http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF6I5VSZVqc
Hell yeah, I could get behind this guy, despite the fact he's a christfag.
I'd have gone to church if I could have listened to that guy speak.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 01:47:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF6I5VSZVqc
Hell yeah, I could get behind this guy, despite the fact he's a christfag.
When did you turn into such a bigot?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 07, 2009, 01:56:45 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 01:47:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF6I5VSZVqc
Hell yeah, I could get behind this guy, despite the fact he's a christfag.
When did you turn into such a bigot?
I'm not a bigot, I just have higher standards then most people I hate.
Sounds like he's got the right idea about things...too bad all of the commenters are all asshats.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 01:59:41 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 07, 2009, 01:56:45 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 01:47:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF6I5VSZVqc
Hell yeah, I could get behind this guy, despite the fact he's a christfag.
When did you turn into such a bigot?
I'm not a bigot, I just have higher standards then most people I hate.
Yes, actually, you are. You hate Christians, and seem to have nothing but disdain for homosexuals.
In short, you are in fact a bigot.
Quote from: Zenpeanut on December 07, 2009, 02:08:08 AM
Sounds like he's got the right idea about things...too bad all of the commenters are all asshats.
Yeah, it's funny how all those christians get told by an actual bishop the really real truth and they start going apeshit over it.
This is why you can't bring people out of the matrix past a certain age.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:10:12 AM
This is why you can't bring people out of the matrix past a certain age.
:genius:
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 01:47:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF6I5VSZVqc
NO SHIT SPANKY
NOW STFU AND GO MOLEST SOME CHILDREN
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 07, 2009, 02:09:37 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 01:59:41 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 07, 2009, 01:56:45 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 01:47:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF6I5VSZVqc
Hell yeah, I could get behind this guy, despite the fact he's a christfag.
When did you turn into such a bigot?
I'm not a bigot, I just have higher standards then most people I hate.
Yes, actually, you are. You hate Christians, and seem to have nothing but disdain for homosexuals.
In short, you are in fact a bigot.
:roll:
Yup, you got me spot on there Rog.
Seriously, you're calling me out on being a bigot for using a word that in many peoples vocabularies is a pejorative for homosexuals?
Fair enough, it's a fair point, I can see how some might take it to mean that way.
Personally, I've always seen Fag as a handy pejorative for any asshole I don't like, homosexual or not, most usually people who are homophobic.
Sorry if this somehow offends you or makes you think I'm bigoted, I just thought that most people here, you of all people, should know that thinking fag explicitly means disdain against homosexuals is as stupid as thinking that Cunt is the devils word.
This may be cliche to say, but I've got gay friends, quite a few of them, and I've had sex with a guy, I'm pretty sure I don't have disdain for homosexuals.
But you are right about one thing.
I hate Christians, but it's ok, if they're real christians, they will forgive me, so no harm done there.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 07, 2009, 02:12:14 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:10:12 AM
This is why you can't bring people out of the matrix past a certain age.
:genius:
Seriously? Is this what this has come down to?
Comparing me to him, for making a matrix observation joke?
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:20:22 AM
But you are right about one thing.
I hate Christians, but it's ok, if they're real christians, they will forgive me, so no harm done there.
So you're a bigot, just as bad as the stereotypical bigoted Calvinist. I fail to see the disconnect, here.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 07, 2009, 02:25:34 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:20:22 AM
But you are right about one thing.
I hate Christians, but it's ok, if they're real christians, they will forgive me, so no harm done there.
So you're a bigot, just as bad as the stereotypical bigoted Calvinist. I fail to see the disconnect, here.
...
You're fucking with me, right?
You, the living hate master, giving me shit for JOKING about hating certain people?
Is it late where you are? Do you need some pills to calm you down?]
Cus seriously, if you're not fucking with me, then go fuck yourself TGRR, I thought you were better then this.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:28:15 AM
You're fucking with me, right?
Not really.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:28:15 AM
You, the living hate master, giving me shit for JOKING about hating certain people?
Absolutely. Mine is a pure hate, a righteous hate. Yours is a small, weak hate, which can seemingly encompass people based on religious grounds. It is an inferior hate.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:28:15 AM
Is it late where you are? Do you need some pills to calm you down?
Very weak. It's like you're not even trying.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:28:15 AM
Cus seriously, if you're not fucking with me, then go fuck yourself TGRR, I thought you were better then this.
You mean you thought I was a bigot, too?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 07, 2009, 02:34:48 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:28:15 AM
You're fucking with me, right?
Not really.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:28:15 AM
You, the living hate master, giving me shit for JOKING about hating certain people?
Absolutely. Mine is a pure hate, a righteous hate. Yours is a small, weak hate, which can seemingly encompass people based on religious grounds. It is an inferior hate.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:28:15 AM
Is it late where you are? Do you need some pills to calm you down?
Very weak. It's like you're not even trying.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:28:15 AM
Cus seriously, if you're not fucking with me, then go fuck yourself TGRR, I thought you were better then this.
You mean you thought I was a bigot, too?
Yeah, go fuck yourself TGRR.
You used to make sense, but now you're just a fucking parody of the hate-master I once respected.
Since theres only pseudo-religious people these days, they only evoke pseudo-disdain from me.
Hell, if the population had the balls to admit it and took the time to think it, id say most would say they are actually agnostic.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:37:05 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 07, 2009, 02:34:48 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:28:15 AM
You're fucking with me, right?
