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Principia Discordia => Principia Discussion => Topic started by: Rev.Spade on January 17, 2010, 11:51:39 PM

Title: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: Rev.Spade on January 17, 2010, 11:51:39 PM
I always wondered if that fucking thing ever existed and I did search far and wide for it but never could find anything even slightly close to it.

I'd be willing to embark on such a project of making a decent enough PD audiobook and I also wonder if some people wanna get to it too?
Title: Re: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: BabylonHoruv on January 18, 2010, 12:54:04 AM
I'd like to be involved.  I've got pretty good audio software and a decent microphone.

A fair amount of what is in the Principia is visual art so obviously we'd need to leave that out.
Title: Re: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on January 18, 2010, 01:07:36 AM
I'll get my good microphone back sooner or later, and we can make this work. The interview at the beginning should be done with two people, same when Eris talks to him through the radio. I think it would be neat to have a whole bunch of different voices involved in this.
Title: Re: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: Rev.Spade on January 18, 2010, 02:24:25 AM
This was my first goal, to get alot of people into this because the more we get that ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING, the less work it will be, the more variety we will have and maybe more ideas can be thrown in the mix.

I thought that some of the images that has text can either be inserted somewhere like at the beginning/middle or end of a lecture as long as it has text. It can be read normally or recorded and then inserted backwards to prone moar chaos. Also, I am not against the idea of inserting an ''Extras'' section where people add their own lectures not from the PD but rather inspired by the actual discordian mindset
Title: Re: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: The Fundamentalist on January 18, 2010, 04:24:55 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on January 18, 2010, 12:54:04 AM
A fair amount of what is in the Principia is visual art so obviously we'd need to leave that out.

Perhaps this is a bit ambitious, but could auditory art (music) be substituted?
Title: Re: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: BabylonHoruv on January 18, 2010, 04:33:06 AM
Quote from: The Fundamentalist on January 18, 2010, 04:24:55 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on January 18, 2010, 12:54:04 AM
A fair amount of what is in the Principia is visual art so obviously we'd need to leave that out.

Perhaps this is a bit ambitious, but could auditory art (music) be substituted?

I had thought about that.  I make what I consider to be fairly Discordant music.  The only problem I see there is an excess of pinealism and/or noize.  However as long as we keep a limit on how much audio art any one person contributes it could work.

It also means we are expanding on the original PD considerably, but that isn't really a bad thing.
Title: Re: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: Rev.Spade on January 18, 2010, 04:54:46 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on January 18, 2010, 12:54:04 AM
It also means we are expanding on the original PD considerably, but that isn't really a bad thing.

I believe that making a PD audiobook of our time with additional content would be great. All we need is to know who is willing to audio record which pages of the PD and who is willing to add extra content after or during the completion of the project and then, make a big thing out of it either as one big single audio file or as a chapter by chapter downloadable thingy
Title: Re: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: BabylonHoruv on January 18, 2010, 05:02:27 AM
Quote from: Rev.Spade on January 18, 2010, 04:54:46 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on January 18, 2010, 12:54:04 AM
It also means we are expanding on the original PD considerably, but that isn't really a bad thing.

I believe that making a PD audiobook of our time with additional content would be great. All we need is to know who is willing to audio record which pages of the PD and who is willing to add extra content after or during the completion of the project and then, make a big thing out of it either as one big single audio file or as a chapter by chapter downloadable thingy

I'd say definitely chapter by chapter.  it makes downloading it easier and also makes playing it a more pleasurable experience since they can go right to the chapter they want.
Title: Re: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: Rev.Spade on January 18, 2010, 05:09:44 AM
Chapter by chapter in a single zipped file sounds good
Title: Re: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: BabylonHoruv on January 18, 2010, 05:16:48 AM
Quote from: Rev.Spade on January 18, 2010, 05:09:44 AM
Chapter by chapter in a single zipped file sounds good

That or as an album.  So those with slow or intermittent connections can download a chapter at a time.

(or both, to make it easy for those with fast or slow connections)
Title: Re: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: Rev.Spade on January 18, 2010, 05:46:26 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on January 18, 2010, 05:16:48 AM
Quote from: Rev.Spade on January 18, 2010, 05:09:44 AM
Chapter by chapter in a single zipped file sounds good

That or as an album.  So those with slow or intermittent connections can download a chapter at a time.

