This is kinda cool
http://thepiratebay.org/blog/175
QuoteYou might have noticed all the new magnet icons everywhere?
These are "magnet links", a link that lets you download a torrent directly in your BitTorrent client, instead of your browser. Most clients supports this (uTorrent, Vuze, rtorrent, whatever) and will get the relevant torrent data over the DHT network.
And DHT? It's a de-centralized peer to peer network that all modern clients join by default, even if they are currently not downloading any torrents. DHT can help you find peers and metadata when you choose to start a torrent download.
(If you want to learn more about DHT this Torrentfreak article might be a good place to start)
You might also have noticed that the tracker has been down lately? And that the upload page don't recommend trackers anymore! The development of DHT has reached a stage where a tracker is no longer needed to use a torrent. DHT (combined with PEX) is highly effective in finding peers without the need for a centralized service. If you run uTorrent you might have noticed in the tracker tab of your torrents that the [Peer Exchange] (PEX) row is often reporting a lot more peers than the trackers you might have for that torrent. These peers all came to you without the use of a central tracker service! This is what we consider to be the future. Faster and more stability for the users because there is no central point to rely upon.
So far, my biggest problem has been finding available seeds for the things I want to "preview"*. It took my at least 3 days to download the Kid Cudi album.
*After I download an item and listen/read it, I immediately delete it and then buy it in a store. Of course. Of course.
Naturally. Personally, for more exotic downloads, I find Demonoid is far superior. Or would be, if they hadn't nuked their database by accident.
Still, the innovation is fairly impressive.
They accidentally the whole database?
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:asplode:
Gawd, I love that shit.
Thank God they busted up TPB.
There are people who rely on single tracker websites? Even when there are labor-saving tools like scrapetorrent and torrent vortex?
Is there a good reason to do this?
there's what how what now?
I don't quite follow you, I usually get my torrents from isohunt.com, but also when I get them from TPB, when I put them in uTorrent, I see it's connecting to several different trackers?
scrapetorrent.com
hxxp://v0rtex.appspot.com/
Does all the work. I thought this was common knowledge?
oh they're torrent meta search engines. seem to be pretty good ones, granted, and no I didn't know them.
but that's not much to do with trackers, or this new decentralized system. even though afaik, DHT has been around for quite a while.
I know, I just got the impression that people were going to individual sites for all their torrent needs, when they could be searching multiple places more easily.
Just trying to help. Backing away from the network geek discussion very slowly...
that v0rtex place looked pretty cool, did gave me a duplicate when searching for the german documentary "Staub", which unfortunately doesnt seem to be seeded anywhere anymore :(
the other site didnt really workw ell for me
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_tracker
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_hash_table
The implications are pretty cool.
Yeah. Gotta love that Law of Eristic Escalation.
okay so, help me break this down
the technological shift is that there's no longer a need for a central torrent tracker, meaning that even if they successfully shut down every pirate bay and mininova, (har!) people are still going to be trading torrents?
I can totally see how a decentralized network is a lot easier to protect. They can't just cut off its head.
I do, however, love the idea that they're holding some guy in sweden (russia now?) responsible for all the illegal trading I've been doing. Does this make me more responsible?
As a heavy user of private torrenting trackers, I have to say I'm not terribly keen on DHT. Bittorrent generally has some of the best quality sites and content, and I think decentralisation (even of just the public networks) would detract from that. I don't wanna see torrenting become the next Limewire, is all.
This has nothing to do with the sites you find a torrent on, you still need Pirate Bay or Isohunt or whatever else to find the starter file, this is an under the hood change.
Not entirely sure but a magnet:// link should activate your torrent client and then the client itself will contact whatever's at the magnet location and then get the torrent by itself, so you don't actually need to download anything.
But by all means, google it, there's probably something incredibly smart and useful about it too.
