When I finish this.. will I be awesome?
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/llamaranger/DSC01520.jpg)
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/llamaranger/DSC01521.jpg)
Just need to stick a neck on it and sort out the electrics :)
x
p.s. we are ignoring the split thank you very much
Yes. You will be awesome. Especially if the neck doesn't bow.
Also, I want one.
Yes, I'll have one too thanks.
Quote from: LMNO on July 15, 2009, 01:47:49 PM
Yes. You will be awesome. Especially if the neck doesn't bow.
Also, I want one.
truss rod, neck angle and low tension strings, I can't fail... probably... :p
also, get yer hands off my baby! both of yer!
I really should try to build an electric guitar myself.
What could possibly go wrong?
Quote from: LMNO on July 15, 2009, 02:33:25 PM
I really should try to build an electric guitar myself.
What could possibly go wrong?
exactly, I don't know why people say its such an art, this thing has only been one
incredibly frustrating very calm and serene use of time, and everything went
horribly wrong but was then fixed with superglue to plan...
i have finished. though I admit is chickened out on making the neck, i bought one. It even plugs in and makes noises and everything.
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/llamaranger/DSC01524.jpg)
now i am awesome. right?
Yes. You are now Awesome.
Also, I have an identical set of hand drums.
awesome. i always wanted to be awesome. I even remember telling my mummy... when I am growed up.. I wanna be awesome.
@RWHN, are yours genuine fake morrocan drums?
Quote from: LMNO on July 22, 2009, 08:15:40 PM
Yes. You are now Awesome.
I concur.
This may actually be something I use in a WOMP sometime.
Quote from: Roaring Biscuit! on July 22, 2009, 08:18:51 PM
awesome. i always wanted to be awesome. I even remember telling my mummy... when I am growed up.. I wanna be awesome.
@RWHN, are yours genuine fake morrocan drums?
abso-smurfly. I think my Mom got them from the Musician's Friend catalog. But, her heart was in the right place.
bumpity bump :)
Quote from: LMNO on July 15, 2009, 01:47:49 PM
Also, I want one.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on July 15, 2009, 01:53:46 PM
Yes, I'll have one too thanks.
I'm totally game for building custom guitars for people :)
You're in Foreign Lands, aren't you?
We might have to think about weights and measures, if yr gonna ship...
still awesome, though.
Quote from: LMNO on April 30, 2010, 03:37:01 PM
You're in Foreign Lands, aren't you?
We might have to think about weights and measures, if yr gonna ship...
Aye, it had crossed my mind and its a fair point, but with anything that people want me to build I follow a general rule which is "materials+50-100% depending on how complicated the work is", which means you basically very much in control of the price, but I can look into how much shipping could cost if you're interested. I have a few unique ideas kicking around me noggin atm that you may or may not want to discuss :)
x
edd
p.s. danke schon brotep :)
bumpity bump
'cause I would way prefer to do this than get a real job over summer
Thoughts:
I would like a stringed instrument that has the following:
Semi-hollow
Six strings
The 1st and the 4th string from the top should have a hipshot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipshot) to raise or lower the string at least a whole step (2 frets).
Floating bridge
tremolo bar
1 single coil pickup
1 humbucker pickup
1 D-Tar (http://www.d-tar.com/soundspots.shtml) or similar pickup
wiring to isolate or blend individual pickups
2 output jacks
What do you think? Too ambitious?
Quote from: LMNO on May 11, 2010, 02:22:28 PM
Thoughts:
I would like a stringed instrument that has the following:
Semi-hollow
Six strings
The 1st and the 4th string from the top should have a hipshot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipshot) to raise or lower the string at least a whole step (2 frets).
Floating bridge
tremolo bar
1 single coil pickup
1 humbucker pickup
1 D-Tar (http://www.d-tar.com/soundspots.shtml) or similar pickup
wiring to isolate or blend individual pickups
2 output jacks
What do you think? Too ambitious?
:lulz: way too ambitious, which I like... a lot.
Can you give me any more info on how a hipshot works? And how to determine how far it will be able to tune up or down?
For the pickup wiring would you prefer 3 seperate volume controls plus master or a pickup selector?
Do you want both outputs to be the same?
Also, the area between the bridge and the neck will have to be solid wood for a floating bridge, so I guess you want the piezo behind the bridge in the hollow bit? do you want a humbucker for the neck or bridge pickup?
Also, what neck do you want? I don't really have the skill nor tools necessary to make a custom neck unfortunately :(
x
edit: also, not exactly gonna be cheapby the looks of things... cheaper than anywhere else, short of doing it yourself... but not...
cheap
Quote from: Roaring Biscuit! on May 11, 2010, 04:07:19 PM
:lulz: way too ambitious, which I like... a lot.
