http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091015/ap_on_re_us/us_interracial_rebuff
QuoteInterracial couple denied marriage license in La.
NEW ORLEANS – A Louisiana justice of the peace said he refused to issue a marriage license to an interracial couple out of concern for any children the couple might have. Keith Bardwell, justice of the peace in Tangipahoa Parish, says it is his experience that most interracial marriages do not last long.
"I'm not a racist. I just don't believe in mixing the races that way," Bardwell told the Associated Press on Thursday. "I have piles and piles of black friends. They come to my home, I marry them, they use my bathroom. I treat them just like everyone else."
Bardwell said he asks everyone who calls about marriage if they are a mixed race couple. If they are, he does not marry them, he said.
Bardwell said he has discussed the topic with blacks and whites, along with witnessing some interracial marriages. He came to the conclusion that most of black society does not readily accept offspring of such relationships, and neither does white society, he said.
"There is a problem with both groups accepting a child from such a marriage," Bardwell said. "I think those children suffer and I won't help put them through it."
If he did an interracial marriage for one couple, he must do the same for all, he said.
"I try to treat everyone equally," he said.
Bardwell estimates that he has refused to marry about four couples during his career, all in the past 2 1/2 years.
Beth Humphrey, 30, and 32-year-old Terence McKay, both of Hammond, say they will consult the U.S. Justice Department about filing a discrimination complaint.
Humphrey, an account manager for a marketing firm, said she and McKay, a welder, just returned to Louisiana. She plans to enroll in the University of New Orleans to pursue a masters degree in minority politics.
"That was one thing that made this so unbelievable," she said. "It's not something you expect in this day and age."
Humphrey said she called Bardwell on Oct. 6 to inquire about getting a marriage license signed. She says Bardwell's wife told her that Bardwell will not sign marriage licenses for interracial couples. Bardwell suggested the couple go to another justice of the peace in the parish who agreed to marry them.
"We are looking forward to having children," Humphrey said. "And all our friends and co-workers have been very supportive. Except for this, we're typical happy newlyweds."
"It is really astonishing and disappointing to see this come up in 2009," said American Civil Liberties Union of Louisiana attorney Katie Schwartzmann. "The Supreme Court ruled as far back as 1963 that the government cannot tell people who they can and cannot marry."
The ACLU sent a letter to the Louisiana Judiciary Committee, which oversees the state justices of the peace, asking them to investigate Bardwell and recommending "the most severe sanctions available, because such blatant bigotry poses a substantial threat of serious harm to the administration of justice."
"He knew he was breaking the law, but continued to do it," Schwartzmann said.
According to the clerk of court's office, application for a marriage license must be made three days before the ceremony because there is a 72-hour waiting period. The applicants are asked if they have previously been married. If so, they must show how the marriage ended, such as divorce.
Other than that, all they need is a birth certificate and Social Security card.
The license fee is $35, and the license must be signed by a Louisiana minister, justice of the peace or judge. The original is returned to the clerk's office.
"I've been a justice of the peace for 34 years and I don't think I've mistreated anybody," Bardwell said. "I've made some mistakes, but you have too. I didn't tell this couple they couldn't get married. I just told them I wouldn't do it.
:lulz:
And he's so polite about it! :lulz:
Wow... just wow.
Quote from: Kai on October 16, 2009, 12:01:28 AM
And he's so polite about it! :lulz:
Of course he's polite -- he's a southern gentleman.
I like how he points to the fact that he allows blacks to use his bathroom as an example of how non-racist he is.
Quote from: Pastor-Mullah Zappathruster on October 16, 2009, 12:17:52 AM
Quote from: Kai on October 16, 2009, 12:01:28 AM
And he's so polite about it! :lulz:
Of course he's polite -- he's a southern gentleman.
I like how he points to the fact that he allows blacks to use his bathroom as an example of how non-racist he is.
:lulz: :horrormirth: :lulz: :horrormirth: :horrormirth: :horrormirth: :horrormirth: :horrormirth: :horrormirth: :lulz:
What decade does he live in? I remember when I was a kid being self-conscious because it was all over the TV how hard it is for mixed-race kids. Then I looked around my neighborhood and realized that most of the kids were mixed... and it hasn't bothered me since, what, 1979?
That reminds me, I have an essay about that somewhere. I FIND IT.
Damnit! Why is everyone faster than me?
I was gonna post this with the title
"Prop 8 was the start of a slippery slope"
And something clever about how if you let them think they can control marriage for one group they think they can control marriage for everyone.
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on October 16, 2009, 01:33:14 AM
Damnit! Why is everyone faster than me?
I was gonna post this with the title
"Prop 8 was the start of a slippery slope"
And something clever about how if you let them think they can control marriage for one group they think they can control marriage for everyone.
None of this is anything new. Just sayin.
I can't wait until they bring back real Biblical marriage. I want some concubines, dammit!
