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Principia Discordia => Aneristic Illusions => Topic started by: Telarus on September 29, 2009, 07:42:49 AM

Title: Unlimited WINDOWS 7 Memetic-Fail Thread
Post by: Telarus on September 29, 2009, 07:42:49 AM
Quote from: 'some spag on slashdot'Most advertisements only evoke one or two emotions. This one manages to make me feel despair, disgust, fear, and rage, all at the same time.

[Microsoft has] truly taken it to the next level.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cX4t5-YpHQ
:facepalm:


On the other hand, this was pretty good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyas7BrbUFY
Title: Re: Unlimited WINDOWS 7 Memetic-Fail Thread
Post by: Telarus on September 29, 2009, 07:53:04 AM
 :lulz:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/sep/28/charlie-brooker-microsoft-mac-windows

With a screenshot from the failtastic video.
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2009/9/25/1253897986891/Windows-7-party-001.jpg) (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/sep/28/charlie-brooker-microsoft-mac-windows)
Title: Re: Unlimited WINDOWS 7 Memetic-Fail Thread
Post by: Cramulus on September 29, 2009, 02:59:08 PM
Quote from: Telarus on September 29, 2009, 07:42:49 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cX4t5-YpHQ
:facepalm:

ah jeez

I was just reading The Society of the Spectacle

and I think this is exactly what DeBoard was warning us about


software launch as a reason to "party"???
the event isn't "real" unless it's digitally recorded for others to "experience" by proxy

the forced illusion that this is how people act


and the sad thing is, people actually will do this
SOMEBODY'S going to have a Windows 7 launch party

SPECTACULAR

I'm watcihng this vid right now, and they're talking about how exciting it is to share the windows7 features with your friends
I seriously want to hurl
Title: Re: Unlimited WINDOWS 7 Memetic-Fail Thread
Post by: Precious Moments Zalgo on September 29, 2009, 03:36:46 PM
Quote from: Cramulusand the sad thing is, people actually will do this
SOMEBODY'S going to have a Windows 7 launch party
Apparently lots of people are.  http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22windows+7+launch+party%22+site%3Aclubhouse.microsoft.com


I didn't do this, but :lulz:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/GettingReadyforWindows7/thread/06541fef-dbd6-4bc2-b99a-91eab21bb697
Title: Re: Unlimited WINDOWS 7 Memetic-Fail Thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on September 29, 2009, 03:44:15 PM
Trolls and astroturfers.  Has to be.  My continued lack of homicidal rampages requires I think of those links that way.

I should start hitting the job market again soon, lots of HR people who will think my 'experience' with windows 7 will be worth something.
Title: Re: Unlimited WINDOWS 7 Memetic-Fail Thread
Post by: Golden Applesauce on September 29, 2009, 04:06:09 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on September 29, 2009, 02:59:08 PM
Quote from: Telarus on September 29, 2009, 07:42:49 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cX4t5-YpHQ
:facepalm:

ah jeez

I was just reading The Society of the Spectacle

and I think this is exactly what DeBoard was warning us about


software launch as a reason to "party"???
the event isn't "real" unless it's digitally recorded for others to "experience" by proxy

the forced illusion that this is how people act


and the sad thing is, people actually will do this
SOMEBODY'S going to have a Windows 7 launch party

SPECTACULAR

I'm watcihng this vid right now, and they're talking about how exciting it is to share the windows7 features with your friends
I seriously want to hurl

To look at it from the other side of the coin, people love to party but feel that they shouldn't without having a good reason to.  Think of this as an excuse for people who know the difference between an icon and a file to have fun?  For the beleaguered community of people who have to develop software for Windows to get together and hope that maybe this time it will be different?

And if the people are actually installing 7 at the party, simply being around other people who are also installing 7 will help everybody get over the inevitable "WTF IS THIS UI, MICROSOFT?!?!!" moments.

Fun fact: At my university, they recently instituted a requirement that all mac and windows boxes be running Symantec Endpoint Protection 11 and a Cisco Access Control Agent or something in order to connect to the school network.  SEP 11 does not work on Windows 7 and won't for some time.  Who is running Windows 7?  CompSci students who are beta testing the release.

Title: Re: Unlimited WINDOWS 7 Memetic-Fail Thread
Post by: Cramulus on September 29, 2009, 04:14:12 PM
Quote from: GA on September 29, 2009, 04:06:09 PM
To look at it from the other side of the coin, people love to party but feel that they shouldn't without having a good reason to.  Think of this as an excuse for people who know the difference between an icon and a file to have fun?  For the beleaguered community of people who have to develop software for Windows to get together and hope that maybe this time it will be different?

