Quote from: Jenne on May 07, 2009, 02:37:57 AM
And not to worry, this just shores up the case against the Mormon-$'d backed bullshit we're fighting in the Supreme Court (one of them, anyway) atm.
I'm still livid that the Mormon church interfered with the election by funding those stupid ads. Seriously, we need a law pention that bans entities from outside the state from fund raising for props and such. [snip]...or :?
Fixt. :lulz:
ETA: and yes, I agree. Fucking out of state Mormons can keep their monies to themselves. Spend it on yer underwares, ya buttholios! :argh!:
Quote from: LMNO on May 07, 2009, 12:44:25 AM
Maine just ok'd gay marriage.
ECH made them do it. He was howling something about "liberty for all", whatever the hell THAT is. Sounded like one of those guys with the long white wigs, back in the old days, you know, before WWII.
Then he devoured a congressman alive, just to drive the point home.
Do NEVER fuck with the weird. Or they'll kill you. And perverts will eat your brains.
Quote from: Jenne on May 07, 2009, 03:15:42 AM
Quote from: Laughtrack on May 07, 2009, 03:11:56 AM
Quote from: Jenne on May 07, 2009, 02:37:57 AM
And not to worry, this just shores up the case against the Mormon-$'d backed bullshit we're fighting in the Supreme Court (one of them, anyway) atm.
I'm still livid that the Mormon church interfered with the election by funding those stupid ads. Seriously, we need a law pention that bans entities from outside the state from fund raising for props and such. [snip]...or :?
Fixt. :lulz:
ETA: and yes, I agree. Fucking out of state Mormons can keep their monies to themselves. Spend it on yer underwares, ya buttholios! :argh!:
Point to you. Hey, something to add to the next round of props!
I wish! This reminds me: haven't had an update from my brother-in-law lawyerspag in-the-know...
I can hear the clamor of conservative marriages imploding already.
Wait no, it's just some Elton John.
Quote from: Jenne on May 07, 2009, 04:05:06 AM
I wish! This reminds me: haven't had an update from my brother-in-law lawyerspag in-the-know...
Two things:
A) We can totally do it! I have no idea how (something to find out, I suppose) but I think we can do it, if we try.
B) Keep us posted on the BiL's reports, yes?
:omg: i wonder if this is what causes the next civilwar
not that i dont wish their sweet asses well
Quote from: Yάttᶿ on May 07, 2009, 09:05:17 AM
:omg: i wonder if this is what causes the next civilwar
not that i dont wish their sweet asses well
A civil war based on if homosexuals can get married or not is totally gay.
:thanks:
Of course, this means there will be a referendum question on the next ballot to repeal this. So, it's a good step forward, but, it could possibly be short lived depending on where the people of Maine are with this issue. And I'm not so sure that they won't vote to repeal it, albeit narrowly.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 07, 2009, 03:26:49 AM
Quote from: LMNO on May 07, 2009, 12:44:25 AM
Maine just ok'd gay marriage.
ECH made them do it. He was howling something about "liberty for all", whatever the hell THAT is. Sounded like one of those guys with the long white wigs, back in the old days, you know, before WWII.
Then he devoured a congressman alive, just to drive the point home.
Do NEVER fuck with the weird. Or they'll kill you. And perverts will eat your brains.
From now on, this is how I will remember it as happening.
IZ CANON, BITCHES!
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on May 07, 2009, 11:05:21 AM
:thanks:
Of course, this means there will be a referendum question on the next ballot to repeal this. So, it's a good step forward, but, it could possibly be short lived depending on where the people of Maine are with this issue. And I'm not so sure that they won't vote to repeal it, albeit narrowly.
this.
and due to the way our legislative timing works, the law willgo into effect in 91 days.
the petition to put a referendum on the ballot must be turned in with signatures in 90 days, at which point the law will be suspended from becoming implemented while the referendum waits to pass or fail, which means that there will be no window of time during which actual gay people will be able to actually marry in Maine.
There are alot of fucktarded "family values" groups preparing to spend ALOT of money here to put the kibbosh on gay marriage in Maine. Any bright ideas that anyone might have as to what one lone pervert can do to combat this would be greatly appreciated.
There's a gay storm in Maine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYUHTXAFv1E&feature=PlayList&p=56AE126582CAD81E&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=4
Get Castine to become the Provincetown of Maine.
