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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on October 01, 2009, 04:37:00 PM

Title: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on October 01, 2009, 04:37:00 PM
Anyone got Google Wave invites? I'm shamelessly whoring myself out for one.
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Triple Zero on October 01, 2009, 06:41:19 PM
ssssh you're infected, don't sneeze so much.
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Captain Utopia on October 01, 2009, 10:10:59 PM
I have four left, PM me your email (anyone) - can be disposable I think, as you can attach it to your google profile later.
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on October 01, 2009, 10:37:16 PM
Whooooo!!!

Thanks fp!
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Captain Utopia on October 01, 2009, 11:39:49 PM
No problem, you're in. Not sure how long it'll take - "Invitations will not be sent immediately. We have a lot of stamps to lick." - but I'd guess over the next 24 hours if it's anything like their previous signups.

Three left if anyone else is interested.
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Eater of Clowns on October 02, 2009, 01:48:39 AM
I believe I PMed you, but I also might have timed out at work so I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Captain Utopia on October 02, 2009, 02:40:07 AM
Got it - 2 left - rollup - don't waste your $10 buying one on ebay.

It's not _that_ exciting yet, but it'll be neat to get a discordian influence in there early.
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Eater of Clowns on October 02, 2009, 02:50:39 AM
Thanks, fp.  I'll be checking it out over the next few days.
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Golden Applesauce on October 02, 2009, 06:50:54 PM
Wtf is Google Wave?
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on October 02, 2009, 07:01:09 PM
Quote from: GA on October 02, 2009, 06:50:54 PM
Wtf is Google Wave?

New collaboration tool which has the features of email, IM, Document Management, group chat, multimedia sharing etc all in one.

For example, I start a 'wave' (message) and invite Fictionpuss. Fictionpuss is offline so it works like email.

Fictionpuss comes online and replies to my message. I'm online so this works like Instant Messaging. We converse for awhile and decide to add GA. Now GA can see the Wave (and play it back to watch how the conversation developed). Replies can be nested inside waves, so one wave may have multiple threads within that wave. We can drag/drop multimedia content, or if the initial wave was the latest Discordian essay, the replies could be edits and markup which are visible to people already subscribed to the wave.

Then we can publish the Wave to a webpage and people on the webpage can also interact with the Wave, which we can see in our Wave client... all of this in real time (to the point that the default setting sends character by character in real time).

Of course, this is just the start. I think we'll see Wave replace many of the forms of communication we use currently. It can behave like email, IM, Forum, Wiki, Web publisher all at once.... and its all open source because they're hoping developers will look at it as a platform for new applications.

Oh and it can interface to your Android, iPhone, Blackberry etc in real time as well.
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: LMNO on October 02, 2009, 07:03:18 PM
If they can do this with music editing software, I will have to find a way to make love to the internet.
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on October 02, 2009, 07:12:37 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 02, 2009, 07:03:18 PM
If they can do this with music editing software, I will have to find a way to make love to the internet.

The key bit here is that the architecture is completely open sourced... So making it work for music editing is just a matter of a team writing the code.
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: LMNO on October 02, 2009, 07:21:22 PM
Time to start nudging Audacity in that direction, I suppose.



Holy shit, this could break things wide open.
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on October 02, 2009, 07:47:59 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 02, 2009, 07:21:22 PM
Time to start nudging Audacity in that direction, I suppose.



Holy shit, this could break things wide open.

I agree... I think this could be the next major evolution in communication on the web. There are some really cool videos at Google http://wave.google.com/help/wave/about.html#video The main video is the 90 minute presentation with crazy demo stuff. The other two are a little more direct/technical...

At the very least watch the 90 minute video and skip around through the demo to see what they already have in place. :)
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: LMNO on October 02, 2009, 07:56:09 PM
I gotta be honest, there is no way in hell I am going to watch a 90 minute internet video.


Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on October 02, 2009, 08:22:50 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 02, 2009, 07:56:09 PM
I gotta be honest, there is no way in hell I am going to watch a 90 minute internet video.




I didn't either... I skipped through the boring bits and watched the 20 minutes or so where they have multiple laptops engaged in communication with the Wave system... I think it starts around 15 minutes in or so.


EDIT:
This is from their site:
   
What is a wave?

A wave is equal parts conversation and document. People can communicate and work together with richly formatted text, photos, videos, maps, and more.

