it's a question, and lo, as i have breathed it and given it body and soul, so shall ye answer, as it is written, so shall it be!
or -
i watched star trek.
so there i was sitting and watchign star trek enterprise, when it struck me like a million photons that sped tward me from the magic moving picture box a short distance from me. "new world economy, an economy w/o money, an economy where everyone wins, no one loses and there is incentive to do better. but how?"
and that's the question.
how can the world have a non exploitive economy that has no currency, or barring that, has no exploitative soemthing or others. explain in five hundred million words or less.
Good question, horab. Bravo.
I'm not gonna be a work long enough to come up with a worthy answer. But I'll give the matter some thought.
Quote from: horabhow can the world have a non exploitive economy that has no currency, or barring that, has no exploitative soemthing or others. explain in five hundred million words or less.
They borrowed it from Santa.
They have those replicator thingies. Need food? Zappo. Need clothing? Zappo.
Quote from: null-n-voidThey have those replicator thingies. Need food? Zappo. Need clothing? Zappo.
have an unexplainable desire for sex... zappo... meatloaf.
(http://www.mirland.dk/visuals/meatloaf.jpg)
and the desire is gone.
Resource based economy...
Not a totally utilitarian enterprise, but rather a world where produce is rated according to its efficiency in an ordered ladder of
Resources consumed in the production process in
Primary production
Secondary and tertiary production
Man Hours
Quality of life of workforce
However, said system would be enourmously complex. The simplest way would be to assign a value to each single item and add that to grand totals.
Oddly enough this makes organic and biodynamic produce cheaper, environmental solutions more desirable and energy-efficient appliances and transport solutions more-profitable...
any additions anyone?
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Quote from: null-n-voidThey have those replicator thingies. Need food? Zappo. Need clothing? Zappo.
Better than that, from one episode of
Voyager[/b] I caught, it looks like those replicators work by recycling other material. (Matter into energy and back into matter, I suspect.)
So not only do you no longer have scarcity of desired goods, but you no longer have waste. All those heaps and heaps of trash in our landfills could be fed into the replicator and turned into plump juicy hotdogs.
Millions of hotdogs, hotdogs for me... millions of hotdogs, hotdogs for free!
hotdog canning factories... mmm
in starcraft, my economies always suck. especially with terran. damn scv's
The unyelding need of 1) servival 2) ceriosity
In a exsistance where you could be attacked by alians at any time you need to be productive to protect yourself.
"To boldly go where no man has gone" we have this need to learn new things and once we have finished with earth we need to move on to learn.
And lastly it was just probobly taught to them by an alian race.
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And lastly it was just probobly taught to them by an alian race.
Probably those bloody vulcans...
I truly hate the fact that I know these things...
On a side note:
I watched some show about star trek fans the other day, and they are apparantly in inner turmoil because they can't decide whether they call themselves "Trekkies" or "Trekkers"...
Now in my language (Flemish-Dutch), "Trekkers" sorta means "someone who masturbates a lot"...
And then you see the biggest geek ever, in his custom made star trek pyjama, arguing with the second biggest geek ever, in his self-designed
official star trek pyjama, that he is a Trekker and not a Trekkie.
It was mildly amusing...
when i go to treck conventions(if i were to, i've never been, tho ioen never knows), i'd argue for niether, and go for the utilitarian titlae, losers who find spandex on marina sirtis sexy even after seven years. ;)
mostly i wanted nuts and bolts. sure maybe in 50 years we'll invent warp drive thanks to interventionf rom the enterrpise after teh borg go back in time to invade earth, but in teh mean time, i reckon we can maybe come up with soemthign good ourselves. not me mind you, it's hurts my head...
:sigh:
[begin trekkie mode]
Well, according to First Contact, Zefram Cochran crerated wrp drlive with a profit motive. Ten years after meeting the Vulcans, he had started starfleet with his new ideals.
But profit motive has been set aside before: WWI and WWII. Profit took a back seat to defeting enemies. The Federation has far too many enemies: starting with the Klingons, the Romulans, the Aldebranians, Ferengi, Cardasians, Borg, Dominion, etc ad nausium. It is in the pursuit of being better tahn their rivals taht the Federation citizens have sert aside profit motive.
The future is not perfect.
[/end trekkie mode]
I am such a geek