I'm having to rely on a blog run by someone who can translate Italian.
http://mymarilyn.blogspot.com/2009/06/italian-government-to-legalise.html
But just read it.
QuoteThe Italian government has just issued a White paper on law and order that gives the go-ahead to private vigilante groups. While the paper states that such groups will have to sign up to a licensing scheme, it's interesting to take a peek at those who are enthusiastically jumping at the opportunity.
Enter the Guardia Nazionale Italiana, whose website is currently recruiting "true Italian Nationalists and Patriots, people who are able to wear their uniform with pride and dignity, and for everything that it represents, are able to serve our land and the Italian people".
You may be excused if it rings familiar: black trousers with yellow band, black hat donning the Imperial Eagle of the Holy Roman Empire, khaki shirt carrying both Italian flag and a certain symbol (a black sun that is popular amongst German neo-nazis), black armband, black tie and black boots.
Yet any allegation that it may echo a certain period in history are dismissed as 'nonsense'."It's a legitimate way of combating crime", says Home Secretary Roberto Maroni. So why the garish outfits?
The answer comes the moment you take a peek at the people behind the vigilantes. Amidst retired carabinieri and assorted military, there he is, the founding member of the far-right Social Movement (MSI-DN, the group that rose from the ashes of the Fascist Party following Mussolini's death in 1945) and leader of the Italian Nationalist Party, both groups possibly to the right of the BNP.
:lulz:
It's like our superhero phenomena, but somehow even more scary!
They're not even trying to hide it, now. Resurrecting the Blackshirts is pretty much confirmation that everyone who doubted my belief about Italy sliding into Fascism should STFU forevermore.
The EU doesn't seem interested, of course. God, at this rate, we'll soon be wishing there was a Soviet Union again, if only to raise International Brigades.
'Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it George Santayana [1905] William Shirer quoted this as an epigraph in his literary work The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich [1959] - gotta love the irony there then.
Those who don't give a flying fuck about their past indiscretions are condemned to be [Italian fascisti] / [insert extremist groups/s of your choice here]
Whoa!
that's a helluva thing.
definitely worth watching how that develops.
something about this reminds me of "The Historical Illuminatus Chronicles" we should place agents in Italy and create competing secret orders/vigilante for hire groups and get convoluted and complicated conspiracies and cooperative efforts going between them.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1193111/Italy-revives-Blackshirt-vigilantes-fears-Fascism-sparks-investigation.html
for pic and more information.
this is interesting!
Quote from: fomenter on June 17, 2009, 09:53:22 PM
something about this reminds me of "The Historical Illuminatus Chronicles" we should place agents in Italy and create competing secret orders/vigilante for hire groups and get convoluted and complicated conspiracies and cooperative efforts going between them.
I was going to suggest that, but I don't know where we'd get the expendable manpower.
Quote from: Cain on June 17, 2009, 08:04:41 PM
I'm having to rely on a blog run by someone who can translate Italian.
http://mymarilyn.blogspot.com/2009/06/italian-government-to-legalise.html
But just read it.
QuoteThe Italian government has just issued a White paper on law and order that gives the go-ahead to private vigilante groups. While the paper states that such groups will have to sign up to a licensing scheme, it's interesting to take a peek at those who are enthusiastically jumping at the opportunity.
Enter the Guardia Nazionale Italiana, whose website is currently recruiting "true Italian Nationalists and Patriots, people who are able to wear their uniform with pride and dignity, and for everything that it represents, are able to serve our land and the Italian people".
You may be excused if it rings familiar: black trousers with yellow band, black hat donning the Imperial Eagle of the Holy Roman Empire, khaki shirt carrying both Italian flag and a certain symbol (a black sun that is popular amongst German neo-nazis), black armband, black tie and black boots.
Yet any allegation that it may echo a certain period in history are dismissed as 'nonsense'."It's a legitimate way of combating crime", says Home Secretary Roberto Maroni. So why the garish outfits?
The answer comes the moment you take a peek at the people behind the vigilantes. Amidst retired carabinieri and assorted military, there he is, the founding member of the far-right Social Movement (MSI-DN, the group that rose from the ashes of the Fascist Party following Mussolini's death in 1945) and leader of the Italian Nationalist Party, both groups possibly to the right of the BNP.
Figures. Wasn't he a member of P2?