Not really.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:28:15 AM
You, the living hate master, giving me shit for JOKING about hating certain people?
Absolutely. Mine is a pure hate, a righteous hate. Yours is a small, weak hate, which can seemingly encompass people based on religious grounds. It is an inferior hate.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:28:15 AM
Is it late where you are? Do you need some pills to calm you down?
Very weak. It's like you're not even trying.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:28:15 AM
Cus seriously, if you're not fucking with me, then go fuck yourself TGRR, I thought you were better then this.
You mean you thought I was a bigot, too?
Yeah, go fuck yourself TGRR.
You used to make sense, but now you're just a fucking parody of the hate-master I once respected.
That's one possibility. The other possibility is that I'm saying the exact same thing, and you just can't process it because you've cooked your brain with substandard drugs. I have
never espoused hating on one particular group of humans, as that:
1. Sucks you into their game (congratulations, Lys, you're a monkey.), and
2. Distracts you from hating all humans as the fucked up monkeys they are.
I am sorry that your continuing drug abuse has left you with Keith Richard's brain, because I'm kind of thinking that the distinction I've drawn is now beyond you.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 07, 2009, 02:41:09 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:37:05 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 07, 2009, 02:34:48 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:28:15 AM
You're fucking with me, right?
Not really.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:28:15 AM
You, the living hate master, giving me shit for JOKING about hating certain people?
Absolutely. Mine is a pure hate, a righteous hate. Yours is a small, weak hate, which can seemingly encompass people based on religious grounds. It is an inferior hate.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:28:15 AM
Is it late where you are? Do you need some pills to calm you down?
Very weak. It's like you're not even trying.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:28:15 AM
Cus seriously, if you're not fucking with me, then go fuck yourself TGRR, I thought you were better then this.
You mean you thought I was a bigot, too?
Yeah, go fuck yourself TGRR.
You used to make sense, but now you're just a fucking parody of the hate-master I once respected.
That's one possibility. The other possibility is that I'm saying the exact same thing, and you just can't process it because you've cooked your brain with substandard drugs. I have never espoused hating on one particular group of humans, as that:
1. Sucks you into their game (congratulations, Lys, you're a monkey.), and
2. Distracts you from hating all humans as the fucked up monkeys they are.
I am sorry that your continuing drug abuse has left you with Keith Richard's brain, because I'm kind of thinking that the distinction I've drawn is now beyond you.
Rog, I'm pissed cus I feel you've completely twisted and misappropriated where *I'm* coming from.
1. I hate all people equally, I don't give a fuck about what philosophical group you belong to, if you talk like, act like, and do like a fucking moron, I will hate you.
Right now, I feel like
you're acting like one of
those.2. I've been clean now for quite a while, thank you very much. Ok, sure, weekend before last I went to a 3 day party and took lots of drugs, but I'm sober right now and have been mostly for the past 3/4 of the year. Besides that, this has nothing to do with my mis-appropration of drug usage.
I don't think I've done anything wrong besides use a word that you're interpreting to mean that I hate homosexuals or something, and thinking that makes me a bigot.
No, actually, you know what, this is starting to make me think, maybe
you ARE the bigot. You're bigot against me, because I take sub-standard drugs and apparently have an inferior mind to yours.
Go fuck yourself.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:51:09 AM
Rog, I'm pissed cus I feel you've completely twisted and misappropriated where *I'm* coming from.
1. I hate all people equally, I don't give a fuck about what philosophical group you belong to, if you talk like, act like, and do like a fucking moron, I will hate you.
Actually, you specifically called off "Christfags", and implied that Christians are somehow subhuman.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:51:09 AM
Right now, I feel like you're acting like one of those.
I'm comfortable with that. The scorn of assholes is a benediction, and all. Especially when that scorn is driven by monkey impulses, leading to a whacking huge case of projection.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:51:09 AM
2. I've been clean now for quite a while, thank you very much. Ok, sure, weekend before last I went to a 3 day party and took lots of drugs, but I'm sober right now and have been mostly for the past 3/4 of the year. Besides that, this has nothing to do with my mis-appropration of drug usage.
Well, something has fucked your brain up, because I'm saying the same message I was saying 7 years ago.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:51:09 AM
I don't think I've done anything wrong besides use a word that you're interpreting to mean that I hate homosexuals or something, and thinking that makes me a bigot.
No, it's primarily the way you talk about Christians...as if your behavior were any different than theirs.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:51:09 AM
No, actually, you know what, this is starting to make me think, maybe you ARE the bigot. You're bigot against me, because I take sub-standard drugs and apparently have an inferior mind to yours.
A bigot against one person? :lulz:
Yeah, you've been clean for 9 months, except for a 3 day binge, and you're just fine. And I'm a bigot against one person.
Argle bargle schwartz.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:51:09 AM
Go fuck yourself.
Wait, no more "jokes" about my health? I'm disappointed.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 07, 2009, 02:59:15 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:51:09 AM
Rog, I'm pissed cus I feel you've completely twisted and misappropriated where *I'm* coming from.
1. I hate all people equally, I don't give a fuck about what philosophical group you belong to, if you talk like, act like, and do like a fucking moron, I will hate you.
Actually, you specifically called off "Christfags", and implied that Christians are somehow subhuman.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:51:09 AM
Right now, I feel like you're acting like one of those.