And if the people are actually installing 7 at the party, simply being around other people who are also installing 7 will help everybody get over the inevitable "WTF IS THIS UI, MICROSOFT?!?!!" moments.

yes, it's a good stand-in for people who genuinely crave an authentic experience with other human beings, but have forgotten how to do that because the only thing going on in their life is the Windows 7 release.

it's still the diet coke of human experience


from http://houseparty.com/windows7usa

Now that you're a host, you might be wondering "How does this all work?"
    * Select a theme – Whichever day you choose for your party between October 22 - 29, when sending your party invitations, choose from Setting Up With Ease, Family Friendly Fun, Media Mania, or PhotoPalooza
    * Prepare to be a Windows® 7 expert – Watch the Host Help Videos and download the Host Notes for click by click instructions to do everything you see in the videos.
    * Plan your party – Decide what to serve and where to show Windows® 7.
    * Party Now — Your party may be weeks away, but the fun starts today! Send invites; post comments; upload photos and videos.



it's that last line that really kills me. That the FUN of the party is posting comments and uploading videos!





ahhhhhhhhhhghghghghghg I just got hit with the irony
of commiserating with you guys on an internet forum about how human experience is getting watered down by inauthenticity



if it makes my post any more authentic, my ennui is real!  :lulz:
Title: Re: Unlimited WINDOWS 7 Memetic-Fail Thread
Post by: AFK on September 29, 2009, 04:16:38 PM
Clearly Microsoft is promoting drinking.  I mean how else would you get someone to go to a Microsoft Windows party?  Now, how to use this to my advantage...
Title: Re: Unlimited WINDOWS 7 Memetic-Fail Thread
Post by: LMNO on September 29, 2009, 04:18:12 PM
"Windows 7 is the new Jenkem," perhaps?
Title: Re: Unlimited WINDOWS 7 Memetic-Fail Thread
Post by: AFK on September 29, 2009, 04:21:53 PM
Now I just need some Grant money. 
Title: Re: Unlimited WINDOWS 7 Memetic-Fail Thread
Post by: Precious Moments Zalgo on September 29, 2009, 04:22:22 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on September 29, 2009, 03:44:15 PMTrolls and astroturfers.  Has to be.
Looks like there are going to be thousands (http://www.houseparty.com/windows7) of these parties, with hundreds in my area (http://www.houseparty.com/windows7usa) alone.

Quote from: Requia ☣ on September 29, 2009, 03:44:15 PMMy continued lack of homicidal rampages requires I think of those links that way.
Wait, nevermind, forget I said anything.
Title: Re: Unlimited WINDOWS 7 Memetic-Fail Thread
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on September 29, 2009, 05:48:21 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on September 29, 2009, 04:14:12 PM

it's that last line that really kills me. That the FUN of the party is posting comments and uploading videos!





ahhhhhhhhhhghghghghghg I just got hit with the irony
of commiserating with you guys on an internet forum about how human experience is getting watered down by inauthenticity



if it makes my post any more authentic, my ennui is real!  :lulz:


You should also post a Facebook status about it. Nothing in your life is Real unless at least one other person "likes" it. A comment or two makes it even more real.
Title: Re: Unlimited WINDOWS 7 Memetic-Fail Thread
Post by: Captain Utopia on September 29, 2009, 05:59:48 PM
If only they had hired Ben Mack to help with the marketing. Oh wait, is that where he went to?
Title: Re: Unlimited WINDOWS 7 Memetic-Fail Thread
Post by: Shibboleet The Annihilator on October 01, 2009, 05:43:58 AM
1) This has nothing to do with politics.
2) Holy fuckballs, that video is terrible!
3) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0fhg1LgVCg
4) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LfeHbTkz6k
5) Actually, Windows 7 is pretty good.
Title: Re: Unlimited WINDOWS 7 Memetic-Fail Thread
Post by: Shibboleet The Annihilator on October 01, 2009, 05:51:00 AM
Quote from: GA on September 29, 2009, 04:06:09 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on September 29, 2009, 02:59:08 PM
Quote from: Telarus on September 29, 2009, 07:42:49 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cX4t5-YpHQ
:facepalm:

ah jeez

I was just reading The Society of the Spectacle

and I think this is exactly what DeBoard was warning us about


software launch as a reason to "party"???
the event isn't "real" unless it's digitally recorded for others to "experience" by proxy

the forced illusion that this is how people act


and the sad thing is, people actually will do this
SOMEBODY'S going to have a Windows 7 launch party

SPECTACULAR

I'm watcihng this vid right now, and they're talking about how exciting it is to share the windows7 features with your friends
I seriously want to hurl

To look at it from the other side of the coin, people love to party but feel that they shouldn't without having a good reason to.  Think of this as an excuse for people who know the difference between an icon and a file to have fun?  For the beleaguered community of people who have to develop software for Windows to get together and hope that maybe this time it will be different?