Here's what our esteemed Gov. John Elias Baldacci had to say:
Quote"In the past, I opposed gay marriage while supporting the idea of civil unions," Baldacci said in a statement read in his office. "I have come to believe that this is a question of fairness and of equal protection under the law, and that a civil union is not equal to civil marriage."
While I'm glad Baldacci signed the thing, could the guy have any less conviction?
Quote from: LMNO on May 07, 2009, 04:26:37 PM
Get Castine to become the Provincetown of Maine.
we already have one of those. It's called Ogunquit.
and the problem is that though gay marriage is probably slightly favored in Southern Maine (where most of the people are), it's likely to be HEAVILY opposed in northern/central/eastern Maine to the point where a statewide vote against gay marriage in the 55% range seems fairly likely.
Quote from: Geronimo on May 07, 2009, 04:25:26 PM
There's a gay storm in Maine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYUHTXAFv1E&feature=PlayList&p=56AE126582CAD81E&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=4
GAYSTORM
IT'S RAINING MEN!
Quote from: Nigel on May 07, 2009, 07:43:30 PM
Quote from: Geronimo on May 07, 2009, 04:25:26 PM
There's a gay storm in Maine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYUHTXAFv1E&feature=PlayList&p=56AE126582CAD81E&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=4
GAYSTORM
IT'S RAINING MEN!
It's what happens when you combine a rain dance and the wango tango.
It's great to see that that asshole from my state is "leading the fight" against The Gays.
I didn't vote for him. :crankey:
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on May 07, 2009, 07:42:17 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 07, 2009, 04:26:37 PM
Get Castine to become the Provincetown of Maine.
we already have one of those. It's called Ogunquit.
and the problem is that though gay marriage is probably slightly favored in Southern Maine (where most of the people are), it's likely to be HEAVILY opposed in northern/central/eastern Maine to the point where a statewide vote against gay marriage in the 55% range seems fairly likely.
Yep, and it's already begun: The signature collection drive is in motion.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30627832/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30627832/)
The citizen's initiative I think it a bit of a double-edged sword here in Maine. Especially when you have an issue like this one that is just about evenly split between the supporters and opponents. So Maine passes a law, the citizens vote it down. Maine passes a slightly different law a couple of years from now. It gets voted down again. Mainers like to think of themselves as independent, but as a State, we can be horribly indecisive as well.
I don't think that protecting the rights of a minority group should ever be left to the hands of the voters. Kind of defeats the whole purpose of having a representative democracy.
I mean, imagine if school desegregation in the south had been put to a popular vote?
Quote from: Nigel on May 07, 2009, 07:43:30 PM
Quote from: Geronimo on May 07, 2009, 04:25:26 PM
There's a gay storm in Maine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYUHTXAFv1E&feature=PlayList&p=56AE126582CAD81E&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=4
GAYSTORM
IT'S RAINING MEN!
OH MY GOD THE HOMO STORM GOT ME
Quote from: Geronimo on May 08, 2009, 04:03:54 PM
Quote from: Nigel on May 07, 2009, 07:43:30 PM
Quote from: Geronimo on May 07, 2009, 04:25:26 PM
There's a gay storm in Maine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYUHTXAFv1E&feature=PlayList&p=56AE126582CAD81E&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=4
GAYSTORM
IT'S RAINING MEN!
OH MY GOD THE HOMO STORM GOT ME
I WAS CAUGHT OUT IN THE STORM AND I CAUGHT THE GAY
I CAN HAZ MARRIAGE PLS?
The good news is that the fucking mouthbreathers will lose, slowly but surely they will lose and things will change.
Apparently the vast majority of college age Republicans really do not give a toss about gay marriage, or indeed much of social conservatism.
Admittedly, they still have to wrest control from a bunch of white haired hatemongers, but time is on their side, which always helps.
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on May 07, 2009, 04:15:44 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on May 07, 2009, 11:05:21 AM
:thanks:
Of course, this means there will be a referendum question on the next ballot to repeal this. So, it's a good step forward, but, it could possibly be short lived depending on where the people of Maine are with this issue. And I'm not so sure that they won't vote to repeal it, albeit narrowly.
this.
and due to the way our legislative timing works, the law willgo into effect in 91 days.
the petition to put a referendum on the ballot must be turned in with signatures in 90 days, at which point the law will be suspended from becoming implemented while the referendum waits to pass or fail, which means that there will be no window of time during which actual gay people will be able to actually marry in Maine.
