... For Realness.
I started this page, but I really have no idea what I'm doing. Anyone want to help flesh it out?
http://discordia.wikia.com/wiki/Really_Real_Discordians
you just redirect that link to Uncle BadTouch's site
:lulz:
I was thinking of adding him, AKK, and The Lamanite as examples, but I can't quite figure out how to format it properly.
This is Really Real gold:
QuoteReally Real Discordians, irritating as they may be, serve a valuable purpose in Discordia, which is being hilarious. They also serve to make people annoyed, which frequently leads to new Discordian projects being started, as Discordians seem to be most productive when bothered.
:lulz:
This wikia wiki thing is LOVELY. The page on "saint" has this template at the bottom:
QuoteThis page uses content from the Principia Discordia on page 00060., and may share a type of similarity with the original. The type of similarity that they may share is called "identity." All rights reversed.
This is wonderful.
That is all.
On Monday, I will contribute.
Quote from: Nigel on June 06, 2009, 08:27:28 PM
... For Realness.
I started this page, but I really have no idea what I'm doing. Anyone want to help flesh it out?
http://discordia.wikia.com/wiki/Really_Real_Discordians
NB Just a thought but this only works if PeedyDotCom is the be all and end all of Discordianism. There seems to be a lot of this going on lately. By trying to appropriate Wikia and such and flood them with local in-jokes and sub-cultural memes you are actually doing EXACTLY the same as the Really Realers you see lurking under every bed. Personally I get pretty pissed off when people tell me how to be a Discordian No Matter Who They Are. I don't recall anyone ever suggesting that TFYS actually means Think Like I Do. Delightful Ironies ITT
Not necessarily. All Discordian communities are made up of people (last time I checked) and for any given group of people its fair to assume some fall within a range of behaviour that is being described here.
Only difference is PD is one of the few Discordian communities where Pinealism is generally discouraged and abritrary categorization of our fellow humans is not, and so we've had the time to come up with such phrases to describe this behaviour. Also we are probably the largest Discordian community, and so we have more experience of such things.
Edit: wow I need to have more coffee. I noticed three missing words before this edit, and had to put in another two.
Quote from: Cain on June 07, 2009, 11:46:33 AM
Not necessarily. All Discordian communities are made up of people (last time I checked) and for any given group of people its fair to assume some fall within a range of behaviour that is being described here.
Only difference is PD is one of the few Discordian communities where Pinealism is generally discouraged and abritrary categorization of our fellow humans is not, and so we've had the time to come up with such phrases to describe this behaviour. Also we are probably the largest Discordian community, and so we have more experience of such things.
Edit: wow I need to have more coffee SLEEP. I noticed three missing words before this edit, and had to put in another two.
- my bill is in the post - Dr MMIX's free advice for making your body love you
More seriously, Yeah I get what you are saying and I agree, actually, but there is a fine line between identifying that there are catmatic differences between the practices & non-beliefs of various flavour of Discordians and the marginalisation of certain mind-sets as being not
acceptable practice because that inevitably leads to unwarranted assumptions that WE have got it right and YOU have got it all screwed up moron. I suspect there is no actual answer to this problem but that doesn't mean that it doesn't need restating on a fairly regular basis just to keep everyone on their toes. I almost said keep everybody honest, but I could hardly type it for laughing
I understand what you're saying, but actually I'm trying to focus on archetypes which show up in every setting, not just on this forum. I used the term "Really Real Discordian" not because it's an in-joke here, but because it's a phrase which engenders instant recognition in everyone who hears it... regardless of context. I could be among magicians and say "Really Real Black Magician" and they would COMPLETELY get what I was saying, instantly. It has a strong gut resonance, and every group encounters Really Real _Whatevers_ who love to tell everyone else that they're Doin' It Wrong.
I've only been here a year and a half, but I've encountered Really Real _Whatevers_ periodically for decades, no matter what I'm doing.
My last point is that we are not "appropriating" the Wiki, we are adding to it according to our own knowledge and experiences, which is all anyone is capable of doing. That is what a Wiki is for, and in theory, if enough people do it, you end up with a fairly comprehensive encyclopedia that covers a broad range of experiences and cultures. It's really not our fault if there aren't a lot of other people/groups out there also editing this Wiki. Trying to drum up interest in editing it among other online Discordian communities might be a worthy project, if you want one.
Quote from: MMIX on June 07, 2009, 10:22:05 AM
Quote from: Nigel on June 06, 2009, 08:27:28 PM
... For Realness.
