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Principia Discordia => Literate Chaotic => Topic started by: Triple Zero on January 08, 2010, 12:02:34 PM

Title: Latin question: primary, secondary, tertiary--is there one for "last"?
Post by: Triple Zero on January 08, 2010, 12:02:34 PM
I asked a friend, all he could come up with was "ultimate", but that word signifies too much importance.

See I'm designing an HTML template and in my quest for ultimate (heh) semantics, I don't want to call my sidebar "left" "right" or even "sidebar" because it might not even be on the side. So I call them "primary" and "secondary" to signify that the first is slightly more important than the second, but not as important as the main block of text called "main".

Now usually you have no more than two sidebars, but if I had I'd call it "tertiary", no problem.

Another important reason for doing it this way is that this is the way a lot of semantic HTML templates on the web do it, such as, for instance, the Sandbox Wordpress template.

But then comes the problem, there's another section, the final one, usually called "footer". It usually contains a copyright message and some contact info. Now "footer" signifies that it is at the bottom of the layout, but that's a positional name, saying bottom, or below. The footer might not be below in the layout, it usually is, but it could also be placed in a sort of address box at the left or right maybe.

What is important however, that it always is the final piece of information on the page. So in follow-up of "primary" "secondary", I'd wanna call this block not "footer" but the Latin word for "last". Except as I mentioned above, primary is the most important sidebar, secondary comes after that, and the footer is always the least important one, it will be in tiny font low contrast colour etc. So I kind of feel that the word "ultimate" would lend it too much importance, see?

Yes I understand this is totally pedantic and 200% perfectionistic of mine, but it's something that keeps crossing my mind every time I write an HTML template and get to the footer bit and it is annoying me to no end.

Halp?
Title: Re: Latin question: primary, secondary, tertiary--is there one for "last"?
Post by: Kai on January 08, 2010, 12:45:56 PM
You could go with the latin version, ultimus.
Title: Re: Latin question: primary, secondary, tertiary--is there one for "last"?
Post by: Triple Zero on January 08, 2010, 02:11:40 PM
Yes, that's what I meant, but "ultimate" or "ultimus" have this "final" connotation to that, that this is the last and most important thing.

You know, if you say "this is the ultimate in photographic equipment", it means it's the latest but also the best.

While I'm looking for something that signifies it is the latest thing, but not the best, but more like an appendix or epilogue, an afterthought.

But appendix and epilogue both have the wrong meaning as well.

Maybe I could name it "colophon" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_design#Back_matter) because that's the sort of information it contains, after all. Seems like the best choice so far, perhaps.

Title: Re: Latin question: primary, secondary, tertiary--is there one for "last"?
Post by: Kai on January 08, 2010, 02:39:18 PM
If you don't mind mixing latin and greek, how about telos?
Title: Re: Latin question: primary, secondary, tertiary--is there one for "last"?
Post by: Kai on January 08, 2010, 02:44:51 PM
or perhaps, pluridista (L), the most distant.
Title: Re: Latin question: primary, secondary, tertiary--is there one for "last"?
Post by: LMNO on January 08, 2010, 02:46:32 PM
How about Omega?  As in "the Alpha and the Omega".
Title: Re: Latin question: primary, secondary, tertiary--is there one for "last"?
Post by: Brotep on January 08, 2010, 07:25:43 PM
Final?
Title: Re: Latin question: primary, secondary, tertiary--is there one for "last"?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 08, 2010, 09:00:30 PM
Probably ultimum.
Title: Re: Latin question: primary, secondary, tertiary--is there one for "last"?
Post by: Captain Utopia on January 08, 2010, 09:27:46 PM
Lasticus?
Title: Re: Latin question: primary, secondary, tertiary--is there one for "last"?
Post by: Triple Zero on January 09, 2010, 12:38:42 AM
I'm going to go with "colophon", no it's not the answer to the question, but I like it and it works :)