I'm comfortable with that. The scorn of assholes is a benediction, and all. Especially when that scorn is driven by monkey impulses, leading to a whacking huge case of projection.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:51:09 AM
2. I've been clean now for quite a while, thank you very much. Ok, sure, weekend before last I went to a 3 day party and took lots of drugs, but I'm sober right now and have been mostly for the past 3/4 of the year. Besides that, this has nothing to do with my mis-appropration of drug usage.
Well, something has fucked your brain up, because I'm saying the same message I was saying 7 years ago.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:51:09 AM
I don't think I've done anything wrong besides use a word that you're interpreting to mean that I hate homosexuals or something, and thinking that makes me a bigot.
No, it's primarily the way you talk about Christians...as if your behavior were any different than theirs.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:51:09 AM
No, actually, you know what, this is starting to make me think, maybe you ARE the bigot. You're bigot against me, because I take sub-standard drugs and apparently have an inferior mind to yours.
A bigot against one person? :lulz:
Yeah, you've been clean for 9 months, except for a 3 day binge, and you're just fine. And I'm a bigot against one person.
Argle bargle schwartz.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:51:09 AM
Go fuck yourself.
Wait, no more "jokes" about my health? I'm disappointed.
I wrote out a whole bunch of things I wanted to say, but I stopped and thought about it and realized, it doesn't matter what I say now, you've made up your mind, and there's nothing I can say that will convince you otherwise.
I feel you've completely misinterpreted what I'm saying, your ability to spin in a no spin zone would shame Bill O'Reilly.
I'm going to make some things clear, and I stand by these, and I don't give a fuck how you're going to spin it.
I'm not bigoted against christians, or homosexuals.
I hate everyone who is stupid equally. Including you, now.
I don't think I deserved any of that shit you said about me, at least, not for you what just said.
Yes, I say and do some dumb fucking things sometimes, I'll admit it, I'm not perfect, I don't claim to be, and when I do and say stupid shit, I appreciate being called out on it. I don't think this is one of those times where I should be called out for dumb shit. Right now, I think this is a time where I should be calling
YOU out on dumb shit.
I've given thought to what you've said, and I don't *think* I'm just reacting in this way because you're calling me out, I'm reacting in this way because I think you're just being a complete asshole for the sake of it.
You know I don't
specifically hate christians, you know I don't have any disdain against homosexuals, I'm a very liberal and secular person, as much as I hate having to use labels to define myself, and you saying that I am and being serious about it just makes me think you're on a completely different channel from the one I'm on.
Correct me if you think I'm wrong. I know you will.
And I apoligise about the blow with the medical thing, but seriously, I think you did the low blow first, and I'm just responding in kind.
Now I want a fucking apology, but who am I kidding, I know I'm not going to get it.
I only believe in hell
none of this heaven nonsense
Ok all joking aside I really like that video a lot, and probably will come to agree with it
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on December 07, 2009, 03:22:53 AM
I only believe in hell
none of this heaven nonsense
This.
Quote
Ok all joking aside I really like that video a lot, and probably will come to agree with it
Joke?
Anyway, fuck all this stupid shit.
My favorite quote from that Video is this:
"Maybe salvation needs to be conveyed in terms of enhancing your humanity, rather than rescuing you from it"
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 03:20:15 AM
I'm not bigoted against christians, or homosexuals.
Um.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:20:22 AM
But you are right about one thing.
I hate Christians, but it's ok, if they're real christians, they will forgive me, so no harm done there.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 03:20:15 AM
I hate everyone who is stupid equally. Including you, now.
Yes, because I took your saying "I hate Christians" to mean "I hate Christians". Yeah, that makes me pretty dumb.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 03:20:15 AM
I don't think I deserved any of that shit you said about me, at least, not for you what just said.
Why not? I need pills to survive, and according to you that's pretty funny, right, you miserable son of a bitch? :lulz:
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 03:20:15 AM
Yes, I say and do some dumb fucking things sometimes, I'll admit it, I'm not perfect, I don't claim to be, and when I do and say stupid shit, I appreciate being called out on it. I don't think this is one of those times where I should be called out for dumb shit. Right now, I think this is a time where I should be calling YOU out on dumb shit.
Yes, because I took your saying "I hate Christians" to mean "I hate Christians". Yeah, that makes me pretty dumb.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 03:20:15 AM
I've given thought to what you've said, and I don't *think* I'm just reacting in this way because you're calling me out, I'm reacting in this way because I think you're just being a complete asshole for the sake of it.
All I know is what you said. You said you hated Christians. I called you on that, so you mocked my for my medical issues and then started screeching that I'm both stupid and a bigot for hating on one guy (???).
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 03:20:15 AM
You know I don't specifically hate christians,
You said, plain as day, that you do in fact hate Christians. Shall I quote it again? I mean, that would give you a chance to dig on me for medical problems again, right? But no, I'm the asshole here. You miserable fucked up little asswipe.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 03:20:15 AM
And I apoligise about the blow with the medical thing,
Too fucking late. You fucking did that on purpose, so you get put on the same level as Badges, which you may understand is somewhere just below whale shit.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 03:20:15 AM
Now I want a fucking apology, but who am I kidding, I know I'm not going to get it.
