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Title: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Freeky on November 24, 2009, 02:40:14 AM
My son has a rash. It has been spreading across his body alarmingly fo the past day, and caused me some concern. After my mom got home from eating lunch with a friend (and in the privacy in my mind when I found out, I asked, "You have a friend?") I asked her to take me to an emergency clinic. Despite its name, they do NOT accept walk-in patients. As I was finding this out and preparing to leave, TGRR called me to say that my son had called him this morning, and he was making sure that I got my phone back. I mentioned that he had a terrible rash, and he advised me to get him checked out as soon as possible, good enough advice for any symptom with no obvious cause. It turned out to be caused by a virus, and there's nothing they can do except wait it out, so the trip to the ER was informative, but still rather expensive for my broke ass. My mom and I returned home to find their new dog had got into my room and chewed some things up, and had got up on the table and eaten my son's newest pair of shoes (replacements for the ones she chewed up before).

After my dad got home later on, I could hear her bitching about how I thought she knew nothing (she never offered me advice on what to do, and after we left the hosptial she even said that it could have been something), and how I'd never get as much money from my ex for child support as I 'was led to believe' (she's never even had to deal with such things, nor has she, to my knowledge anyway, done any research on the subject), and how 'not smart' I am (my dad replied, "She's stupid!") and a whole lot of other ridiculous nonsense.

Where do they get off? I mean, really? What gives them the right to say nasty things in a voice loud enough to tell half the city what they think, especially about people they don't know? I am including myself in this category, because they don't really know anything about me, and this suits me fine. I mean, sure, its probably very stressful on them for me to move back in with no job or other income, but why does she have to get all melodramatic? "Ohhhh, I just want my life to end!" Direct quote. "I can't afford to keep doing this!" After finding what her stupid dog had done, and aimed at me, I could just tell. It's her fucking dog, maybe she ought to train the stupid idiot, or keep her outside, or put her in a crate when nobody ss home, instead of blaming me for everything.

And it's like this almost every day.  I am getting so sick of this shit, and I have nowhere else to go. Well, One thought that keeps rolling around in  my mind is, "You want your life to end? That can be arranged."
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Lies on November 24, 2009, 05:11:29 AM
Reading this is a little worrying, as this doesn't appear to me to be so much as a rant as a cry for help...

It sounds like you have a lot of problems with your parents and what they think of you, and parents don't unusually have such unimaginatively high standards for their own children.

You sound depressed about your life and you're under a lot of financial stress, and it's understandable that such a situation can cause a major imbalance in the way you perceive life and cause suicidal thoughts...

Seriously, you don't sound well, and should probably seek counseling.

Love, Light + Chaos.

Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: The Johnny on November 24, 2009, 05:54:57 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on November 24, 2009, 05:11:29 AM

It sounds like you have a lot of problems with your parents and what they think of you, and parents don't unusually have such unimaginatively high standards for their own children.


One thing is having high standards, and another thing is being assholes about it.

It seems your parents dont want you there.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: hooplala on November 24, 2009, 01:37:51 PM
I feel for you, parents are often too easily lead to believe they can say anything about their kids.

On the other hand, though, if its her house I don't think she needs to keep her dog locked up all day so that it doesn't chew on her adult daughter-who-moved-back-in's shit.  No offense intended, just saying.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2009, 02:06:34 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on November 24, 2009, 02:40:14 AM
After my dad got home later on, I could hear her bitching about how I thought she knew nothing (she never offered me advice on what to do, and after we left the hosptial she even said that it could have been something), and how I'd never get as much money from my ex for child support as I 'was led to believe' (she's never even had to deal with such things, nor has she, to my knowledge anyway, done any research on the subject), and how 'not smart' I am (my dad replied, "She's stupid!") and a whole lot of other ridiculous nonsense.

Wow.  I knew it was bad, but not that bad.  You have to get the hell out of there.  I may have some ideas.  If you can survive til Wednesday, we'll talk.  If not, go down guns blazing, screaming "I DID IT FOR JOHNNY!"
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Richter on November 24, 2009, 02:10:57 PM
If Mom can only complain later, and not offer such sage advice when needed, then it's useless noise.  Shot in the dark guess: she's frustrated at herself, and doesn't know other ways to blow off the steam.    

The Dog, until it can be trained otherwise, is an agent and tool of the DUMB.  Training = damn well better.  Roger could advise better, but everyone in the house should be in on the program keeping the pup in line.  It will bring such useless little "icing on the cake" incidents and preventing them will keep EVERYONE's blood pressure down.