I was daydreaming. I haven't even tried a lot of these out, I have no idea what it would end up sounding like.
QuoteCan you give me any more info on how a hipshot works? And how to determine how far it will be able to tune up or down?
www.hipshot.com is probably the biggest maker. It's a locking lever mechanism on the peg that allows you to toggle between two tunings. I usually use Open D tuning, so the 4th fret one would be to change between major and minor keys.
QuoteFor the pickup wiring would you prefer 3 seperate volume controls plus master or a pickup selector?
Both? :wink: Probably the 3 separate ones, if not.
QuoteDo you want both outputs to be the same?
Yeah. I don't really know why I want this, other then the off chance of having 2 separate amps with 2 sepearte effect racks.
QuoteAlso, the area between the bridge and the neck will have to be solid wood for a floating bridge, so I guess you want the piezo behind the bridge in the hollow bit? do you want a humbucker for the neck or bridge pickup?
Yeah, The piezo in the hollow part (bonus if I can sing through them as well); the HB on the bridge, single coil on the neck.
QuoteAlso, what neck do you want? I don't really have the skill nor tools necessary to make a custom neck unfortunately :(
How about aluminum (http://www.metalnecks.com/)?
Quoteedit: also, not exactly gonna be cheapby the looks of things... cheaper than anywhere else, short of doing it yourself... but not... cheap
I figured. This might not be feasible, at all. But I figured I'd have to ask.
Okay, I've been mulling this over for a while, and there's a few things that jump out as "totally ruining everything" kinda problems:
1. semi-acoustic, I've not done it before, though I do have the knowledge/confidence in my skills to do it. The main issue I'm having, is that in my head, it's an archtop, which will probably be a bit of a pain getting it to work with a floating bridge (though not too much of a pain, I think I have an idea :))
2. Floating bridge + hipshot = tuning nightmare?
3 volume (+master) and pickup selector shouldn't be a problem, might need to talk to my sound/electrical engineer friend about the dual output though. Aluminium neck looks completely awesome.
But ok, it's doable, and most of that stuff is bells and whistles :) Awesome bells and whistles, but bells and whistles nonetheless.
So... have you thought about the body (style, sound etc.), or was this whole thing still very much a hypothetical in your head? :mrgreen:
1) To be honest, I wanted it semi-hollow for the PZM pickup that I could yell into. What do you think would happen if you put a PZM pickup between the single coil and the humbucker?
2) You could be right. I'd be willing to sacrifice the whammy bar for the ability to play the thing behind the bridge.
3) dual output is completely gratuitous - I think you can buy a splitter pedal easily.
As far as the body, if it's solid then it doesn't really matter what shape it is, right? I wonder if someone's done a study on ergonomic guitar shapes.
You know, I should probably talk to an actual guitarist to find out how retarded this is.
Quote from: LMNO on May 11, 2010, 08:57:08 PM
You know, I should probably talk to an actual guitarist to find out how retarded this is.
I've just been having fun being totally lost ITT.
It's like a different language. My boss must feel this way when Ed and I start talking about the details of a project.
Quote from: LMNO on May 11, 2010, 08:55:29 PM
1) To be honest, I wanted it semi-hollow for the PZM pickup that I could yell into. What do you think would happen if you put a PZM pickup between the single coil and the humbucker?
2) You could be right. I'd be willing to sacrifice the whammy bar for the ability to play the thing behind the bridge.
3) dual output is completely gratuitous - I think you can buy a splitter pedal easily.
As far as the body, if it's solid then it doesn't really matter what shape it is, right? I wonder if someone's done a study on ergonomic guitar shapes.
Old fashioned Bigsby Tremolo?
Quote from: LMNO on May 11, 2010, 08:57:08 PM
You know, I should probably talk to an actual guitarist to find out how retarded this is.
Make sure it isn't Rick Nielsen or Steve Vai.
bigsby will still have the same problem :/
possible alternatives: http://www.tremol-no.com/faq.asp (http://tremol-no) or http://www.freelok.com/main.htm (http://freelok)
first one is ugly, second one is awkward. the guitar gods are clearly not gonna make that combo easy huh? see edit
Quote1) To be honest, I wanted it semi-hollow for the PZM pickup that I could yell into. What do you think would happen if you put a PZM pickup between the single coil and the humbucker?
Very little if it wasn't semi-acoustic. On a semi-acoustic be able to merge the two signals (from pickup and piezo), like some acoustic pickups are desiged to do (i.e. have a normal pickup with a mic in the back to get the tone/resonance of the wood too).