I started this page, but I really have no idea what I'm doing. Anyone want to help flesh it out?
http://discordia.wikia.com/wiki/Really_Real_Discordians
NB Just a thought but this only works if PeedyDotCom is the be all and end all of Discordianism. There seems to be a lot of this going on lately. By trying to appropriate Wikia and such and flood them with local in-jokes and sub-cultural memes you are actually doing EXACTLY the same as the Really Realers you see lurking under every bed. Personally I get pretty pissed off when people tell me how to be a Discordian No Matter Who They Are. I don't recall anyone ever suggesting that TFYS actually means Think Like I Do. Delightful Ironies ITT
And THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is that whole "not getting the fucking point" thing you may have heard about. Notice how it resembles the plaintive cry of the Out of Power Republican, who insists that anything that doesn't glorify Whites is racism, that anything that doesn't involve Calvinism is "anti-Christianity", and that anything that doesn't involve kissing the boss's ass is "class warfare". It's just that in this particular case, we are told that if we DON'T listen to the Pinealists explain what we HAVE to do to be Discordians, then obviously we must be control freaks of some kind.
Quote from: MMIX on June 07, 2009, 02:16:44 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 07, 2009, 11:46:33 AM
Not necessarily. All Discordian communities are made up of people (last time I checked) and for any given group of people its fair to assume some fall within a range of behaviour that is being described here.
Only difference is PD is one of the few Discordian communities where Pinealism is generally discouraged and abritrary categorization of our fellow humans is not, and so we've had the time to come up with such phrases to describe this behaviour. Also we are probably the largest Discordian community, and so we have more experience of such things.
Edit: wow I need to have more coffee SLEEP. I noticed three missing words before this edit, and had to put in another two.
- my bill is in the post - Dr MMIX's free advice for making your body love you
More seriously, Yeah I get what you are saying and I agree, actually, but there is a fine line between identifying that there are catmatic differences between the practices & non-beliefs of various flavour of Discordians and the marginalisation of certain mind-sets as being not acceptable practice because that inevitably leads to unwarranted assumptions that WE have got it right and YOU have got it all screwed up moron. I suspect there is no actual answer to this problem but that doesn't mean that it doesn't need restating on a fairly regular basis just to keep everyone on their toes. I almost said keep everybody honest, but I could hardly type it for laughing
And just who the fuck said something wasn't acceptable practice? Oh, yeah, the fuckheads we're making fun of.
But you knew that.
TGRR,
This is the Kind of Shit We Have to Put Up With Department.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 07, 2009, 06:03:14 PM
And THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is that whole "not getting the fucking point" thing you may have heard about.
somebody pointed this wiki out to daruko who has done the above "not getting the fucking point" thing at cog... :lulz:
Quote from: fomenter on June 07, 2009, 06:32:02 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 07, 2009, 06:03:14 PM
And THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is that whole "not getting the fucking point" thing you may have heard about.
somebody pointed this wiki out to daruko who has done the above "not getting the fucking point" thing at cog... :lulz:
Link, please? I'm not gonna waste time looking around CoG, but it might be good for a giggle.
http://www.thechurchofgoogle.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7618
Quote from: fomenter on June 07, 2009, 06:46:03 PM
http://www.thechurchofgoogle.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7618
:lulz: Yep, that's our Daruko...the Emily Latilla of the internets.
This calls for a new emote.
:emily: <--- to be used when someone posts a rant based on something they have mis-read or totally misunderstood.
:lulz: Gilda Radner on snl for those not in the angry old man cabal...
People who don't know who Emily Latilla is deserve to be confused.
Daruko does plenty of "creative" projects. With his "friends".
Really.
Quote from: Cain on June 07, 2009, 08:12:12 PM
Daruko does plenty of "creative" projects. With his "friends".
Really.
What was his point, and why does he think anyone cares?
That boy is confused.
Quote from: Cain on June 07, 2009, 08:12:12 PM
Daruko does plenty of "creative" projects. With his "friends".
Really.
getting high and jerking off to final fantasy porn doesn't count
That because he "contributes" (but not anywhere it can be verified) he cannot fit the profile of a Really Real Discordian, for Realness.
Quote from: Cain on June 07, 2009, 08:31:08 PM
That because he "contributes" (but not anywhere it can be verified) he cannot fit the profile of a Really Real Discordian, for Realness.
