...you should put real steel in your SCA weapon. Just kind of wrap some rebar in padding, instead of rittan. Don't tell anyone until it's too late.
Now, you may be asking yourself, "why would Roger say such a horrible thing?"...Or perhaps you've already figured it out. My guess is that there's a bunch of people between you and the regional throne, and the best way to the top is over the broken and bleeding bodies of those who stand in your way. Just like the good old days.
I mean, there's a lot to be said for being King. You get the best tent-space at events, you get to listen to people snivel about why they should be knighted, and then you get to not knight them, thus ruining their dreams and running them out into the wilderness where they will be forced to become furries.
And then there's the women. Kings get ALL the chicks. And a little Prima Nocta never hurt anyone, right? And, judging from SCA events I attended in the 80s, you will be raising the quality of the genetic material involved by several orders of magnitude.
You'd better get started, before anyone else comes up with this idea. After all, do you REALLY want someone ELSE to show up with a 3' chunk of rebar and start flogging you with it, while you are left with nothing but a piece of wood that will turn to powder the first time you try to parry his berserk attacks?
No, no, you'd better get in on the ground floor of this one.
Okay for now,
Your Spiritual Adviser,
Roger.
They're doing cut and thrust now. It's the love child of rapier and rattan...essentially, the fighting form hitting full contact with live steel in armor, that's what.
...naturally the East Kingdom has yet to endorse it fully. So we've been going over the Fechtbuch I.33 a lot lately working on our sword and buckler technique, and the other night when our household when to go play with the big dogs, they were a little frightened of us.
I totally endorse Roger's idea.
Shit, I'd even consider joining the SCA if Richter were king. I assume Suu would also be in some position of power at that point, and I'd just sit back and revel in the ensuing hilarity.
I'm getting close to my positions of power. Herbert has no drive to win crown...General Stuart, however, does.
Also, I should be getting my Award of Arms sometime within the next few months (which I'm not supposed to know about). I'm going to push for a Grant of Arms (Upgrade from Lady to Court Baroness) in the next year or so because I want a fucking coronet, damnit, it's going to be party time...and when I get my Laurel...Oh yes...bwuahahahahahaa....
-Suu
Is neglecting the 501st for a reason.
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on September 30, 2009, 10:52:13 PM
I totally endorse Roger's idea.
Shit, I'd even consider joining the SCA if Richter were king. I assume Suu would also be in some position of power at that point, and I'd just sit back and revel in the ensuing hilarity.
If Richter becomes King, or Suu becomes Queen, I am totally relocating.
TGRR,
The next Thomas A'Beckett (Who will rid me of this turbulent spag?)
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 30, 2009, 11:02:30 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on September 30, 2009, 10:52:13 PM
I totally endorse Roger's idea.
Shit, I'd even consider joining the SCA if Richter were king. I assume Suu would also be in some position of power at that point, and I'd just sit back and revel in the ensuing hilarity.
If Richter becomes King, or Suu becomes Queen, I am totally relocating.
TGRR,
The next Thomas A'Beckett (Who will rid me of this turbulent spag?)
THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN NOW
I want to watch TGRR drunk and in chain maile, beating the shit out of random people and shitting hate so hard he becomes incoherent.
Spittle EVERYWHERE.
A veritable fucking HATE SPITTLE TSUNAMI.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 30, 2009, 11:02:30 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on September 30, 2009, 10:52:13 PM
I totally endorse Roger's idea.
Shit, I'd even consider joining the SCA if Richter were king. I assume Suu would also be in some position of power at that point, and I'd just sit back and revel in the ensuing hilarity.
If Richter becomes King, or Suu becomes Queen, I am totally relocating.
TGRR,
The next Thomas A'Beckett (Who will rid me of this turbulent spag?)
It'll be a short move. We're only wearing the gold coronets for 6 months.
Though I have a feeling what will happen is that a few years from now, Richter, General Stuart, Colonel Voelker, Herbert, and the rest of the current late-20 somethings will be fighting in Crown Tournament, and a good chunk of them will put my name down for consort except for Herbert, who'd pick some random 18 year old with boobs that weigh more alone than my entire body. So I have a better chance of being queen then the rest of the spags have of being king...because I'm that politically devious. In fact, my goal is to be Duchess Suu (queen twice or more) before Herbert can even call himself Count (king once).
GODDAMIT Roger, you're RIGHT.
Regardless of skill / potential, with an equalizer like that, it wouldn't be a problem. Winning crown would less of a problem if half the people likely to compete just to take me out have season - ending injuries from warm up bouts.
As far as BEING king, the figurehead BS that goes on needs a bit of a revision. It's been YEARS since some young hot stick just went about messing things up. I'm thinking it's time they had another EMPEROR, or WARLORD. Of course, I will be a fair and equitable barbarian, I ask only dying loyalty and exclusive breeding rights.