As far as yelling into it, you can sing through most electro acoustics, so any piezo at least as good as the ones they put in terrible E-A guitars should do it. Just make a slightly larger than average sound hole :)
Quote3) dual output is completely gratuitous - I think you can buy a splitter pedal easily.
custom guitars - completely gratuitous. :D
As far as body goes, mostly its a decision between semi-acoustic and solid, and then a choice on wood/tone (it does effect sound, even on electric), then shape, then pickups. Also, whether you want it painted+varnish (no wood showing) vs laquered might inform wood choice as well.
x
edd
EDIT: my bad, both tremol-no and freelok use basically the same system, where you have to twist a thingy at the back :/ tremol-no has the advantage of having a "dive only" mode, which allows tuning strings down, but only lets the floating bridge go forward (dive).
Quick thought: can we throw an on-board graphic EQ into the mix?
why the fuck not... :cn:
gonna be heavy though, also, might have to be quite bulky to fit everything in... depend where you want it positioned on the body i suppose?
x
I was thinking a simple EQ like this (http://www.guitarcenter.com/Shadow-2-Band-EQ-Preamp-System-For-Solid-Wood-Guitars-300141-i1171714.gc) would be sufficient. It's not graphic, but what the hell.
So, where we stand:
You've said a solid body would work best for you, so let's go with that; that removes the PZM mic, which is fine.
1 single coil, 1 Humbucker; 2 volume knobs (plus 1 master) + pickup selector (SC - HB - Both).
Aluminum neck
EQ
2 output jacks
-and-
I need to find out if the floating bridge and a hipshot would work, whammy bar notwithstanding.
As far as the body goes, the one you made on page 1 of the thread looks really cool.
QuoteI was thinking a simple EQ like this would be sufficient. It's not graphic, but what the hell.
That works I guess, I was actually thinking of tearing apart a BOSS eq pedal (or similar) and having holes in the body for the slidy bits. If it was a six band EQ you could have them behind the bridge corresponding with each string?
QuoteYou've said a solid body would work best for you
PROTIP: I secretly want to make a semi-acoustic, cause it puts me in a good position experience wise to make an electro-acoustic cello next year :)
Quote1 single coil, 1 Humbucker; 2 volume knobs (plus 1 master) + pickup selector (SC - HB - Both).
Yup, or maybe five-way selector given previous comment?
QuoteAluminum neck
EQ
2 output jacks
Yup, I'll see if there is a UK distributor for those kinda necks, I really like the look of the Kramer aluminium necks, if you've seen them?
I think the output jacks will have to be wired in parallel, which means they will both be the same volume, but half the volume that one would be on its own.. I think, so I can wire in a kill switch for one (or both), which should mean that when you're only using one through one amp it will be as loud as two through two amps. Yeh?
Quote-and-
I need to find out if the floating bridge and a hipshot would work, whammy bar notwithstanding.
Yes you do :lulz: I had a quick looksie, and evidence points to no (without a tremel-no or freelok), but you might find something I missed (hopefully :))
QuoteAs far as the body goes, the one you made on page 1 of the thread looks really cool.
You can't have that one... its
mine :wink:, I'll draw some stuff later :)
Quote from: LMNO on April 30, 2010, 03:37:01 PM
You're in Foreign Lands, aren't you?
We might have to think about weights and measures, if yr gonna ship...
From my experience (shipping a bass from Canada to Aus) shipping costs about a third if you remove the neck to ship it. I did have to get the truss rod readjusted though (I didn't trust my self not to fuck it up).
Quote from: Roaring Biscuit! on May 12, 2010, 02:18:43 PM
QuoteI was thinking a simple EQ like this would be sufficient. It's not graphic, but what the hell.
That works I guess, I was actually thinking of tearing apart a BOSS eq pedal (or similar) and having holes in the body for the slidy bits. If it was a six band EQ you could have them behind the bridge corresponding with each string?
Ok,
fuck yes.
QuoteQuoteYou've said a solid body would work best for you
PROTIP: I secretly want to make a semi-acoustic, cause it puts me in a good position experience wise to make an electro-acoustic cello next year :)
Then
do it, spag-boi. :wink:
Quote
Quote1 single coil, 1 Humbucker; 2 volume knobs (plus 1 master) + pickup selector (SC - HB - Both).
Yup, or maybe five-way selector given previous comment?
Sure, just to make things difficult, why not?
QuoteQuoteAluminum neck
EQ
2 output jacks
Yup, I'll see if there is a UK distributor for those kinda necks, I really like the look of the Kramer aluminium necks, if you've seen them?
I think the output jacks will have to be wired in parallel, which means they will both be the same volume, but half the volume that one would be on its own.. I think, so I can wire in a kill switch for one (or both), which should mean that when you're only using one through one amp it will be as loud as two through two amps. Yeh?
Dear lord, that sounds needlessly complicated. But go for it, if it will make you happy.
QuoteQuote-and-
I need to find out if the floating bridge and a hipshot would work, whammy bar notwithstanding.