There are alot of fucktarded "family values" groups preparing to spend ALOT of money here to put the kibbosh on gay marriage in Maine. Any bright ideas that anyone might have as to what one lone pervert can do to combat this would be greatly appreciated.
Yeah, CAns got a taste of that late last year. Mormon dollars spend in CA made sure Prop 8 passed with gusto. I'm still hoping it was that very fact that kicks Prop 8's ass in the Supreme Court--if it's a state decision, why are out of state influences allowed to spend money on one side of the dampaign?
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on May 08, 2009, 02:32:06 PM
I don't think that protecting the rights of a minority group should ever be left to the hands of the voters. Kind of defeats the whole purpose of having a representative democracy.
I mean, imagine if school desegregation in the south had been put to a popular vote?
Not to mention, esp in a state like CA, you need more than a simple majority to institute rights, so why only a simple majority to take them away? Fucking laem.
Quote from: My Hat is a-RWHNd here somewhere on May 07, 2009, 11:05:21 AM
:thanks:
Of course, this means there will be a referendum question on the next ballot to repeal this. So, it's a good step forward, but, it could possibly be short lived depending on where the people of Maine are with this issue. And I'm not so sure that they won't vote to repeal it, albeit narrowly.
With 70 percent of precincts reporting, so far it is 52% in favor of repealing the law legalizing gay marriage and 48% opposed. I hate being right sometimes.
So what happens if you got married in the interim? Do they null it, or make you get a divorce, or just pretend it never happened or what?
The law never actually went into effect because by the time it was going to go into effect the anti-gay marriage folks had already gathered the necessary signatures to put it to a referendum vote, and when that happens the law in question is suspended pending the outcome. I really thought that this was another place where Maine could be a leader in the country, but instead, it became another ugly follower.
Quote from: My Hat is a-RWHNd here somewhere on November 04, 2009, 11:18:18 AM
The law never actually went into effect because by the time it was going to go into effect the anti-gay marriage folks had already gathered the necessary signatures to put it to a referendum vote, and when that happens the law in question is suspended pending the outcome. I really thought that this was another place where Maine could be a leader in the country, but instead, it became another ugly follower.
What, petitions actually WORK?
Redacted.
And the right-wing theocrats are busy patting themselves on the back over it:
http://www.catholic.org/politics/story.php?id=34769
Quote"There's good news and bad news here," said Barber. "The good news is that even in one of the most liberal States in the Union, Maine, the people have once again rejected the ridiculous and oxymoronic notion of 'same sex marriage.' The momentum has again shifted – hopefully for good this time – in favor of protecting legitimate marriage.
"A counterfeit is a counterfeit. An orange is an orange no matter how much you want it to be a turnip. This isn't about 'marriage.' It's about hurting and broken people desperately seeking affirmation of an objectively deviant lifestyle. One that, even in their heart of hearts, they know to be a dead end. As for the militant 'No on 1' homosexual activists? I'm reminded of spoiled children dressing up and playing house, refusing to come in when mom calls for dinner".
"This is an historic battle for the minds and souls of our children – for our very culture. The mealy-mouthed approach must end. This is not just about 'marriage.' It has everything to do with forced affirmation of homosexuality – under penalty of law.
"Indeed everyone who fought hard to defend marriage in Maine is to be congratulated, but if it weren't for a brave group of truth tellers – Paul Madore, Peter LaBarbera and Brian Camenker – who came to Maine in the final hour to hold a press conference and address the pink elephant in the room – homosexual deviancy and the radical 'gay' agenda – counterfeit marriage might have prevailed."
RWHN, if you meet anyone who admits to voting for this you have my full permission from to kick them square in the balls. I'll provide bail money if necessary.
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on November 04, 2009, 04:44:54 PM
And the right-wing theocrats are busy patting themselves on the back over it:
http://www.catholic.org/politics/story.php?id=34769
QuoteTheres good news and bad news here, said Barber. The good news is that even in one of the most liberal States in the Union, Maine, the people have once again rejected the ridiculous and oxymoronic notion of same sex marriage. The momentum has again shifted hopefully for good this time in favor of protecting legitimate marriage.