Black magic happens. I wonder how Verthaine's doing. Haven't seen him since he got married to the white side. Still can't believe I called him a nig. :horrormirth:
I read this earlier, on the news sites and I was completely un-surprised. It's the South and these people will make up their laws as they go in many cases. You can't fight them unless you get someone else with some clout to fight for you. I live near Talladega and have seen outstanding lawyers turn down cases because the Talladega county courts play the gane by their rules. This case seems to be the same kind of thing, but since it's racially motivated, is willing to get involved.
Did you lot hear about this?
Quote from: Associated Press
JACKSON, Miss. — Everyone at Wesson Attendance Center knows 17-year-old Ceara Sturgis is gay because she's never tried to hide it.
But when Sturgis — an honor student, trumpet player and goalie on the school's soccer team — wanted her senior photograph in a tuxedo used in the 2009-10 yearbook, school officials balked. Traditionally, female students dress in drapes and males wear tuxedos.
Now, the American Civil Liberties Union of Mississippi has gotten involved, issuing a demand letter to Principal Ronald Greer to publish the picture of Sturgis in the tuxedo. The ACLU says it's giving the school until Oct. 23 to respond before pursuing court action, said Kristy L. Bennett, the ACLU's legal director.
A secretary for Greer referred questions to Copiah County Schools Superintendent Rickey Clopton, who declined to comment on Thursday.
Sturgis said she should get to decide how she looks in the senior photo.
"I feel like I'm not important, that the school is dismissing who I am as a gay student and that they don't even care about me. All I want is to be able to be me, and to be included in the yearbook," Sturgis said in a statement.
Veronica Rodriguez, 47, said school officials are trying to force her daughter — who doesn't even own a dress — to appear more feminine.
"The tux is who she is. She wears boys' clothes. She's athletic. She's gay. She's not feminine," said Rodriguez during an interview Thursday at the ACLU office.
Rodriguez said Sturgis took her pictures over the summer instead of with the other students last year, but she used the same studio.
In August, Rodriguez said she received a letter from the school stating that only boys could wear tuxedos. Rodriguez said she met with assistant Superintendent Ronald Holloway who told her he didn't see regulations about the issue in the student handbook.
But when she talked with Greer, she said he told her it was his "conviction" that Sturgis wouldn't appear in the yearbook in a tuxedo.
Bennett said the teenager's constitutional rights are being violated. Bennett said similar cases, including same-sex prom couples and girls wearing tuxedos to proms, have been successfully challenged in court in other states. ACLU officials said they were unaware of any other constitutional disputes involving gay teens at Mississippi schools.
"You can't discriminate against somebody because they're not masculine enough or because they're not feminine enough. She's making an expression of her sexual orientation through this picture and that invokes First Amendment protection," Bennett said.
There's no state policy that deals with the yearbook photo issue, said state Department of Education spokesman Pete Smith.
The deadline for the photo to be accepted for the yearbook was Sept. 30. But advertisements for the publication are still being taken so Sturgis has time for her photo to be included, Bennett said.
Sturgis lives with her grandparents in Wesson, a town of about 1,700 founded during the Civil War in southwest Mississippi. The town's Web site said residents "pride ourselves on our quiet way of life."
Ugh, damn it. All right Eris, I'll quit being evil if you will. Except that I still might mutilate the Greek Pantheon a little more. God of War is still boring. We need a Discordian video game. And the Christian school might become like the X-men while I'm at it, whether they want to evolve or not. Oh, and I think I'll still destroy the world. Now it all goes black.
Quote from: Nigel on October 16, 2009, 12:55:47 AM
What decade does he live in? I remember when I was a kid being self-conscious because it was all over the TV how hard it is for mixed-race kids. Then I looked around my neighborhood and realized that most of the kids were mixed... and it hasn't bothered me since, what, 1979?
Yeah, but just try getting a job in politics office. There's no way the American people would ever elect a mixed-race man to a high office. :wink:
Quote from: Pope Benny on October 16, 2009, 03:58:30 AM
Black magic happens. I wonder how Verthaine's doing. Haven't seen him since he got married to the white side. Still can't believe I called him a nig. :horrormirth:
wut
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 16, 2009, 04:22:29 AM
Quote from: Pope Benny on October 16, 2009, 03:58:30 AM
Black magic happens. I wonder how Verthaine's doing. Haven't seen him since he got married to the white side. Still can't believe I called him a nig. :horrormirth:
wut
Nevermind. That was years ago. I don't know why I'm dragging that shit up now. Remember Verthaine? Me neither.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 16, 2009, 04:22:29 AM
Quote from: Pope Benny on October 16, 2009, 03:58:30 AM
Black magic happens. I wonder how Verthaine's doing. Haven't seen him since he got married to the white side. Still can't believe I called him a nig. :horrormirth:
wut
I uh have alluded to those events elsewhere. Where they happened. (eb&g) Yeah.
So this shit in the OP, fucked up 6 ways to Sunday, but knowing how it is over there as I do (I've argued my own KIN to the ground about the difference between blacks and whites)...yeah...it's near-impossible to fight some of that prejudice. I won't even get into the sort of shit I went through marrying an Afghan in my own family. That was...painful, to say the least.
