Time to round up the sheeple's and give 'em all their nice shots. I'll being paying extra special attention to what's happening in the backround once this gets into full swing.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091024/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_swine_flu
Spazz-Paranoid Conspiracy Nutjob
All that article says is that Obama wants to streamline the paperwork for people who are sick with swine flu to get faster treatment when they go to the hospital, instead of sitting around in the waiting room infecting everyone else.
It would be nice if they had enough vaccine for the people who want it. I'd have my kids vaccinated already, if it was available.
I think the whole H1N1 thing is a scam cooked up to make money for Pharma and whittle away a few more of our civil liberties. Declaring a "national emergency" is just the beginning.Mark my words-this will not end well. I just don't trust these greedy rat bastards one bit.
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Quote from: SpazztheCelestial on October 24, 2009, 07:10:33 PM
I think the whole H1N1 thing is a scam cooked up to make money for Pharma and whittle away a few more of our civil liberties. Declaring a "national emergency" is just the beginning.Mark my words-this will not end well. I just don't trust these greedy rat bastards one bit.
i like the way you think
Quote from: SpazztheCelestial on October 24, 2009, 07:10:33 PM
I think the whole H1N1 thing is a scam cooked up to make money for Pharma and whittle away a few more of our civil liberties. Declaring a "national emergency" is just the beginning.Mark my words-this will not end well. I just don't trust these greedy rat bastards one bit.
Deus Ex is my favourite game too.
anyone know any conspiracy theorems?
Quote from: rong on October 25, 2009, 10:27:50 AM
anyone know any conspiracy theorems?
I do know a few. Some are plausible.Many are beyond ridiculous.
I think that the persuit of self interest on the part of the wealthy and powerful,without regard for the consequences to the rest of us,fully explains most of the horrific bullshit that goes on in the world.
This thread should be in apple talk.
Spazz, this is a rant subforum, not a "links to things that piss us off" subforum.
Quote from: Kai on October 25, 2009, 12:37:05 PM
This thread should be in apple talk.
Spazz, this is a rant subforum, not a "links to things that piss us off" subforum.
There I go,peeing on the carpet again. Sorry.
Bad Spazz :oops:
i dunno, if there's anything being covered up, I'm pretty sure it is something completely different that will be drowned out by the screaming hordres of paranoid conspiracy nuts, fundies and whoever was yelling death panels before cause surely obama is trying to kill our children this time.
in the mean time while everybody is looking the other way a bunch of banks will clean out and slurp up the last bits of bailouts, or some far away country will be invaded to please the big corps and Xe/Blackwater or anything you name it.
and yeah they'll take more of your liberties away, like they ever stopped doing that.
but it won't be the vaccins.
who the fuck cares about the vaccins? i mean, you get a flu shot. boo hoo. big fucking deal.
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 25, 2009, 01:23:53 PM
who the fuck cares about the vaccins? i mean, you get a flu shot. boo hoo. big fucking deal.
http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2009/02/27/8560781.html
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 25, 2009, 01:23:53 PM
who the fuck cares about the vaccins? i mean, you get a flu shot. boo hoo. big fucking deal.
In addition, FUCK YOU my baby brother DIED from getting a fucking flu shot.
And WTF is a vaccin?
Quote from: SpazztheCelestial on October 25, 2009, 02:38:14 PM
And WTF is a vaccin?
My guess is that it's something similar to persuit.
Quote from: A Pesky Nonvoting Screeching on October 25, 2009, 03:08:49 PM
Quote from: SpazztheCelestial on October 25, 2009, 02:38:14 PM
And WTF is a vaccin?
My guess is that it's something similar to persuit.
A humiliated Spazz slinks away in disgrace, muttering...
"You got me there.Why oh WHY didn't I put gas in the fucking spell-checker?!"
H1N1 is not a made-up flu. It's not being spread so that the pharmaceutical companies can make big monies. Especially since it's only the government who's buying it here in the US, not the private medical sector. A BETTER conspiracy theory would be to say the government is spreading it intentionally to CONTROL the populace, in its never-ending pursuit of controlling health care entirely. Because it's the government who is releasing it to the clinics and hospitals, as well as giving out the guidelines on who is getting the vacc and who isn't at this point.