I think you're probably right. I think the chances of that disappeared about 3 posts back. In fact, I think the odds of you and I ever having a friendly exchange evaporated in precisely the same manner as they did with Badges. You're the same kind of scum.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 03:24:41 AM
Joke?
Well it seems on the interwebs the God debate has been on overdrive the last few years and has just fallen into childish name calling - which is all fun and games of course, but it's really nice to hear a much more mature (I'm not commenting on his physical age of course) voice. Reminds me of my grandfathers beliefs.
I dont intend to get involved on the issue beyond saying that ive used the term "faggot" to deem something pejoratevely and im not homophobic.
Quote from: JohNyx on December 07, 2009, 03:38:24 AM
I dont intend to get involved on the issue beyond saying that ive used the term "faggot" to deem something pejoratevely and im not homophobic.
That was secondary to this:
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:20:22 AM
But you are right about one thing.
I hate Christians, but it's ok, if they're real christians, they will forgive me, so no harm done there.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 07, 2009, 03:51:56 AM
Quote from: JohNyx on December 07, 2009, 03:38:24 AM
I dont intend to get involved on the issue beyond saying that ive used the term "faggot" to deem something pejoratevely and im not homophobic.
That was secondary to this:
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 02:20:22 AM
But you are right about one thing.
I hate Christians, but it's ok, if they're real christians, they will forgive me, so no harm done there.
Ok, I'm not going to bother wasting my time and in dignifying myself responding to everything you last replied with.
But I get where your main issue is now, and now I'm certain you are a fucked up idiot.
What I said was a joke.
A fucking JOKE.
I was taking what you said and doing Reductio ad absurduim.
You failed to recognize that.
And that's all there is to it.
IF you still take what I just said as serious, then fuck you, you're right, you and I aren't going to get along anymore, because I can't even make a fucking joke without you thinking that I'm serious.
The fact is, I'm NOT a bigot, despite what your amazing detective skills might tell you, I don't hate *Christians*, I hate *PEOPLE* and that, that's me being serious.
And now, now I hate you, and theres no joke in there.
I've lost all respect for you now Rog.
See, the thing is, you and I, we agree, we are fucking in agreement, that being bigoted, being a homophobe, and hating *certain* groups of people for just being in a group is stupid.
Thing is, I can't make a joke about it without you thinking that it's not, and there is where our fall out seems to be.
So fuck you if you can't take a joke.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 04:01:44 AM
What I said was a joke.
A fucking JOKE.
Of course it was.
I gotta admit that, as ambiguous and poorly phrased as it was at first, the line about "it's OK, if they're really christians they'll forgive me for it" seemed awfully tongue-in-cheek.
And I've never known Lys to be a bigot.
However, I'd hate to get in the way of a good interfight.
Carry on, gentlemen.
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on December 07, 2009, 04:12:40 AM
I gotta admit that, as ambiguous and poorly phrased as it was at first, the line about "it's OK, if they're really christians they'll forgive me for it" seemed awfully tongue-in-cheek.
And I've never known Lys to be a bigot.
However, I'd hate to get in the way of a good interfight.
Carry on, gentlemen.
I'm just seeing how far his leg yanks out. Fucking thing is made of silly putty, apparently.
However, I'm still gonna hate him for the pills thing.
Apparently, admitting that it was a low blow, and apoligising for it, despite the fact it was in retaliation for a low blow that YOU started, is just not good enough for TGRR.
And I'm still going to hate Rog for completely mis-interpreting what I'm saying and calling me out on shit that just isn't true in the fucking SLIGHTEST.
No, this issue is clear and simple, Roger, you're a fucking asshole who NEEDS to be right, even when it's fucking clear that for once, you're in the wrong.
BTW, I'm willing to forgive and forget if he is, but somehow I doubt he has the ability or humility to do so.
Yes, we're monkeys flinging shit at each other, I can see that clearly, difference between me and roger is, I'm willing to try clean up the shit whereas he seems perfectly happy to continue flinging his shit and acting like a fucking primate.
Funny how often TGRR complains about so many people acting like fucking primates when it seems he can't seem to evolve past it himself.
Have fun living in your filth, monkey man messiah.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 07, 2009, 04:13:39 AM
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on December 07, 2009, 04:12:40 AM
I gotta admit that, as ambiguous and poorly phrased as it was at first, the line about "it's OK, if they're really christians they'll forgive me for it" seemed awfully tongue-in-cheek.
And I've never known Lys to be a bigot.
However, I'd hate to get in the way of a good interfight.
Carry on, gentlemen.
I'm just seeing how far his leg yanks out. Fucking thing is made of silly putty, apparently.
See, he admits it. He's TRYING to piss me off.
Congratulations, you've done it.
Hope it was worth it.
Oh, FFS people. Roger, Lys isn't a bigot. We both know it.
And Lys, John Shelby Spong is about as far from a "christfag" as a person can get. There are Unitarian Universalist ministers less liberal than he is. He also wrote a book called "Christianity Must Change or Die", which more or less calls for a revamping of the whole religion or getting rid of it all together. All around, a pretty cool okay guy, "for a christian". :roll:
Quote from: Kai on December 07, 2009, 04:51:37 AM
Oh, FFS people. Roger, Lys isn't a bigot. We both know it.