See I made something here: http://000.blackironprison.com/

I got mad inspired by some incredibly tacky web2.0-ish corporate website, and just pasted the "people people" subgenius ad into the empty spaces. Credits are in the colophon, right at the bottom.
Title: Re: Latin question: primary, secondary, tertiary--is there one for "last"?
Post by: Template on January 09, 2010, 06:22:34 AM
I was going to suggest "terminal" or "terminator" or "cauda" or "coda".
Title: Re: Latin question: primary, secondary, tertiary--is there one for "last"?
Post by: Bu🤠ns on January 09, 2010, 07:09:52 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on January 09, 2010, 12:38:42 AM
I'm going to go with "colophon", no it's not the answer to the question, but I like it and it works :)

See I made something here: http://000.blackironprison.com/

I got mad inspired by some incredibly tacky web2.0-ish corporate website, and just pasted the "people people" subgenius ad into the empty spaces. Credits are in the colophon, right at the bottom.

HEy that's nice! 

make it into a pamphelt throw some stock photography on it and bam.
Title: Re: Latin question: primary, secondary, tertiary--is there one for "last"?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 09, 2010, 07:22:15 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on January 09, 2010, 12:38:42 AM
I'm going to go with "colophon", no it's not the answer to the question, but I like it and it works :)

See I made something here: http://000.blackironprison.com/

I got mad inspired by some incredibly tacky web2.0-ish corporate website, and just pasted the "people people" subgenius ad into the empty spaces. Credits are in the colophon, right at the bottom.

That is rather lovely.
Title: Re: Latin question: primary, secondary, tertiary--is there one for "last"?
Post by: Jasper on January 09, 2010, 08:13:55 AM
Oww, my forebrain.
Title: Re: Latin question: primary, secondary, tertiary--is there one for "last"?
Post by: Kai on January 09, 2010, 03:30:10 PM
Zero, that is AWESOME. And yes, just throw in some stock photography and it will be PERFECT.

Also, some sort of company name at the top.
Title: Re: Latin question: primary, secondary, tertiary--is there one for "last"?
Post by: Triple Zero on January 10, 2010, 01:10:06 AM
Well it started as a mockup for a generic web layout, actually more generic than that :) which is why it took my fancy, so yeah I might as well finish it up with some generic stock of people-on-the-phone-and-in-meetings and shit, I know the kind.
Title: Re: Latin question: primary, secondary, tertiary--is there one for "last"?
Post by: Jasper on January 12, 2010, 05:46:23 AM
I showed it to a friend, (guy called Ted Eats Dogs around these parts, only posted a few times).  He responds:

QuoteThat website was good! How good? Good enough to force me to mail one of my hefty turds to their competitors with a note written in cat blood reading "Fuck You!" It was so good that I forgot there was such a thing as great! Great isn't as good as good unless it is so great that it is good. Before this website, I didn't know the difference between Manifest Destiny and White Man's Burden, and now my business is sticking it to the 6-year-old Polynesian girl! Take that sweat shop queen! Who am I?
Title: Re: Latin question: primary, secondary, tertiary--is there one for "last"?
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on January 12, 2010, 11:28:23 AM
Quote from: yhnmzw on January 09, 2010, 06:22:34 AM
I was going to suggest "terminal" or "terminator" or "cauda" or "coda".

"Terminus" was gonna be my suggestion, but then he finished it without my help.
Title: Re: Latin question: primary, secondary, tertiary--is there one for "last"?
Post by: Jasper on January 13, 2010, 03:19:45 AM
Quote from: Cainad on January 12, 2010, 11:28:23 AM
Quote from: yhnmzw on January 09, 2010, 06:22:34 AM
I was going to suggest "terminal" or "terminator" or "cauda" or "coda".

"Terminus" was gonna be my suggestion, but then he finished it without my help.

This!  000, change it to terminus!

Felix,
Can get behind anything that has the same root word as "Terminator".
Title: Re: Latin question: primary, secondary, tertiary--is there one for "last"?
Post by: Triple Zero on January 13, 2010, 10:43:30 AM
Dr Terminus will know ... down to the last man
Title: Re: Latin question: primary, secondary, tertiary--is there one for "last"?
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on January 13, 2010, 03:12:51 PM
Quote from: yhnmzw on January 09, 2010, 06:22:34 AM
I was going to suggest "terminal" or "terminator" or "cauda" or "coda".

Coda was gonna be my guess too...

The template looks great 000!!