Seems I'll be getting it today, along with my kids, per my husband's suggestion since his clinic just got some from the county.
vaccine, sorry. in Dutch we write vaccin, I never noticed the difference before.
your baby brother really died because of a flu shot? sorry to hear that. i can imagine you're worried about mandatory flu shots then.
and that news article, what about it? except that it's related to bio research on strains of flu, what's it got to do with the topic? (also, did you check out the kind of paper Toronto Sun is?)
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 26, 2009, 01:49:27 PM
vaccine, sorry. in Dutch we write vaccin, I never noticed the difference before.
your baby brother really died because of a flu shot? sorry to hear that. i can imagine you're worried about mandatory flu shots then.
and that news article, what about it? except that it's related to bio research on strains of flu, what's it got to do with the topic? (also, did you check out the kind of paper Toronto Sun is?)
The article mentions that Baxter, a major manufacturer of vaccines used in the US, "accidentally" distributed material containing live avian flu virus to be included in the experimental phase of manufacturing some new vaccine. I find this disturbing. Here in the US, some hospitals and public health departments are already mandating H1N1 vaccination for health care workers,which I happen to be. There's a very good chance that any vaccine you receive will be made by Baxter, who, thanks to the PREP Act, is immune to litigation if one of their "experimental" H1N1 vaccines happens to kill or disable you. I find this disturbing as well. If these fucking idiots don't even know what's in their vaccine, then I should be able to sue them if it fucks me up.
No,I didn't research the Toronto Sun prior to posting the link. I Googled "Baxter bird flu accident" and snagged the first source that I found. I have since checked it out and the general consensus seems to be that it sucks a little more than Fox News-so my apologies for inflicting you with it.
No. My baby brother didn't die from getting a flu shot. That was a complete fabrication. He was crushed to death in our driveway by my coked-up asshat of a stepfather.
Ah, glad to hear he didn't die from a flu shot, then.
Vaccination threads are always good for a laugh. And by "laugh" I mean "a good way to make enemies for life with random strangers".
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Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 26, 2009, 10:04:59 PM
Vaccination threads are always good for a laugh. And by "laugh" I mean "a good way to make enemies for life with random strangers".
So it appears. I had no idea people were so fond of flu shots. I think I'll return to lurking now.
Quote from: SpazztheCelestial on October 27, 2009, 01:13:50 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 26, 2009, 10:04:59 PM
Vaccination threads are always good for a laugh. And by "laugh" I mean "a good way to make enemies for life with random strangers".
So it appears. I had no idea people were so fond of flu shots. I think I'll return to lurking now.
More like we've had some unpleasant run-ins with some very stupid people who also happened to believe that flu shots exist to hurt people.
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 26, 2009, 01:49:27 PM
vaccine, sorry. in Dutch we write vaccin, I never noticed the difference before.
So, not something similar to persuit at all.
Quote from: SpazztheCelestial on October 27, 2009, 01:13:50 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 26, 2009, 10:04:59 PM
Vaccination threads are always good for a laugh. And by "laugh" I mean "a good way to make enemies for life with random strangers".
So it appears. I had no idea people were so fond of flu shots. I think I'll return to lurking now.
Oh pish. You go away based on this thread? You got nuffin' when it came to argument. Fer chrissakes.
I heard there were many in the health profession that were against being made to get the vaccine. And I know why--it's the proliferation and the possibility of the added virulences. Since it's a virus that has few antibodies in the young and can, as any flu does, cripple and expire the old, there's an added fury to the fire in getting it "contained."
But the fact that it hasn't added the virulent strains yet, even though it's shown to be quickly proliferate, gives a lot of people hope that it won't, indeed, do so.
Nevertheless, the pain and suffering I watch my 9 year old go through when he gets one of the simpler viruses is enough to make me get double-vacc'd, along with my pediatrician husband and my other child, so that we can spare my immuno-compromised mate (he almost died of aplastic anemia 2 years ago), my asthmatic son and my other son and I will have a better chance of not being miserable.
You can't have lurked long if you think there are going to be those of us WITHOUT arguments of some reasoning on shit like this.
Quote from: Jenne on October 26, 2009, 01:16:28 PM
H1N1 is not a made-up flu. It's not being spread so that the pharmaceutical companies can make big monies. Especially since it's only the government who's buying it here in the US, not the private medical sector. A BETTER conspiracy theory would be to say the government is spreading it intentionally to CONTROL the populace, in its never-ending pursuit of controlling health care entirely. Because it's the government who is releasing it to the clinics and hospitals, as well as giving out the guidelines on who is getting the vacc and who isn't at this point.