And Lys, John Shelby Spong is about as far from a "christfag" as a person can get. There are Unitarian Universalist ministers less liberal than he is. He also wrote a book called "Christianity Must Change or Die", which more or less calls for a revamping of the whole religion or getting rid of it all together. All around, a pretty cool okay guy, "for a christian". :roll:
You're right Kai, it probably isn't the best way to refer to the Bishop, but the intention behind using it was in a endearing, ironic post-modern way.
Maybe if I had said a "Christ-spag", would that have been as "Bigoted" for you, TGRR?
Cus to me, it means the same thing.
I like Jesus, I like spags and I like gays (That aren't being fags)
I just don't tend to like most people who like Jesus, sometimes I hate you spags and most times a fag is not gay.
But I don't hate all people who like Jesus, I mostly like most of you spags and sometimes, you can be a gay fag.
(http://zackfordblogs.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/South-Park-Gays-Against-Fags.JPG)
Suggestion: Don't use fag in public, or around me. Regardless of what you may think of it, when you use it even casually I tend to move in the opposite direction you are going.
Just because a gay man is less likely to knock your jaw out for saying fag than a black man for saying nigger doesn't mean its particularly sophisticated, or nice. Or any of those other things that have to do with mutual respect for people, or at least unbiased hatred for everyone.
Quote from: Kai on December 07, 2009, 05:10:39 AM
Suggestion: Don't use fag in public, or around me. Regardless of what you may think of it, when you use it even casually I tend to move in the opposite direction you are going.
Just because a gay man is less likely to knock your jaw out for saying fag than a black man for saying nigger doesn't mean its particularly sophisticated, or nice. Or any of those other things that have to do with mutual respect for people, or at least unbiased hatred for everyone.
Yeah, I respect where you're coming from Kai.
I don't normally use the word fag very often at all, as you might have noticed.
My very-occasional use of it has never been meant to put down gay or queer people.
I just see it as taking the word back, just as African Americans took the word Nigga back.
I mean, it's not the word itself that's a bad thing, so much as it is the *Intention* behind it, right?
The intention I have when using that word is just a general put down for anyone behaving like a complete asshole, particularly those who are homophobic, it seems to *really* get to them.
But, out of respect for you, dispite how trivial I personally feel the word is, I won't use it again around here.
Irony: Starting a topic with the intention of showing support for groups you don't normally support in general and being called a bigot.
Lys, you trying to "take back" the word "fag" by using it as a pejorative for other groups makes as much sense as Asians trying to "take back" "nigger" by using it as a pejorative for other groups.
In other words, no sense at all. Unless you somehow secretly think of yourself as a fag, which I guess would make sense of why you spend so much time trying to convince yourself and everyone else that you have enormous heterosexual appetites.
You cannot "take back" a word for a group of people you are not a part of by using it to insult unrelated groups of people. You can misappropriate it, but you cannot reclaim it because it was never used against you in the first place.
And you can't say "I hate Christians" and then claim that you didn't say you hate Christians. Nor make derogatory statements to people about pills and then claim you didn't mock them for being on medications. It's way better to own up and say "Yeah, I said that, I guess that was a shitty thing to say, I'm sorry" or even "Yeah, I said that, I guess I have a prejudice against Christians" than to try to pretend you didn't say it or that you meant something else.
I, personally, have a definite prejudice against Christians and it's hard for me to not be suspicious of anyone who claims to be Christian. I have overcome that prejudice for a couple of people but just because I have a couple of Christian friends doesn't mean I no longer carry that prejudice.
You'd think I'd be prejudiced against white people but I fucking love white people. Especially Jews. Go figure.
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on December 07, 2009, 06:13:07 AM
Lys, you trying to "take back" the word "fag" by using it as a pejorative for other groups makes as much sense as Asians trying to "take back" "nigger" by using it as a pejorative for other groups.
Sorry, I should have said, "Taking it back", with the quotation marks, I realise its a bit silly to take something back from something I wasn't the original target of.
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In other words, no sense at all. Unless you somehow secretly think of yourself as a fag, which I guess would make sense of why you spend so much time trying to convince yourself and everyone else that you have enormous heterosexual appetites.
Well really, what I try to convince people of (if that's what I'm trying to do) is that I have an enormous sexual appetite that's in favor towards women.
I've had sex with guys and I'm not afraid to admit it nor do I worry about it defining me, and I don't like trying to label what my sexuality is.
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You cannot "take back" a word for a group of people you are not a part of by using it to insult unrelated groups of people. You can misappropriate it, but you cannot reclaim it because it was never used against you in the first place.
Well, actually, it has been used against me but point remains.
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And you can't say "I hate Christians" and then claim that you didn't say you hate Christians.
When I said it, it was tongue in cheek, but yes, there is *some* truth in it, but I don't hate christians for being christians, I hate christians because most of them are fucking retarded hypocritical assholes, and I think of them the same way as I think of any retarded hypocritical assholes.
Honestly, I believe when it comes down to it, on judging people on their individual merits, not just because they're a "christian" or a "muslim" or a "Politician" or whatever.
Stupid is stupid and no particular group doesn't have its stupidity.
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Nor make derogatory statements to people about pills and then claim you didn't mock them for being on medications.
It's way better to own up and say "Yeah, I said that, I guess that was a shitty thing to say, I'm sorry" or even "Yeah, I said that, I guess I have a prejudice against Christians" than to try to pretend you didn't say it or that you meant something else.
Like I said, that was in retaliation to him flinging shit at me.
