Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 26, 2009, 07:08:31 PM

Title: And Christians wonder
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 26, 2009, 07:08:31 PM
... why they are always being persecuted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iClHpepBY1I
Title: Re: And Christians wonder
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 26, 2009, 07:09:49 PM
Quote from: Nigel on October 26, 2009, 07:08:31 PM
... why they are always being persecuted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iClHpepBY1I

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Title: Re: And Christians wonder
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on October 26, 2009, 07:12:45 PM
"Jingle Cats sing What Child is this and Hava Nagila from the Jingle Cats Christmas DVD"

Clips of cats meowing, remixed into Christmas songs. :horrormirth:
Title: Re: And Christians wonder
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 26, 2009, 07:13:32 PM
Quote from: Cainad on October 26, 2009, 07:12:45 PM
"Jingle Cats sing What Child is this and Hava Nagila from the Jingle Cats Christmas DVD"

Clips of cats meowing, remixed into Christmas songs. :horrormirth:

:crankey:

Jihaad.  That is all.
Title: Re: And Christians wonder
Post by: Suu on October 26, 2009, 07:15:35 PM
I put it on and the roommate's cat is like....WTF?
Title: Re: And Christians wonder
Post by: Triple Zero on October 26, 2009, 09:05:48 PM
um okay, but what's it got to do with Christians?
Title: Re: And Christians wonder
Post by: Dimocritus on October 26, 2009, 09:11:01 PM
I agree. This is exactly why cats are prosecuted.

But really, this is about as Christian as "Bingo-Night."
Title: Re: And Christians wonder
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on October 26, 2009, 09:19:26 PM
Christians are responsible for Christmas. Therefore, they are directly responsible for everything related to Christmas, including awful abominations such as this.
Title: Re: And Christians wonder
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 26, 2009, 10:02:48 PM
Quote from: Cainad on October 26, 2009, 09:19:26 PM
Christians are responsible for Christmas. Therefore, they are directly responsible for everything related to Christmas, including awful abominations such as this.

How I dread the day after Thanksgiving.

:x
Title: Re: And Christians wonder
Post by: Rumckle on October 26, 2009, 10:39:45 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 26, 2009, 10:02:48 PM
Quote from: Cainad on October 26, 2009, 09:19:26 PM
Christians are responsible for Christmas. Therefore, they are directly responsible for everything related to Christmas, including awful abominations such as this.

How I dread the day after Thanksgiving.

:x

That is one of things you Americans have good, you're Christmas decorations don't go up until November. In Australia they start in October.
Title: Re: And Christians wonder
Post by: Suu on October 26, 2009, 10:50:40 PM
Quote from: Rumckle on October 26, 2009, 10:39:45 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 26, 2009, 10:02:48 PM
Quote from: Cainad on October 26, 2009, 09:19:26 PM
Christians are responsible for Christmas. Therefore, they are directly responsible for everything related to Christmas, including awful abominations such as this.

How I dread the day after Thanksgiving.

:x

That is one of things you Americans have good, you're Christmas decorations don't go up until the day after Halloween. In Australia they start in October.


Fixed.
Title: Re: And Christians wonder
Post by: Requia ☣ on October 26, 2009, 10:52:38 PM
Nah Christmas stuff goes up in October here now.  I pass out candy Santas at Halloween, well used to, nobody knocks on my door anymore.
Title: Re: And Christians wonder
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 26, 2009, 11:20:54 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 26, 2009, 09:05:48 PM
um okay, but what's it got to do with Christians?

Um

Christmas?

Also, "What Child is This" would be referring to Jesus, as do almost all Christmas carols, what it it being "Christmas" and all that.
Title: Re: And Christians wonder
Post by: Rumckle on October 26, 2009, 11:51:46 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on October 26, 2009, 10:52:38 PM
Nah Christmas stuff goes up in October here now.  I pass out candy Santas at Halloween, well used to, nobody knocks on my door anymore.

Ok then, no reason for me to move to the states anytime soon I guess.
Title: Re: And Christians wonder
Post by: Jenne on October 27, 2009, 02:36:27 AM
Xmas stuff can go up as early as SEPTEMBER here.  The craft stores can't WAIT for Labor Day, because they start pulling it all out.  Michael's had it for two rows behind the Halloween shit.  And now the Halloween shit's all but gone from everywhere.  I was in Target this weekend and their huge Hallowen section is being converted slowly but surely over the course of this week to Xmasland.

"Christmas in July" used to be a cliched joke when I was growing up.  Now it's a motherfucking reality.
Title: Re: And Christians wonder
Post by: Template on October 27, 2009, 03:48:21 AM
What's the difference between Christmas seasonal goods and a Yule log?

You'll wait until Yule to burn the Yule log.
Title: Re: And Christians wonder
Post by: Dysnomia on October 27, 2009, 04:50:51 AM
also yule is for payguns. 