Sucks, but sounds like you're workign with it as best you can.  It gets daunting when you realize you have to be the adult around your parents.
Hold fast and be well.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Suu on November 24, 2009, 02:40:44 PM
I'd have killed my parents BEFORE I moved back in with them. Just sayin'.

-Suu
Not the best source for such things.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: LMNO on November 24, 2009, 02:44:14 PM
The more I meet people, the more I realize how utterly weird it is to have the non-combatative, non-passive/aggressive, stable parent/child relationship that I do.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2009, 03:00:09 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 24, 2009, 02:44:14 PM
The more I meet people, the more I realize how utterly weird it is to have the non-combatative, non-passive/aggressive, stable parent/child relationship that I do.

Me, too.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Suu on November 24, 2009, 03:37:50 PM
Oh I love my parents, and I equally love living 1300 miles away from them.  I had a good childhood, but I hit that point in my adulthood that I knew if I had to move back in, things would be way too rough. Despite what they kept saying following the divorce announcement.

They already have my brother and sister living with them again, they don't really need me too. Christ, I'm almost 30.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2009, 03:41:01 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 24, 2009, 03:37:50 PM
Oh I love my parents, and I equally love living 1300 miles away from them.  I had a good childhood, but I hit that point in my adulthood that I knew if I had to move back in, things would be way too rough. Despite what they kept saying following the divorce announcement.

They already have my brother and sister living with them again, they don't really need me too. Christ, I'm almost 30.

Freeky's in a bit of a bad spot.  She left a (verbally) abusive guy, and wound up in another verbally abusive environment, basically because this is Tucson and there's no work and literally nowhere else to go.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Suu on November 24, 2009, 03:51:11 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2009, 03:41:01 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 24, 2009, 03:37:50 PM
Oh I love my parents, and I equally love living 1300 miles away from them.  I had a good childhood, but I hit that point in my adulthood that I knew if I had to move back in, things would be way too rough. Despite what they kept saying following the divorce announcement.

They already have my brother and sister living with them again, they don't really need me too. Christ, I'm almost 30.

Freeky's in a bit of a bad spot.  She left a (verbally) abusive guy, and wound up in another verbally abusive environment, basically because this is Tucson and there's no work and literally nowhere else to go.

I understand. I left an emotionally abusive relationship to move into a house with people who pretend their my parents and attempt to get into my boyfriend's pants. Fortunately I'm not a pushover. I don't put up with people talking shit about me, even if they're my own parents.

I think it's time for her to stand up for herself, and if I have to fly out to Tucson so that you and I can show her how to do it RIGHT (meaning, not landing in jail) then I'll do it.

Freeky, follow my lead. The next time your mother or father are audibly saying stuff about you, make sure the kid is asleep, walk right up to them, drill-instructor close to them, and say, "Do you have a fucking problem with me?" Keep your hands at your side, don't ball fists, don't yell, just say it in a way that you mean business, but you're not threatening bodily harm.

Guaranteed they will back right off, because if they can't say this shit to your face, that means that they are nonconfrontational people, and nonconfrontational people HATE being, well, confronted.

You let them know that you appreciate everything they have done for you, but you feel that you'd be better off living in a box under a fucking bridge than with those trolls. Tell them they are creating a negative experience for their grandson...whatever it takes. Buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords. Shake them up.

I made Herbert burst into tears using this method. And if you've ever seen a 6'2" Puerto Rican cry, it's quite the sight.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2009, 03:57:17 PM
Concur.

Problem is, Freeky is non-confrontational, and though I do not doubt she has the guts to do it (hell, she had the stones to walk out of a bad relationship), she'd likely lose her composure in the process, which might damage the effect...or maybe enhance it.

She's kinda fucked.  She had a 169% self-absorbed BF, and she (apparently) has two completely self-absorbed parents.  I can confirm the BF part, but I don't know the parents well enough to make the second clause of that statement with any degree of certainty (Freeky has never lied to me or anyone else that I know of, but I don't know if she's seeing this accurately).

Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Suu on November 24, 2009, 03:59:41 PM
Then she should practice. Do it in the mirror a few times til she's comfortable with it and then go for it. The fact that she herself may be non-confrontational makes it even better, because her parents won't expect it.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2009, 04:01:16 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 24, 2009, 03:59:41 PM
Then she should practice. Do it in the mirror a few times til she's comfortable with it and then go for it. The fact that she herself may be non-confrontational makes it even better, because her parents won't expect it.