(or both, to make it easy for those with fast or slow connections)

True. A city folk like I tend to forget about that...

So as for now, we'd need more people willing to want it. IMO, the more we can be to do this, the more diversified and awesome it could become
Title: Re: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: Iason Ouabache on January 18, 2010, 07:45:24 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on January 18, 2010, 05:16:48 AM
Quote from: Rev.Spade on January 18, 2010, 05:09:44 AM
Chapter by chapter in a single zipped file sounds good

That or as an album podcast.  So those with slow or intermittent connections can download a chapter at a time.

(or both, to make it easy for those with fast or slow connections)
Podcast would work better so you can release chapters episodically and have an automatic RSS feed for people to follow.
Title: Re: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: the last yatto on January 18, 2010, 09:55:15 AM
id rather hear a podcast of some of the BIP material personally
Title: Re: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on January 18, 2010, 04:39:10 PM
I've been developing scripts for a Discordian Radio show which included bits of the PD, BiP and some 'game shows' (Discordian Squares for one)...

But I keep getting distracted!

I think its a great idea to audiobook the PD, I'd be happy to help :)

Rat "used to be on the Radio" atosk
Title: Re: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: Rev.Spade on January 18, 2010, 07:44:22 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on January 18, 2010, 07:45:24 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on January 18, 2010, 05:16:48 AM
Quote from: Rev.Spade on January 18, 2010, 05:09:44 AM
Chapter by chapter in a single zipped file sounds good

That or as an album podcast.  So those with slow or intermittent connections can download a chapter at a time.

(or both, to make it easy for those with fast or slow connections)
Podcast would work better so you can release chapters episodically and have an automatic RSS feed for people to follow.

In fact, this is why chapter by chapter would be a good idea because since it will be kopyleft, anyone can use it for their own radio show

Quote from: Ratatosk on January 18, 2010, 04:39:10 PM
I've been developing scripts for a Discordian Radio show which included bits of the PD, BiP and some 'game shows' (Discordian Squares for one)...

But I keep getting distracted!

I think its a great idea to audiobook the PD, I'd be happy to help :)

Rat "used to be on the Radio" atosk

Can I have a download link to that. I'd like to listen to that. I know I've been on hiatus of my show for a while due to lack of inspiration but I thought of getting back to it this week or the next
Title: Re: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: nuclearcabbage on February 14, 2010, 05:52:53 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on January 18, 2010, 04:33:06 AM
Quote from: The Fundamentalist on January 18, 2010, 04:24:55 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on January 18, 2010, 12:54:04 AM
A fair amount of what is in the Principia is visual art so obviously we'd need to leave that out.

Perhaps this is a bit ambitious, but could auditory art (music) be substituted?

I had thought about that.  I make what I consider to be fairly Discordant music.  The only problem I see there is an excess of pinealism and/or noize.  However as long as we keep a limit on how much audio art any one person contributes it could work.

It also means we are expanding on the original PD considerably, but that isn't really a bad thing.

you make pinealist noize?

can i take a gander at it somehow/somewhere ?
Title: Re: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: Shibboleet The Annihilator on February 14, 2010, 09:51:54 PM
Quote from: Pēleus on January 18, 2010, 09:55:15 AM
id rather hear a podcast of some of the BIP material personally

Then make some. Welcome to the Internets.
Title: Re: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: BabylonHoruv on February 15, 2010, 12:31:02 AM
Quote from: nuclearcabbage on February 14, 2010, 05:52:53 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on January 18, 2010, 04:33:06 AM
Quote from: The Fundamentalist on January 18, 2010, 04:24:55 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on January 18, 2010, 12:54:04 AM
A fair amount of what is in the Principia is visual art so obviously we'd need to leave that out.

Perhaps this is a bit ambitious, but could auditory art (music) be substituted?

I had thought about that.  I make what I consider to be fairly Discordant music.  The only problem I see there is an excess of pinealism and/or noize.  However as long as we keep a limit on how much audio art any one person contributes it could work.