Quote from: Pope Benny on October 16, 2009, 04:28:00 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 16, 2009, 04:22:29 AM
Quote from: Pope Benny on October 16, 2009, 03:58:30 AM
Black magic happens. I wonder how Verthaine's doing. Haven't seen him since he got married to the white side. Still can't believe I called him a nig. :horrormirth:
wut
Nevermind. That was years ago. I don't know why I'm dragging that shit up now. Remember Verthaine? Me neither.
Sleeping dogs, Ben. Let them lie. It was a shitty event. Nuff said.
Quote from: Pope Benny on October 16, 2009, 04:28:00 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 16, 2009, 04:22:29 AM
Quote from: Pope Benny on October 16, 2009, 03:58:30 AM
Black magic happens. I wonder how Verthaine's doing. Haven't seen him since he got married to the white side. Still can't believe I called him a nig. :horrormirth:
wut
Nevermind. That was years ago. I don't know why I'm dragging that shit up now. Remember Verthaine? Me neither.
Yeah, I remember Verthaine.
So do I. He made the Erisians cool.
I admired Verthaine, but something kinda wicked, gross, and cowardly came through me that time I threw up a racial slur at him in his 'getting married to a white woman and fuck anyone who calls me a nigger' thread. Don't know what possessed me. That was last time I've ever seen him on the nets, even though I searched a few times out of curiosity. I left this place for a long time after that too. I hate getting on peoples' nerves who don't deserve it. I am a nerd sometimes.
Welp, probably about time for another sabbatical for me. Same time next year. Golden state coast. I've known Discordia for about ten years now, and sometimes the joke wears thin. I hate discord. Farewell.
Different racism:
(http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/5089/tammybruce300x227.jpg)
Yes, that is Tammy Bruce (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tammy_Bruce) making a not very subtle reference to Barack Obama being a "coon".
http://tammybruce.com/2009/10/breaking-nobel-committee-announces-another-peace-prize-winner.html Leave some love in the comments, if they're still open. I know the seething masses of Sadly, No! have already visited, but adding your own 2 cents can't hurt.
Quote from: Cain on October 16, 2009, 03:44:09 PM
Different racism:
(http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/5089/tammybruce300x227.jpg)
Yes, that is Tammy Bruce (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tammy_Bruce) making a not very subtle reference to Barack Obama being a "coon".
http://tammybruce.com/2009/10/breaking-nobel-committee-announces-another-peace-prize-winner.html Leave some love in the comments, if they're still open. I know the seething masses of Sadly, No! have already visited, but adding your own 2 cents can't hurt.
:kingmeh:>"What, this isn't racist! It's just a statement that the nobel peace prize is as easily procured as a cracker jack prize! Just because it's a racoon, and that was used as an epithet for black people for decades, doesn't mean that it's "racist"..."
Oh wait none of that made any sense whatsoever.
Quote from: Cain on October 16, 2009, 03:44:09 PM
Different racism:
(http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/5089/tammybruce300x227.jpg)
Yes, that is Tammy Bruce (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tammy_Bruce) making a not very subtle reference to Barack Obama being a "coon".
http://tammybruce.com/2009/10/breaking-nobel-committee-announces-another-peace-prize-winner.html Leave some love in the comments, if they're still open. I know the seething masses of Sadly, No! have already visited, but adding your own 2 cents can't hurt.
Hahaha...what a fucknozzle.
hxxp://www.chimpout.com
More to the point, hxxp://www.chimpout.com/forum/index.php
I'd be careful, though. Something tells me their admins may not be as conscientious as we are about PI.
While I'm here
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/10/15/investigation/index.html
QuoteCAIR is a non-profit organization of American citizens who are Muslim and their "mission is to enhance understanding of Islam, encourage dialogue, protect civil liberties, empower American Muslims, and build coalitions that promote justice and mutual understanding." They stand accused of plotting to influence members of Congress and trying to help interns obtain positions in Congress in order to advance their political agenda. That's consistent with what virtually every political advocacy group in the nation does; it's normally called activism and democracy. But because, in this case, it's a group of Muslims who are doing this, these House Republicans are depicting it as some sort of nefarious espionage plot against the U.S. that demands a criminal investigation.
I know, Islam isn't a race. But the vast majority of its practitioners are non-white, and I suspect that is more than a factor in this scapegoating.
The Family doesn't want another sect encroaching on their territory.
Quote from: Cain on October 16, 2009, 07:48:25 PM
While I'm here
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/10/15/investigation/index.html
QuoteCAIR is a non-profit organization of American citizens who are Muslim and their "mission is to enhance understanding of Islam, encourage dialogue, protect civil liberties, empower American Muslims, and build coalitions that promote justice and mutual understanding." They stand accused of plotting to influence members of Congress and trying to help interns obtain positions in Congress in order to advance their political agenda. That's consistent with what virtually every political advocacy group in the nation does; it's normally called activism and democracy. But because, in this case, it's a group of Muslims who are doing this, these House Republicans are depicting it as some sort of nefarious espionage plot against the U.S. that demands a criminal investigation.