And if the people are actually installing 7 at the party, simply being around other people who are also installing 7 will help everybody get over the inevitable "WTF IS THIS UI, MICROSOFT?!?!!" moments.

Fun fact: At my university, they recently instituted a requirement that all mac and windows boxes be running Symantec Endpoint Protection 11 and a Cisco Access Control Agent or something in order to connect to the school network.  SEP 11 does not work on Windows 7 and won't for some time.  Who is running Windows 7?  CompSci students who are beta testing the release.



I'm running Windows 7 and I love it (I hated Vista and was ambivalent towards XP). To date my favorite OSes are Crunchbang linux (variant of Ubuntu), OS X 10.5 and Windows 7 in a 3 way tie. Some drivers seem to have some catching up to do, but I still like it a lot and have had few problems. I don't use any Cisco programs (I do like their routers though).
Title: Re: Unlimited WINDOWS 7 Memetic-Fail Thread
Post by: fomenter on October 01, 2009, 05:58:18 AM

this must have a drinking game to go with it right? blue screen - 3 shots
                                                                   start up in safe mode - 2 shots
                                                                   restart to finish installation - 1 shot
                                                                   error message - 1 shot
                                                                   IE automatically loads online help page - 1 shot
Title: Re: Unlimited WINDOWS 7 Memetic-Fail Thread
Post by: rong on October 01, 2009, 07:28:23 AM
i kind of remember windows 95 being sort of a big deal.

so who's gonna post pics of their wild and crazy windows 7 party?

Title: Re: Unlimited WINDOWS 7 Memetic-Fail Thread
Post by: Cain on October 01, 2009, 03:32:05 PM
Quote from: Slanket the Destroyer on October 01, 2009, 05:51:00 AMI'm running Windows 7 and I love it (I hated Vista and was ambivalent towards XP). To date my favorite OSes are Crunchbang linux (variant of Ubuntu), OS X 10.5 and Windows 7 in a 3 way tie. Some drivers seem to have some catching up to do, but I still like it a lot and have had few problems. I don't use any Cisco programs (I do like their routers though).

That sounds like quite a recommendation.  What in particular do you find so much better about it?  I haven't really followed much of the fanfare about Windows 7, so I don't really know what has supposedly been improved, etc.
Title: Re: Unlimited WINDOWS 7 Memetic-Fail Thread
Post by: Rumckle on October 01, 2009, 10:23:04 PM
I dunno,while I expect no sane person to throw one of these parties, it is going to get the rounds on the net seeing how stupid it is. Thus it gets the information out that Windows 7 is about to be released amongst the crowd who would most give a damn. And that same crowd aren't really going to be won over by Microsoft listing the features, they'd prefer some independent information/reviews.
Title: Re: Unlimited WINDOWS 7 Memetic-Fail Thread
Post by: Triple Zero on October 01, 2009, 10:28:18 PM
Quote from: Slanket the Destroyer on October 01, 2009, 05:51:00 AMCrunchbang linux (variant of Ubuntu)

I just googled this, looks pretty good. I may go for this when I turn my netbook XP into a dual boot. I wanted to get a minimalist window manager anyway, but most of them look ugly as fuck.
Title: Re: Unlimited WINDOWS 7 Memetic-Fail Thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 01, 2009, 11:21:37 PM
This thread makes me very, very angry.
Title: Re: Unlimited WINDOWS 7 Memetic-Fail Thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on October 03, 2009, 05:21:27 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 01, 2009, 03:32:05 PM
Quote from: Slanket the Destroyer on October 01, 2009, 05:51:00 AMI'm running Windows 7 and I love it (I hated Vista and was ambivalent towards XP). To date my favorite OSes are Crunchbang linux (variant of Ubuntu), OS X 10.5 and Windows 7 in a 3 way tie. Some drivers seem to have some catching up to do, but I still like it a lot and have had few problems. I don't use any Cisco programs (I do like their routers though).

That sounds like quite a recommendation.  What in particular do you find so much better about it?  I haven't really followed much of the fanfare about Windows 7, so I don't really know what has supposedly been improved, etc.

Its faster, but not above the difference threshold for most people to notice (4% is the only benchmark I''ve seen, the 50-50 for difference in speed is 5%), patches some old security issues and introduces new ones.  When I was supporting it it had the same strange issues with sound the Vista had (this may have been patched, that was months ago), it has a new UI, and there are some under the hood things that I don't fully understand (still no new filesystem).  10 bucks says they still haven't bothered to keep iTunes from breaking the optical drives.