:lulz:
Hmm, interesting. I get a "You are banned" msg, but I can access other threads from the main page.
one message to rule them all
you are not banned that message is used for everything...?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 07, 2009, 06:03:14 PM
Quote from: MMIX on June 07, 2009, 10:22:05 AM
Quote from: Nigel on June 06, 2009, 08:27:28 PM
... For Realness.
I started this page, but I really have no idea what I'm doing. Anyone want to help flesh it out?
http://discordia.wikia.com/wiki/Really_Real_Discordians
NB Just a thought but this only works if PeedyDotCom is the be all and end all of Discordianism. There seems to be a lot of this going on lately. By trying to appropriate Wikia and such and flood them with local in-jokes and sub-cultural memes you are actually doing EXACTLY the same as the Really Realers you see lurking under every bed. Personally I get pretty pissed off when people tell me how to be a Discordian No Matter Who They Are. I don't recall anyone ever suggesting that TFYS actually means Think Like I Do. Delightful Ironies ITT
And THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is that whole "not getting the fucking point" thing you may have heard about. Notice how it resembles the plaintive cry of the Out of Power Republican, who insists that anything that doesn't glorify Whites is racism, that anything that doesn't involve Calvinism is "anti-Christianity", and that anything that doesn't involve kissing the boss's ass is "class warfare". It's just that in this particular case, we are told that if we DON'T listen to the Pinealists explain what we HAVE to do to be Discordians, then obviously we must be control freaks of some kind.
your noise:signal ratio is so far out of whack that it deserves a medal roger but thanks for the welcome. I've made my point now so I'm gonna shut up and listen to see if any other thoughtful replies like Cain's and Nigel's get posted.
ps on the off chance that that is a serious reply - wow way to misrepresent me
Quote from: MMIX on June 07, 2009, 10:35:20 PM
NB Just a thought but this only works if PeedyDotCom is the be all and end all of Discordianism. There seems to be a lot of this going on lately. By trying to appropriate Wikia and such and flood them with local in-jokes and sub-cultural memes you are actually doing EXACTLY the same as the Really Realers you see lurking under every bed. Personally I get pretty pissed off when people tell me how to be a Discordian No Matter Who They Are. I don't recall anyone ever suggesting that TFYS actually means Think Like I Do. Delightful Ironies ITT
QuoteI won't. If your discordianism is focused around pointing out which discordians are doing it wrong, and that works for you, then that's your business. Just because my discordianism doesn't work that way, doesn't imply I think yours should. Whatever gets ya off. People trying to learn about discordianism are not going to get your inside jokes about people you feel don't understand your discordianism.
Quote
your noise:signal ratio is so far out of whack that it deserves a medal roger but thanks for the welcome. I've made my point now so I'm gonna shut up and listen to see if any other thoughtful replies like Cain's and Nigel's get posted.
ps on the off chance that that is a serious reply - wow way to misrepresent me
one of these posts is not by the author,
one of these post it just sounds the same
One of these things is not like the others,
One of these things just doesn't belong,
Can you tell which thing is not like the others
By the time I finish my song?
Did you guess which thing was not like the others?
Did you guess which thing just doesn't belong?
If you guessed there not all by the same author
Then you're absolutely...???? (rhymes with song??)
sorry but I can only make a rough guess at what you are on about . . .
the search facilty on this forum is a bit shite isn't it?
pay it no attention, i could be wrong that's why i used the ???? marks
Quote from: MMIX on June 07, 2009, 10:35:20 PM
your noise:signal ratio is so far out of whack
That's nice.
Fuck off.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 08, 2009, 12:34:52 AM
Quote from: MMIX on June 07, 2009, 10:35:20 PM
your noise:signal ratio is so far out of whack
That's nice.
Fuck off.
the message and the writing style both line up...
Quote from: fomenter on June 08, 2009, 12:49:30 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 08, 2009, 12:34:52 AM
Quote from: MMIX on June 07, 2009, 10:35:20 PM
your noise:signal ratio is so far out of whack
That's nice.
Fuck off.
the message and the writing style both line up...
with what ffs ??? are you secretly developing a discordian tool for making wildy ridiculous assumptions???
yes i have coupled it to a random direction pointer it now points in random directions and makes ridiculous assumptions about what ever it points at
Quote from: fomenter on June 08, 2009, 01:33:39 AM
yes i have coupled it to a random direction pointer it now points in random directions and makes ridiculous assumptions about what ever it points at
Wow that is soooo cool, Can I haz one please???