It also means we are expanding on the original PD considerably, but that isn't really a bad thing.

you make pinealist noize?

can i take a gander at it somehow/somewhere ?

http://www.soundclick.com/babylonhoruv
Title: Re: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: nuclearcabbage on February 15, 2010, 08:22:51 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on February 15, 2010, 12:31:02 AM
Quote from: nuclearcabbage on February 14, 2010, 05:52:53 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on January 18, 2010, 04:33:06 AM
Quote from: The Fundamentalist on January 18, 2010, 04:24:55 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on January 18, 2010, 12:54:04 AM
A fair amount of what is in the Principia is visual art so obviously we'd need to leave that out.

Perhaps this is a bit ambitious, but could auditory art (music) be substituted?

I had thought about that.  I make what I consider to be fairly Discordant music.  The only problem I see there is an excess of pinealism and/or noize.  However as long as we keep a limit on how much audio art any one person contributes it could work.

It also means we are expanding on the original PD considerably, but that isn't really a bad thing.

you make pinealist noize?

can i take a gander at it somehow/somewhere ?

http://www.soundclick.com/babylonhoruv

cool man!
this is some fucking triptastic stuff!

noizy stuff is good stuff

Title: Re: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: BabylonHoruv on February 15, 2010, 08:24:24 PM
Quote from: nuclearcabbage on February 15, 2010, 08:22:51 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on February 15, 2010, 12:31:02 AM
Quote from: nuclearcabbage on February 14, 2010, 05:52:53 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on January 18, 2010, 04:33:06 AM
Quote from: The Fundamentalist on January 18, 2010, 04:24:55 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on January 18, 2010, 12:54:04 AM
A fair amount of what is in the Principia is visual art so obviously we'd need to leave that out.

Perhaps this is a bit ambitious, but could auditory art (music) be substituted?

I had thought about that.  I make what I consider to be fairly Discordant music.  The only problem I see there is an excess of pinealism and/or noize.  However as long as we keep a limit on how much audio art any one person contributes it could work.

It also means we are expanding on the original PD considerably, but that isn't really a bad thing.

you make pinealist noize?

can i take a gander at it somehow/somewhere ?

http://www.soundclick.com/babylonhoruv

cool man!
this is some fucking triptastic stuff!

noizy stuff is good stuff



Glad you enjoyed.  I am working on getting a print run of CD's together, a friend is making the album cover for me.  I plan on hawking it down  on Venice Beach once my wife and I move out to California.
Title: Re: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: nuclearcabbage on February 15, 2010, 09:11:45 PM
im not trying to sound pessimistic or anything, but, how sure are you of the venice crowd getting into your music?

im sure you would make some sales nonetheless, im just wondering because im sure you realize that not many people listen to ambient/noise/industrial.

p.s.
FUCKING DO IT ANYWAY :D




Title: Re: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: BabylonHoruv on February 15, 2010, 09:21:58 PM
Quote from: nuclearcabbage on February 15, 2010, 09:11:45 PM
im not trying to sound pessimistic or anything, but, how sure are you of the venice crowd getting into your music?

im sure you would make some sales nonetheless, im just wondering because im sure you realize that not many people listen to ambient/noise/industrial.

p.s.
FUCKING DO IT ANYWAY :D






I picked up some Ambient dub when I was down there, hopefully I find the one or two people in the same headspace.  Also a cool looking cover is going to sell a fair amount of the albums anyways and then people can find out that it isn't what they wanted to hear later.  I had that experience myself a few times.  Fortunately most of the people hawking CD's sell them fairly cheap ( I would too, $5-10) so it is not a painful purchase even if it is not what you were looking for.
Title: Re: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: nuclearcabbage on February 15, 2010, 09:31:47 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on February 15, 2010, 09:21:58 PM
Quote from: nuclearcabbage on February 15, 2010, 09:11:45 PM
im not trying to sound pessimistic or anything, but, how sure are you of the venice crowd getting into your music?

im sure you would make some sales nonetheless, im just wondering because im sure you realize that not many people listen to ambient/noise/industrial.

p.s.
FUCKING DO IT ANYWAY :D






I picked up some Ambient dub when I was down there, hopefully I find the one or two people in the same headspace.  Also a cool looking cover is going to sell a fair amount of the albums anyways and then people can find out that it isn't what they wanted to hear later.  I had that experience myself a few times.  Fortunately most of the people hawking CD's sell them fairly cheap ( I would too, $5-10) so it is not a painful purchase even if it is not what you were looking for.

hence the, "FUCKING DO IT ANYWAY"!

i wish you expected success!
Title: Re: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: bds on February 16, 2010, 12:13:03 AM
Damn, I wish I could afford my decent mic already.