Quote from: Ratatosk on June 17, 2009, 08:07:13 PM
:lulz:
It's like our superhero phenomena, but somehow even more scary!
Your sig. :lulz:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 18, 2009, 02:02:52 AM
Figures. Wasn't he a member of P2?
Yup. Another little factoid that seems to escape everyone's attention.
Naturally, he claims he had no idea about the Lodge's political activities. No idea at all. Completely oblivious.
Quote from: Epimetheus on June 17, 2009, 09:57:52 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1193111/Italy-revives-Blackshirt-vigilantes-fears-Fascism-sparks-investigation.html
for pic and more information.
this is interesting!
Mail readers . . . gutted that they didn't think of it first
More Italian fun:
http://www.bergamonews.it/provincia/articolo.php?id=14521
http://www.ecodibergamo.it/stories/Cronaca/85829_capriate_kebab/
OK, I know most people don't read Italian, but those are the original links, so you can run them through Google Translate or whatever.
Right, anyway, this is what is happening now. A council ordinance tabled by the Northern League bans all 'ethnic' shops and businesses from Capriate town centre. Most stunning is the motivation offered by the Chair of Trade and Safety at the local council: "This is not a racist decision. The town centre is short of parking space and those businesses would worsen traffic congestion".
The ban is a direct consequence of last June's ruling by the Lombard Regional Assembly (also governed by Berlusconi's coalition) which granted local councils power to shut down businesses that are deemed "incompatible" with the "local context".
"We couldn't just sit down in front of the invasion of kebab shops, internet cafes and Chinese restaurants that are sucking the identity out of our town centres", explained Northern League Assembly Members Daniele Belotti and Giouse' Frosio.
ok thassit then, i have never been to italy but if this is how they wanna "defend their culture" they can suck it, they wont get my tourist money anymore.
Cain, my best friend is a native italian speaker, maybe I can ask her to translate some bits for you/us?
I would murder to have a kebab shop in my neighborhood.
Quote from: Pixie O'Fubar on August 20, 2009, 10:39:33 PM
Cain, my best friend is a native italian speaker, maybe I can ask her to translate some bits for you/us?
Sure, go for it. I got these from my girlfriend, who speaks some Italian and is in Rome at the moment, but she certainly isn't that fluent.
Can't believe I missed this first time round. I was gonna visit Italy again some time, but FUCK THAT SHIT.
Also, it really worries me that the EU isn't so much as getting annoyed at this... Democracy my ass.
Quote from: [uV*] on August 21, 2009, 09:04:13 AMAlso, it really worries me that the EU isn't so much as getting annoyed at this...
I suspect the EU is doing nothing because Berlusconi is a member of the majority, centre-right bloc that has control of the EU Parliament, which also includes Merkel and Sarkozy. Neither of them are probably very happy about this, but David Cameron has already jumped ship, so they may feel they cannot afford further defections and fighting.
UNG. But how the hell was there no noise about this shit in the EP elections in July? The left could have made a killing on this! The timing was perfect as well, three weeks before the elections!
:horrormirth:
Quote from: [uV*] on August 21, 2009, 04:53:50 PM
UNG. But how the hell was there no noise about this shit in the EP elections in July? The left could have made a killing on this! The timing was perfect as well, three weeks before the elections!
:horrormirth:
You still believe that there's a left and a right.
How CUTE!
Quote from: [uV*] on August 21, 2009, 04:53:50 PM
UNG. But how the hell was there no noise about this shit in the EP elections in July? The left could have made a killing on this! The timing was perfect as well, three weeks before the elections!
:horrormirth:
This is the same liberal-left bloc whom, despite years of neoliberal economic policies and mostly conservative governments being in power in Europe, still failed to gain a plurality (let alone a majority) in the European Parliament, in the worst recession in 70 years.
The answer is simple: they are morons.
The most cut-throat group that is part of that bloc is the Liberal Democrats in the UK, which tells you everything. Its like the Republican election machine under Rove...but run by someone who drinks green tea and goes to bed by nine o'clock every night.
Also the media in Europe is like "LOLOLOLOL BERLUSCONI IS A DIRTY OLD MAN WHO FUCKS TEENAGE MODELS.....*ALLEGEDLY*!!!!!" because covering actual politics is too much like hard work.