I know, Islam isn't a race. But the vast majority of its practitioners are non-white, and I suspect that is more than a factor in this scapegoating.
It reminds me more of the red scare stuff in the 50s, where clearly anybody with the wrong ideology was a spy for the enemy.
well according to my family every culture in the motherfucking world wants to be WHITE and has been trying imitate white people since the dawn of man! (exhibit a: geishas, and wanting to stay out of the sun as to not tan the skin)
Therefore it MUST be true!!!
:x :asplode:
Quote from: Sparkley Pink Shit on October 17, 2009, 01:13:07 AM
well according to my family every culture in the motherfucking world wants to be WHITE and has been trying imitate white people since the dawn of man! (exhibit a: geishas, and wanting to stay out of the sun as to not tan the skin)
Therefore it MUST be true!!!
:x :asplode:
Wow.
I love this country
Quote from: Kai on October 16, 2009, 02:58:55 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on October 16, 2009, 01:33:14 AM
Damnit! Why is everyone faster than me?
I was gonna post this with the title
"Prop 8 was the start of a slippery slope"
And something clever about how if you let them think they can control marriage for one group they think they can control marriage for everyone.
None of this is anything new. Just sayin.
I know, but it is a fun LO5. And one that I think should spread more widely.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on October 16, 2009, 09:23:28 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 16, 2009, 07:48:25 PM
While I'm here
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/10/15/investigation/index.html
QuoteCAIR is a non-profit organization of American citizens who are Muslim and their "mission is to enhance understanding of Islam, encourage dialogue, protect civil liberties, empower American Muslims, and build coalitions that promote justice and mutual understanding." They stand accused of plotting to influence members of Congress and trying to help interns obtain positions in Congress in order to advance their political agenda. That's consistent with what virtually every political advocacy group in the nation does; it's normally called activism and democracy. But because, in this case, it's a group of Muslims who are doing this, these House Republicans are depicting it as some sort of nefarious espionage plot against the U.S. that demands a criminal investigation.
I know, Islam isn't a race. But the vast majority of its practitioners are non-white, and I suspect that is more than a factor in this scapegoating.
It reminds me more of the red scare stuff in the 50s, where clearly anybody with the wrong ideology was a spy for the enemy.
This.
And I think it is safe to tell someone who says the thing about the Japanese, that the Geisha existed long before whites vistied them, and the paint covered all but the back of the neck. The reason for that small patch to be bare was that it was supposed to be a very arousing and erogenous zone. They have always preferred to be fair because to maintain a fair complexion meant that they were not commoners. Only the commoners worked the fields and got tanned while the aristocracy could remain out of the sun. It was a sign of distinction which was also found in Europe, so it is more of an aristocratic thing than a white thing.
All that said, I realize that it means absofragginlutely nothing to someone who wishes to believe otherwise. but its almost 0400 here and it was the first cognitive thought I have had since the last fire emergency we had.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 15, 2009, 11:56:17 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091015/ap_on_re_us/us_interracial_rebuff
QuoteInterracial couple denied marriage license in La.
NEW ORLEANS – A Louisiana justice of the peace said he refused to issue a marriage license to an interracial couple out of concern for any children the couple might have. Keith Bardwell, justice of the peace in Tangipahoa Parish, says it is his experience that most interracial marriages do not last long.
"I'm not a racist. I just don't believe in mixing the races that way," Bardwell told the Associated Press on Thursday. "I have piles and piles of black friends. They come to my home, I marry them, they use my bathroom. I treat them just like everyone else."
Bardwell said he asks everyone who calls about marriage if they are a mixed race couple. If they are, he does not marry them, he said.
Bardwell said he has discussed the topic with blacks and whites, along with witnessing some interracial marriages. He came to the conclusion that most of black society does not readily accept offspring of such relationships, and neither does white society, he said.
"There is a problem with both groups accepting a child from such a marriage," Bardwell said. "I think those children suffer and I won't help put them through it."
If he did an interracial marriage for one couple, he must do the same for all, he said.
"I try to treat everyone equally," he said.
Bardwell estimates that he has refused to marry about four couples during his career, all in the past 2 1/2 years.
Beth Humphrey, 30, and 32-year-old Terence McKay, both of Hammond, say they will consult the U.S. Justice Department about filing a discrimination complaint.
Humphrey, an account manager for a marketing firm, said she and McKay, a welder, just returned to Louisiana. She plans to enroll in the University of New Orleans to pursue a masters degree in minority politics.
"That was one thing that made this so unbelievable," she said. "It's not something you expect in this day and age."
Humphrey said she called Bardwell on Oct. 6 to inquire about getting a marriage license signed. She says Bardwell's wife told her that Bardwell will not sign marriage licenses for interracial couples. Bardwell suggested the couple go to another justice of the peace in the parish who agreed to marry them.
"We are looking forward to having children," Humphrey said. "And all our friends and co-workers have been very supportive. Except for this, we're typical happy newlyweds."