MMIX gadget freak
Quote from: fomenter on June 08, 2009, 01:33:39 AM
yes i have coupled it to a random direction pointer it now points in random directions and makes ridiculous assumptions about what ever it points at
I'm thinking it's not so ridiculous.
:mrgreen:
Quote from: Nigel on June 06, 2009, 08:27:28 PM
... For Realness.
I started this page, but I really have no idea what I'm doing. Anyone want to help flesh it out?
http://discordia.wikia.com/wiki/Really_Real_Discordians
just to remind everyone what this thread is actually about
Quote from: MMIX on June 08, 2009, 01:42:59 AM
Quote from: Nigel on June 06, 2009, 08:27:28 PM
... For Realness.
I started this page, but I really have no idea what I'm doing. Anyone want to help flesh it out?
http://discordia.wikia.com/wiki/Really_Real_Discordians
just to remind everyone what this thread is actually about
Thanks, Junior.
I kinda want to categorize some other Discordian types, for shits and giggles. Including my own.
Maybe Silver Hammer Discordians is a category.
Maybe Rage Discordians.
Philomosophical Discordians.
Atheistic Discordians.
Tell me some categories. We all need to be made fun of.
SCREAMING PRIMATES!!!: it's not just a cabal, its a religion
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on June 08, 2009, 07:08:54 AM
SCREAMING PRIMATES!!!: it's not just a cabal, its a religion
Flesh it out and stick it in.
Quote from: NigelFlesh it out and stick it in.
Words I'm sure Nigel has
never uttered before.
Any suggested additions for this page?
http://discordia.wikia.com/wiki/Nerd_Rage
that one german boy, you know the video
Quote from: Nigel on June 08, 2009, 06:53:04 AM
I kinda want to categorize some other Discordian types, for shits and giggles. Including my own.
Maybe Silver Hammer Discordians is a category.
Maybe Rage Discordians.
Philomosophical Discordians.
Atheistic Discordians.
Tell me some categories. We all need to be made fun of.
Dutch Discordians!
Quote from: MMIX on June 08, 2009, 01:42:59 AM
Quote from: Nigel on June 06, 2009, 08:27:28 PM
... For Realness.
I started this page, but I really have no idea what I'm doing. Anyone want to help flesh it out?
http://discordia.wikia.com/wiki/Really_Real_Discordians
just to remind everyone what this thread is actually about
Quote from: Nigel on June 07, 2009, 04:20:01 PM
I used the term "Really Real Discordian" not because it's an in-joke here, but because it's a phrase which engenders instant recognition in everyone who hears it... regardless of context. I could be among magicians and say "Really Real Black Magician" and they would COMPLETELY get what I was saying, instantly. It has a strong gut resonance, and every group encounters Really Real _Whatevers_ who love to tell everyone else that they're Doin' It Wrong.
Just to remind everyone that Nigel addressed your concerns about 3 pages back.
Quote from: Arafelis on June 08, 2009, 08:19:16 AM
Quote from: NigelFlesh it out and stick it in.
Words I'm sure Nigel has never uttered before.
Well shit, no. I'm virginal as the driven snow.
Quote from: Triple Zero on June 08, 2009, 12:02:50 PM
Quote from: Nigel on June 08, 2009, 06:53:04 AM
I kinda want to categorize some other Discordian types, for shits and giggles. Including my own.
Maybe Silver Hammer Discordians is a category.
Maybe Rage Discordians.
Philomosophical Discordians.
Atheistic Discordians.
Tell me some categories. We all need to be made fun of.
Dutch Discordians!
That one will be easy!
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 08, 2009, 01:39:13 AM
Quote from: fomenter on June 08, 2009, 01:33:39 AM
yes i have coupled it to a random direction pointer it now points in random directions and makes ridiculous assumptions about what ever it points at
I'm thinking it's not so ridiculous.
FTR, I've just been assuming as much.
I don't know how I feel about the article. It seems that the subtext is "Ur doin it wrong". I'm bored of reading about how to do it wrong. It's a waste of everybody's time.
like the pinealism entry, this one reads like condescending trollbait. It makes me want to troll whoever wrote it because they sound kind of uptight, and describe
exactly what their hotbuttons are.
Quote"Really Real Discordians tend to lump together large groups of typically diverse and quarrelsome individuals, accusing them of being "Sheep" or "Cabbages" who are part of a "Hivemind", engaging in "Groupthink" under the thrall of a "Leader"."
how about:
Really Real Discordians tend to lump together large groups of typically diverse and quarrelsome individuals, accusing them of being "Cabbages", "Sheep", "Pinealists", or "Really Real Discordians". Really Real Discordians often confuse "disagreement" with "not getting it", and spend lots of time describing how to be a "Good Discordian". As if there's some system to master.
sounds good to me!