Quote from: Cramulus on November 23, 2009, 04:06:42 PM
okay so, help me break this down
the technological shift is that there's no longer a need for a central torrent tracker, meaning that even if they successfully shut down every pirate bay and mininova, (har!) people are still going to be trading torrents?
I can totally see how a decentralized network is a lot easier to protect. They can't just cut off its head.
I do, however, love the idea that they're holding some guy in sweden (russia now?) responsible for all the illegal trading I've been doing. Does this make me more responsible?
People will always be trading torrents or some equivalent of it, even if it was centralized. Before TPB there was KaZaa, before that Napster, before that UseNet and FTP.
THE PIRATES ARE DEAD! LONG LIVE THE PIRATES!
The magnet link itself contains a hash of the content, so the bittorrent client then asks the DHT hosts it knows about to see if they have any content which matches the hash.
You know, I still think I'm not doing this TPB thing right.
I've been looking for certain files there, many which are very popular, but all my searches turn up with no hits.
Is there some sort of trick I need to know?
I usually just append "torrent" to a google search, I guess you could add "site:thepiratebay.org".. but I personally find thepiratebay search function to be to slow/overloaded on the site itself.
yeah, I never seem to get any hits when I search ON the pirate bay. Search via google with a phrase like,
"It's always sunny s05e10 torrent" or "Red hot chili peppers torrent" or whatever
the first few links returned are often garbage
look for something with a lot of seeds
Or you could just use Demonoid, which is back up.
Don't you need to be a member in order to download?
Yes. I have an invite, if you want one.
Yes, please. Do you need an email? I shall PM.
I usually use isohunt.com myself. I configured it as a Search in Opera (right-click in the search form > "Create Search"), so now I can just type "iso Gamer 2009" to look for a certain movie.
tip: if your movie title consists of a relatively common phrase, you can narrow down the search by appending the release year. this is also included in the torrent title and probably does not occur in the non-hits you werent looking for.
also, Cram's search query, for those who didnt know "s05e10" stands for "season 5, episode 10", which is the usual way season/episode numbers are included in the title. sometimes you need to try a variation like "s5e10" or something.
and, LMNO, in case you were searching for music, torrents are often a collection of several albums by the same artist (because people prefer to get larger torrents at once), so it's a good idea to just search for the artist, and not specific albums. In most torrent search engines (like Isohunt) you can see a list of files that are in the torrent before you download it, so you know if the one you were looking for is there. Also, if you use uTorrent (which you should, it's good and doesn't use a lot of memory), you can de-select any files or directories in the torrent you do not want. (I always deselect the tiny text files that say "downloaded from here and here.txt", cause even if they're tiny I don't need them crudding up my HD)
Many thanks to all you young whippersnappers for helping out a technofail old person.
Orrrrr you could get into real private trackers, where you have to keep a ratio, but the download speeds are way faster and the content is almost always far better.
BDS,
Torrent Elitist, mo'fuckers.
tell me about the better content. because that has to be bullshit. the new content is released via the newsgroups and other channels, and only later (quickly, but later) hits the torrents, both public and private.
afaik there is not much quality content released that is only on private trackers and not on public. maybe some stuff that is ripped by and distributed only in that particular private community, but seriously that's retarded, you are pirating anyway so why bother hoarding?
the speeds I don't really care. I used to have a very fast connection and I got my episodes in 8 minutes and movies in 30 from public trackers. currently my connection speed is much slower. but unless I'm ever going to get at some university T1 or backbone connection, I couldn't take advantage of anything faster than what public trackers would have to offer me anyway?
and then there's the problem of the people that "host" these private trackers, they usually have zero knowledge about torrents (or DHT, or which clients actually report bad ratios, or whatever) and care mostly about their l33t warez/moviez status and power trip.
though I might be wrong. It's been ages since I've been on any private tracker forum, but afaik there's not much there that cant be found with public torrents.
except for the ratio thing, since everybody is doing that, seeding to get your ratio up takes a long time, and therefore most files will be seeded abundantly for a very long time as well.
maybe I'm missing some of the advantages, so enlighten me?