Plus, if she gets upset, there are two possible solution sets:

1.  Her parents wake up to the fact that they're being shits to their own kid, or

2.  Her parents dog on her, in which case all of her questions have been answered.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Suu on November 24, 2009, 04:05:00 PM
Well, if one of them swing first, then it IS self-defense to retaliate...
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2009, 04:07:30 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 24, 2009, 04:05:00 PM
Well, if one of them swing first, then it IS self-defense to retaliate...

I don't think that's really a risk, and NOBODY wants to fall afoul of AZ domestic abuse laws.  Not Freeky, not her BF, not her parents.

Frankly, I think you're right, though.  This can't go on.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Suu on November 24, 2009, 04:19:12 PM
Also, the next time her mom gets melodramatic, feed the fire.

"Ohhh I just want my life to end!"

- "Shall I go get the gun, mother?"

"I can't afford to keep doing this!"

- "Then maybe you should get rid of the dog if you can't afford to feed it shoes anymore."



...of course this is the shit that got me thrown out the first time. But my mom is actually bipolar and has actually taken swings at me while manic prior to her being medicated. Her's just sounds like a selfish cunt.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2009, 04:24:23 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 24, 2009, 04:19:12 PM
Also, the next time her mom gets melodramatic, feed the fire.

"Ohhh I just want my life to end!"

- "Shall I go get the gun, mother?"

"I can't afford to keep doing this!"

- "Then maybe you should get rid of the dog if you can't afford to feed it shoes anymore."



...of course this is the shit that got me thrown out the first time. But my mom is actually bipolar and has actually taken swings at me while manic prior to her being medicated. Her's just sounds like a selfish cunt.

Again, I don't know her mother well enough to say.  I do know that Freeky is very unhappy, though.  Her situation is bleak, but not unrepairable (though she may have to make some very hard stands on things like child support, etc).

In my inexpert opinion, she needs to get away from both situations.  In her shoes, I'd find a roomie and start over.  ANY job, combined with child support (her ex is self-absorbed, but not a complete ass) ought to let her hold up her end, especially if she can get more than one roommate.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Suu on November 24, 2009, 04:46:37 PM
Unfortunately stress is blinding. She sounds smart enough to know all of this though, unlike other people I know.


I told a friend of mine who is currently living out of one bedroom with his wife and newborn son in his wife's mother's house to get a job at McDonald's or something, ASAP. He told me no, because his wife won't let him because "he's better than that."

He doesn't have one. She doesn't have one, and dropped out of college because "She didn't like it". She keeps trying to get him diagnosed with all sorts of mental illnesses to see if they can qualify for disability or something. They live on food stamps, bitch that her brother eats whatever they buy in the fridge, and yet still go out to Friendly's for pancakes with whatever money he makes selling Jedi robes.

Yes. Jedi robes. That's what he makes. They live vicariously through the fact that they have friends who are willing to help them out, because they are such "high standing people in the Rebel Legion". Which, by the way, gets you nothing on your resume. I've tried. We're all getting sick of this song and dance. At first we were like, "Okay, they had a kid, let's help them out." but now it's, "Ugh, they're using that fucking sprog for handouts again."

I'm sorry, I hate my job, but it's a fucking job in a state that doesn't have many of them left. If I had a kid and was constantly bitching about living in one room by the grace of god in someone else's house where I didn't have to pay rent or bills, I'd be pounding the pavement EVERY FUCKING HOUR OF THE DAY looking for ANYTHING. There is no job too fail for the want of supporting my child and trying to get him a better life. Shit, I'd work at both McDonald's and Wendy's if I had to. But he won't, because wifey says, "You have Asperger's and you need to go on disability and you're too good for those jobs anyway." all the time.

And now they want to have another kid.

I hate people.



FREEKY! GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN!!
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2009, 04:50:35 PM
Ugh.  Well, Freeky isn't like that.  She WANTS to work, hell, she'd swamp out bathrooms if she had to, there's just no jobs here.  Not exaggerating about that.  This town's unemployement is "officially" at 12%, but reported at an actual 38%.

38%.

No wonder everyone is going nuts. 
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Suu on November 24, 2009, 05:00:40 PM
http://www.snagajob.com/job-seeker/jobs/search-results.aspx?postalCode=&city=tucson&stateProvCode=AZ&radius=20&keywords=&adv=true

Hourly jobs in Tucson.