"A counterfeit is a counterfeit. An orange is an orange no matter how much you want it to be a turnip. This isnt about marriage. Its about hurting and broken people desperately seeking affirmation of an objectively deviant lifestyle. One that, even in their heart of hearts, they know to be a dead end. As for the militant No on 1 homosexual activists? Im reminded of spoiled children dressing up and playing house, refusing to come in when mom calls for dinner".
"This is an historic battle for the minds and souls of our children for our very culture. The mealy-mouthed approach must end. This is not just about marriage. It has everything to do with forced affirmation of homosexuality under penalty of law.
"Indeed everyone who fought hard to defend marriage in Maine is to be congratulated, but if it werent for a brave group of truth tellers Paul Madore, Peter LaBarbera and Brian Camenker who came to Maine in the final hour to hold a press conference and address the pink elephant in the room homosexual deviancy and the radical gay agenda counterfeit marriage might have prevailed.
RWHN, if you meet anyone who admits to voting for this you have my full permission from to kick them square in the balls. I'll provide bail money if necessary.
THINK OF THE CHILDRINGS!
God I'm over that excuse for bigotry.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 04, 2009, 02:11:24 PM
See? ECH leaves, and everything goes to shit.
If he'd only been around to "accidently" spill coffee on more of those petitions... :argh!:
Quote
"A counterfeit is a counterfeit. An orange is an orange no matter how much you want it to be a turnip. This isn’t about ‘marriage.’ It’s about hurting and broken people desperately seeking affirmation of an objectively deviant lifestyle. One that, even in their heart of hearts, they know to be a dead end. As for the militant ‘No on 1’ homosexual activists? I’m reminded of spoiled children dressing up and playing house, refusing to come in when mom calls for dinner".
:cramstipated:
Quote from: Cramulus on November 04, 2009, 04:55:57 PM
Quote
"A counterfeit is a counterfeit. An orange is an orange no matter how much you want it to be a turnip. This isn't about 'marriage.' It's about hurting and broken people desperately seeking affirmation of an objectively deviant lifestyle. One that, even in their heart of hearts, they know to be a dead end. As for the militant 'No on 1' homosexual activists? I'm reminded of spoiled children dressing up and playing house, refusing to come in when mom calls for dinner".
:cramstipated:
We used to think that because we had power, we had wisdom. We used to think the train would travel down the track forever. But the train has failed the incline, and begins to backwards. The light of civilization dims and flickers, and we sit and remark about how awful it all is. As LMNO says, "Things fell apart, and nobody did much of anything."
This, alongside the crippled remains of our free press, is the price of our complacency...and it's just the beginning.
Maine needs to host a week-long BEARFORCE1 festival.
Bumpersticker ideas:
"We can't get back in the closet, James Madison is hiding there."
"We're having Big Gay Orgies. Boo!"
It looks like this may be on the ballot next fall for Rhode Island once the lame duck Republican fucktard of a governor we have is ousted. So far, no other conservative candidates have come forward to run, so we could have a Democratic run-off.
Don Carcieri is lobbying against gay marriage in Massachusetts. That's right, the governor of little Rhode Island, struggling to keep it's head about water, is caring more about issues in MA than worrying about the much more serious issues back home.
Naturally, our favorite Italian Gay Jew Providence mayor is all over that shit, but he can't even sign a contract for the firefighters union so...
Quote from: Suu on November 04, 2009, 06:07:28 PM
Don Carcieri is lobbying against gay marriage in Massachusetts. That's right, the governor of little Rhode Island, struggling to keep it's head about water, is caring more about issues in MA than worrying about the much more serious issues back home.
There
are priorities, Suu.
There's going to be a very French Revolution-style storming of the RI State House by the Tea Party if he doesn't do something soon.
Maybe we can get all the Bears to take a left as they're leaving P-Town for the winter.
Oh, Maine...I'm not sure whether I'm more saddened by the outcome itself or by the fact that it was so fucking inevitable.
Redacted.
Quote from: Suu on November 04, 2009, 06:40:33 PM
There's going to be a very French Revolution-style storming of the RI State House by the Tea Party if he doesn't do something soon.
If that looks imminent, let me know, and I'll send you a portable webcam.
Quote from: Lysergic on November 04, 2009, 01:27:04 PM
Quote from: My Hat is a-RWHNd here somewhere on November 04, 2009, 11:18:18 AM
The law never actually went into effect because by the time it was going to go into effect the anti-gay marriage folks had already gathered the necessary signatures to put it to a referendum vote, and when that happens the law in question is suspended pending the outcome. I really thought that this was another place where Maine could be a leader in the country, but instead, it became another ugly follower.