Yes you do :lulz: I had a quick looksie, and evidence points to no (without a tremel-no or freelok), but you might find something I missed (hopefully :))
Will do.
Incidentally, what the hell is this going to cost?
QuoteIncidentally, what the hell is this going to cost?
Don't know until we figure out
exactly what pickups/neck/wood/bridge you want, but I can guarantee it will be under £2000 (unless you
really splash out on some of the hardware), quite possibly under £1500, i.e. considerably less than the
starting price for most custom guitars.
RB,
undercutting competitors prices since 1991
p.s. I can reccomend the Dimarzio Twang King for a neck pickup, its what I have on the guitar pictured. The other one is a Dimarzio mini-humbucker, an all-rouder, which isn't as nice, but i needed something versatile, cause it slides :) Those two pickups plus a GOTOH Gibson style bridge cost around $220 (yes, I meant dollars).
EDIT: scrap that ambiguity, we'll aim for under £1500 with shipping incl.
Wow.
Hmmm. I better start saving up money now. Maybe it would be best for both of us if we waited until I could give you an advance, rather than have you build it, and me say, "oops..."
aye thats fair nuff, I'll do a little lookin at pickup/bridge options etc. to get a more accurate idea of price if you like?
Also, once you start the thing, how long would it take to finish?
about 2-3 months at most, once its past planning, and assuming I can get hold of the materials fairly easily (should all be fairly straightforward apart from the neck).
My boat took about a month, my own guitar took about 2-3 weeks.
Also, I found a cheap parts supplier (as in, cheaper than other places, not bad quality) that does free shipping within UK
Record something - I need to know how this sounds! The copper under the middle pickup, that's gotta do something, right? Magnetic fields is something I'm clueless about but I'm guessing the magnetic field will be a different shape or frequency or centiliter or something?
Ok, so US$1900 might be a little high.
Let's scale back, and just include what I mainly use a guitar for:
Block of wood
6 strings
1 single coil pickup
Hell, I don't even need a volume knob. How much?
'bout $700 +p&p
probably overbudgeting there, but I'd rather that the exact price was a pleasant suprise, as I'm sure you would :)
x
edd
EDIT: by overbudget, I mean, I double the expected price of the wood (to cover the eventuality you want nice looking wood), and added in a second pickup, and a mid priced neck not low end.
Quote from: LMNO on May 11, 2010, 02:22:28 PM
I would like a stringed instrument that has the following:
Semi-hollow
Six strings
The 1st and the 4th string from the top should have a hipshot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipshot) to raise or lower the string at least a whole step (2 frets).
Floating bridge
tremolo bar
1 single coil pickup
1 humbucker pickup
1 D-Tar (http://www.d-tar.com/soundspots.shtml) or similar pickup
wiring to isolate or blend individual pickups
2 output jacks
a Vocoder
Re-e-e-e-e-e-v-e-e-e-erb
fixxt!
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on May 12, 2010, 05:20:33 PM
Record something - I need to know how this sounds! The copper under the middle pickup, that's gotta do something, right? Magnetic fields is something I'm clueless about but I'm guessing the magnetic field will be a different shape or frequency or centiliter or something?
It actually sounds very much like a normal guitar, only real difference is that that middle pickup can slide between bridge position as well (see voodoo chile by hendrix at 0:44 for an idea of what this effect sounds like, although jimi is doing it with a 5-way pickup selector). The sliding can create some weirdness with effects as well, the slow attack on my pedal combined with just sliding the pickup up and down (without playing) creates a kind of grating metal wilaing sound. It's pretty cool :)
Probably won't be able to record anything for a few weeks as that guitar is at home :(
On a only slightly related subject, RB and Trip: you better be getting your shit together for getting to Edinburgh on June 12th.
Or I'll "Customise" a guitar on your heads.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Payne on May 13, 2010, 12:55:20 PM
On a only slightly related subject, RB and Trip: you better be getting your shit together for getting to Edinburgh on June 12th.
Or I'll "Customise" a guitar on your heads.
I have teh accomodation! Just need a train. On a scale of 1-Holy FUCK, what kind of hangover should I be expecting? thus what train would be advisable homewards? *answer in Edinburgh thread please* :)
Quote'bout $700 +p&p
probably overbudgeting there, but I'd rather that the exact price was a pleasant suprise, as I'm sure you would smile
x
edd
EDIT: by overbudget, I mean, I double the expected price of the wood (to cover the eventuality you want nice looking wood), and added in a second pickup, and a mid priced neck not low end.
in case you missed it LMNO
Thanks, RB. I'll see what I can scrape together.
cool beans, and just cause I was bored:
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/llamaranger/LMNOguitar.jpg)
also, found unfinished strat neck for £25, needs fretboard and frets, but should still be way under what I had originally budgeted for the neck :)