That video is just....... :x
Title: Re: And Christians wonder
Post by: Halfbaked1 on October 27, 2009, 06:06:33 AM
When I bought my house I had like six relatives offering to give me some spare christmas lights and a fake tree to make our first Christmas easier.  I loved the looks I got when i informed them that I had no intention of bothering with a tree or all the bloody lights.  I mean, hell, who needs the increased electric bill and I sure as fuck was not gonna put up a buncha damn hand me down lights so I could burn down my newly purchased house.  But the real kicker was when I told em I didn't celebrate Christmas.  Yeah, giving old people coronarys is fun.
Title: Re: And Christians wonder
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 27, 2009, 06:11:44 AM
My Mormon family STILL doesn't get that I don't celebrate Christmas, even thought it's been 20 fucking years.
Title: Re: And Christians wonder
Post by: The Johnny on October 27, 2009, 06:27:39 AM

I love Xmas lights even if people have crappy reasons to put them up (even do i only like the electric blue ones)...

theres something appealing about those lights and i love fireworks too...

im sad how halloween seemingly is gonna turn into a one day thing, and how valentines day and xmas just keeps growing and growing and growing....
Title: Re: And Christians wonder
Post by: Triple Zero on October 27, 2009, 12:16:40 PM
Quote from: Nigel on October 26, 2009, 11:20:54 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 26, 2009, 09:05:48 PM
um okay, but what's it got to do with Christians?

Um

Christmas?

Also, "What Child is This" would be referring to Jesus, as do almost all Christmas carols, what it it being "Christmas" and all that.

Well, non-christians celebrate Christmas too (with the trees and the lights and santa claus and stuff), plus the bit that I recognized from the song was Hava Naquila, which is Jewish. (meaning I didnt knwo the other song)

What is Halloween? Pagans, right? If someone recorded something retarded to do with Halloween would you think "no wonder Pagans are persecuted"?

Maybe it's different over here, but someone who records a video with cats singing a mashup of christmas songs and a Hebrew folk song isn't automatically Christian in my eyes, and therefore doesn't cause me to want to persecute Christians.

Unless the video also makes people wanna persecute cats, jews, people who sample cats*, people who sample jewish folk songs and uhh ..

Or maybe I really didnt get the point.

How is this video again making Christians persecuted?

*yes Venetian Snares, I mean you, fuckhead, go back to Finland. no I don't care you're really Canadian, you got the beard and the crazy eyes so go back to fucking Finland.
Title: Re: And Christians wonder
Post by: Jenne on October 27, 2009, 12:48:49 PM
I celebrate Xmas, too, I really don't give a shit about cats singing, etc.  But the commercialization of it all gets on my nerves.  So do a lot of other commercialized shit, though, too.  I used to love the stores that specialized in Christmas-year-round, but now it's like every department store and convenience store is in on the gag.  And the Xmas music being played for 4 straight weeks in every public place is kinda overdone too.  I'm down with the 2 weeks that is traditional...but more than 4 weeks is overkill imho.
Title: Re: And Christians wonder
Post by: Golden Applesauce on October 27, 2009, 03:49:24 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 27, 2009, 12:16:40 PM
Quote from: Nigel on October 26, 2009, 11:20:54 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 26, 2009, 09:05:48 PM
um okay, but what's it got to do with Christians?

Um

Christmas?

Also, "What Child is This" would be referring to Jesus, as do almost all Christmas carols, what it it being "Christmas" and all that.

Well, non-christians celebrate Christmas too (with the trees and the lights and santa claus and stuff), plus the bit that I recognized from the song was Hava Naquila, which is Jewish. (meaning I didnt knwo the other song)

What is Halloween? Pagans, right? If someone recorded something retarded to do with Halloween would you think "no wonder Pagans are persecuted"?

Maybe it's different over here, but someone who records a video with cats singing a mashup of christmas songs and a Hebrew folk song isn't automatically Christian in my eyes, and therefore doesn't cause me to want to persecute Christians.

Unless the video also makes people wanna persecute cats, jews, people who sample cats*, people who sample jewish folk songs and uhh ..

Or maybe I really didnt get the point.

How is this video again making Christians persecuted?

*yes Venetian Snares, I mean you, fuckhead, go back to Finland. no I don't care you're really Canadian, you got the beard and the crazy eyes so go back to fucking Finland.

Halloween has had enough Christianizing influence over here (I don't think anybody celebrates it outside of the USA?), inasmuch as it's "All Hallows Eve," the day before All Saints Day.  You can probably trace the holiday back to non-Christian roots, but you can do that with just about every Christian holiday.

Mostly, it's a corporate holiday and a children's holiday.  The people whining about it being a "pagan" holiday are ignorant.
Title: Re: And Christians wonder
Post by: LMNO on October 27, 2009, 03:58:36 PM
What?  No mention of Samhain?
Title: Re: And Christians wonder
Post by: Golden Applesauce on October 27, 2009, 04:09:39 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 27, 2009, 03:58:36 PM
What?  No mention of Samhain?