Of course, by right of the horde, none shall usurp, question, or contradict my authority, or they will meet my steel endowed doom-stick. My loaded sword shall be the thing of legends. I will call it SHITFUCKDAMN, after the sound people make when it hits their tender skeletons. My other loaded tool shall perpetrate Genghis Khan levels of genetic influence. Better than leaving it up to chance. I'll need an academy set up for the little buggers, training until they grow up enough to challenge me to a fight to the death for my Empire.
This will piss the FUCK out of corporate, so if I do it right, I'll be the last king too.
Granted, at war, the thrill of fighting an ACTUAL Evil Overlord will certainly attract the greatest army to me.
After that I may well annex a state or so for laughs. We'll need the space, since Im going to make Wal-mart shoppers legal siege weapon ammo for practice melees.
I'll need someone to provide spiritual advice and assassination attempts, can I contact you once I'm sure they won't carpet bomb me upon coronation?
Richter, it occurs to me that a swarm of SCA spags armed with real weapons is the ONE THING the US Government is not prepared to deal with.
They'll never see it coming. Plus, you could use teabaggers as kerns. They're dense as fuck, they'd go for it.
Quote from: Suu on September 30, 2009, 11:08:07 PM
and a good chunk of them will put my name down for consort except for Herbert, who'd pick some random 18 year old with boobs that weigh more alone than my entire body.
I've been wondering about something concerning the lad...
Aren't you supposed to wait til you're 40 or so to have a midlife crisis?
Quote from: Richter on September 30, 2009, 11:09:11 PM
some young hot stick
Quotemy steel endowed doom-stick
QuoteMy other loaded tool
:fap: :fap: :fap:
Lucan disrupted the FUCK out of the East when he won at 19, that's for sure.
Also, General Stuart said that he wants the title Generalissimo rather than king, so he can run it more like a huge ass military outfit rather than an imperium.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 30, 2009, 11:13:46 PM
Richter, it occurs to me that a swarm of SCA spags armed with real weapons is the ONE THING the US Government is not prepared to deal with.
They'll never see it coming. Plus, you could use teabaggers as kerns. They're dense as fuck, they'd go for it.
Dick Cheney and the FBI were both concerned about that fact.
Technically the SCA has the world's largest private standing army, but it'd be a small miracle to get all the groups working together
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on September 30, 2009, 11:15:27 PM
Quote from: Richter on September 30, 2009, 11:09:11 PM
some young hot stick
Quotemy steel endowed doom-stick
QuoteMy other loaded tool
:fap: :fap: :fap:
Overlord "The Other Hammer is my penis" Richter
Quote from: Richter on September 30, 2009, 11:20:48 PM
Dick Cheney and the FBI were both concerned about that fact.
What? Nooooooooooooooooooooo! That's TOO funny! :lulz:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 30, 2009, 11:23:31 PM
Quote from: Richter on September 30, 2009, 11:20:48 PM
Dick Cheney and the FBI were both concerned about that fact.
What? Nooooooooooooooooooooo! That's TOO funny! :lulz:
Oh YES. They have files. We know this because SCA people worked with both, and told the rest of us.
Yes. Dick Cheney is scared SHITLESS of the SCA. You should have seen the fucking Apache's that circled Pennsic! The government is all over us like white on rice.
(Actually, they say they use Pennsic for drills since we set it up like a really real army encampment.)
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The only reason the swordfight group here in Portland escapes that type of attention is because we don't train in group tactics.
This reminds me of an SCA story from the Left Coast here. The Canadian Mounties were training in anti-protest tactics here a few years ago, and one of the officers had some friends in the SCA. So they invited out a handful of the heavy fighters out to some remote intersection to help train the anti-riot squad. The SCA blokes show up with their training gear to a group of mounties in full head-gear and body armor with batons that outnumbered them at least 2-1.
Most of the SCA guys towered over the crowd of mounties, and the mounties started looking nervous as they got out helms and rattan swords, and started strapping on their own armor. Then the heavy fighters started getting out their shields when the officer in charge walks up to them. He tells them that they can't use their shields because the exercise wants to recreate a "street disturbance". He wants to stay "realistic" and while he can OK the armor for protective purposes, and the rattan swords can stand in for bats or planks of wood, he can't rationalize a 'random crowd' with ready access to shields. The heavy fighters start to nod when the line of mounties starts unloading full-body plexiglass shields.
Realizing what they're now up against, some of the SCA dudes want to go home. The biggest of them interjects and says, No, I've got something to even the odds.
Both groups of fighters watch as he strolls over to the intersection, grabs the Stop sign with both hands and with 3 violent diagonal jerks, rips it out of the ground along with a good chunk of the cement anchor.
He swings it a few times, then walks over to the Mountie commander, the stop-sign pole-arm nicely counterweighted by the chunk of cement and says Is this Real enough for you?
Well, the SCA got to use their shields that day...... and I'm sure it was much more fun for everyone involved.
I've never been interested in anything SCA related until just now. Awesome story Telarus!
Quote from: Telarus on October 01, 2009, 01:25:41 AM
The only reason the swordfight group here in Portland escapes that type of attention is because we don't train in group tactics.