One advantage I found is that the older stuff is generally easier to find, since you're on a private tracker, and other members are motivated to archive old files to keep their points up. Also, in terms of completeness and quality - less files (relatively un)compressed into dozens of .rar files, less annoying .txt and .nfo files, also episode titles for shows are more likely to follow the same naming scheme/format which makes things easier.
But you're right I think, for newish popular stuff where you don't mind a small amount of inconvenience getting to your content, public trackers are great, and they're okay for older stuff.
Demonoid has served me pretty well. There are some older films and stuff on there which are harder to get on TPB or Isohunt, and a generally better book selection. Also, because you have to be a member to download, people seed for a lot longer (to ensure a better share ratio), whereas there is no incentive to do this on TPB.
So far, Demonoid has done me pretty well.
So, next question. I have both BitTorrent and Vuze. I initially tried to download something using BT, and got nothing. So, I tried Vuze, and it worked right away.
Is there a difference, or was it just coincidence, and all the seeds happened to be online after I quit out of BT, and launched Vuze?
BT might not have been configured correctly re: your firewall settings and so on. I know it was bugging me, so I switched to utorrent, which has worked fine ever since.
Good to know.
Either way, I got some good stuff.
REMINDER: Check out Peer Guardian.
LMNO, seriously, check out http://utorrent.com it's way more lightweight than Vuze or BitTorrent.
Will do.
I've used uTorrent and it rocks.
uTorrent is indeed the bomb. It goes pretty quick for me, most times anyway.
BDS SUPER QUICK GUIDE TO PRIVATE TORRENTING SHIT.
SUPER QUICK GLOSSARY
"Scene" - Where a large proportion of the torrents (the new new stuff, anyway) on the internet begin, the scene is basically the term for any release group who upload files quickly and usually after a leak from somewhere. For a better definition, check this article. (http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.01/topsite.html?pg=1&topic=topsite&topic_set=) (recommended, it's goddamn interesting.)
In terms of private trackers, I'm currently on...
TehConnection (Movies) (I'm staff there)
What.cd (Music)
BitGAMER (Games, of all sorts. PC, Xbox, PS3, Wii, all sorts.)
Fux0r (PR0NS LOL)
TVTorrents (TV shows)
Underground Gamer (Old freakin' games)
RevolutionTT (Scene stuff)
Bit-HDTV (Hi-def stuff)
LzTr (Movie/Game soundtracks, classical stuff)
Oh, and Demonoid.
If you want an in to any of these places, PM me and I'll see what I can do. No promises, mind. Also if your connection is the suck, don't bother, it's sometimes pretty hard to keep ratio on certain of these.
Okay, so. Couple quick reasons why content is better.
1.) User generated rips, which are almost always exclusive to whichever private tracker uploaded to. For example, What.cd has damn near 700,000 torrents, and very few of these are scene rips. They also do a nice line in FLAC rips, which are rarely found on publics, and also vinyl rips, which are damn near impossible to find on public sites.
2.) The community is so much nicer. Everyone is striving to attain the highest ratio possible, so content standards go up. For example, user rips on what.cd are all uploaded with log files, letting you know exactly what it is you're snatching. Movie rips on TehConnection are all (ish) uploaded with Mediainfo settings and screenshots, so no more downloading shitty cam rips of films masquerading as 1080p HD rips. For me, with my music downloading, quality is most definitely very important, and I just don't trust the stuff on public trackers not to be transcodes from like, 32kbps .wma or some shit.
Quote from: Triple Zero on December 16, 2009, 01:43:33 PM
tell me about the better content. because that has to be bullshit. the new content is released via the newsgroups and other channels, and only later (quickly, but later) hits the torrents, both public and private.
Shit hits private scene trackers way faster than it hits public trackers. I occasionally watch the times, and the fastest private's usually have content up within a couple minutes after it PRE's.
