Making this prediction now so I have evidence I called. The economic crisis will sink Obama and the Movement will rise to power again, maybe in 2012 but more likely in 2016, and this time they'll finish off what they started under Bush.
Im hoping Palin 2012... but I suspect she is too dumb to actually succeed
Allegedly, she is smarter in person than she appears on the news. That is what I have heard from people, at least, including those who don't politically agree with her.
I would hope so, anyway. Someone apparently that dumb shouldn't be able to rise that high without major backing.
Quote from: Cain on July 19, 2009, 05:52:26 PM
Allegedly, she is smarter in person than she appears on the news. That is what I have heard from people, at least, including those who don't politically agree with her.
I would hope so, anyway. Someone apparently that dumb shouldn't be able to rise that high without major backing.
From what i've read the way she's managed to rise this high has been through lying, conniving, and just being an all around ThunderCunt.
Quote from: Cain on July 19, 2009, 04:16:18 PM
Making this prediction now so I have evidence I called. The economic crisis will sink Obama and the Movement will rise to power again, maybe in 2012 but more likely in 2016, and this time they'll finish off what they started under Bush.
2016.
I could be wrong. Palin could win in 2012, I suppose. If that's the case, I want you Euros to come over here and SHOOT ME IN THE FACE.
Quote from: Cain on July 19, 2009, 05:52:26 PM
Allegedly, she is smarter in person than she appears on the news. That is what I have heard from people, at least, including those who don't politically agree with her.
I would hope so, anyway. Someone apparently that dumb shouldn't be able to rise that high without major backing.
Or through the hordes of the smashed chromosome. She's very popular with the WalMart crowd.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/112252/gop-faithful-like-romney-huckabee-2012.aspx
:horrormirth:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 19, 2009, 06:53:38 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 19, 2009, 05:52:26 PM
Allegedly, she is smarter in person than she appears on the news. That is what I have heard from people, at least, including those who don't politically agree with her.
I would hope so, anyway. Someone apparently that dumb shouldn't be able to rise that high without major backing.
Or through the hordes of the smashed chromosome. She's very popular with the WalMart crowd.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/112252/gop-faithful-like-romney-huckabee-2012.aspx
:horrormirth:
if the economy continues to drag and there isn't a big turn out
you guys are completely completely fucked
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on July 19, 2009, 06:59:11 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 19, 2009, 06:53:38 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 19, 2009, 05:52:26 PM
Allegedly, she is smarter in person than she appears on the news. That is what I have heard from people, at least, including those who don't politically agree with her.
I would hope so, anyway. Someone apparently that dumb shouldn't be able to rise that high without major backing.
Or through the hordes of the smashed chromosome. She's very popular with the WalMart crowd.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/112252/gop-faithful-like-romney-huckabee-2012.aspx
:horrormirth:
if the economy continues to drag and there isn't a big turn out
you guys are completely completely fucked
Nonsense. Only those that are unprepared, that are unwilling or unable to do what it takes to have a good time, are fucked. I actually did very well throughout the Bush years.
Also, the Bush years were
funnier. I had more FUN than I do now. I'm kinda looking forward to this...if only there were a way the Canucks and Europeans wouldn't find out we elected another dumbass. I mean, it's
embarrassing. Like when the neighbors all find out about that horrible
thing you're in the habit of doing when you have too many at the Labor Day block party and forget where you are, right? I mean, who hasn't been there?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 19, 2009, 06:51:05 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 19, 2009, 04:16:18 PM
Making this prediction now so I have evidence I called. The economic crisis will sink Obama and the Movement will rise to power again, maybe in 2012 but more likely in 2016, and this time they'll finish off what they started under Bush.
2016.
I could be wrong. Palin could win in 2012, I suppose. If that's the case, I want you Euros to come over here and SHOOT ME IN THE FACE.
We'll trade you her for Putin
and Berlusconi.