This reminds me of an SCA story from the Left Coast here. The Canadian Mounties were training in anti-protest tactics here a few years ago, and one of the officers had some friends in the SCA. So they invited out a handful of the heavy fighters out to some remote intersection to help train the anti-riot squad. The SCA blokes show up with their training gear to a group of mounties in full head-gear and body armor with batons that outnumbered them at least 2-1.
Most of the SCA guys towered over the crowd of mounties, and the mounties started looking nervous as they got out helms and rattan swords, and started strapping on their own armor. Then the heavy fighters started getting out their shields when the officer in charge walks up to them. He tells them that they can't use their shields because the exercise wants to recreate a "street disturbance". He wants to stay "realistic" and while he can OK the armor for protective purposes, and the rattan swords can stand in for bats or planks of wood, he can't rationalize a 'random crowd' with ready access to shields. The heavy fighters start to nod when the line of mounties starts unloading full-body plexiglass shields.
Realizing what they're now up against, some of the SCA dudes want to go home. The biggest of them interjects and says, No, I've got something to even the odds.
Both groups of fighters watch as he strolls over to the intersection, grabs the Stop sign with both hands and with 3 violent diagonal jerks, rips it out of the ground along with a good chunk of the cement anchor.
He swings it a few times, then walks over to the Mountie commander, the stop-sign pole-arm nicely counterweighted by the chunk of cement and says Is this Real enough for you?
Well, the SCA got to use their shields that day...... and I'm sure it was much more fun for everyone involved.
Crazy ass An Tir fighters!
We have several hundred Landskeneckts (sp?) here, and they drill next to a children's playground.
This is viewed as responsible behavior by Tucson standards.
I'd rather let my kids play next to a band of armored men in brightly colored codpieces than any other street gang....but my point of view is skewed, considering our household (Free Companie of the Golden Tygre) is based on Landsknecht ideals, sans puff n' slash. Though we're thinking of all doing coordinating black and yellow puff n' slash eventually.
Fun aside, people HAVE already loaded their rattan with rebar.
The first occurrence was a guy who lost his sword at Pennsic, and grabbed another from the loaner / unclaimed lost pile. The balance was WAY different, and un taping it revealed the rebar.
The other incident was a small house using such swords, and spears capped with steel pipe caps. They got RUN our of Pennsic. LITERALLY run out the front gate by an angry mob.
Sounds like the Tuchux would do something like that.
Nah, wasn't the Chucks.
One fellow who I'll only call "Lou" had a greatsword where the handle was tapped and filled with lead. It gave it REALLY interesting balance, and it was NASTY quick on snap cuts. He used it for years, and it survived his house burning down, until he finally broke it over a Duke's head.
Quote from: Telarus on October 01, 2009, 01:25:41 AM
The only reason the swordfight group here in Portland escapes that type of attention is because we don't train in group tactics.
This reminds me of an SCA story from the Left Coast here. The Canadian Mounties were training in anti-protest tactics here a few years ago, and one of the officers had some friends in the SCA. So they invited out a handful of the heavy fighters out to some remote intersection to help train the anti-riot squad. The SCA blokes show up with their training gear to a group of mounties in full head-gear and body armor with batons that outnumbered them at least 2-1.
Most of the SCA guys towered over the crowd of mounties, and the mounties started looking nervous as they got out helms and rattan swords, and started strapping on their own armor. Then the heavy fighters started getting out their shields when the officer in charge walks up to them. He tells them that they can't use their shields because the exercise wants to recreate a "street disturbance". He wants to stay "realistic" and while he can OK the armor for protective purposes, and the rattan swords can stand in for bats or planks of wood, he can't rationalize a 'random crowd' with ready access to shields. The heavy fighters start to nod when the line of mounties starts unloading full-body plexiglass shields.
Realizing what they're now up against, some of the SCA dudes want to go home. The biggest of them interjects and says, No, I've got something to even the odds.
Both groups of fighters watch as he strolls over to the intersection, grabs the Stop sign with both hands and with 3 violent diagonal jerks, rips it out of the ground along with a good chunk of the cement anchor.
He swings it a few times, then walks over to the Mountie commander, the stop-sign pole-arm nicely counterweighted by the chunk of cement and says Is this Real enough for you?
Well, the SCA got to use their shields that day...... and I'm sure it was much more fun for everyone involved.
I've heard similar stories! Mostly riot police drilling with / agaisnt SCA heavy fighters for developing better line - holding and unit tactics.
Also: those cops should have realized: train to fight a mob with shields and tactics, and a mob WITHOUT them will look like child's play. After you're used to taking out shieldmen, everyone else just looks like a big open target.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 30, 2009, 10:37:56 PM
...you should put real steel in your SCA weapon. Just kind of wrap some rebar in padding, instead of rittan. Don't tell anyone until it's too late.
On this note, my rattan and armor is holding up decently, and my fencing kit is OK, so I'm getting VERY tempted to drop cash for a long sword for live steel cut + thrust play. The kind of piece that goes from practice to deadly after half an hour with a bastard file.