A wave is shared. Any participant can reply anywhere in the message, edit the content and add participants at any point in the process. Then playback lets anyone rewind the wave to see who said what and when.

A wave is live. With live transmission as you type, participants on a wave can have faster conversations, see edits and interact with extensions in real-time.
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Captain Utopia on October 02, 2009, 08:35:45 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 02, 2009, 07:21:22 PM
Time to start nudging Audacity in that direction, I suppose.



Holy shit, this could break things wide open.
It's still quite a way from being that. They seem to be addressing infrastructure/scalability first. The UI is neat, but it is a basic container. Of course, being able to implement any interface on top of the infrastructure is where it starts getting interesting. And the "data" in a wave can be sent to "robots" on other wave servers - robots are just programs that can read/write data contained in waves - e.g. you could have a "reverb" robot, and if that sucked up too much of your CPU quota in the cloud, then you could run it on your own computer.
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on October 02, 2009, 08:43:20 PM
Quote from: fictionpuss on October 02, 2009, 08:35:45 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 02, 2009, 07:21:22 PM
Time to start nudging Audacity in that direction, I suppose.



Holy shit, this could break things wide open.
It's still quite a way from being that. They seem to be addressing infrastructure/scalability first. The UI is neat, but it is a basic container. Of course, being able to implement any interface on top of the infrastructure is where it starts getting interesting. And the "data" in a wave can be sent to "robots" on other wave servers - robots are just programs that can read/write data contained in waves - e.g. you could have a "reverb" robot, and if that sucked up too much of your CPU quota in the cloud, then you could run it on your own computer.


Muahahahahaha!
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: fomenter on October 02, 2009, 08:47:22 PM
i avoided my-space face-book and twitter... and feel i missed nothing

in the video at around 23 min he said it will make flame wars more effective,   why did it take him so long to get to the feature that really sells it...
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Faust on October 02, 2009, 09:05:55 PM
Hey, I'm looking for an invite here.
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Captain Utopia on October 02, 2009, 09:50:04 PM
FYI, I'm now out of invites.
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Golden Applesauce on October 03, 2009, 12:16:56 AM
So if this is the next big social thing... are there limited numbers of invites or something?  Seems like that would kinda kill the concept dead.
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: fomenter on October 03, 2009, 12:24:22 AM
limited invites to play with the beta i would guess...
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Captain Utopia on October 03, 2009, 01:01:25 AM
My guess is that they're staggering the rollout to ensure that they have enough resources. They did the same thing with gmail back in the day, you got 5 invites.. then a while later you'd get some more. They're scaling by 3-4 orders of magnitude, so it's not a trivial undertaking.
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Eater of Clowns on October 03, 2009, 01:11:03 AM
How long is it supposed to take for the invites to come through.  You sent mine yesterday and it isn't there yet.
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Captain Utopia on October 03, 2009, 01:54:13 AM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on October 03, 2009, 01:11:03 AM
How long is it supposed to take for the invites to come through.  You sent mine yesterday and it isn't there yet.
I wish I knew - a quick search around and other people are asking this too... the first "nomination" I sent out yesterday around ~4pm hasn't been sent yet.

All they say is:
Quote
Invite others to Google Wave


Google Wave is more fun when you have others to wave with, so please nominate people you would like to add. Keep in mind that this is a preview so it could be a bit rocky at times.


Invitations will not be sent immediately. We have a lot of stamps to lick.


Happy waving!
So I guess anything else is speculation at this point :-/

They are right though - it is a trifle dull by myself!
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Rococo Modem Basilisk on October 04, 2009, 01:35:16 AM
Presumably those invited will get invites to send out themselves?

I'd like one, if any of you can send.
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Lies on October 04, 2009, 01:41:13 PM
Quote from: Enki v. 2.0 on October 04, 2009, 01:35:16 AM
Presumably those invited will get invites to send out themselves?

