Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Or Kill Me => Topic started by: Richter on October 21, 2009, 03:19:10 PM

Title: Improve Yourselves So You Stop Making Me Sick: Possessiveness
Post by: Richter on October 21, 2009, 03:19:10 PM
OK, sit by the fire with Richter for a bit.
Nice, isn't it?  Warm, dry, and pretty to look at when you decide you're sick of meeting my dead stare. 
Anyways, I wanted to have a quick word with you about your use of English language.  You're getting quite good at it, you can articulate ideas, and I can mostly understand what you're on about.  There's one thing that still bugging me though, your over – use of the possessive.
Sure, for your personal belongings, in cases where you need to denote that they are yours, it's fine.  You keep adding it into places where it's unnecessary though, chiming in that you OWN something, or that it's YOURS.  Why are you doing this?  Not to make derogatory assumptions, but I can't help but think it is symptom of some deeper insecurity.

Not sure of your grip on things?  (Maybe you should hold tighter.)

I'm not about to get all hippy – ish and point out that we can't really own anything.  (To be honest though, things in life are like beers, we can only ever really rent them.)

What about YOUR work?
YOUR time?
YOUR relationship with YOUR God at YOUR church?

It all starts to sound a bit silly to me.

Know what's really YOURS?  Only YOURS and no one else's, beyond any perversity of dominance or doubt?  The ideas in your head distilled from other people's ideas, or developed yourself, and your will to enact them.  What else is worth having?  What else can you be sure of having without them?

May you be rich.
Title: Re: Improve Yourselves So You Stop Making Me Sick: Possessiveness
Post by: LMNO on October 21, 2009, 03:29:45 PM
I'm impressed by the impact of the proactive way you take ownership of the thinkspace.
Title: Re: Improve Yourselves So You Stop Making Me Sick: Possessiveness
Post by: Richter on October 21, 2009, 03:34:32 PM
I'm impressed at the use you make of ironic counterpoint.

Have I told you how much I hate you?  :lulz:
Title: Re: Improve Yourselves So You Stop Making Me Sick: Possessiveness
Post by: LMNO on October 21, 2009, 03:42:42 PM
 :kiss:
Title: Re: Improve Yourselves So You Stop Making Me Sick: Possessiveness
Post by: Cramulus on October 21, 2009, 03:42:51 PM
:mittens:, richter

Hegel says that humans just want to see themselves reflected in their environment.

I mean, a beautiful painting is better if it's hanging on your wall, right? Then this beauty is part of your self.


it's an addictive trend.


related: http://pastebin.com/f51b06381
Title: Re: Improve Yourselves So You Stop Making Me Sick: Possessiveness
Post by: Richter on October 21, 2009, 09:01:02 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 21, 2009, 03:42:51 PM
:mittens:, richter

Hegel says that humans just want to see themselves reflected in their environment.

I mean, a beautiful painting is better if it's hanging on your wall, right? Then this beauty is part of your self.


it's an addictive trend.


related: http://pastebin.com/f51b06381

That's a good point in the overal line of thinking to highlight.  Eschewing ALL posession kind of spirals into anhedonia or self induced poverty.  this can be OK, if you're like a monk and can use it as a tool for personal development, but really sucks in most other situations.

Near as I can figure possession starts being useful where the absence of it would be a hinderance to further development.  (Without shelter, utilities, clothes, etc, I start putting a LOT more time into compensating for their absence than I do into developing myself and helping develop things and people I like.

Posessions STOP being useful at the point where having them becomes purely gratification.  (In the spirit that SLACK is more a matter of self actualiztion and VERY differnt from Hedonism / Gluttony.)  Aptly demonstrated in your link, from "Siddhartha" I'm guessing?

I'm kind of tending towards the idea of "Do nothing which ONLY gratifies yourself." 

Title: Re: Improve Yourselves So You Stop Making Me Sick: Possessiveness
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 21, 2009, 09:43:23 PM
Everything, everywhere, belongs to me.

My interbutts.

My City.

My goddamn road (Bluehairs, take heed!).

My mountains (hikers, feel free to get lost and eaten by bears.  Never liked ya anyway).

My office.

My deathray.

Title: Re: Improve Yourselves So You Stop Making Me Sick: Possessiveness
Post by: Richter on October 22, 2009, 01:11:30 PM
You only get to take it with you if you let us use the city and the mountain for your viking funeral barge.
Title: Re: Improve Yourselves So You Stop Making Me Sick: Possessiveness
Post by: Golden Applesauce on October 23, 2009, 03:09:33 AM
Remember: public property is your property.
Title: Re: Improve Yourselves So You Stop Making Me Sick: Possessiveness
Post by: Cramulus on October 23, 2009, 03:12:37 AM
Quote from: GA on October 23, 2009, 03:09:33 AM
Remember: public property is your property.

:potd:

hahah somebody toss that in the meme bomb hopper
Title: Re: Improve Yourselves So You Stop Making Me Sick: Possessiveness
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 23, 2009, 04:56:17 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 23, 2009, 03:12:37 AM
Quote from: GA on October 23, 2009, 03:09:33 AM
Remember: public property is your property.

:potd:

hahah somebody toss that in the meme bomb hopper

Ho ho!  We're all going to jail!
Title: Re: Improve Yourselves So You Stop Making Me Sick: Possessiveness
Post by: Richter on October 23, 2009, 05:12:35 PM
They'll likely offer us employment before we see any time though.
Title: Re: Improve Yourselves So You Stop Making Me Sick: Possessiveness
Post by: Doktor Howl on September 30, 2010, 06:42:42 PM
Bump.

Richter, I like this.
Title: Re: Improve Yourselves So You Stop Making Me Sick: Possessiveness
Post by: Adios on September 30, 2010, 06:52:22 PM
So do I. Good bump Dok.
Title: Re: Improve Yourselves So You Stop Making Me Sick: Possessiveness
Post by: Dimocritus on September 30, 2010, 11:10:45 PM
Quote from: Henny Youngman on September 30, 2010, 06:52:22 PM
So do I. Good bump Dok.

second'd

Title: Re: Improve Yourselves So You Stop Making Me Sick: Possessiveness
Post by: Reginald Ret on September 30, 2010, 11:22:07 PM
To stop using possesives in language and thought is a cool idea, ima try it now.
This couldn't possibly go horribly wrong.
Title: Re: Improve Yourselves So You Stop Making Me Sick: Possessiveness
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 01, 2010, 05:48:28 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 21, 2009, 09:43:23 PM
Everything, everywhere, belongs to me.

My interbutts.

My City.

My goddamn road (Bluehairs, take heed!).

My mountains (hikers, feel free to get lost and eaten by bears.  Never liked ya anyway).

My office.

My deathray.



Oh my fucking god

I just realized

ALL OUR BASE ARE BELONG TO ROGER!  :horrormirth:
Title: Re: Improve Yourselves So You Stop Making Me Sick: Possessiveness
Post by: Payne on October 01, 2010, 08:43:01 AM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:48:28 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 21, 2009, 09:43:23 PM
Everything, everywhere, belongs to me.

My interbutts.

My City.

My goddamn road (Bluehairs, take heed!).

My mountains (hikers, feel free to get lost and eaten by bears.  Never liked ya anyway).

My office.

My deathray.



Oh my fucking god

I just realized

ALL OUR BASE WAS BELONG TO ROGER!   :hammer:

Fixt. He's dead now and can't hurt us anymore Nigel. We're FREE!

If  you're still suffering Post-TGRR Trauma though, I hear Doktor Howl has some pills for that.