Have you taken a look at her resume? Maybe we can polish it up for her.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2009, 05:05:40 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 24, 2009, 05:00:40 PM
http://www.snagajob.com/job-seeker/jobs/search-results.aspx?postalCode=&city=tucson&stateProvCode=AZ&radius=20&keywords=&adv=true

Hourly jobs in Tucson.

Have you taken a look at her resume? Maybe we can polish it up for her.

Can't see that (websense).

However, I can say that most hourly jobs are hiring at 10 hours a week (ask Von Melee and Nivek about that), and that Tucson is 40 miles across (we have a bus system, though).

Lastly, she's still applying, AFAIK.  And no, I haven't seen her resume.  I could always give it the Roger Treatment, especially if a few of us are willing to be her last few bosses (she's quite young, was pregnant early, and has spent the last two years as a homemaker, but there's no need for a potential employer to not know that she's actually spent that time doing something really, really well, if ya dig).
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Freeky on November 24, 2009, 05:08:03 PM
And lets not forget, my mom won't watch him all the time if I manage to snag a full time job.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2009, 05:09:59 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on November 24, 2009, 05:08:03 PM
And lets not forget, my mom won't watch him all the time if I manage to snag a full time job.

I've already located a few state-subsized daycare centers in your area.  Gonna be a bitch til you get a car, though.  If you get something, I could probably loan you the van for a while, until you can afford a beater.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Freeky on November 24, 2009, 05:13:07 PM
A friend of mine says that the waiting list for the DES ones, dunno if they're the same, is a year long. And my mom is going to talk to my grandma about using some policy thing that was supposed to be for education to go towards a car. She thought it was a 20 year policy, so there may be some money in there.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2009, 05:14:28 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on November 24, 2009, 05:13:07 PM
A friend of mine says that the waiting list for the DES ones, dunno if they're the same, is a year long.

Check for yourself.  Also, if the list is a year long, best to sign up asap, yes?


Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Suu on November 24, 2009, 05:21:18 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2009, 05:05:40 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 24, 2009, 05:00:40 PM
http://www.snagajob.com/job-seeker/jobs/search-results.aspx?postalCode=&city=tucson&stateProvCode=AZ&radius=20&keywords=&adv=true

Hourly jobs in Tucson.

Have you taken a look at her resume? Maybe we can polish it up for her.

Can't see that (websense).

However, I can say that most hourly jobs are hiring at 10 hours a week (ask Von Melee and Nivek about that), and that Tucson is 40 miles across (we have a bus system, though).

Lastly, she's still applying, AFAIK.  And no, I haven't seen her resume.  I could always give it the Roger Treatment, especially if a few of us are willing to be her last few bosses (she's quite young, was pregnant early, and has spent the last two years as a homemaker, but there's no need for a potential employer to not know that she's actually spent that time doing something really, really well, if ya dig).

Did she graduate high school?

Obviously she can type. She worked for me as a data entry clerk for 2 years after her kid was born.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Suu on November 24, 2009, 05:22:51 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2009, 05:14:28 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on November 24, 2009, 05:13:07 PM
A friend of mine says that the waiting list for the DES ones, dunno if they're the same, is a year long.

Check for yourself.  Also, if the list is a year long, best to sign up asap, yes?




This.

Sign up now. You never know, and the longer you wait, the longer your wait will be.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2009, 05:24:53 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 24, 2009, 05:21:18 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2009, 05:05:40 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 24, 2009, 05:00:40 PM
http://www.snagajob.com/job-seeker/jobs/search-results.aspx?postalCode=&city=tucson&stateProvCode=AZ&radius=20&keywords=&adv=true

Hourly jobs in Tucson.

Have you taken a look at her resume? Maybe we can polish it up for her.

Can't see that (websense).

However, I can say that most hourly jobs are hiring at 10 hours a week (ask Von Melee and Nivek about that), and that Tucson is 40 miles across (we have a bus system, though).

Lastly, she's still applying, AFAIK.  And no, I haven't seen her resume.  I could always give it the Roger Treatment, especially if a few of us are willing to be her last few bosses (she's quite young, was pregnant early, and has spent the last two years as a homemaker, but there's no need for a potential employer to not know that she's actually spent that time doing something really, really well, if ya dig).

Did she graduate high school?

Obviously she can type. She worked for me as a data entry clerk for 2 years after her kid was born.