Really real [insert type here] for realness are simply the embodiment and personification of the No True Scottsman fallacy.
Quote from: Kai on June 08, 2009, 04:49:55 PM
Really real [insert type here] for realness are simply the embodiment and personification of the No True Scottsman fallacy.
:potd:
Quote from: Cramulus on June 08, 2009, 03:59:53 PM
I don't know how I feel about the article. It seems that the subtext is "Ur doin it wrong". I'm bored of reading about how to do it wrong. It's a waste of everybody's time.
like the pinealism entry, this one reads like condescending trollbait. It makes me want to troll whoever wrote it because they sound kind of uptight, and describe exactly what their hotbuttons are.
Quote"Really Real Discordians tend to lump together large groups of typically diverse and quarrelsome individuals, accusing them of being "Sheep" or "Cabbages" who are part of a "Hivemind", engaging in "Groupthink" under the thrall of a "Leader"."
how about:
Really Real Discordians tend to lump together large groups of typically diverse and quarrelsome individuals, accusing them of being "Cabbages", "Sheep", "Pinealists", or "Really Real Discordians". Really Real Discordians often confuse "disagreement" with "not getting it", and spend lots of time describing how to be a "Good Discordian". As if there's some system to master.
I like that. I hope you changed it.
Also, it would be a real shame, and unthinkable, for any Discordians to be writing anything for the purposes of irritating other Discordians. That would be terribly un-Discordian.
Quote from: Kai on June 08, 2009, 04:49:55 PM
Really real [insert type here] for realness are simply the embodiment and personification of the No True Scottsman fallacy.
:lulz:
Quote from: Kai on June 08, 2009, 04:49:55 PM
Really real [insert type here] for realness are simply the embodiment and personification of the No True Scottsman fallacy.
No true Discordian would say that.
Quote from: Nigel on June 08, 2009, 07:34:24 AM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on June 08, 2009, 07:08:54 AM
SCREAMING PRIMATES!!!: it's not just a cabal, its a religion
Flesh it out and stick it in.
give me a few days
They don't have viagara in Canada?
We just figured out that viagra makes your penis puss up and fall off...
we just haven't told you yet.
Quote from: Cain on June 08, 2009, 05:15:50 PM
Quote from: Kai on June 08, 2009, 04:49:55 PM
Really real [insert type here] for realness are simply the embodiment and personification of the No True Scottsman fallacy.
No true Discordian would say that.
No true Discordian would claim to be a True Discordian!
Let that circular reasoning roll around in your head for a bit. :lol:
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on June 08, 2009, 05:19:10 PM
Quote from: Nigel on June 08, 2009, 07:34:24 AM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on June 08, 2009, 07:08:54 AM
SCREAMING PRIMATES!!!: it's not just a cabal, its a religion
Flesh it out and stick it in.
give me a few days
You could put this Nigel
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=21083.0
I dont know how to use that thing
I don't want to be held responsible.
Quote from: Nigel on June 09, 2009, 05:54:10 AM
I don't want to be held responsible.
Just blame Iason.
Done!
Quote from: Cramulus on June 08, 2009, 03:59:53 PMReally Real Discordians tend to lump together large groups of typically diverse and quarrelsome individuals, accusing them of being "Cabbages", "Sheep", "Pinealists", or "Really Real Discordians". Really Real Discordians often confuse "disagreement" with "not getting it", and spend lots of time describing how to be a "Good Discordian". As if there's some system to master.
I like this one the best.
Quote from: Nigel on June 08, 2009, 05:10:07 PM
Also, it would be a real shame, and unthinkable, for any Discordians to be writing anything for the purposes of irritating other Discordians. That would be terribly un-Discordian.
I thought that was the whole point...? :?
Quote from: D.A.N on November 09, 2009, 02:39:02 PM
Quote from: Nigel on June 08, 2009, 05:10:07 PM
Also, it would be a real shame, and unthinkable, for any Discordians to be writing anything for the purposes of irritating other Discordians. That would be terribly un-Discordian.
I thought that was the whole point...? :?
I also said this:
Quote from: Nigel on June 08, 2009, 02:32:42 PM
I'm virginal as the driven snow.
Do the math.