... Would stuff recorded off a semi-crap laptop mic be okay, or are you guys looking for good quality voice audio? If any of you have ever heard me in SpagSpeak you'll know what my mic sounds like, if not I can do a sample tomorrow for quality checking.
Title: Re: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: Triple Zero on February 16, 2010, 11:28:52 AM
Ambient Dub? WHICH ONE

- 000,
loves teh psydub/ambient dub
Title: Re: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: BabylonHoruv on February 16, 2010, 06:26:43 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 16, 2010, 11:28:52 AM
Ambient Dub? WHICH ONE

- 000,
loves teh psydub/ambient dub

I don't know.  Whichever artist it was was not very good at marketing because what I got was a CD full of music with "Peace and Love" written on it in marker.  Clearly the work of one artist or group as the songs are all similar and what vocals there are are the same person, but no idea the artist's name, or the album name or the song names for that matter.
Title: Re: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: LMNO on February 16, 2010, 06:56:52 PM
Is it a commercially released CD?  If so, google "shazam" and see if you have any technology that might be compatible with it.
Title: Re: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: nuclearcabbage on February 16, 2010, 08:41:16 PM
you will most likely never learn anything new regarding that artist
Title: Re: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: Triple Zero on February 18, 2010, 02:22:57 PM
Yeah, or install Exact Audio Copy and let it search for it on FreeDB.

You wanna rip it to MP3s anyway unless you like taking a plastic box, opening and waiting for your CD tray to open and close and for the drive to spin up and play while putting the previous disc back into its plastic box and place it on the shelves, every single time you want to skip to listen to a different album!! at least a good 10 seconds wasted, that gets tedious !!

Really sometimes I wonder how people used to manage, back in the days.

Last CDs I bought spent over a year in their plastic wrapping just because I couldn't be arsed to fuck around with those silly things.

Really, nearly 5 inch in diameter and only fits 700MB? For fuck's sake ...

But I digress :)
Title: Re: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: nuclearcabbage on February 18, 2010, 11:39:53 PM
purchasing musical chunks of plastic is soooo 2007
Title: Re: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: Triple Zero on February 19, 2010, 12:50:49 AM
huh? EAC is free, and so is the FreeDB service.

all I know is that it has worked for me in the past with unlabeled copied CDs that I forgot what they were.

plus it's a damn good audio ripper.
Title: Re: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: BabylonHoruv on February 19, 2010, 07:17:31 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 18, 2010, 02:22:57 PM
Yeah, or install Exact Audio Copy and let it search for it on FreeDB.

You wanna rip it to MP3s anyway unless you like taking a plastic box, opening and waiting for your CD tray to open and close and for the drive to spin up and play while putting the previous disc back into its plastic box and place it on the shelves, every single time you want to skip to listen to a different album!! at least a good 10 seconds wasted, that gets tedious !!

Really sometimes I wonder how people used to manage, back in the days.

Last CDs I bought spent over a year in their plastic wrapping just because I couldn't be arsed to fuck around with those silly things.

Really, nearly 5 inch in diameter and only fits 700MB? For fuck's sake ...

But I digress :)

I ripped them all to MP3's, I DJ an online radio show and I need all my music in MP3 form so I can. but I kinda doubt that if the artist is not organized enough to write their name or that of the album on the CD that they bothered to register it with online databases.

On the original topic, how many people want to do audio for this?  I have seen several maybes, but if we could get people to say which sections they would like to do we could get this underway.
Title: Re: Kopyleft Principia Discordia Audiobook (Can such a thing be done?)
Post by: Telarus on February 19, 2010, 08:13:29 PM
Sounds like an interesting project, I'd be down. I really like the audiobook idea and I would recommend thinking about a parallel slideshow to catch the more graphic parts of the PD, and you'd also have something for the video feed when you put it on YouTube, etc.