"It is really astonishing and disappointing to see this come up in 2009," said American Civil Liberties Union of Louisiana attorney Katie Schwartzmann. "The Supreme Court ruled as far back as 1963 that the government cannot tell people who they can and cannot marry."
The ACLU sent a letter to the Louisiana Judiciary Committee, which oversees the state justices of the peace, asking them to investigate Bardwell and recommending "the most severe sanctions available, because such blatant bigotry poses a substantial threat of serious harm to the administration of justice."
"He knew he was breaking the law, but continued to do it," Schwartzmann said.
According to the clerk of court's office, application for a marriage license must be made three days before the ceremony because there is a 72-hour waiting period. The applicants are asked if they have previously been married. If so, they must show how the marriage ended, such as divorce.
Other than that, all they need is a birth certificate and Social Security card.
The license fee is $35, and the license must be signed by a Louisiana minister, justice of the peace or judge. The original is returned to the clerk's office.
"I've been a justice of the peace for 34 years and I don't think I've mistreated anybody," Bardwell said. "I've made some mistakes, but you have too. I didn't tell this couple they couldn't get married. I just told them I wouldn't do it.
:lulz:
:sad:
What I said here:
Quote from: Slanket the Destroyer on October 16, 2009, 10:19:55 PM
Give it time man, the civil war just ended and people in the south are just going to have to adju... wait... oh, it's 2009?
Huh, that's pretty fucked.
Also, can we get a panel of scientists to explain to this guy that marriage is not part of the ability to procreate?
McCarthy isn't dead, he just took a vacation. And now hes BACK, BABY! :lulz:
I hope we're going back in time
I wanna see some witch burnings
(http://yafh.com/image/3b9f4cf5-burn-the-witch-burn-witch-kill-monty-python-demotivational-poster-1223816026.jpg)
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on October 17, 2009, 11:44:25 PM
I hope we're going back in time
I wanna see some witch burnings
ONCE AGAIN THE BURNING TIEMS!
NEVAR AGAIN THE BURNING TIEMS!! :horrormirth:
HOW ABOUT THE BURNING ITEMS? I HAVE SOME ITEMS TO BURN.
Quote from: Sparkley Pink Shit on October 18, 2009, 06:02:01 PM
NEVAR AGAIN THE BURNING TIEMS!! :horrormirth:
Oh, no, you have NO idea. The Pagans are now obsessed with the idea that "the next burning times" is upon us, in the form of Richard Dawkins.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 18, 2009, 06:55:28 PM
Quote from: Sparkley Pink Shit on October 18, 2009, 06:02:01 PM
NEVAR AGAIN THE BURNING TIEMS!! :horrormirth:
Oh, no, you have NO idea. The Pagans are now obsessed with the idea that "the next burning times" is upon us, in the form of Richard Dawkins.
They are far too optimistic. The Burning Times would be preferable compared to what's actually happening: the Lulzing Times.
We shall mock them on the seas and oceans,
we shall mock them with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our sense of humor, whatever the cost may be,
we shall mock them on the beaches,
we shall mock them on the landing grounds,
we shall mock them in the fields and in the streets,
we shall mock them in the hills;
we shall never give it a rest.
QuoteWe shall mock them on the seas and oceans,
we shall mock them with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our sense of humor, whatever the cost may be,
we shall mock them on the beaches,
we shall mock them on the landing grounds,
we shall mock them in the fields and in the streets,
we shall mock them in the hills;
we shall never give it a rest.
Definite lollercaust material.
I can't even begin to tell you how many kids at my childrens' school are mixed-race. Or how many kids I see with a white parent and a black parent when I'm out and about. I mean, one of my friend's kids said "Mom, why is Nigel black, and EFO is black, but MO and LO are white?" and she said "Because their mom is black and their dad is white, so some of the kids turned out black and some white" and they said "Oh, cool, I get it". The lesson being, NOBODY FUCKING CARES unless some asshole makes a big deal about it.
Fuck, look at kindergarteners. They are so fascinated by how people are different colors, the same way they are fascinated by EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD. Tell them that people come in different colors, and their reaction is "Oh". And then they want to go draw pictures and play, same as they always do. And they draw their friends in different colors, and they tell you how their friends are different, just like they would with anything. Kids don't fucking care. The world is awesome to them, and the fact that their friend Sarah is dark brown and their friend Kurt is light brown is just another thing they can do with color crayons.
Quote from: Nigel on October 19, 2009, 02:59:01 AM
Kids don't fucking care.
Until they're taught otherwise.
BREAKING: Due to recent remarks, a Louisiana Justice of the Peace has called for children to only be allowed crayons colored to their specific race. "The problem is that the crayons won't be accepted by each race. I've seen it before, and I'm only looking out for the kids' interests," he told interviewers.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 19, 2009, 03:15:20 AM
Quote from: Nigel on October 19, 2009, 02:59:01 AM
Kids don't fucking care.
Until they're taught otherwise.