Every culture that has a harvest has some kind of harvest festival.
Title: Re: And Christians wonder
Post by: Rumckle on October 27, 2009, 05:14:58 PM
My favourite is the annual organ harvesting festival.
Title: Re: And Christians wonder
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 27, 2009, 05:52:59 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 27, 2009, 12:16:40 PM
Quote from: Nigel on October 26, 2009, 11:20:54 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 26, 2009, 09:05:48 PM
um okay, but what's it got to do with Christians?

Um

Christmas?

Also, "What Child is This" would be referring to Jesus, as do almost all Christmas carols, what it it being "Christmas" and all that.

Well, non-christians celebrate Christmas too (with the trees and the lights and santa claus and stuff), plus the bit that I recognized from the song was Hava Naquila, which is Jewish. (meaning I didnt knwo the other song)

What is Halloween? Pagans, right? If someone recorded something retarded to do with Halloween would you think "no wonder Pagans are persecuted"?

Maybe it's different over here, but someone who records a video with cats singing a mashup of christmas songs and a Hebrew folk song isn't automatically Christian in my eyes, and therefore doesn't cause me to want to persecute Christians.

Unless the video also makes people wanna persecute cats, jews, people who sample cats*, people who sample jewish folk songs and uhh ..

Or maybe I really didnt get the point.

How is this video again making Christians persecuted?

*yes Venetian Snares, I mean you, fuckhead, go back to Finland. no I don't care you're really Canadian, you got the beard and the crazy eyes so go back to fucking Finland.

It is a joke, basically saying "People will want to persecute Christians for making this terrible Christmas video".

Halloween is a derivation of All Hallow's Eve. FYI. Not that it's a specifically Christian holiday, but it is a "Christianized" holiday.
Almost all Christian holidays seem to be Christianized versions of Pagan holidays, but so what? They had to start somewhere. And there are some Jewish folk sogs that have been adapted into the Christmas repertoire, because Christianity sprang from Judaism.

Non-Christians may celebrate a Christian holiday, sure. I'm not Jewish but I usually celebrate Passover with my Jewish friends, too. That doesn't make Passover a Discordian holiday, though.

Christmas is the main big Christian holiday. My joke stands, dammit, it stands.
Title: Re: And Christians wonder
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on October 27, 2009, 09:03:08 PM
Quote from: GA on October 27, 2009, 04:09:39 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 27, 2009, 03:58:36 PM
What?  No mention of Samhain?

Every culture that has a harvest has some kind of harvest festival.

Samhain is NOT the "harvest festival" in Pagan terms. Thats Lammas, which is the 2nd of August.
Title: Re: And Christians wonder
Post by: Iason Ouabache on October 27, 2009, 10:00:33 PM
Quote from: Pixie O'Fubar on October 27, 2009, 09:03:08 PM
Quote from: GA on October 27, 2009, 04:09:39 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 27, 2009, 03:58:36 PM
What?  No mention of Samhain?

Every culture that has a harvest has some kind of harvest festival.

Samhain is NOT the "harvest festival" in Pagan terms. Thats Lammas, which is the 2nd of August.
A harvest festival in August? That might be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Most crops aren't even half way grown by then. Around here harvest is mid October to late November.
Title: Re: And Christians wonder
Post by: Nast on October 27, 2009, 10:06:05 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 27, 2009, 10:00:33 PM
Quote from: Pixie O'Fubar on October 27, 2009, 09:03:08 PM
Quote from: GA on October 27, 2009, 04:09:39 PM
Quote from: LMNO on October 27, 2009, 03:58:36 PM
What?  No mention of Samhain?

Every culture that has a harvest has some kind of harvest festival.

Samhain is NOT the "harvest festival" in Pagan terms. Thats Lammas, which is the 2nd of August.
A harvest festival in August? That might be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Most crops aren't even half way grown by then. Around here harvest is mid October to late November.

Might depend what you plant/ local climate. Here all our summer plantings are done by July or August. *shrug*
Title: Re: And Christians wonder
Post by: Iason Ouabache on October 27, 2009, 10:17:03 PM
Well, not all of us live inside the Arctic Circle.  :wink:
Title: Re: And Christians wonder
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 27, 2009, 10:22:30 PM
Yeah, it just depends on your latitude and the types of crops. Wheat is harvested in the middle of July, in Oregon.
Title: Re: And Christians wonder
Post by: Iason Ouabache on October 27, 2009, 11:15:06 PM
Quote from: Nigel on October 27, 2009, 10:22:30 PM
Yeah, it just depends on your latitude and the types of crops. Wheat is harvested in the middle of July, in Oregon.
Ah, I always forget about wheat since almost no one grows it around here. Summer wheat takes about 4 months to get to harvest so planting in April and harvesting in July or August makes sense. Almost everyone here rotates corn or soybeans which are harvested this time of year.