I happen to know that her 10 key needs work, but that can be remedied.  She could have worked for me as a typist.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Suu on November 24, 2009, 05:30:23 PM
The jobs were through a temp agency. Hence why she has sporadic work experience.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2009, 05:31:46 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 24, 2009, 05:30:23 PM
The jobs were through a temp agency. Hence why she has sporadic work experience.

Naw, I could even get my boss on board with this.  He'll do anything to get me to leave his office. 

:lulz:
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Freeky on November 24, 2009, 05:34:30 PM
 :cry: I luffles you all...
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Cain on November 24, 2009, 05:35:05 PM
Temp agencies are fucking leeches on the arse of society.  In my experience with them, anyway. They are probably better in the US, but here they actually use the term "gangmaster" as a badge of honour still.

I'm guessing this is mostly useless advice, given the crowd you are now in with, but in my experience the best way to find a job is through your friends and social network.  I spent 11 months cranking out well over a thousand job applications and, in the end, what got me back into work was my (now) boss knowing my girlfriend and their newest job applicant (who beat me to the previous position, barely) quitting.  Namedropping and getting your friends to sing your praises to potential employers are both methods I would not hesitate to use in the quest for work.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2009, 05:35:42 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on November 24, 2009, 05:34:30 PM
:cry: I luffles you all...

Pffft.  The world's full of assholes.  Sometimes it's nice to do something nice for someone who isn't an asshole.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2009, 05:36:12 PM
Quote from: Cain on November 24, 2009, 05:35:05 PM
Temp agencies are fucking leeches on the arse of society.  In my experience with them, anyway.

This.

Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Freeky on November 24, 2009, 05:38:42 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2009, 05:35:42 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on November 24, 2009, 05:34:30 PM
:cry: I luffles you all...

Pffft.  The world's full of assholes.  Sometimes it's nice to do something nice for someone who isn't an asshole.

Perhaps, but that only makes it more appreciable.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Suu on November 24, 2009, 05:45:37 PM
I wonder if Roger has ever been called for a reference on me.  :lulz:  I know Richter has, and we all know how that ended.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2009, 05:46:48 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 24, 2009, 05:45:37 PM
I wonder if Roger has ever been called for a reference on me.  :lulz:  I know Richter has, and we all know how that ended.

No, I have not.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on November 24, 2009, 05:50:17 PM
Arizona has a fairly well spread out domestic violence network to help.  It was one of the locations offered to me through victim's assistance when we left Florida.  They had a fairly nice transitional housing program at that time.

Or you can call a local women's shelter to get more information.  Most also offer programs and meetings just for support and encouragement.

This is a crappy situation, I'm not saying otherwise, but....

You can't just take the crap from your parents.  You don't need to go postal, you just need to stand up for yourself.  You have a child.  If you can't do it for yourself, do it for your child.  

If you cannot continue to live there, then go to a shelter.  No they aren't pretty.  In fact it will be a really fast wake up to reality call, but you have to choose your own evils.  

The kids and I lived in shelters and housing programs for almost 3 years.  It wasn't where I wanted to be or what I wanted for them or me, but it was what needed to be done.  The alternative being to have the shit beat out of you on a regular basis by your father or get yourself killed by an idiotic vengeful ex.  
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2009, 05:58:08 PM
Khara, are you still in AZ?  I can't remember if I asked you that.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Freeky on November 24, 2009, 05:59:46 PM
Actual domestic violence is one thing I've never had to deal with, I'm glad to say.

I know that standing up for myself will only result in a) my mom breaking down in tears, because I made her feel bad, b) my mom AND my dad going absolutely batshit berserk and it WILL start a shouting match, or c) they go batshit berserk first and then my mom cries. And then I get threatened with getting kicked out. And then I buckle, because I don't have any kind of survival ability. I know these things from when I was still just a teenager, but I think maybe I might not buckle because I was even more sheeplike then than I am now.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2009, 06:02:36 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on November 24, 2009, 05:59:46 PM
Actual domestic violence is one thing I've never had to deal with, I'm glad to say.

Yeah, like I said, your ex isn't a complete ass.

Quote from: Mistress Freeky on November 24, 2009, 05:59:46 PM
I know that standing up for myself will only result in a) my mom breaking down in tears, because I made her feel bad, b) my mom AND my dad going absolutely batshit berserk and it WILL start a shouting match, or c) they go batshit berserk first and then my mom cries. And then I get threatened with getting kicked out. And then I buckle, because I don't have any kind of survival ability. I know these things from when I was still just a teenager, but I think maybe I might not buckle because I was even more sheeplike then than I am now.