Already said that:
Quote from: Nigel on October 19, 2009, 02:59:01 AM
I can't even begin to tell you how many kids at my childrens' school are mixed-race. Or how many kids I see with a white parent and a black parent when I'm out and about. I mean, one of my friend's kids said "Mom, why is Nigel black, and EFO is black, but MO and LO are white?" and she said "Because their mom is black and their dad is white, so some of the kids turned out black and some white" and they said "Oh, cool, I get it". The lesson being, NOBODY FUCKING CARES unless some asshole makes a big deal about it.
Fuck, look at kindergarteners. They are so fascinated by how people are different colors, the same way they are fascinated by EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD. Tell them that people come in different colors, and their reaction is "Oh". And then they want to go draw pictures and play, same as they always do. And they draw their friends in different colors, and they tell you how their friends are different, just like they would with anything. Kids don't fucking care. The world is awesome to them, and the fact that their friend Sarah is dark brown and their friend Kurt is light brown is just another thing they can do with color crayons.
Quote"I'm not a racist. I just don't believe in mixing the races that way," Bardwell told the Associated Press on Thursday. "I have piles and piles of black friends. They come to my home, I marry them, they use my bathroom. I treat them just like everyone else."
I like the fact that he tries to prove he's enlightened by saying he lets blacks use his washroom
:lulz:
Good point someone else made first:
This guy refuses to do his job and marry a biracial because of his "conscience", everyone is up in arms.
Pharmacists refuses to do his job and hand out emergency contraception because of his "conscience", and people look the other way. Hell, Bush was even trying to give them further legal protection.
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 19, 2009, 05:23:14 PM
Good point someone else made first:
This guy refuses to do his job and marry a biracial because of his "conscience", everyone is up in arms.
Pharmacists refuses to do his job and hand out emergency contraception because of his "conscience", and people look the other way. Hell, Bush was even trying to give them further legal protection.
If your conscience doesn't allow you to perform your job, you can find a new job.
I did.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 19, 2009, 06:21:32 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 19, 2009, 05:23:14 PM
Good point someone else made first:
This guy refuses to do his job and marry a biracial because of his "conscience", everyone is up in arms.
Pharmacists refuses to do his job and hand out emergency contraception because of his "conscience", and people look the other way. Hell, Bush was even trying to give them further legal protection.
If your conscience doesn't allow you to perform your job, you can find a new job.
I did.
This is the correct Job Finding Motorcycle.
It wasn't their consciences on the part of the Pharm assholes, it was their RELIGION. Not that it's any better or worse, but the judge is just a fucktard who hasn't realized you don't qualify how you're a racist and then immediate define it afterward. The Pharmacists were pandering to a bullshit party line that church politics of the extreme Right have drummed up over the last 2 decades, fuck their faces.
Quote from: Jenne on October 19, 2009, 07:13:05 PM
It wasn't their consciences on the part of the Pharm assholes, it was their RELIGION. Not that it's any better or worse, but the judge is just a fucktard who hasn't realized you don't qualify how you're a racist and then immediate define it afterward. The Pharmacists were pandering to a bullshit party line that church politics of the extreme Right have drummed up over the last 2 decades, fuck their faces.
Wrong:
Quote"I need the pill for endometreosis."
"Slut."
Almost right:
QuoteFill this prescription, please."
"No, I cannot contribute to your loose morals."
"Fill it, or I'll rip off your face and use it as a hat."
Right:
Quote"Fill this prescription, please."
"No, I cannot contribute to your loose morals."
"Okay, I'll just tell your manager you tried to grope me. Have a nice day!"
:lulz: There was a case that went to court where a woman with the script from her doc was told by the Pharm guy that Jesus was upset at all the babies she was wasting or some such shit. Makes me want to be unreasonable and say no Xtn can ever work in the medical field, EVER, when they pull this shit. That, and the Jesus-freak docs who won't IVF unmarried gay women and the ones who won't give out contraception unless you're married. That shit pisses me off no end.
If you don't want to be put in a position of choosing between your religiosity and your job, then do another job, where religiosity won't harm or impinge on another person's health. You don't GET to have that job, in the perfect world in my head, if you can't figure that shit out.
STOP DISCRIMINATING AGAINST CHRISTIANS!
LEAVE JESUS ALONE!
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I'm just imagining if Muslim shopkeepers refused to hand out bacon to their customers, or sell them alcohol, because Mohammed said it was bad for their souls.
OOOH the howling you'd hear from the belching Bible belt.
Quote from: Jenne on October 19, 2009, 10:19:17 PM
That, and the Jesus-freak docs who won't IVF unmarried gay women and the ones who won't give out contraception unless you're married.
I believe that a man and woman should be married before they have sex and have children. For that reason I'm going to make sure that people who aren't married are going to be more likely to have children by not giving them contracrptives.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 18, 2009, 06:55:28 PM
Quote from: Sparkley Pink Shit on October 18, 2009, 06:02:01 PM
NEVAR AGAIN THE BURNING TIEMS!! :horrormirth:
Oh, no, you have NO idea. The Pagans are now obsessed with the idea that "the next burning times" is upon us, in the form of Richard Dawkins.