Quote from: Triple Zero on December 16, 2009, 01:43:33 PM
afaik there is not much quality content released that is only on private trackers and not on public. maybe some stuff that is ripped by and distributed only in that particular private community, but seriously that's retarded, you are pirating anyway so why bother hoarding?
Wrong, there's far more quality stuff on private sites. And you can be way surer of its origins too.
Quote from: Triple Zero on December 16, 2009, 01:43:33 PM
the speeds I don't really care. I used to have a very fast connection and I got my episodes in 8 minutes and movies in 30 from public trackers. currently my connection speed is much slower. but unless I'm ever going to get at some university T1 or backbone connection, I couldn't take advantage of anything faster than what public trackers would have to offer me anyway?
I think you'd be surprised, I currently max out my connection far faster and more effectively on things downloaded from privates than I do on most things snatched from publics. But YMMV, I guess.
Quote from: Triple Zero on December 16, 2009, 01:43:33 PM
and then there's the problem of the people that "host" these private trackers, they usually have zero knowledge about torrents (or DHT, or which clients actually report bad ratios, or whatever) and care mostly about their l33t warez/moviez status and power trip.
Nope, the mods on pretty much every tracker I'm on all have a good knowledge of what they're doing, and the site devs are usually freakin' insane codemonkeys.
Quote from: Triple Zero on December 16, 2009, 01:43:33 PM
though I might be wrong. It's been ages since I've been on any private tracker forum, but afaik there's not much there that cant be found with public torrents.
There's way more shit on private's, I find it much easier to find stuff there than on publics, tbh.
Oookay, that totally came out longer and shittier than I expected. But I hope I at least kinda answered your question.
Question: I prefer obscure/unpopular/non-popular things. Torrent seeds are based upon the amount of people who like a piece of content, and help host it, right? So, it's a popularity contest, just like everything else. Any tips on people looking for hard-to-find content?
Well, it would depend what kind of obscure things you were looking for. But, by nature, private trackers are generally better for more obscure stuff, because of the way the seeding works. As everyone is trying to keep their ratio high, they're more likely to keep whatever they just downloaded seeding for longer. Which means more seeds overall, and very little hit and running (where people just snatch a file and don't seed it at all.)
However, the only problem is, you have to keep your ratio up too, which is notoriously difficult on slower connections.
Ok, with that in mind, do you have to "choose" to seed a file? I figured it was "opt out" more than "opt in". I wasn't I had to choose to seed a particular file, and there isn't an obvious button to allow that, which makes a typical user unaware of the courtesy.
Well. I suppose it is an opt out system, in that, in most clients, by default a torrent will simply continue seeding once it is finished downloading, and to stop it seeding you have to stop it from doing so. But, being as you have to preserve the original file in its entirety (no file name changes, no id3 tag cleaning up) for it to continue seeding, it can sometimes be kind of a bitch. Of the 356 albums I'm currently seeding to what.cd, I have two copies of each one. One is in my music folder, in a sensible folder structure, full id3 tags and mostly with album art, and the other is the original downloaded mp3 files.
That said, it's rare that downloads from what.cd require any cleaning up, I just found it easier to chuck all the originals on my external drive and have a properly indexable folder with my entire library in.
So I guess what I'm trying to say is that, despite it being physically an opt-out thing, a lot of people see it as being opt-in, i.e. they get the choice whether to continue seeding or not.
Quote from: LMNO on December 16, 2009, 08:20:10 PM
Question: I prefer obscure/unpopular/non-popular things. Torrent seeds are based upon the amount of people who like a piece of content, and help host it, right? So, it's a popularity contest, just like everything else. Any tips on people looking for hard-to-find content?
Get Demonoid invite. It is *perfect* for this kind of thing.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on December 16, 2009, 10:08:42 PM
Quote from: LMNO on December 16, 2009, 08:20:10 PM
Question: I prefer obscure/unpopular/non-popular things. Torrent seeds are based upon the amount of people who like a piece of content, and help host it, right? So, it's a popularity contest, just like everything else. Any tips on people looking for hard-to-find content?