Have a potential exit strategy lined up before you take any action, is my advice.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Suu on November 24, 2009, 06:05:56 PM
Let her cry. Let her feel bad. In fact, make her feel WORSE.

Have that exit strategy, and then pull the, "You're terrible grandparents and I hope my son doesn't grow up to hate you" card. Watch their heads implode.

-Suu
is a fucking vengeful cold-hearted BITCH.

Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2009, 06:08:14 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 24, 2009, 06:05:56 PM
Let her cry. Let her feel bad. In fact, make her feel WORSE.

Have that exit strategy, and then pull the, "You're terrible grandparents and I hope my son doesn't grow up to hate you" card. Watch their heads implode.

-Suu
is a fucking vengeful cold-hearted BITCH.



Yeah, but she needs the exit strategy first. 
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Freeky on November 24, 2009, 06:10:02 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 24, 2009, 06:05:56 PM
Let her cry. Let her feel bad. In fact, make her feel WORSE.

Have that exit strategy, and then pull the, "You're terrible grandparents and I hope my son doesn't grow up to hate you" card. Watch their heads implode.

Ah, but I couldn't do that, and there was a rant in me yesterday that didn't get out cuz I wasn't near a computer when the words were flowing through my head that explains why. I'll have to try and get that down, too...

Even if I did have the exit strategy.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Suu on November 24, 2009, 06:10:54 PM
Oh yes, don't do anything until you have that out, then unleash hell.


In other news,  I think I made Herbert cry again today on Facebook when I told him basically that his mother was a piece of shit for not wanting to spend any holidays with him as usual. He told me thanks for rubbing it in.  :|

I am, after all, a professional, and I'm also jealous I don't get any pork shoulder this year for Thanksgiving.

Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Suu on November 24, 2009, 06:12:09 PM
Either way, there will be ways for them to get what they deserve. Some more subtle than others.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2009, 06:15:57 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 24, 2009, 06:10:54 PM
In other news,  I think I made Herbert cry again today on Facebook

WIN.

TGRR,
Had Sister Gothique's wussy ex-BF crying on Myspace not once but twice.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on November 24, 2009, 06:17:19 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2009, 05:58:08 PM
Khara, are you still in AZ?  I can't remember if I asked you that.

No.  We were only there for a couple of weeks.  Then we were moved to NV, then on to VA and finally in MO.  I'm still here in St. Louis.

Quote from: Mistress Freeky on November 24, 2009, 05:59:46 PM

Actual domestic violence is one thing I've never had to deal with, I'm glad to say.

I know that standing up for myself will only result in a) my mom breaking down in tears, because I made her feel bad, b) my mom AND my dad going absolutely batshit berserk and it WILL start a shouting match, or c) they go batshit berserk first and then my mom cries. And then I get threatened with getting kicked out. And then I buckle, because I don't have any kind of survival ability. I know these things from when I was still just a teenager, but I think maybe I might not buckle because I was even more sheeplike then than I am now.

Well, just keep in mind that verbal abuse is considered a form of domestic violence when it comes from a significant other or someone who determines your physical and emotional welfare.  So with what you have said, you are eligible for a domestic violence shelter.  While you may not be able to press charges, they can still help you a great deal.  With a job, a car, a place to live.  The good ones can even help you go out to the local migrant camp and get you a license, green card and birth certificate saying you are Maria Rosa Rodriguez.......

You always have to have an exit strategy.  You need a bag with a couple changes of clothing for you and your child.  Birth certificates, social security cards, shot records for you child.  A passport if you have one.  Any extra money you can stash away.  Bus schedules, local shelter numbers, a pay as you go cell phone that is ready to activate.  
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: LMNO on November 24, 2009, 06:21:42 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 24, 2009, 06:10:54 PM


I am, after all, a professional, and I'm also jealous I don't get any pork shoulder this year for Thanksgiving.




Guess what my mom requested I make for Thanksgiving this year?
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Freeky on November 24, 2009, 06:23:42 PM
Quote from: Khara on November 24, 2009, 06:17:19 PM
You always have to have an exit strategy.  You need a bag with a couple changes of clothing for you and your child.  Birth certificates, social security cards, shot records for you child.  A passport if you have one.  Any extra money you can stash away.  Bus schedules, local shelter numbers, a pay as you go cell phone that is ready to activate.  