Seems I'll be getting it today, along with my kids, per my husband's suggestion since his clinic just got some from the county.
H1N1 IS JUST A CONSPIRACY MEANT TO KEEP LIBERTARIANS DOWN!!!!
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on October 27, 2009, 02:57:21 AM
Quote from: Jenne on October 26, 2009, 01:16:28 PM
H1N1 is not a made-up flu. It's not being spread so that the pharmaceutical companies can make big monies. Especially since it's only the government who's buying it here in the US, not the private medical sector. A BETTER conspiracy theory would be to say the government is spreading it intentionally to CONTROL the populace, in its never-ending pursuit of controlling health care entirely. Because it's the government who is releasing it to the clinics and hospitals, as well as giving out the guidelines on who is getting the vacc and who isn't at this point.
Seems I'll be getting it today, along with my kids, per my husband's suggestion since his clinic just got some from the county.
H1N1 IS JUST A CONSPIRACY MEANT TO KEEP LIBERTARIANS DOWN!!!!
PERHAPS IT'S REALLY TEH LIBRARIANS. YUO KNOA HOW DANGEROUS IT IS TO READ!
DOWN WITH TEH PRINTED PAGES!
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 26, 2009, 01:49:27 PM
and that news article, what about it? except that it's related to bio research on strains of flu, what's it got to do with the topic? (also, did you check out the kind of paper Toronto Sun is?)
are you saying a newspaper that has to have bikini women in it to keep it's conservative readership's dwindling attention is not one of the best sources for news related to something to do about science?...
Personally, I like flu shots.
But then I was an asthmatic and the last time I caught the flu it took me over three weeks to recover to the point I could actually get out of bed and walk around without wanting to take a bucket-load of painkillers. Every time since, when I qualified for a jab I took it, and, surprise, I didn't lose the best part of a month to disease.
Now, I have doubts about H1N1 vaccine because
a) it hasn't been sufficiently tested for my liking
b) the rush on production is apparently causing mistakes at labs who are under pressure to produce as much as possible
c) in Germany at least, the vaccine most people is getting looks to be cheaper and riskier than the one more privileged individuals, such as those in government, are recieving, because of the presence of immunological adjuvants (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immunologic_adjuvant) used to lower the cost. Some medical experts suggest this is not suitable for young children or pregnant mothers, two target groups for vaccination, due to this.
That said, I still think getting a decent, working vaccine on those in critical services and the most at risk is necessary. It's just some of the companies who are doing it are, well, pharaceutical companies, and you know how they are by now...
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on October 27, 2009, 03:06:03 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 26, 2009, 01:49:27 PM
and that news article, what about it? except that it's related to bio research on strains of flu, what's it got to do with the topic? (also, did you check out the kind of paper Toronto Sun is?)
are you saying a newspaper that has to have bikini women in it to keep it's conservative readership's dwindling attention is not one of the best sources for news related to something to do about science?...
NO IM JUST HAPPY THAT HIS LITTLE BRO DIDNT GET RUN OVER BY A PIG SHOT EXPLOSIVE HELICOPTER
damn, I thought I made that clear ..
The nasal spray is a live virus--so anyone who gets it needs to not be immuno-compromised, already sick, or the more vulnerable part of the population. The shot is the dead virus, so it's safer.
I got it yesterday afternoon, and I felt a twinge in the arm late last night before going to bed, and that was it. The regular flu shot gave me a stiff, sore arm for at least a day and a half. With this one, I was sleeping on the actual side it was given last night. *shrug* But then, like I said elsewhere, I don't have reactions to flu shots really, just where the shot was given some residual soreness, and that's with EVERY shot I get.
Quote from: SpazztheCelestial on October 25, 2009, 02:38:14 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 25, 2009, 01:23:53 PM
who the fuck cares about the vaccins? i mean, you get a flu shot. boo hoo. big fucking deal.
In addition, FUCK YOU my baby brother DIED from getting a fucking flu shot.
And WTF is a vaccin?
And thousands more babies have died from getting the flu. Your baby brother probably was receiving the shot because he was high-risk for dying from the flu. What's your point?