Srsly though, I'm looking at the market indicators and apparently, right now, the real unemployment rate in the USA is 16%. It'll likely be 20% by the end of the year, and there are indicators the second stage of the financial crisis should be starting in the next few months. They'll hammer the Dems in the midterms over unemployment, the stimulus and (likely) the failing war in Afghanistan, probably wont get a majority, but might have enough to sink any hopes of the Dems getting their act together and actually using their Supermajority (thanks, Big Tent Politics, for reducing the effectiveness of the Democrats. Well, that and their utter lack of a spine). They'll then build on that to show Obama can't govern efficiently and BOOM! Republi-Lenin, whoever that may be, gets in.
I'm still not sure who that may be yet, but I'll be keeping an eye out.
Quote from: Cain on July 19, 2009, 07:35:48 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 19, 2009, 06:51:05 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 19, 2009, 04:16:18 PM
Making this prediction now so I have evidence I called. The economic crisis will sink Obama and the Movement will rise to power again, maybe in 2012 but more likely in 2016, and this time they'll finish off what they started under Bush.
2016.
I could be wrong. Palin could win in 2012, I suppose. If that's the case, I want you Euros to come over here and SHOOT ME IN THE FACE.
We'll trade you her for Putin and Berlusconi.
Srsly though, I'm looking at the market indicators and apparently, right now, the real unemployment rate in the USA is 16%. It'll likely be 20% by the end of the year, and there are indicators the second stage of the financial crisis should be starting in the next few months. They'll hammer the Dems in the midterms over unemployment, the stimulus and (likely) the failing war in Afghanistan, probably wont get a majority, but might have enough to sink any hopes of the Dems getting their act together and actually using their Supermajority (thanks, Big Tent Politics, for reducing the effectiveness of the Democrats. Well, that and their utter lack of a spine). They'll then build on that to show Obama can't govern efficiently and BOOM! Republi-Lenin, whoever that may be, gets in.
I'm still not sure who that may be yet, but I'll be keeping an eye out.
The dems are doing pretty well at hanging this around the GOP's neck. We'll see if that lasts until next year, though.
And the dems are fucking useless. Fucking pansies.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 19, 2009, 06:51:05 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 19, 2009, 04:16:18 PM
Making this prediction now so I have evidence I called. The economic crisis will sink Obama and the Movement will rise to power again, maybe in 2012 but more likely in 2016, and this time they'll finish off what they started under Bush.
2016.
I could be wrong. Palin could win in 2012, I suppose. If that's the case, I want you Euros to come over here and SHOOT ME IN THE FACE.
Me too, if you please. :x
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 19, 2009, 06:51:05 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 19, 2009, 04:16:18 PM
Making this prediction now so I have evidence I called. The economic crisis will sink Obama and the Movement will rise to power again, maybe in 2012 but more likely in 2016, and this time they'll finish off what they started under Bush.
2016.
I could be wrong. Palin could win in 2012, I suppose. If that's the case, I want you Euros to come over here and SHOOT ME IN THE FACE.
Total fucking ditto. Course, I could just shoot myself, but where would be the fun in THAT?
Quote from: Cain on July 19, 2009, 07:35:48 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on July 19, 2009, 06:51:05 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 19, 2009, 04:16:18 PM
Making this prediction now so I have evidence I called. The economic crisis will sink Obama and the Movement will rise to power again, maybe in 2012 but more likely in 2016, and this time they'll finish off what they started under Bush.
2016.
I could be wrong. Palin could win in 2012, I suppose. If that's the case, I want you Euros to come over here and SHOOT ME IN THE FACE.
We'll trade you her for Putin and Berlusconi.
Srsly though, I'm looking at the market indicators and apparently, right now, the real unemployment rate in the USA is 16%. It'll likely be 20% by the end of the year, and there are indicators the second stage of the financial crisis should be starting in the next few months. They'll hammer the Dems in the midterms over unemployment, the stimulus and (likely) the failing war in Afghanistan, probably wont get a majority, but might have enough to sink any hopes of the Dems getting their act together and actually using their Supermajority (thanks, Big Tent Politics, for reducing the effectiveness of the Democrats. Well, that and their utter lack of a spine). They'll then build on that to show Obama can't govern efficiently and BOOM! Republi-Lenin, whoever that may be, gets in.
I'm still not sure who that may be yet, but I'll be keeping an eye out.