I did apologize about the pill thing, rogers the one who's not letting it go.
I stand by what I've said, Roger is being a complete asshole and he has no excuse for it now.
As I've said, I don't have prejudice against christians, I have predjudice against stupid people though.
A lot of those stupid people happen to be christian.
I have friends that consider themselves christian, and I have nothing against them as long as they don't bring up Jesus and shit.
I judge people by their individual merits, how they treat other people, how they treat me and if they can take a fucking joke.
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I, personally, have a definite prejudice against Christians and it's hard for me to not be suspicious of anyone who claims to be Christian. I have overcome that prejudice for a couple of people but just because I have a couple of Christian friends doesn't mean I no longer carry that prejudice.
You'd think I'd be prejudiced against white people but I fucking love white people. Especially Jews. Go figure.
I am, on the other hand, prejudiced against white people.
Fucking Bleachers.
(That, in case you missed it, WAS a joke. TGRR.)
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on December 07, 2009, 06:13:07 AM
You'd think I'd be prejudiced against white people but I fucking love white people. Especially Jews. Go figure.
I, on the other hand, mostly CAN NOT STAND white people.
I know, I know...I keep moving to the wrong parts of the country.
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on December 07, 2009, 06:35:43 AM
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on December 07, 2009, 06:13:07 AM
You'd think I'd be prejudiced against white people but I fucking love white people. Especially Jews. Go figure.
I, on the other hand, mostly CAN NOT STAND white people.
I know, I know...I keep moving to the wrong parts of the country.
You bigot :argh!:
Moving away from Lys - TGRR drama, I thought the video was pretty fucking awesome. Spong "gets it", in a way that I'm still looking for.
/Goes off to look for other stuff by him
Quote from: Sir Remington III on December 07, 2009, 08:00:26 AM
Moving away from Lys - TGRR drama, I thought the video was pretty fucking awesome. Spong "gets it", in a way that I'm still looking for.
/Goes off to look for other stuff by him
That's the spirit. Yeah I've checked out another one or two of his vids so far, and I like what I see.
We may very well have a new discordian saint on our hands.
I really like this guy, he seems to be a real forward thinker. I just hope his words don't fall entirely upon deaf ears. I watched a couple of other videos with him in it and I especially like this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XL8LvaJ9Rc&NR=1
Definitely a guy who's got his head on straight, methinks.
Uh, "Christfag" is 4chan lingo.
I generally disapprove of 4chan lingo, because 4chan kinda sucks, and if I wanted to go to the sort of place that acted and talked like 4chan I'd actually go there, but I believe the -fag suffix in 4chan speak generally denotes some kind of religious believer (for example, Scifags for Scientologists), and I've seen people refer to themselves as Christfags before.
The mistake Lys made was coming on here stoned and thinking this place was 4chan, and so intimately knows the 4chan lingo.
Quote from: Cain on December 07, 2009, 10:09:55 AM
Uh, "Christfag" is 4chan lingo.
I generally disapprove of 4chan lingo, because 4chan kinda sucks, and if I wanted to go to the sort of place that acted and talked like 4chan I'd actually go there, but I believe the -fag suffix in 4chan speak generally denotes some kind of religious believer (for example, Scifags for Scientologists), and I've seen people refer to themselves as Christfags before.
The mistake Lys made was coming on here stoned and thinking this place was 4chan, and so intimately knows the 4chan lingo.
this.
Well, except the being stoned part.
I try to avoid using 4chan lingo but it occasionally slips into my talking, I spend to much time talking to /b/tards, its started to affect my vocabulary.
Yeah, I just threw in the stoned bit to tease you.
And yes, I know what you mean. That is one of the reasons why I stopped going (along with it sucking, massively), because I didn't want to end up sounding like one of those idiots.
Quote from: Cain on December 07, 2009, 10:28:54 AM
Yeah, I just threw in the stoned bit to tease you.
And yes, I know what you mean. That is one of the reasons why I stopped going (along with it sucking, massively), because I didn't want to end up sounding like one of those idiots.
See thats the funny thing, I don't even visit 4chan very often, and if I do its like, for 5 minutes and then I've got my fill for the month.
Most of it just comes from associating with them at protests and well, parties and shit.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 04:32:48 AM
Apparently, admitting that it was a low blow, and apoligising for it, despite the fact it was in retaliation for a low blow that YOU started, is just not good enough for TGRR.
And I'm still going to hate Rog for completely mis-interpreting what I'm saying and calling me out on shit that just isn't true in the fucking SLIGHTEST.
No, this issue is clear and simple, Roger, you're a fucking asshole who NEEDS to be right, even when it's fucking clear that for once, you're in the wrong.
BTW, I'm willing to forgive and forget if he is, but somehow I doubt he has the ability or humility to do so.
Yes, we're monkeys flinging shit at each other, I can see that clearly, difference between me and roger is, I'm willing to try clean up the shit whereas he seems perfectly happy to continue flinging his shit and acting like a fucking primate.
Funny how often TGRR complains about so many people acting like fucking primates when it seems he can't seem to evolve past it himself.
Have fun living in your filth, monkey man messiah.
:pokewithstick:
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 04:35:04 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 07, 2009, 04:13:39 AM
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on December 07, 2009, 04:12:40 AM
I gotta admit that, as ambiguous and poorly phrased as it was at first, the line about "it's OK, if they're really christians they'll forgive me for it" seemed awfully tongue-in-cheek.