What, petitions actually WORK?
They do in Maine. A lot of laws get passed, or repealed, as a result of citizen initiatives in my state. One I was involved in back in the late 90s was on forestry regulations, specifically, a citizen initiative to ban clearcutting. And that came about because the Green Party got a bunch of signatures and got it on the ballot. And they had so much support the state had to come out with a competing, more moderate measure to compete with it. As it turned out, both the clearcutting referendum, and the state's version, called the Compact were both defeated by option 2C, which was essentially, none of the above.
yeah...if there's anyone out there who says things along the lines of "representative democracy would work if we actually HAD a true representative democracy...", well, I'd just tell them to go take a look at "the way life should be".
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on November 04, 2009, 04:44:54 PM
And the right-wing theocrats are busy patting themselves on the back over it:
http://www.catholic.org/politics/story.php?id=34769
Quote"There's good news and bad news here," said Barber. "The good news is that even in one of the most liberal States in the Union, Maine, the people have once again rejected the ridiculous and oxymoronic notion of 'same sex marriage.' The momentum has again shifted – hopefully for good this time – in favor of protecting legitimate marriage.
"A counterfeit is a counterfeit. An orange is an orange no matter how much you want it to be a turnip. This isn't about 'marriage.' It's about hurting and broken people desperately seeking affirmation of an objectively deviant lifestyle. One that, even in their heart of hearts, they know to be a dead end. As for the militant 'No on 1' homosexual activists? I'm reminded of spoiled children dressing up and playing house, refusing to come in when mom calls for dinner".
"This is an historic battle for the minds and souls of our children – for our very culture. The mealy-mouthed approach must end. This is not just about 'marriage.' It has everything to do with forced affirmation of homosexuality – under penalty of law.
"Indeed everyone who fought hard to defend marriage in Maine is to be congratulated, but if it weren't for a brave group of truth tellers – Paul Madore, Peter LaBarbera and Brian Camenker – who came to Maine in the final hour to hold a press conference and address the pink elephant in the room – homosexual deviancy and the radical 'gay' agenda – counterfeit marriage might have prevailed."
RWHN, if you meet anyone who admits to voting for this you have my full permission from to kick them square in the balls. I'll provide bail money if necessary.
What a bunch of crap. And Maine is certainly NOT one of the most liberal states in the Nation. We are very purple. I mean, yeah, put us up against Texas and Alabama, yeah, we're pretty liberal.
This vote just pisses me off to no end. I thought we were finally going to make some headway on this. It was another chance for Maine to lead. But, no, goddamnit the anti gay-marriage people put the fear of God into people that if we allow two consenting adults to marry, who just happen to have the same plumbing, that all of a sudden the public school system was going to turn into a big gay-indoctrinating machine. And 52% of Maine voters believed that bullshit.
But I was very proud of the kids I was with these past two days. We talked about it and processed it this morning because they were all pissed too. They get it. And that gives me a little hope that maybe, we can take another shot at it and get it right.
Somewhere in Heaven, Harvey Milk is screaming.
Quote from: LMNO on November 04, 2009, 06:56:55 PM
Somewhere in Heaven, Harvey Milk is screaming.
Amazing we really have not come very far from Harvey's time, either. With all this technology, knowledge and so-called increased literacy, we're still dumb hicks, most of us. Very fucking sickening.
I really hate bigots.
Quote from: My Hat is a-RWHNd here somewhere on November 04, 2009, 06:51:00 PM
Quote from: Lysergic on November 04, 2009, 01:27:04 PM
Quote from: My Hat is a-RWHNd here somewhere on November 04, 2009, 11:18:18 AM
The law never actually went into effect because by the time it was going to go into effect the anti-gay marriage folks had already gathered the necessary signatures to put it to a referendum vote, and when that happens the law in question is suspended pending the outcome. I really thought that this was another place where Maine could be a leader in the country, but instead, it became another ugly follower.
What, petitions actually WORK?
They do in Maine. A lot of laws get passed, or repealed, as a result of citizen initiatives in my state. One I was involved in back in the late 90s was on forestry regulations, specifically, a citizen initiative to ban clearcutting. And that came about because the Green Party got a bunch of signatures and got it on the ballot. And they had so much support the state had to come out with a competing, more moderate measure to compete with it. As it turned out, both the clearcutting referendum, and the state's version, called the Compact were both defeated by option 2C, which was essentially, none of the above.