I seriously think that the Obama "people" (I think that didactic has changed between the campaign and the entry into the White House) had wanted the grassroots contingent that helped get him elected to step up and keep the chatter going about how great and wonderful his policies are and are going to be. That seems to be falling off, and that will help end his effectiveness and seal his fate as the one to blame.
I know I keep getting these invitations and emails to peoples' "salons" where you sit and bullshit and fingerpoint about WHAT TO DO, WHAT TO DOOOO! about the crises du jour. I've been to one of these, on No Child Left Behind, a few months ago. It was a way for manic panickers to sit amongst the gentrified elite intelligentsia of the area and yammer about tinfoil hat politics and point out why everyone should follow their way of thinking or the world was dooooomed. Got old, really fast. My husband went to another one at someone's house that was about the health crisis, but he claimed that though it was a little more well-organized than the one I went to, it was similarly ineffectual in finding any workable answers.
And I'm now wondering if the Obama "people" were thinking that this could keep up indefinitely, where the grassroots Democrats and the middle grounders would be placated by thinking they had a hand in this so-called "change" that has yet to happen, or if they'd one day finally notice that all their R&D grouping gained so little ground that it was just all a big, fat waste of time.
Quote from: Cain on July 19, 2009, 05:52:26 PM
Allegedly, she is smarter in person than she appears on the news. That is what I have heard from people, at least, including those who don't politically agree with her.
I would hope so, anyway. Someone apparently that dumb shouldn't be able to rise that high without major backing.
Isn't that to be expected? In the same way Obama appealed to those who primarily wanted a President who could think, Palin appeals to people who primarily want to feel good about themselves for aesthetics and for not thinking too much. It doesn't require major backing. And it doesn't require that Palin is actually smart enough to front an intentional split personality. If you accept the premise, then emergence will do the leg-work of finding someone who completes the picture.
Except I think that idea majorly fucking backfired on the Republitards, and fast. McCain's people couldn't WAIT to shake her as soon as the election was over, and blamed her and her family for every little thing possible.
Meaning: she was actually a rift-causer not a rift-minimizer within the now-very-split Republican camp. The neocons vs. the rednecks will still last out a while yet, but the Demorats are too stupid to pick it up and run with it anymore.
Let's hope the Repugs don't manage to heal that rift by the time midterms come around or we may be as fucked as Cain suggests. I like my Republicans dumb and split, thanks.
If in fact the Republicans get their shit together, I think I'll find a way to watch the fireworks from afar. It's more entertaining then being next to the fuses.
Quote from: The Nerve-Ending Fairy on July 21, 2009, 01:32:35 AM
If in fact the Republicans get their shit together, I think I'll find a way to watch the fireworks from afar. It's more entertaining then being next to the fuses.
I used to think Canada was far enough away, but alas not, it seems..
Har. Here in Toronto, Amurrica IS Canada. (Apologies to the natives, but your cable has ATLANTA tv fer fucksakes)
Quote from: Jenne on July 21, 2009, 01:36:14 AM
Har. Here in Toronto, Amurrica IS Canada. (Apologies to the natives, but your cable has ATLANTA tv fer fucksakes)
I wish we got atlanta tv up north
you in my country jenne?
and if so how longs
Quote from: Jenne on July 21, 2009, 01:36:14 AM
Har. Here in Toronto, Amurrica IS Canada. (Apologies to the natives, but your cable has ATLANTA tv fer fucksakes)
How are you enjoying Toronto? We've been having the crappiest summer so far - so apologies for that. Plus, being a tourist destination, a lot of places here downtown take US as well as Canadian currency.
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on July 21, 2009, 01:37:56 AM
Quote from: Jenne on July 21, 2009, 01:36:14 AM
Har. Here in Toronto, Amurrica IS Canada. (Apologies to the natives, but your cable has ATLANTA tv fer fucksakes)
I wish we got atlanta tv up north
you in my country jenne?
and if so how longs
I am NOT that far from you, as it happens, TI. I'm in Toronto till Sat. I'm trying to hook up w/Hoops for a beer--looks like tomorrow night--you mobile?
fictionpuss, ON is nice and GREEN, which is always a plus in my book coming from the browns of the So Cali desert as I do. The summer weather is fine to me since I'm not really here for sun--I come from sun, so anything different is ok. I'm having shit luck, though, as I currently have a lung infection and had to send the husband to NY yesterday (well, shit, he was going to Niagara Falls anyway, so no biggie to hop across and pay the $$ for the drugs) to get me antibx.
