So through some research and talking with friends, it seems I may have some form of depression, maybe possibly.
One of my friends had some pretty severe depression went to the doctor got some tiny yelllow pills and now says that they have helped out quite a bit.
Not to jump the gun or anything but has been any of your personal experiences with antidepressants i.e. if it is in fact a chronic thing and I'm not just a mopy bitch should I take them.
Quote from: Pariarrhea on February 10, 2010, 02:36:50 AM
So through some research and talking with friends, it seems I may have some form of depression, maybe possibly.
One of my friends had some pretty severe depression went to the doctor got some tiny yelllow pills and now says that they have helped out quite a bit.
Not to jump the gun or anything but has been any of your personal experiences with antidepressants i.e. if it is in fact a chronic thing and I'm not just a mopy bitch should I take them.
Try em out.
PILLS HER- I mean, yes, I'm on them, and yes they work for me. Somewhat. It's not mazshgiquial or anything, just takes the edge off.
I can't attest to being on them, but maybe possibly having depression doesn't sound like a strong case for going on medication.
Quote from: EoC on February 10, 2010, 02:59:36 AM
I can't attest to being on them, but maybe possibly having depression doesn't sound like a strong case for going on medication.
You ever been depressed? I don't mean "down", I mean "depressed".
I've never seen eye-to-eye for taking Meds for depression, but I can release Endorphins with just a thought so I'm not one to attest.
But when your not even sure if you have it, are you just making yourself pedantic? Are you actually depressed? Or are you making yourself believe you are, when nothing is wrong to begin with?
Quote from: NotPublished on February 10, 2010, 03:03:43 AM
I've never seen eye-to-eye for taking Meds for depression, but I can release Endorphins with just a thought so I'm not one to attest.
Truly. I, on the other hand, can bend steel I-beams with my bare, mighty hands.
Quote from: NotPublished on February 10, 2010, 03:03:43 AM
But when your not even sure if you have it, are you just making yourself pedantic?
wut
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2010, 03:00:27 AM
Quote from: EoC on February 10, 2010, 02:59:36 AM
I can't attest to being on them, but maybe possibly having depression doesn't sound like a strong case for going on medication.
You ever been depressed? I don't mean "down", I mean "depressed".
Yes.
I had a bad experience with them. I was depressed and suicidal. Then I went on some pills and it completely took away the fear of death but not the want to die, I needed that fear to keep me balanced.
As roger said try em out but be wary, if anything seems unusual leave them be.
Quote from: NotPublished on February 10, 2010, 03:03:43 AM
But when your not even sure if you have it, are you just making yourself pedantic? Are you actually depressed? Or are you making yourself believe you are, when nothing is wrong to begin with?
The reason I included that I wasn't 100% sure is exactly because I am not 100% sure. From what I've looked up and from people I've talked too who actually have talked to a doctor (which i plan on doing soon) and have been diagnosed with it I believe that I can have a moderate concern whether I have depression or not. Again, due to the pesky subjective nature of reality I can not be certain until I actually talk to a medical doctor.
Go to a doctor. Find one you trust (family doctor?) who is covered by your medical insurance (if you have it). Your doctor will sit down with you and help you figure out if you're actually depressed or just blue. If you think you're depressed, you're probably depressed. But you go to the family doctor first to get a referral. If you're depressed your doctor should refer you to a psychiatrist. The psychiatrist will determine whether your depression is due to your environment or a chemical imbalance. S/he will prescribe happy pills if you need them. If you do, remember people have different reactions to medication. Keep your psychiatrist informed about how the medication is affecting you at all times. We tried 5 or 6 different kinds of pills before we found some that worked for me. I don't remember which one it was but I definitely started hallucinating with one of them. Once we found the right pills I was back to my normal self in less than 2 months.
Even if you don't get pills you'll probably be going to some form of therapy for a while. Some people can get out of their funk just by taking care of themselves(eating healthy, exercising, communicating) but it's always a good idea to get a professional opinion and it never hurts to talk things out with people. There's no reason to isolate yourself. Get help if you need it.
