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Principia Discordia => Literate Chaotic => Topic started by: the last yatto on October 19, 2009, 11:56:26 PM

Title: book club: the enticing madness of metamind
Post by: the last yatto on October 19, 2009, 11:56:26 PM
http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/the-enticing-madness-of-metamind/2465236
paperback: ~$20
download: free


class starts: Nov. 1
after that updates on Fridays
intermittens break with super mario challenge
with guided questions by yours truely (this will be my third time reading this one)

Title: Re: book club: the enticing madness of metamind
Post by: Rococo Modem Basilisk on October 20, 2009, 01:09:28 AM
I'm in.

But I might not read it.
Title: Re: book club: the enticing madness of metamind
Post by: the last yatto on October 20, 2009, 09:55:24 AM
Quote from: Yatto on July 09, 2009, 08:28:15 PM:fnord:

jonathan dillon book, tells a story for a lack of a better words
a illumantius trilogy for the next generation of discordians,

the book references early a list of 8 other books. for those who want to go a a faster pace
i suggest reading these and comment how they might or might not effect the storyline.

1- 'Rules of the Game' by Neil Strauss,
2- (http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8159/48628db69d7ee54193n.th.jpg) (http://img10.imageshack.us/i/48628db69d7ee54193n.jpg/)
3- 'Where the Buffalo Roam' by Hunter S. Thompson
4- 'Book IV' from Allister Crowley.
5- 'Ethics for a New Millennium,' by Dalai Lama,
6- 'The Foundation' by Isaac Asimov
7- 'The Holographic Universe' Michael Talbot
8- 'Prometheus Rising' by Robert Anton Wilson.
Title: Re: book club: the enticing madness of metamind
Post by: Cramulus on October 20, 2009, 03:47:24 PM
so... can you tell us about this book? Is it fiction? Nonfiction? what makes you suggest it?
Title: Re: book club: the enticing madness of metamind
Post by: the last yatto on October 22, 2009, 11:08:51 PM
It appeals to me since metamind reminds me a bit of HC
& a reminder of whats possible in a world of what ifs.
its true in some sense false in some sense and meaningless in some sense... so anti-fiction?
but i believe it to be a work of dreams after not hearing of any last stand coverups


also was the first book i read by an author, i knew on a personal level


so in these here online book club, after the first two i noticed  its a bit harder to just talk about a book.
so in this sense i picked this one because I can talk around the book.

the 8 sub books will be at a normal every other weeks and appeal to different people here.
but the main book will be based on THE collective groups' efforts.
ie we wont start a chapter until at least half of us  are there
bored and ready to move on

no pressure to read = more reading and talking?


eta: fix engrish a bit
Title: Re: book club: the enticing madness of metamind
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 22, 2009, 11:11:03 PM
wut
Title: Re: book club: the enticing madness of metamind
Post by: Rococo Modem Basilisk on October 23, 2009, 01:24:46 AM
Sounds good for now. If half the group decides to stop reading altogether without telling you, that 'rule' should probably be modified.
Title: Re: book club: the enticing madness of metamind
Post by: on October 23, 2009, 01:29:07 AM
Off topic, but I read an article in the Fortean Times talking about the possibility of Bin Laden being heavily influenced by the Foundation books.
I'll dig it up later and transcribe/post it for you guys. (in a separate thread)
Title: Re: book club: the enticing madness of metamind
Post by: the last yatto on October 23, 2009, 01:36:02 AM
hey if its a book in the 8 this threads fine :D
Title: Re: book club: the enticing madness of metamind
Post by: the last yatto on October 23, 2009, 01:38:37 AM
metamind spoiler  :lulz:

QuoteUsing the law of mass action, it can predict the future, but only on a large scale; it is error-prone on a small scale. It works on the principle that the behaviour of a mass of people is predictable if the quantity of this mass is very large (equal to the population of the galaxy, which has a population of quadrillions of humans, inhabiting millions of star systems). The larger the number, the more predictable is the future.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_series
Title: Re: book club: the enticing madness of metamind
Post by: on October 23, 2009, 02:20:37 AM
Quote from: Yatto on October 23, 2009, 01:38:37 AM
metamind spoiler  :lulz:

QuoteUsing the law of mass action, it can predict the future, but only on a large scale; it is error-prone on a small scale. It works on the principle that the behaviour of a mass of people is predictable if the quantity of this mass is very large (equal to the population of the galaxy, which has a population of quadrillions of humans, inhabiting millions of star systems). The larger the number, the more predictable is the future.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_series

I'm glad to see the wiki article makes reference to this, it may not be necessary to actually transcribe the article, but I'll give it a re-read and see if it contributes anything specifically. Suffice to say, beyond the simple comparison of names (al queda meaning 'the base' or foundation), elements of the plot of the foundation series are somewhat analagous as well. I remember that the article also drew a connection between the name, and the Dune series (Usul, the base of the pillar), but Foundation is a bit more of a solid fit. Also, its very likely that Bin Laden had read both books.
Title: Re: book club: the enticing madness of metamind
Post by: the last yatto on October 23, 2009, 02:22:27 AM
can we call him by his american name, Tim Osman please?
Title: Re: book club: the enticing madness of metamind
Post by: the last yatto on November 02, 2009, 10:55:21 AM
please have chapter one read by friday...

class dismissed
Title: Re: book club: the enticing madness of metamind
Post by: Rococo Modem Basilisk on November 06, 2009, 09:29:11 PM
I'm about halfway through the book and have yet to get to chapter two. I think it lacks chapter numbers.

I have noticed (potentially accidental) numerological significance with page numbers, though:
Quill joins on 11
Quill agrees to partake of illumination-a-la-shroom on 33

Namedropping Crowley (as well as the fact that there are page breaks on these pages) bolsters the idea that they may be intentional.


Is it just me, or does the author use Metamind and Mastermind interchangably? Mastermind is a Mack thing -- new age MarketingManagementMeeting crap.
Title: Re: book club: the enticing madness of metamind
Post by: Triple Zero on November 06, 2009, 09:44:54 PM
the term "Mastermind group" is also used in the Art of Memetics, btw.
Title: Re: book club: the enticing madness of metamind
Post by: Rococo Modem Basilisk on November 06, 2009, 10:17:24 PM
Part III starts on page 93, by internal numbering (pdf page count is different).