I'll remember that.

Quote from: LMNO on November 24, 2009, 06:21:42 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 24, 2009, 06:10:54 PM


I am, after all, a professional, and I'm also jealous I don't get any pork shoulder this year for Thanksgiving.




Guess what my mom requested I make for Thanksgiving this year?
Pork shoulder?
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Suu on November 24, 2009, 06:32:09 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 24, 2009, 06:21:42 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 24, 2009, 06:10:54 PM


I am, after all, a professional, and I'm also jealous I don't get any pork shoulder this year for Thanksgiving.




Guess what my mom requested I make for Thanksgiving this year?

:crankey:
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2009, 06:34:35 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 24, 2009, 06:32:09 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 24, 2009, 06:21:42 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 24, 2009, 06:10:54 PM


I am, after all, a professional, and I'm also jealous I don't get any pork shoulder this year for Thanksgiving.




Guess what my mom requested I make for Thanksgiving this year?

:crankey:

Ho ho!  All is not well in the Swamp Yankee Occupied Zone.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Freeky on November 24, 2009, 06:46:30 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2009, 06:34:35 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 24, 2009, 06:32:09 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 24, 2009, 06:21:42 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 24, 2009, 06:10:54 PM


I am, after all, a professional, and I'm also jealous I don't get any pork shoulder this year for Thanksgiving.




Guess what my mom requested I make for Thanksgiving this year?

:crankey:

Ho ho!  All is not well in the Swamp Yankee Occupied Zone.

Swamp Yankee? That sounds dangerous and undead
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Suu on November 24, 2009, 06:50:37 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on November 24, 2009, 06:46:30 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2009, 06:34:35 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 24, 2009, 06:32:09 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 24, 2009, 06:21:42 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 24, 2009, 06:10:54 PM


I am, after all, a professional, and I'm also jealous I don't get any pork shoulder this year for Thanksgiving.




Guess what my mom requested I make for Thanksgiving this year?

:crankey:

Ho ho!  All is not well in the Swamp Yankee Occupied Zone.

Swamp Yankee? That sounds dangerous and undead

Swamp Yankee is a term for a New England redneck.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2009, 06:51:44 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 24, 2009, 06:50:37 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on November 24, 2009, 06:46:30 PM


Swamp Yankee? That sounds dangerous and undead

Swamp Yankee is a term for a New England redneck.

So, yes.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Freeky on November 24, 2009, 07:12:18 PM
Sounds like they'd be the prey of deep south rednecks, in the natural order of things.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: LMNO on November 24, 2009, 07:15:05 PM
Hey now.  Best not to step and/or test.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2009, 07:16:40 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on November 24, 2009, 07:12:18 PM
Sounds like they'd be the prey of deep south rednecks, in the natural order of things.

That's what the Hebrews Confederates though.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Freeky on November 24, 2009, 07:21:50 PM
Quote from: LMNO on November 24, 2009, 07:15:05 PM
Hey now.  Best not to step and/or test.

Ah used to be one of them thair deep suth'ners, butt I got ed-yew-caeted in hows Ah'm spozed to act round city folk afore it were too late.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Suu on November 24, 2009, 07:32:47 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on November 24, 2009, 07:12:18 PM
Sounds like they'd be the prey of deep south rednecks, in the natural order of things.

You might be surprised. You've never seen a Foster-Gloucester Swamp Yankee. OOOOOHHHH WEEEEE.

Looking for pictures, I just found a great blog: http://swampyankeesfromouterspace.blogspot.com/

Mostly on gardening and stuff in Southern Rhode Island. Lol South County ftw, the perfect mix of beach bum/swamp yankee hybrids!
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Freeky on November 24, 2009, 08:52:37 PM
Well, I'm off to apply at a call center, recommended to me by my ex. Wish me luck...
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: East Coast Hustle on November 24, 2009, 08:56:55 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on November 24, 2009, 07:12:18 PM
Sounds like they'd be the prey of deep south rednecks, in the natural order of things.

hey now...New England rednecks are FAR superior to deep south rednecks, if any sort of redneck can be said to be "superior".
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 24, 2009, 09:06:08 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on November 24, 2009, 08:52:37 PM
Well, I'm off to apply at a call center, recommended to me by my ex. Wish me luck...

