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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: ~ on November 12, 2009, 08:00:18 AM

Title: Error There Has Been!
Post by: ~ on November 12, 2009, 08:00:18 AM
Error There Has Been!
Title: Re: B-AI's speculative analogue TV thread.
Post by: rong on November 12, 2009, 01:52:39 PM
although i like this idea, i don't really think it's worth investing much in.  nobody looks for analog TV signals to watch anymore - and, i'm assuming, new TVs won't even be capable of tuning an analog signal. 

this would, in my opinion, be way more expensive and less successful than setting up a youtube channel.

not to burst your bubble.  just sayin.

i think an underground radio station might be more worthwhile . . . but that's also illegal, so . . . you know. . .
Title: Re: B-AI's speculative analogue TV thread.
Post by: Rococo Modem Basilisk on November 12, 2009, 07:14:33 PM
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-To-Save-Analog-TV/

Saw this yesterday. Syncronicity?
Title: Re: B-AI's speculative analogue TV thread.
Post by: on November 12, 2009, 07:23:16 PM
I'm curious to find out the legality and workability of this idea.
Also, I'd like to see a modern reenvisioning of Pump up the Volume centered around Pirate TV, as opposed to radio.
Title: Re: B-AI's speculative analogue TV thread.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 12, 2009, 07:24:28 PM
Jail forever, as the terrorist swine we are.
Title: Re: B-AI's speculative analogue TV thread.
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on November 12, 2009, 07:25:35 PM
HAMTV has been around for ages, but you gotta have your amateur radio license to broadcast... then again, you gotta have a license to broadcast any signal in the FCC defined bands, with minor exceptions like Citizen Band radio.

All in all, you could 'maybe' get very local coverage, but people will only find it IF they're looking for it and if/when the FCC picks it up, you'll be paying very large fines and you'll lose all of your equipment.

Pirate broadcasting without getting caught is possible, but its expensive. *

*KYFMS principle invoked.

Title: Re: B-AI's speculative analogue TV thread.
Post by: Rococo Modem Basilisk on November 12, 2009, 08:21:17 PM
There are regulations specifically based on broadcast area for non-licensed broadcasters.

I am more worried about non-television tech using said bands, as was (at one point) the plan. Google (iirc) wanted to get the now-free space on the RF spectrum to be reallocated to some experimental internet device / protocol. Summaries ranged from rfid to bluetooth to wifi in terms of range and purpose; I'd think it would be closer to wifi but longer range.
Title: Re: B-AI's speculative analogue TV thread.
Post by: Dimocritus on November 12, 2009, 09:44:09 PM
I like this idea. What kind of red tape is involved in getting an amateur license? Or would having a license defeat the purpose?
Title: Re: B-AI's speculative analogue TV thread.
Post by: Rococo Modem Basilisk on November 12, 2009, 10:13:37 PM
Quote from: wikipedia
In North America, amateur radio bands that are suitable for a television signal (capable of the necessary wideband signal) fall in between the UHF and VHF range, between channels 13 and 14, in the 70 cm ham band. While outside of broadcast television channels, this frequency falls into CATV frequencies, on channels 57 to 60 (420-444 MHz). As such, ATV broadcasts are viewed by setting a television to cable input, and attaching an antenna.
sauce: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur_television#North_American_context

This seems to imply that you just need a ham license and to follow the procedures for hams, and that there is an overlap between the ham radio bands and the broadcast TV bands. That said, I'm not a ham. Similar info for europe should be down the page.
Title: Re: B-AI's speculative analogue TV thread.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 12, 2009, 10:14:28 PM
Quote from: dimo on November 12, 2009, 09:44:09 PM
I like this idea. What kind of red tape is involved in getting an amateur license? Or would having a license defeat the purpose?

Problem:  Enki will just spag up the station with "French Experimental Music" the same way he wrecked Radio Free Discordia.
Title: Re: B-AI's speculative analogue TV thread.
Post by: Rococo Modem Basilisk on November 12, 2009, 10:16:05 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 12, 2009, 10:14:28 PM
Quote from: dimo on November 12, 2009, 09:44:09 PM
I like this idea. What kind of red tape is involved in getting an amateur license? Or would having a license defeat the purpose?

Problem:  Enki will just spag up the station with "French Experimental Music" the same way he wrecked Radio Free Discordia.

It is too bad that you live so far outside maximum broadcast range.
Title: Re: B-AI's speculative analogue TV thread.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 12, 2009, 10:18:00 PM
Quote from: Enki v. 2.0 on November 12, 2009, 10:16:05 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 12, 2009, 10:14:28 PM
Quote from: dimo on November 12, 2009, 09:44:09 PM
I like this idea. What kind of red tape is involved in getting an amateur license? Or would having a license defeat the purpose?

Problem:  Enki will just spag up the station with "French Experimental Music" the same way he wrecked Radio Free Discordia.

It is too bad that you live so far outside maximum broadcast range.

That's okay, I have faith that you will also destroy 23ae.
Title: Re: B-AI's speculative analogue TV thread.
Post by: Roo on November 12, 2009, 10:35:07 PM
Quote from: dimo on November 12, 2009, 09:44:09 PM
I like this idea. What kind of red tape is involved in getting an amateur license? Or would having a license defeat the purpose?
check out http://forums.qrz.com/index.php (http://forums.qrz.com/index.php). They should be able to answer all your questions.
Title: Re: B-AI's speculative analogue TV thread.
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on November 13, 2009, 01:23:40 AM
Quote from: dimo on November 12, 2009, 09:44:09 PM
I like this idea. What kind of red tape is involved in getting an amateur license? Or would having a license defeat the purpose?

Technician Class Ham license. You don't even need to know Morse code anymore.  :lulz:


Rat (ex-Ham)

"Was that a Beeep or a Beep?  :argh!:"
Title: Re: B-AI's speculative analogue TV thread.
Post by: Rococo Modem Basilisk on November 13, 2009, 11:39:44 AM
Quote from: Doctor Rat Bastard on November 13, 2009, 01:23:40 AM
You don't even need to know Morse code anymore.  :lulz:

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Title: Re: B-AI's speculative analogue TV thread.
Post by: Rococo Modem Basilisk on November 16, 2009, 03:05:22 AM
Quote from: BAI on November 16, 2009, 02:31:01 AM
why would I even need to know morse code when the computer translates it for me lol :)
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