Get Demonoid invite. It is *perfect* for this kind of thing.
How does one get one? Are they scarce?
Quote from: FP on December 17, 2009, 12:24:41 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on December 16, 2009, 10:08:42 PM
Quote from: LMNO on December 16, 2009, 08:20:10 PM
Question: I prefer obscure/unpopular/non-popular things. Torrent seeds are based upon the amount of people who like a piece of content, and help host it, right? So, it's a popularity contest, just like everything else. Any tips on people looking for hard-to-find content?
Get Demonoid invite. It is *perfect* for this kind of thing.
How does one get one? Are they scarce?
I'm wondering about this myself.
Users that are already on there get given a set number of invites per month, and according to their ratio, IIRC. Sign-ups are sometimes open though, it might be worth checking the site to see.
I've always regarded Demonoid as a sort of halfway house, better than public trackers, but not as good as real privates. It's awesome if your connection would be too crap to keep a good ratio on privates, though.
Out of curiosity, define 'good ratio' for me? What do these private trackers require?
And how do they get enough people to fill out the obscure stuff?
I've already sent LMNO an invite.
LMNO, it depends on your torrent client, but with uTorrent, simply leaving the actual file where it downloaded to and not removing the file from your torrent client's list should be enough. As it is downloading, you should be able to notice a column to the right, next to the "Down Speed" called "Up Speed". That is you seeding the file. Normally there is a ratio column too, showing you how much you've uploaded compared to the download.
Requia, it can vary on community standards. I try to keep mine as close to 1.00 as possible, even though normally it only matters for the sake of personal reputation, rather than "you will get banned unless you seed this much". I think most people accept around .75 or other though. Also, poor seeders are not likely to have any requests for files answered.
Quote from: Cain on December 17, 2009, 09:59:51 AM
I've already sent LMNO an invite.
Dammit, I did too. :argh!:
BDS thanks for your explanation, I suppose I got the wrong impression from these private torrent places.
I should know better than to glean my info from comments left around public torrents and torrent blogs and such :) My other source was my old WoW addict flatmate who was never really able to explain why I would want to bother, even though he did offer me invites (this was back when we were on a fat broadband connection).
FWIW, you convinced me that private trackers do indeed have added value. So any comments below about "public trackers can also do X and Y" should be seen more as a comparison rather than an argument against private trackers.
Quote from: BDS on December 16, 2009, 08:02:05 PMif your connection is the suck, don't bother, it's sometimes pretty hard to keep ratio on certain of these.
wouldn't you just seed longer, in that case?
currently my maximum upload speed is about 30 kb/s, which is not a lot, and I usually limit it to 12-18 kb/s because otherwise it clogs up my downstream as well, and surfing becomes a bitch. especially if the gf also wants to watch the news or some other TV program on streaming.
I suppose that puts me nicely in the "don't bother" category, I suppose :)
Quote2.) The community is so much nicer. Everyone is striving to attain the highest ratio possible, so content standards go up. For example, user rips on what.cd are all uploaded with log files, letting you know exactly what it is you're snatching. Movie rips on TehConnection are all (ish) uploaded with Mediainfo settings and screenshots, so no more downloading shitty cam rips of films masquerading as 1080p HD rips. For me, with my music downloading, quality is most definitely very important, and I just don't trust the stuff on public trackers not to be transcodes from like, 32kbps .wma or some shit.
ok that's cool. from what I heard from outside, it seemed to me to be all about e-penises and e-testosterons who's the coolest kid with the coolest connection and the most "scene" and what not.
how's software? that is one thing I would consider a definite advantage. For instance I'm (not very actively) looking for a nice and recent windows XP slipstream optimized for netbooks. Cause I need to do a reinstall before I make it into a Linux dual boot. Anyway, I would not immediately trust something from a public site, it's an entire OS after all, way too easy to slip something in. And just going by the comments on torrents, even though it helps somewhat with pre-evaluating, I don't really get the impression they are very intelligent. If however the slipstream was actually built by a user of the private community, someone with a reputation to lose, it becomes a whole different story*.