Good luck.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Freeky on November 24, 2009, 11:01:01 PM
They aren't hiring till January. :/ And my grandma said no to changing in whatever policy thing it is for money so I can get a car.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Richter on November 25, 2009, 01:06:07 AM
The Sex Pistols did it better.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Suu on November 25, 2009, 05:09:09 AM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on November 24, 2009, 11:01:01 PM
They aren't hiring till January. :/ And my grandma said no to changing in whatever policy thing it is for money so I can get a car.

Apply anyway. Getting resumes out there will still show that you're interested.

Also, even if Roger was right and those retail places around there are only hiring for 10 hours a week, get 2 jobs. 3 if you can swing it, to get you through December. There is probably no shortage of holiday temp positions that need filling. Pound the pavement at the local mall. Get in on Macys or JCPenney, a lot of the department stores may keep you on after the Holidays and offer GREAT BENEFITS if you stay on long term.

Try also a pharmacy retailer. Yes, you will make minimum wage to start, but I worked for CVS for 3 months before open enrollment and got in on a great Blue Cross/Blue Shield package that was affordable and a special CVS prescription plan which really helped with my allergy and asthma costs. Things like benefits, especially when you have dependents, are really important.  I was also promoted pretty quickly to head cashier in about 6 months, then shift supervisor, and then assistant manager in the 2 years I worked with them. So the opportunities are there. But you gotta push. Places like that are always accepting applications and in the winter they go into overdrive, and a lot of times you won't even know they're hiring unless you openly ask. Those aren't positions you'll find on job boards or in a newspaper.

Corporations right now are the safest bet with employment, you'll get a steady paycheck, and you'll get solid benefits.  Just stay the FUCK away from Wal-Mart/Sam's Club, they purposely don't hire retail associates full-time so they don't have to offer benefits. High-power supermarkets and pharmacies are the way to go. People need food and drugs, so they aren't going under anytime soon.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Reginald Ret on November 25, 2009, 01:36:22 PM
This is all asuming you can outperform most of your future colleagues
You are smart and motivated enough so that shouldn't be a problem.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Freeky on November 25, 2009, 03:33:58 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 25, 2009, 05:09:09 AM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on November 24, 2009, 11:01:01 PM
They aren't hiring till January. :/ And my grandma said no to changing in whatever policy thing it is for money so I can get a car.

Apply anyway. Getting resumes out there will still show that you're interested.

Also, even if Roger was right and those retail places around there are only hiring for 10 hours a week, get 2 jobs. 3 if you can swing it, to get you through December. There is probably no shortage of holiday temp positions that need filling. Pound the pavement at the local mall. Get in on Macys or JCPenney, a lot of the department stores may keep you on after the Holidays and offer GREAT BENEFITS if you stay on long term.

Try also a pharmacy retailer. Yes, you will make minimum wage to start, but I worked for CVS for 3 months before open enrollment and got in on a great Blue Cross/Blue Shield package that was affordable and a special CVS prescription plan which really helped with my allergy and asthma costs. Things like benefits, especially when you have dependents, are really important.  I was also promoted pretty quickly to head cashier in about 6 months, then shift supervisor, and then assistant manager in the 2 years I worked with them. So the opportunities are there. But you gotta push. Places like that are always accepting applications and in the winter they go into overdrive, and a lot of times you won't even know they're hiring unless you openly ask. Those aren't positions you'll find on job boards or in a newspaper.

Corporations right now are the safest bet with employment, you'll get a steady paycheck, and you'll get solid benefits.  Just stay the FUCK away from Wal-Mart/Sam's Club, they purposely don't hire retail associates full-time so they don't have to offer benefits. High-power supermarkets and pharmacies are the way to go. People need food and drugs, so they aren't going under anytime soon.

I never thought about CVS and places like that. Thanks.
I don't even think Walmart is hiring period right now. And here, getting a job at the supermarket is kind of scary cuz of Unuions. If you don't go on strike when they do, you run the risk of getting beat the snot out of every time you cross the picket line. And it does happen, I remember it happened a year or two ago.
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Freeky on November 25, 2009, 03:36:22 PM
Quote from: Regret on November 25, 2009, 01:36:22 PM
This is all asuming you can outperform most of your future colleagues
You are smart and motivated enough so that shouldn't be a problem.

:D
Title: Re: Can I go Columbine Kid yet?
Post by: Suu on November 25, 2009, 03:37:16 PM
I'm not going to lie, I never really LIKED working at CVS, but if it wasn't for those benefits E. Coli and Mono would have been a lot harder to deal with.  :x