:lulz: This is why I don't associate with other payguns. I can't get past the fluffy insanity. :lulz:
Quote from: A Pesky Nonvoting Screeching on October 20, 2009, 12:41:09 AM
Quote from: Jenne on October 19, 2009, 10:19:17 PM
That, and the Jesus-freak docs who won't IVF unmarried gay women and the ones who won't give out contraception unless you're married.
I believe that a man and woman should be married before they have sex and have children. For that reason I'm going to make sure that people who aren't married are going to be more likely to have children by not giving them contracrptives.
No, but you see --- if they are denied contraceptives then they will choose not to have sex. The only reason people have sex outside of marriage is because we allow them to have contraceptives.
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Quote from: A Pesky Nonvoting Screeching on October 20, 2009, 12:41:09 AM
Quote from: Jenne on October 19, 2009, 10:19:17 PM
That, and the Jesus-freak docs who won't IVF unmarried gay women and the ones who won't give out contraception unless you're married.
I believe that a man and woman should be married before they have sex and have children. For that reason I'm going to make sure that people who aren't married are going to be more likely to have children by not giving them contracrptives.
No, but you see --- if they are denied contraceptives then they will choose not to have sex. The only reason people have sex outside of marriage is because we allow them to have contraceptives.
Yep. And remember, allowing abortions is why there are single teen mothers. Liberalism is a curse.
Quote from: Cain on October 19, 2009, 10:23:45 PM
STOP DISCRIMINATING AGAINST CHRISTIANS!
LEAVE JESUS ALONE!
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blurring of the butt in the medieval drawing ...
:facepalm:
ONLY. IN. FUCKING. AMERICA.
Racism, Hate Speech, Intolerance...when people stop judging each other by their religion or the color of their skin we might actually manage to accomplish something other than war and killing.
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Wednesday, October 21, 2009 Associated Press
PHILADELPHIA — Amid tight security and a large turnout of protesters, Dutch right-wing lawmaker Geert Wilders told an assembly of Temple University students that Europe and America must fight an ongoing "stealth jihad" that threatens democracy and free speech.
"Where Islam sets roots, freedom dies," Geert Wilders told the students during his 30-minute address organized by a new student group called Temple University Purpose and funded by the California-based David Horowitz Freedom Center, a foundation that promotes conservative scholarship.
His remarks were met by a mixture of applause and boos, and occasionally gasps — particularly when he stated that "our Western culture is far better than the Islamic culture and we should defend it."
He decried as a "disgrace" a resolution co-sponsored by the U.S. and Egypt, and backed by the U.N. Human Rights Council earlier this month, deploring attacks on religions while insisting that freedom of expression remains a basic right. Wilders also criticized President Barack Obama for his efforts to extend a hand to the Islamic world, saying that such appeasement marks "the beginning of the end."
If the spread of Islam continues unabated in the Western world, "you might at the end of the day lose your Constitution," he told the assembly. "Wake up, defend your freedom."
He also touched on common themes in his speeches, including calling for an end to Muslim immigration and referring to the Muslim holy book, the Quran, as "an evil book" that promotes violence and intolerance.
A question-and-answer session was cut short after the tone of the event began to turn nasty, when some in the crowd of several hundred students began shouting jeers. Wilders' security detail quickly ushered him from the room.
"In order to improve our understanding of others, we need to learn," said Alvaro Watson of Purpose, the student group. "We can't fight for something if we only know one side."
Before his remarks at Temple, a public university serving about 34,000 students, Wilders showed his 15-minute anti-Islam film, "Fitna," which juxtaposes passages from the suras, or chapters, of the Quran with images of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, beheadings, shootings and speeches from clerics advocating violence against non-Muslims.
"I think it's completely wrong that someone who promotes racism and intolerance should be given a platform at this university," said Temple student Josh Rosenthal. "It's hate speech disguised as free speech."
Another student, Joseph Rodrigues, said that being able to voice unpopular opinions is a freedom not to be taken lightly. "I might not like what he said, but I think it's important that he be allowed to say it," he said.
Temple officials issued a statement saying the university "is a community of scholars in which freedom of inquiry and freedom of expression are valued."
"We respect the right of our student organizations to invite people who express a wide variety of views and ideas," the school said in a statement.
British officials once banned Wilders from visiting for fear it would spark violence. He successfully sued the government and visited Friday.
Wilders is scheduled to speak at Columbia University in New York on Wednesday.
Quote from: Halfbaked1 on October 21, 2009, 06:10:50 AM
Racism, Hate Speech, Intolerance...when people stop judging each other by their religion or the color of their skin we might actually manage to accomplish something other than war and killing.
Yeah. Probably not, though.
Quote from: Brotep on October 21, 2009, 06:37:32 AM
Quote from: Halfbaked1 on October 21, 2009, 06:10:50 AM
Racism, Hate Speech, Intolerance...when people stop judging each other by their religion or the color of their skin we might actually manage to accomplish something other than war and killing.
Yeah. Probably not, though.