(* actually, it still would be rather easy to hide a botnet zombie sleeper somewhere, without any reasonable chance of detection. but botnets are a numbers game)
QuoteShit hits private scene trackers way faster than it hits public trackers. I occasionally watch the times, and the fastest private's usually have content up within a couple minutes after it PRE's.
what's PRE?
personally, I don't really care if it's minutes, hours or a day. that's a littlebit an e-pen0r thing, IMO. except for series that are currently aired. but I can get the latest Big Bang Theory episode within an hour after it's aired from a public torrent as well. (might be minutes too, but I never checked that quickly)
QuoteI think you'd be surprised, I currently max out my connection far faster and more effectively on things downloaded from privates than I do on most things snatched from publics. But YMMV, I guess.
It's nice when you want a movie on demand, I guess :)
So, if you were downloading something that you do not need immediately, would you limit your download speed as well, in order to preserve your ratio?
QuoteQuote from: Triple Zero on December 16, 2009, 01:43:33 PM
and then there's the problem of the people that "host" these private trackers, they usually have zero knowledge about torrents (or DHT, or which clients actually report bad ratios, or whatever) and care mostly about their l33t warez/moviez status and power trip.
Nope, the mods on pretty much every tracker I'm on all have a good knowledge of what they're doing, and the site devs are usually freakin' insane codemonkeys.
Ok I got that impression from some discussion on a torrent blog or something where they were talking about the merits of DHT and PEX. I guess some people got some bad experiences then, or maybe just were butthurt.
And codemonkeys? Hmmmm. I should be hanging out (online) with more codemonkeys anyway. <digress>
I need to check up on Seeker's board, and I need to find myself some real quality forum software</digress> (four hours and two posts on Seekers board later, I return to finish writing this one)
oh, it appears to have been finished already now. good. :)
one remark about uTorrent and the columns, you can right click them and turn some of them on or off, and drag and place them a way you think is clearer than the default. I have (in this order) Name, Done, ETA, Down speed, Up speed, Selected size, Downloaded, Ratio, Status, Seeds, Peers, Bw Alloc, Elapsed. There is also some kind of multi sort trick, you can hold ctrl or alt or rightclick or something, and then you can sort your torrents first on status and then on ETA, so that the seeding torrents will be below the downloading ones, but still sorted on ETA.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on December 17, 2009, 09:28:47 AM
Out of curiosity, define 'good ratio' for me? What do these private trackers require?
And how do they get enough people to fill out the obscure stuff?
We-ell. Different sites require different ratios and there are bands based on how much you've downloaded. I can't get on any of my trackers atm, on a dumbshit school network, but IIRC, in the 20-30GB downloaded band that I'm currently in on what.cd, you have to keep a minimum of 0.3, and my current ratio is 0.56 (ish). This sounds a lot easier than it is, bare in mind my downstream peaks at about 1.3mbps and yet my upstream peaks at about 70kbps. Its also quite hard to compete with the seedboxes and users with faster connections. Also, there are bonuses for having a much higher ratio than you need. For example, there are user classes based on ratio and amount uploaded, for Power User (this gives you some funky powers and that) on what.cd you need to keep a 1.05 ratio and have >50GB downloaded, IIRC.
Trips, this computer thinks it's fucking hilarious and doesn't scroll shit properly when you try and quote. I'll answer your post when I get home, can't really work this shit atm. :|
I'm now trying to imagine having a total downloaded smaller than 50 gigs <_<
On What.CD that's not so hard, considering my average download is a 100mb or so v0 mp3 album. I occasionally grab FLAC stuff, but I just don't have the hard drive space. On TehConnection, where my average download is a 14gb 1080p movie rip, my total downloaded is like 150GB (a lot of the stuff I've snatched is freeleech, meaning it doesn't count towards your download) and my ratio is like 1.4 or something. I guess it depends on how heavy your download is, but for me, having access to this private tracker has kind of changed the way I view torrenting. Before it was just a way for me to get free shit; now it's an awesome way to talk to like minded people, get recommendations for awesome shit, and downloading stuff is just sort of a bonus.