So hack-cough-hack I hope to be in better form tomorrow.
Quote from: Jenne on July 21, 2009, 01:48:46 AM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on July 21, 2009, 01:37:56 AM
Quote from: Jenne on July 21, 2009, 01:36:14 AM
Har. Here in Toronto, Amurrica IS Canada. (Apologies to the natives, but your cable has ATLANTA tv fer fucksakes)
I wish we got atlanta tv up north
you in my country jenne?
and if so how longs
I am NOT that far from you, as it happens, TI. I'm in Toronto till Sat. I'm trying to hook up w/Hoops for a beer--looks like tomorrow night--you mobile?
actually Im 4 hours north of you, if you take the new highway
my friend in Toronto has been bugging me to come down with him (he works up here during the week) don't know though if I could make it before Saturday - ill drop him a facebook message though
Quote from: Jenne on July 21, 2009, 01:48:46 AM
fictionpuss, ON is nice and GREEN, which is always a plus in my book coming from the browns of the So Cali desert as I do. The summer weather is fine to me since I'm not really here for sun--I come from sun, so anything different is ok.
^That. Everything here is dead and brown by the beginning of June at the latest, so greenery is always welcome.
Canada's just a bit too close to really enjoy the show. On the other hands, there's no place that's the ideal distance and I'm sure Americans will not necessarily receive a warm welcome in a lot of places if we has the dumb and elect another mouth breather.
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on July 21, 2009, 01:51:43 AM
Quote from: Jenne on July 21, 2009, 01:48:46 AM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on July 21, 2009, 01:37:56 AM
Quote from: Jenne on July 21, 2009, 01:36:14 AM
Har. Here in Toronto, Amurrica IS Canada. (Apologies to the natives, but your cable has ATLANTA tv fer fucksakes)
I wish we got atlanta tv up north
you in my country jenne?
and if so how longs
I am NOT that far from you, as it happens, TI. I'm in Toronto till Sat. I'm trying to hook up w/Hoops for a beer--looks like tomorrow night--you mobile?
actually Im 4 hours north of you, if you take the new highway
my friend in Toronto has been bugging me to come down with him (he works up here during the week) don't know though if I could make it before Saturday - ill drop him a facebook message though
well, do whatcha can, dude, and pm me details when you have 'em! :D
I don't know...the view from the Kremlin must be pretty good.
Quote from: The Nerve-Ending Fairy on July 21, 2009, 01:54:54 AM
Quote from: Jenne on July 21, 2009, 01:48:46 AM
fictionpuss, ON is nice and GREEN, which is always a plus in my book coming from the browns of the So Cali desert as I do. The summer weather is fine to me since I'm not really here for sun--I come from sun, so anything different is ok.
^That. Everything here is dead and brown by the beginning of June at the latest, so greenery is always welcome.
Canada's just a bit too close to really enjoy the show. On the other hands, there's no place that's the ideal distance and I'm sure Americans will not necessarily receive a warm welcome in a lot of places if we has the dumb and elect another mouth breather.
:lulz: Canada's got enough of a show on its own. The trash crisis here alone is :lulz:-worthy.
Jenne if you think southern Ontario is green come up north and see me
trust me you have NO idea
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on July 21, 2009, 01:57:41 AM
Jenne if you think southern Ontario is green come up north and see me
trust me you have NO idea
I believe you--I got to see a NIP of Scotland...damn that place was hurting my eyes it was so green. It's just the WEATHER you have to well, WEATHER in order to GET the green that would probably slay me.
I'm a weather wimp.
Quote from: Jenne on July 21, 2009, 01:59:02 AM
I believe you--I got to see a NIP of Scotland...damn that place was hurting my eyes it was so green. It's just the WEATHER you have to well, WEATHER in order to GET the green that would probably slay me.
That's one of the reasons I escaped Scotland and return as infrequently as possible. I miss the colour but not the weather.