And I've never known Lys to be a bigot.
However, I'd hate to get in the way of a good interfight.
Carry on, gentlemen.
I'm just seeing how far his leg yanks out. Fucking thing is made of silly putty, apparently.
See, he admits it. He's TRYING to piss me off.
Congratulations, you've done it.
Hope it was worth it.
The Free Market™ demanded it.
Sorry about that. I had my pokey stick all sharpened up, then couldn't leave the house.
Quote from: Kai on December 07, 2009, 04:51:37 AM
Oh, FFS people. Roger, Lys isn't a bigot. We both know it.
Well, yeah. He wouldn't have gotten so pissed if he was.
Hold on a second---
TGRR, was that a sociological experiment?
Quote from: LMNO on December 07, 2009, 02:25:47 PM
Hold on a second---
TGRR, was that a sociological experiment?
:lulz:
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 05:03:44 AM
(http://zackfordblogs.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/South-Park-Gays-Against-Fags.JPG)
[South Park Puiblic Library, day. A row of motorcycles is at the front door.] Lead Biker: (reading from a dictionary) Faggot, often shortened to fag, has been used in the English language since the late sixteenth century. Its original meaning was "an old or unpleasant woman."
Biker 2: That certainly don't apply to us.
Lead Biker: Faggot later was defined as a bundle of sticks. And in the nineteenthh century, a faggot gatherer was someone who made a meager living gathering firewood.
Biker 6: Well they certainly ain't calling us fags 'cause we gather sticks; there's got to be more! [begins revving his voice. The other bikers begin revving theirs, and the librarian shushes them. The bikers tone down their revving.]
Biker 2: What's that part say there?
Lead Biker: Later, the term "fag" was defined as any awkward bundle to be carried, and was often used an an insult to the elderly, as in calling them "baggage."
Biker 2: Fag was used as an insult to women, then poor people, then old people?
Lead Biker: In the early 1900s the word became a pe-jo-ra-tive term against homosexuals and trans-gender people in the United States.
Biker 10: Well that word just keeps changing its meaning. What's it got to do with us?? [begins revving his voice. The other bikers begin revving theirs, and the librarian shushes them again. The bikers tone down their revving.]
[A courtroom. A panel of judges is interrogating the four boys.] Judge 1: We are really trying to understand this. How is it that you boys think referring to gay people as fags in today's world is acceptable?
Kyle: [exasperated] Because we're not referring to gay people! You can be gay and not be a fag!
Stan: Yeah, a lot of fags aren't gay.
Judge 2: I happen to be gay, boys. Do you think I'm a fag?
Stan: Do you ride a big loud Harley and go up and down the streets, ruining everyone's nice time?
Judge 2: No.
Stan: Then you're not a fag.
Judge 1: So what if a guy is gay and rides a Harley?
Cartman: Then he's a gay fag. I mean, is this really this hard?
Stan: I don't know.
Kenny: (This is fucking ridiculous.)
Stan: All right, look, you're driving in your car, okay?, and you're waiting to make a left at a traffic signal. The light turns yellow, should be your turn to go, but the traffic coming at you just keeps coming. And even when the light turns red, a guy in a BMW runs the red light so you can't make your left turn. What goes through your mind?
Judge 3: "Fag."
Stan: Right. But you're not thinkin' "Oh, he's a homosexual," you're thinkin' "Oh, he's an inconsiderate douchebag like a Harley rider."
Judge 1 : This, this is, making insanely good sense to me.
Judge 4 : Alright, how about this: What would you call a straight man who doesn't own a Harley, but likes them and might buy one someday?
Cartman: You call them "bike-curious"
Judge 1: "bike-cu-"
Stan: "Bike-curious!" Don't you people keep up with today's lingo at all?!
Kenny: [puts his head in his hands out of frustration] (Jesus fucking Christ!)
also, a few words from Louis CK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-otAJrtY-w&feature=player_embedded
Quote from: LMNO on December 07, 2009, 02:25:47 PM
Hold on a second---
TGRR, was that a sociological experiment?
No, that was Roger being a dick. :)
TGRR,
Too lazy to find an excuse.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 07, 2009, 02:15:51 PM
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 04:35:04 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 07, 2009, 04:13:39 AM
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on December 07, 2009, 04:12:40 AM
I gotta admit that, as ambiguous and poorly phrased as it was at first, the line about "it's OK, if they're really christians they'll forgive me for it" seemed awfully tongue-in-cheek.
And I've never known Lys to be a bigot.
However, I'd hate to get in the way of a good interfight.
Carry on, gentlemen.
I'm just seeing how far his leg yanks out. Fucking thing is made of silly putty, apparently.
See, he admits it. He's TRYING to piss me off.
Congratulations, you've done it.
Hope it was worth it.
The Free Market™ demanded it.
Sorry about that. I had my pokey stick all sharpened up, then couldn't leave the house.
Wait a minute, is that an apology? Just making sure, it's nearly 3am and I'm tired and I'm not sure if I'm supposed to still be pissed off at you.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 03:38:45 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 07, 2009, 02:15:51 PM
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 04:35:04 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 07, 2009, 04:13:39 AM
Quote from: Rip City Hustle on December 07, 2009, 04:12:40 AM
I gotta admit that, as ambiguous and poorly phrased as it was at first, the line about "it's OK, if they're really christians they'll forgive me for it" seemed awfully tongue-in-cheek.