Quote from: Faust on February 10, 2010, 03:10:36 AM
I had a bad experience with them. I was depressed and suicidal. Then I went on some pills and it completely took away the fear of death but not the want to die, I needed that fear to keep me balanced.
As roger said try em out but be wary, if anything seems unusual leave them be.
I'm on pills for chronic (ie, continual) insomnia. Without them, I will stay awake for 3-4 days.
So far, 2 of the drugs they've given me have fucked me up badly, and I'm not sure about the third, but at least I sleep.
Quote from: Pariarrhea on February 10, 2010, 02:36:50 AM
it seems I may have some form of depression, maybe possibly.
All that "seems I may, maybe possibly" really does present a rather weak case for medication. I would suggest you go get assessed by a psychiatrist, but the problem, here, is that doctors in the US (are you in the US?) have taken to the "try antidepressants, they can't hurt!" approach to treating everything from anxiety to stress to actual depression. But the pills they're so happy to hand out (just in case they work) often have a host of side-effects, (weight gain? loss of libido? anyone?) and... best part... if you
didn't have depression when you started them, going off many of them will GIVE it to you! Yay!
All I'm saying is, be careful. Do a lot of research and try to talk to a mental health professional who isn't totally pill-happy before you dive in. You might be better off with, say, light therapy and yoga, if you have a very mild case.
Pills can be a godsend, in the right cases. In other cases, they can become a catch-22.
Yeah a medical doctor is the best choice of course. Self-diagnosis can be a bitch at times (But is probably very important) - so its good that your going to visit a doctor.
I'm not a professional or anything - though do you feel like you want to act in a different way but can't bring yourself to do it because of some unknown factor?
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2010, 03:05:25 AM
Quote from: NotPublished on February 10, 2010, 03:03:43 AM
But when your not even sure if you have it, are you just making yourself pedantic?
wut
I forgot the word .. The one where people make themselves they have an issue but they don't? Sorta like a False Positive.
My sister was given pills but it just made her the opposite of the intended then she went even more looney. She met the Queen of Spades, true story.
Really all this is, pre-emptive advice for if I actually have depression that is serious enough to warrant pills.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2010, 03:05:25 AM
Quote from: NotPublished on February 10, 2010, 03:03:43 AM
I've never seen eye-to-eye for taking Meds for depression, but I can release Endorphins with just a thought so I'm not one to attest.
Truly. I, on the other hand, can bend steel I-beams with my bare, mighty hands.
Yay for strange stuff!
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2010, 03:14:21 AM
Quote from: Faust on February 10, 2010, 03:10:36 AM
I had a bad experience with them. I was depressed and suicidal. Then I went on some pills and it completely took away the fear of death but not the want to die, I needed that fear to keep me balanced.
As roger said try em out but be wary, if anything seems unusual leave them be.
I'm on pills for chronic (ie, continual) insomnia. Without them, I will stay awake for 3-4 days.
So far, 2 of the drugs they've given me have fucked me up badly, and I'm not sure about the third, but at least I sleep.
I sometimes consider trying other pills but I never get around to it, besides the black moods have gotten softer over the years. It hasn't been that bad since I was in my teens.
Quote from: NotPublished on February 10, 2010, 03:15:35 AM
I forgot the word .. The one where people make themselves they have an issue but they don't? Sorta like a False Positive.
Priapism.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2010, 03:28:27 AM
Quote from: NotPublished on February 10, 2010, 03:15:35 AM
I forgot the word .. The one where people make themselves they have an issue but they don't? Sorta like a False Positive.
Priapism.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
:lulz: :lulz: Thats always a worry
Ohhh it was Hypochondria! Thank you for Google!
Quote from: Pariarrhea on February 10, 2010, 03:29:00 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2010, 03:28:27 AM
Quote from: NotPublished on February 10, 2010, 03:15:35 AM
I forgot the word .. The one where people make themselves they have an issue but they don't? Sorta like a False Positive.