Quote from: SpazztheCelestial on October 26, 2009, 04:17:16 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 26, 2009, 01:49:27 PM
vaccine, sorry. in Dutch we write vaccin, I never noticed the difference before.
your baby brother really died because of a flu shot? sorry to hear that. i can imagine you're worried about mandatory flu shots then.
and that news article, what about it? except that it's related to bio research on strains of flu, what's it got to do with the topic? (also, did you check out the kind of paper Toronto Sun is?)
The article mentions that Baxter, a major manufacturer of vaccines used in the US, "accidentally" distributed material containing live avian flu virus to be included in the experimental phase of manufacturing some new vaccine. I find this disturbing. Here in the US, some hospitals and public health departments are already mandating H1N1 vaccination for health care workers,which I happen to be. There's a very good chance that any vaccine you receive will be made by Baxter, who, thanks to the PREP Act, is immune to litigation if one of their "experimental" H1N1 vaccines happens to kill or disable you. I find this disturbing as well. If these fucking idiots don't even know what's in their vaccine, then I should be able to sue them if it fucks me up.
No,I didn't research the Toronto Sun prior to posting the link. I Googled "Baxter bird flu accident" and snagged the first source that I found. I have since checked it out and the general consensus seems to be that it sucks a little more than Fox News-so my apologies for inflicting you with it.
No. My baby brother didn't die from getting a flu shot. That was a complete fabrication. He was crushed to death in our driveway by my coked-up asshat of a stepfather.
Sooo... "material" containing the live vaccine accidentally went out in the packages for experimental manufacturing. And this is a threat to public health how? It's not like this material wouldn't have been (as it, indeed, was) discovered.
The military didn't have any service members vaccinated against H1N1, just the regular flu. Just FYI... Personally, I'm happy about it. I never caught the flu until they started shooting that crap up my nose.
Quote from: SpazztheCelestial on October 24, 2009, 07:10:33 PM
I think the whole H1N1 thing is a scam cooked up to make money for Pharma and whittle away a few more of our civil liberties. Declaring a "national emergency" is just the beginning.Mark my words-this will not end well. I just don't trust these greedy rat bastards one bit.
Well, Spazz was right. We beat the flu, but there's a tank on every street corner. :lulz:
Quote from: SpazztheCelestial on October 25, 2009, 02:38:14 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 25, 2009, 01:23:53 PM
who the fuck cares about the vaccins? i mean, you get a flu shot. boo hoo. big fucking deal.
In addition, FUCK YOU my baby brother DIED from getting a fucking flu shot.
And WTF is a vaccin?
Have stronger siblings.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 05, 2011, 05:49:52 PM
Quote from: SpazztheCelestial on October 25, 2009, 02:38:14 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 25, 2009, 01:23:53 PM
who the fuck cares about the vaccins? i mean, you get a flu shot. boo hoo. big fucking deal.
In addition, FUCK YOU my baby brother DIED from getting a fucking flu shot.
And WTF is a vaccin?
Have stronger siblings.
Is this what inspired the FUCK YOU my mom DIED from [insert here]?
no way, that phrase is older
Quote from: SpazztheCelestial on October 24, 2009, 06:43:27 PM
Time to round up the sheeple's and give 'em all their nice shots. I'll being paying extra special attention to what's happening in the backround once this gets into full swing.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091024/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_swine_flu
Spazz-Paranoid Conspiracy Nutjob
You know, I've always hated the word "sheeple".
in 09 i was vaccinated against the h1n1. just saying.
I wasn't, and neither was my monkey. Never got it either.
Quote from: Doktor Blight on February 05, 2011, 09:49:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 05, 2011, 05:49:52 PM
Quote from: SpazztheCelestial on October 25, 2009, 02:38:14 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 25, 2009, 01:23:53 PM
who the fuck cares about the vaccins? i mean, you get a flu shot. boo hoo. big fucking deal.
In addition, FUCK YOU my baby brother DIED from getting a fucking flu shot.
And WTF is a vaccin?
Have stronger siblings.
Is this what inspired the FUCK YOU my mom DIED from [insert here]?
No, it was a couple things. I remember one of them was Cram's parody of type one diabetes as an insulin addiction, which I raged against not knowing it was a parody. Suu also raged against something else in the same manner.