Oh yeah, I know that. But the tiny optimist I keep strapped in a far corner of my mind needed to have a word.
Quote from: Halfbaked1 on October 21, 2009, 10:17:52 AM
Quote from: Brotep on October 21, 2009, 06:37:32 AM
Quote from: Halfbaked1 on October 21, 2009, 06:10:50 AM
Racism, Hate Speech, Intolerance...when people stop judging each other by their religion or the color of their skin we might actually manage to accomplish something other than war and killing.
Yeah. Probably not, though.
Oh yeah, I know that. But the tiny optimist I keep strapped in a far corner of my mind needed to have a word.
Then they'd just kill people for money.
Or territory. Or sex. Or control. Or social status.
Monkeys will be monkeys.
Quote from: LMNO on October 21, 2009, 04:07:59 PM
Or territory. Or sex. Or control. Or social status.
Monkeys will be monkeys.
Race and religion are just an excuse for the above.
Pretty much.
Quote from: Halfbaked1 on October 21, 2009, 10:17:52 AM
Quote from: Brotep on October 21, 2009, 06:37:32 AM
Quote from: Halfbaked1 on October 21, 2009, 06:10:50 AM
Racism, Hate Speech, Intolerance...when people stop judging each other by their religion or the color of their skin we might actually manage to accomplish something other than war and killing.
Yeah. Probably not, though.
Oh yeah, I know that. But the tiny optimist I keep strapped in a far corner of my mind needed to have a word.
Damnedest things, aren't they? Not people, but those little optimists in the corners. Most of the time I can't hear mine over the screaming, though.
Quote from: Kai on October 21, 2009, 04:11:39 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 21, 2009, 04:07:59 PM
Or territory. Or sex. Or control. Or social status.
Monkeys will be monkeys.
Race and religion are just an excuse for the above.
I disagree... Race and Religion are the context for the actions, the tribe identifiers that determine who the above actions will be applied to. Your second circuit isn't an excuse ;-)
Racists should be forced to take DNA tests....
:lulz:
Oh boy will they get some surprises
Quote from: LMNO on October 21, 2009, 04:07:59 PM
Or territory. Or sex. Or control. Or social status.
Monkeys will be monkeys.
I agree with this message
"FLINGING FECES, BATMAN
I THINK YOU ARE ON TO SOMETHING"
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Quote from: Corvidia on October 21, 2009, 07:45:16 PM
Pretty much.
Quote from: Halfbaked1 on October 21, 2009, 10:17:52 AM
Quote from: Brotep on October 21, 2009, 06:37:32 AM
Quote from: Halfbaked1 on October 21, 2009, 06:10:50 AM
Racism, Hate Speech, Intolerance...when people stop judging each other by their religion or the color of their skin we might actually manage to accomplish something other than war and killing.
Yeah. Probably not, though.
Oh yeah, I know that. But the tiny optimist I keep strapped in a far corner of my mind needed to have a word.
Damnedest things, aren't they? Not people, but those little optimists in the corners. Most of the time I can't hear mine over the screaming, though.
Optimism is a disease.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 22, 2009, 03:42:39 AM
Quote from: Corvidia on October 21, 2009, 07:45:16 PM
Pretty much.
Quote from: Halfbaked1 on October 21, 2009, 10:17:52 AM
Quote from: Brotep on October 21, 2009, 06:37:32 AM
Quote from: Halfbaked1 on October 21, 2009, 06:10:50 AM
Racism, Hate Speech, Intolerance...when people stop judging each other by their religion or the color of their skin we might actually manage to accomplish something other than war and killing.
Yeah. Probably not, though.
Oh yeah, I know that. But the tiny optimist I keep strapped in a far corner of my mind needed to have a word.
Damnedest things, aren't they? Not people, but those little optimists in the corners. Most of the time I can't hear mine over the screaming, though.
Optimism is a disease.
Optimism convinced me to believe Obama would really make things better. Realism rounded up the other monkeys and beat the shit out of him for it.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on October 22, 2009, 06:22:09 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 22, 2009, 03:42:39 AM
Quote from: Corvidia on October 21, 2009, 07:45:16 PM
Pretty much.
Quote from: Halfbaked1 on October 21, 2009, 10:17:52 AM
Quote from: Brotep on October 21, 2009, 06:37:32 AM
Quote from: Halfbaked1 on October 21, 2009, 06:10:50 AM
Racism, Hate Speech, Intolerance...when people stop judging each other by their religion or the color of their skin we might actually manage to accomplish something other than war and killing.
Yeah. Probably not, though.
Oh yeah, I know that. But the tiny optimist I keep strapped in a far corner of my mind needed to have a word.
Damnedest things, aren't they? Not people, but those little optimists in the corners. Most of the time I can't hear mine over the screaming, though.
Optimism is a disease.
Optimism convinced me to believe Obama would really make things better. Realism rounded up the other monkeys and beat the shit out of him for it.
Obama convinced me to believe that optimism would really make things better. Monkeys rounded up the other realists, and beat the shit out of them for it.