And I've never known Lys to be a bigot.
However, I'd hate to get in the way of a good interfight.
Carry on, gentlemen.
I'm just seeing how far his leg yanks out. Fucking thing is made of silly putty, apparently.
See, he admits it. He's TRYING to piss me off.
Congratulations, you've done it.
Hope it was worth it.
The Free Market™ demanded it.
Sorry about that. I had my pokey stick all sharpened up, then couldn't leave the house.
Wait a minute, is that an apology? Just making sure, it's nearly 3am and I'm tired and I'm not sure if I'm supposed to still be pissed off at you.
Yeah, that was an apology. Now I only have 2 left until the New Year, or I'll get hammered on capital gains.
Please bear in mind that said apology, while genuine, is not to be taken as a statement that I wouldn't do it again.
TGRR,
Gotta be me.
Quote from: Encyclopedia DramaticaFag can refer to:
1. Someone with zero vagina tolerance
2. A term of derision/endearment. Your affiliation/location suffixed with "fag"; e.g. EDfag, Amerifag, newfag, Gaiafag, etc.
3. Anyone who has ever yiffed, EVER.
4. Someone who is just an inconsiderate douche or sucks in general. I learned this from South Park.
5. A cigarette, to the subjects of Her Majesty
6. A bundle of sticks or fascio, plural: fasci
7. A kind of meatball
8. Anyone who plays TOW Online
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 07, 2009, 03:53:07 PM
Please bear in mind that said apology, while genuine, is not to be taken as a statement that I wouldn't do it again.
TGRR,
Gotta be me.
Known, noted, and understood.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 10:39:35 AM
Quote from: Cain on December 07, 2009, 10:28:54 AM
Yeah, I just threw in the stoned bit to tease you.
And yes, I know what you mean. That is one of the reasons why I stopped going (along with it sucking, massively), because I didn't want to end up sounding like one of those idiots.
See thats the funny thing, I don't even visit 4chan very often, and if I do its like, for 5 minutes and then I've got my fill for the month.
Most of it just comes from associating with them at protests and well, parties and shit.
4channers don't party.
Well, they throw LAN parties, in their parents basements, whilst furiously masturbating to their favourite creepy emotionless girl (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EmotionlessGirl) from whatever anime series they have stolen from /rs/ this week.
But that doesn't count.
Quote from: Cain on December 07, 2009, 04:16:22 PM
Quote from: Lysergic on December 07, 2009, 10:39:35 AM
Quote from: Cain on December 07, 2009, 10:28:54 AM
Yeah, I just threw in the stoned bit to tease you.
And yes, I know what you mean. That is one of the reasons why I stopped going (along with it sucking, massively), because I didn't want to end up sounding like one of those idiots.
See thats the funny thing, I don't even visit 4chan very often, and if I do its like, for 5 minutes and then I've got my fill for the month.
Most of it just comes from associating with them at protests and well, parties and shit.
4channers don't party.
Well, they throw LAN parties, in their parents basements, whilst furiously masturbating to their favourite creepy emotionless girl (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EmotionlessGirl) from whatever anime series they have stolen from /rs/ this week.
But that doesn't count.
Oh, I know a few cool 4channers.
One of them is a doctor who likes to party. Another is an actor who is really quite good.
And then there are a few chicks who are really nerdy and like to party.
But don't let that fool you.
I know a lot of /b/tards that are boring, assburgers types.
Or the rapist and psychopath type.
The thing about /b/ is its all sorts of people, and there is some gold among the rabble, I think.
At the very least, it helps having a good friend as a personal doctor.
HEY, DOC, CAN YOU PRESCRIBE ME SOME MORE ACID?
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:hippie:
Quote from: Brotep on December 07, 2009, 03:53:28 PM
Quote from: Encyclopedia DramaticaFag can refer to:
1. Someone with zero vagina tolerance
2. A term of derision/endearment. Your affiliation/location suffixed with "fag"; e.g. EDfag, Amerifag, newfag, Gaiafag, etc.
3. Anyone who has ever yiffed, EVER.
4. Someone who is just an inconsiderate douche or sucks in general. I learned this from South Park.
5. A cigarette, to the subjects of Her Majesty
6. A bundle of sticks or fascio, plural: fasci
7. A kind of meatball
8. Anyone who plays TOW Online
From now on I'm calling Fascists faggots. If anyone gets pissed at can just point them to ED.
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on December 07, 2009, 07:58:34 PM
Quote from: Brotep on December 07, 2009, 03:53:28 PM
Quote from: Encyclopedia DramaticaFag can refer to:
1. Someone with zero vagina tolerance
2. A term of derision/endearment. Your affiliation/location suffixed with "fag"; e.g. EDfag, Amerifag, newfag, Gaiafag, etc.
3. Anyone who has ever yiffed, EVER.
4. Someone who is just an inconsiderate douche or sucks in general. I learned this from South Park.
5. A cigarette, to the subjects of Her Majesty
6. A bundle of sticks or fascio, plural: fasci
7. A kind of meatball
8. Anyone who plays TOW Online
From now on I'm calling Fascists faggots. If anyone gets pissed at can just point them to ED.
I think the extrapolation would be faggist...
hmm. kinda has a ring to it.