I'd like one, if any of you can send.
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: bds on October 04, 2009, 05:33:20 PM
Ditto, if there are any going?
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Dalek on November 15, 2009, 05:00:59 PM
Can someone send me an invite. My email is trolled@abv.bg
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Rococo Modem Basilisk on November 15, 2009, 05:06:56 PM
Sent. Expect it to take a while.
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Dalek on November 15, 2009, 05:15:43 PM
Thank you!
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Soylent Green on November 15, 2009, 09:37:04 PM
Can someone send me an invite?

genericthrowawayemail@gmail.com
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Faust on November 15, 2009, 10:24:37 PM
So a fun thing that someone suggested to me recently was going to the With:public furry waves and deleting all the posts in it.
They can see you do it but they cant revert it :)
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Faust on November 15, 2009, 10:28:47 PM
ugh, I just did a with:public search on porn and half the active waves are 4chan lolicon threads.
How do I go about getting people arrested/banned off google for this?
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Rococo Modem Basilisk on November 16, 2009, 12:34:56 AM
Quote from: Soylent Green on November 15, 2009, 09:37:04 PM
Can someone send me an invite?

genericthrowawayemail@gmail.com

Sent.

Quote from: Faust
ugh, I just did a with:public search on porn and half the active waves are 4chan lolicon threads.
How do I go about getting people arrested/banned off google for this?
Lolicon drawings don't count as CP except in Australia and (iirc) Germany.

Or so I hear.
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Faust on November 16, 2009, 01:43:32 AM
Quote from: Enki v. 2.0 on November 16, 2009, 12:34:56 AM
Quote from: Soylent Green on November 15, 2009, 09:37:04 PM
Can someone send me an invite?

genericthrowawayemail@gmail.com

Sent.

Quote from: Faust
ugh, I just did a with:public search on porn and half the active waves are 4chan lolicon threads.
How do I go about getting people arrested/banned off google for this?
Lolicon drawings don't count as CP except in Australia and (iirc) Germany.

Or so I hear.
Nope fully illegal in ireland and maybe the UK.
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Soylent Green on November 16, 2009, 02:37:16 AM
Quote from: Enki v. 2.0 on November 16, 2009, 12:34:56 AM
Quote from: Soylent Green on November 15, 2009, 09:37:04 PM
Can someone send me an invite?

genericthrowawayemail@gmail.com

Sent.

Quote from: Faust
ugh, I just did a with:public search on porn and half the active waves are 4chan lolicon threads.
How do I go about getting people arrested/banned off google for this?
Lolicon drawings don't count as CP except in Australia and (iirc) Germany.

Or so I hear.

Thank you.

And I think I read that the UK was passing some law banning "offensive images" or something like that.
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: bugmenоt on November 16, 2009, 10:58:20 PM
Google wave ... another step towards un-privacy. now they want us to save all your documents on their hard disks.
The technology sounds pretty useful. And if it's open source, one could run it on own servers so google wouldn't get any data.

For each search you do on Google, Google knows more about what you don't know.

Im in a love-hate relationship with Google.
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Verbal Mike on November 16, 2009, 11:29:07 PM
Bürger, I wouldn't worry so much. To Google, you are just a machine for producing valuable statistics, and as these things go they are relatively well-aware of the fact that you're kind of doing them a favor supplying them with raw data so they tend not to do stuff that will piss you off and make you pull the plug on the stats. They need us. I wouldn't use Google products for anything seriously dangerous/illegal, but they can have the rest of my life if they keep working for it so good.

I got an invite to Wave but can't quite get my head around what it's good for. Time will tell, I guess.
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Iason Ouabache on November 17, 2009, 01:54:16 AM
Quote from: Bürger on November 16, 2009, 10:58:20 PM
Google wave ... another step towards un-privacy. now they want us to save all your documents on their hard disks.
The technology sounds pretty useful. And if it's open source, one could run it on own servers so google wouldn't get any data.

For each search you do on Google, Google knows more about what you don't know.

Im in a love-hate relationship with Google.
You might find this useful then: https://www.google.com/dashboard/
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Elder Iptuous on November 25, 2009, 01:16:31 AM
Thanks for the invite, Enki!  :D
So, are there any PD wave going on?
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Rococo Modem Basilisk on November 25, 2009, 07:18:26 AM
There's one that seems to have been dead for the past few weeks. We have also brought over some percentage of the BIP.
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on November 25, 2009, 03:20:38 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on November 25, 2009, 01:16:31 AM
Thanks for the invite, Enki!  :D
So, are there any PD wave going on?

What's your ID, we'll make sure you're added :)
Title: Re: Google Wave Invites?
Post by: Elder Iptuous on November 25, 2009, 05:42:08 PM
Quote from: Doctor Rat Bastard on November 25, 2009, 03:20:38 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on November 25, 2009, 01:16:31 AM
Thanks for the invite, Enki!  :D
So, are there any PD wave going on?

What's your ID, we'll make sure you're added :)


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