Mostly, its a solution to the problem that most peoples' concept of Vista is Vista when it first came out (which was a nightmare) and not Vista now (which is a fairly decent operating system).
Title: Re: Unlimited WINDOWS 7 Memetic-Fail Thread
Post by: Triple Zero on October 03, 2009, 11:13:25 AM
I'm backing up shit to my TERADISK clearing space and defragmenting as fuck to make space for some new partitions and get me some sweet ass linux asap, it's been too long in this smelly windows and the system is bogging down.
Title: Re: Unlimited WINDOWS 7 Memetic-Fail Thread
Post by: Cain on October 03, 2009, 01:06:46 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on October 03, 2009, 05:21:27 AM
Quote from: Cain on October 01, 2009, 03:32:05 PM
Quote from: Slanket the Destroyer on October 01, 2009, 05:51:00 AMI'm running Windows 7 and I love it (I hated Vista and was ambivalent towards XP). To date my favorite OSes are Crunchbang linux (variant of Ubuntu), OS X 10.5 and Windows 7 in a 3 way tie. Some drivers seem to have some catching up to do, but I still like it a lot and have had few problems. I don't use any Cisco programs (I do like their routers though).

That sounds like quite a recommendation.  What in particular do you find so much better about it?  I haven't really followed much of the fanfare about Windows 7, so I don't really know what has supposedly been improved, etc.

Its faster, but not above the difference threshold for most people to notice (4% is the only benchmark I''ve seen, the 50-50 for difference in speed is 5%), patches some old security issues and introduces new ones.  When I was supporting it it had the same strange issues with sound the Vista had (this may have been patched, that was months ago), it has a new UI, and there are some under the hood things that I don't fully understand (still no new filesystem).  10 bucks says they still haven't bothered to keep iTunes from breaking the optical drives.

Mostly, its a solution to the problem that most peoples' concept of Vista is Vista when it first came out (which was a nightmare) and not Vista now (which is a fairly decent operating system).

Right.  My computer could probably handle it, but since my Vista is patched and all up to date and everything, I probably wouldn't see to big a difference then?
Title: Re: Unlimited WINDOWS 7 Memetic-Fail Thread
Post by: Requia ☣ on October 03, 2009, 05:24:41 PM
I wouldn't expect it.  I do expect to hear endlessly from people who think its faster because they were told it is though.  So if you pretend I never told you this, it might make you happy (or you might turn out to have an exceptional sense of time, its called a 50-50 for a reason)
Title: Re: Unlimited WINDOWS 7 Memetic-Fail Thread
Post by: Rococo Modem Basilisk on October 04, 2009, 01:20:00 AM
So, who wants to start distributing DVD images over bittorrent labelled "Windows 7" that are a bootable Hitler photo slideshow?

*raises hand*
Title: Re: Unlimited WINDOWS 7 Memetic-Fail Thread
Post by: Captain Utopia on October 04, 2009, 01:25:16 AM
Quote from: Enki v. 2.0 on October 04, 2009, 01:20:00 AM
So, who wants to start distributing DVD images over bittorrent labelled "Windows 7" that are a bootable Hitler photo slideshow?

*raises hand*
:| I'd be in for seeding a few misnamed Ubuntu live cds. Or whatever flavour. Thing is, it'll get labelled "fake" on the tracker end after the first download, and that'll be that. Unless there's a way to avoid that happening, but I can't think of one.
Title: Re: Unlimited WINDOWS 7 Memetic-Fail Thread
Post by: Cramulus on October 05, 2009, 03:46:03 PM
skip the hitler pics, distribute windows 3.1
Title: Re: Unlimited WINDOWS 7 Memetic-Fail Thread
Post by: Triple Zero on October 05, 2009, 03:49:00 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 05, 2009, 03:46:03 PM
skip the hitler pics, distribute windows 3.1

That's what the Hebrews thought!
Title: Re: Unlimited WINDOWS 7 Memetic-Fail Thread
Post by: Rococo Modem Basilisk on October 05, 2009, 03:49:41 PM
It shouldn't be too hard to make an ubuntu livecd that looks at first glance identical to windows 7. I mean, the windows UI isn't particularly different from GNOME. Swap out the iconsets and change some default params, then rewrite some of the text. That wouldn't be much of a prank, though.

I have windows 3.11 on 17 or so floppies; it requires an appropriate version of MS-DOS to be preinstalled, and I don't feel like repackaging the whole thing as a disc.
Title: Re: Unlimited WINDOWS 7 Memetic-Fail Thread
Post by: Captain Utopia on October 05, 2009, 04:06:33 PM
Quote from: Enki v. 2.0 on October 05, 2009, 03:49:41 PM
It shouldn't be too hard to make an ubuntu livecd that looks at first glance identical to windows 7. I mean, the windows UI isn't particularly different from GNOME. Swap out the iconsets and change some default params, then rewrite some of the text. That wouldn't be much of a prank, though.
It'd probably make the front-page of Slashdot, especially given the long-running GNU/Discordian connections. Label the disc "Windows 7 upgrade", and you don't even need to bother repackaging any of the software - just don't explicitly state the difference between "upgrade to" and "upgrade from".