Here in Australia, if you get a bunch of signatures and send it into parliament, it seems to go straight into the bin and never heard of again.
Not much I can add, but I find it disgusting that something like this can happen in this day and age. What the fuck, America? How is it even possible for gay marriage to be illegal in modern society?
You're focusing on the modern part too much. Try focusing on the society part.
My mind will boggle as much as I decide it will, thank you very much.
But seriously, I think I've met one or two people ever who had anything against gay rights.
That's because I wouldn't call those who oppose it "people". You'll know if you ever meet one.
Quote from: Suu on November 05, 2009, 03:36:43 AM
That's because I wouldn't call those who oppose it "people". You'll know if you ever meet one.
Oh, I've met a few of them before. I once went out with this girl who was a baptist and found all homosexual activity to be completely repulsive. I also suspect that my apartment's landlady might be one of them.
it is possible to find homosexual activity personally repulsive without thinking that means you should legislatively deny said homosexuals their basic civil rights.
I mean, I find the idea of touching another dude's cock totally disgusting, but I also find the idea of getting aroused by someone pissing on me to be pretty disgusting and yet...I don't seek to restrict the rights of those who enjoy watersports, y'know?
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on November 05, 2009, 03:47:19 AM
it is possible to find homosexual activity personally repulsive without thinking that means you should legislatively deny said homosexuals their basic civil rights.
I mean, I find the idea of touching another dude's cock totally disgusting, but I also find the idea of getting aroused by someone pissing on me to be pretty disgusting and yet...I don't seek to restrict the rights of those who enjoy watersports, y'know?
Have you ever tried it?
If not, how do you know it's disgusting? :p
In unrelated news, I once peed in my own mouth when I was five. :x
Quote from: A giant cock mongler on November 05, 2009, 04:06:00 AM
In unrelated news, I once peed in my own mouth when I was five. :x
I swear I've seen that video of you.
Quote from: Lysergic on November 05, 2009, 03:50:48 AM
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on November 05, 2009, 03:47:19 AM
it is possible to find homosexual activity personally repulsive without thinking that means you should legislatively deny said homosexuals their basic civil rights.
I mean, I find the idea of touching another dude's cock totally disgusting, but I also find the idea of getting aroused by someone pissing on me to be pretty disgusting and yet...I don't seek to restrict the rights of those who enjoy watersports, y'know?
Have you ever tried it?
If not, how do you know it's disgusting? :p
I didn't say that it WAS disgusting, I said that I found the IDEA of it disgusting. That doesn't require experiential confirmation.
Redacted.
Quote from: Jenne on November 04, 2009, 07:08:40 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 04, 2009, 06:56:55 PM
Somewhere in Heaven, Harvey Milk is screaming.
Amazing we really have not come very far from Harvey's time, either. With all this technology, knowledge and so-called increased literacy, we're still dumb hicks, most of us. Very fucking sickening.
I'd say that we've come pretty far since then. The federal hate crimes bill was a big step. Many corporations have stepped up in this department and recognized gay partnerships even if the government won't. Things like this take time because you have to wait around for all of the bigots to die off. Maybe we need to start a program to help push them to the grave faster.
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on November 05, 2009, 06:12:55 AM
Quote from: Jenne on November 04, 2009, 07:08:40 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 04, 2009, 06:56:55 PM
Somewhere in Heaven, Harvey Milk is screaming.
Amazing we really have not come very far from Harvey's time, either. With all this technology, knowledge and so-called increased literacy, we're still dumb hicks, most of us. Very fucking sickening.
I'd say that we've come pretty far since then. The federal hate crimes bill was a big step. Many corporations have stepped up in this department and recognized gay partnerships even if the government won't. Things like this take time because you have to wait around for all of the bigots to die off. Maybe we need to start a program to help push them to the grave faster.
I thought that was the point of the death panels in the health care bill.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2009, 04:18:43 AM
Redacted.
That's the second time I've seen that this morning. Did something happen last night I should be aware of?
Quote from: LMNO on November 05, 2009, 01:35:25 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 05, 2009, 04:18:43 AM
Redacted.
That's the second time I've seen that this morning. Did something happen last night I should be aware of?
Not really.
Ok, cool. Just checking.