Ah, so a lot of these are specialized trackers?
That actually sounds useful as hell.
All of them are specialised trackers. I think I posted a list of most of them earlier, can't remember though. And yeah, it's damn useful, I know exactly where to go when I wanna get something.
Quote from: Triple Zero on December 17, 2009, 12:08:53 PM
wouldn't you just seed longer, in that case?
currently my maximum upload speed is about 30 kb/s, which is not a lot, and I usually limit it to 12-18 kb/s because otherwise it clogs up my downstream as well, and surfing becomes a bitch. especially if the gf also wants to watch the news or some other TV program on streaming.
I suppose that puts me nicely in the "don't bother" category, I suppose :)
Well, yes. But seeding longer doesn't always work, I've been seeding torrents for months and barely got any upload on them at all. And yeah, I'd think 30kbps probably is a little too slow for you to be able to manage, unfortunately.
Quote from: Triple Zero on December 17, 2009, 12:08:53 PM
how's software? that is one thing I would consider a definite advantage. For instance I'm (not very actively) looking for a nice and recent windows XP slipstream optimized for netbooks. Cause I need to do a reinstall before I make it into a Linux dual boot. Anyway, I would not immediately trust something from a public site, it's an entire OS after all, way too easy to slip something in. And just going by the comments on torrents, even though it helps somewhat with pre-evaluating, I don't really get the impression they are very intelligent. If however the slipstream was actually built by a user of the private community, someone with a reputation to lose, it becomes a whole different story*.
(* actually, it still would be rather easy to hide a botnet zombie sleeper somewhere, without any reasonable chance of detection. but botnets are a numbers game)
There's lots of software on what.cd, but I'm not on any specialist software sites, no.
Quote from: Triple Zero on December 17, 2009, 12:08:53 PM
what's PRE?
personally, I don't really care if it's minutes, hours or a day. that's a littlebit an e-pen0r thing, IMO. except for series that are currently aired. but I can get the latest Big Bang Theory episode within an hour after it's aired from a public torrent as well. (might be minutes too, but I never checked that quickly)
Pre is sort of a term for when the file first gets picked up off the topsites. And yeah, it's kinda an e-pen0r thing, I like going to my friends: "I can download an album in 10 seconds, nuh." It's also useful as hell being able to snatch music that quick, almost renders things like Spotify and Grooveshark useless.
Quote from: Triple Zero on December 17, 2009, 12:08:53 PM
It's nice when you want a movie on demand, I guess :)
So, if you were downloading something that you do not need immediately, would you limit your download speed as well, in order to preserve your ratio?
Hell yeah. And nope, I rarely do that. Usually it's more beneficial just to pull it down and start seeding it quicker. Thing us, my upstream can only keep up with my downloading if I leave things seeding for ages, so limiting my downspeed isn't really gunna help.
Quote from: Triple Zero on December 17, 2009, 12:08:53 PM
Ok I got that impression from some discussion on a torrent blog or something where they were talking about the merits of DHT and PEX. I guess some people got some bad experiences then, or maybe just were butthurt.
And codemonkeys? Hmmmm. I should be hanging out (online) with more codemonkeys anyway. <digress>I need to check up on Seeker's board, and I need to find myself some real quality forum software</digress> (four hours and two posts on Seekers board later, I return to finish writing this one)
Yeah, some of the devs at What.CD coded this new software for hosting torrenting trackers, Gazelle. It's far better than the old TBDev source that most older trackers are running on. Makes shit look sexy as hell, an'all.