Priapism.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Doktor Howl: Now a cure for depression.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2010, 02:38:44 AM
Quote from: Pariarrhea on February 10, 2010, 02:36:50 AM
So through some research and talking with friends, it seems I may have some form of depression, maybe possibly.
One of my friends had some pretty severe depression went to the doctor got some tiny yelllow pills and now says that they have helped out quite a bit.
Not to jump the gun or anything but has been any of your personal experiences with antidepressants i.e. if it is in fact a chronic thing and I'm not just a mopy bitch should I take them.
Try em out.
Absolutely.
Quote from: gin on February 10, 2010, 03:13:02 AM
Go to a doctor. Find one you trust (family doctor?) who is covered by your medical insurance (if you have it). Your doctor will sit down with you and help you figure out if you're actually depressed or just blue. If you think you're depressed, you're probably depressed. But you go to the family doctor first to get a referral. If you're depressed your doctor should refer you to a psychiatrist. The psychiatrist will determine whether your depression is due to your environment or a chemical imbalance. S/he will prescribe happy pills if you need them. If you do, remember people have different reactions to medication. Keep your psychiatrist informed about how the medication is affecting you at all times. We tried 5 or 6 different kinds of pills before we found some that worked for me. I don't remember which one it was but I definitely started hallucinating with one of them. Once we found the right pills I was back to my normal self in less than 2 months.
Even if you don't get pills you'll probably be going to some form of therapy for a while. Some people can get out of their funk just by taking care of themselves(eating healthy, exercising, communicating) but it's always a good idea to get a professional opinion and it never hurts to talk things out with people. There's no reason to isolate yourself. Get help if you need it.
I'm actually a little wary of telling you just to go to the doctor. That's what I did and I ended up on zoloft. Which was absolutely not what I needed. Yaaay mania.
Quote from: Pariarrhea on February 10, 2010, 03:16:19 AM
Really all this is, pre-emptive advice for if I actually have depression that is serious enough to warrant pills.
If you have serious depression--even if it's not chronic--then go. Take what they give you and figure out what you need to do to make it better if indeed you don't have chronic depression.
Quote from: Faust on February 10, 2010, 03:10:36 AM
I had a bad experience with them. I was depressed and suicidal. Then I went on some pills and it completely took away the fear of death but not the want to die, I needed that fear to keep me balanced.
As roger said try em out but be wary, if anything seems unusual leave them be.
i agree with this.
i didn't need pills. it was a bad idea. they didn't help.
stopped taking them, still depressed, usually deep seeded issues.
bleh.
Quote from: Faust on February 10, 2010, 03:10:36 AM
I had a bad experience with them. I was depressed and suicidal. Then I went on some pills and it completely took away the fear of death but not the want to die, I needed that fear to keep me balanced.
As roger said try em out but be wary, if anything seems unusual leave them be.
This. Sometimes, anti-depressants can be just what you need, but sometimes how you react to them just isn't worth the trouble. Definitely worth a shot, but if they end up making things worse, shop around for others, only take them occasionally (when the depression is at its worse) or consider leaving them aside entirely.
Protip: If you think you might be depressed look for seemingly physiological symptoms - lethargy, loss of appetite, dizzyness/nausea ... CLICK (http://www.helpmydepression.info/Physical_Symptoms_Of_Depression.html)
Depression is not about feeling a bit down in the dumps so forget trying to measure how pissed off and emo you're feeling and look for something obvious like is your shit coming out solid.
What kind of? I can only speak for the most basic run-of-the-mill Selective Serotonine-Reuptake Inhibitors (SSRIs). In which case I would agree with Doc Howl, try em out.
Especially when you don't get too high of a dosage. They don't really change you, they just allow you to enjoy life better. That's because they work via a sneaky backdoor mechanism:
See, Serotonine = Neurotransmitter-of-Happy. But it doesn't just increase your level of serotonine, that's more like what XTC or MDMA does (correct me if I'm wrong here), which is False Slack. No, it inhibits (slows down) the reuptake (breakdown) of serotonine. This means that you are still responsible for producing your own genuine organically produced Happy-Fun-Serotonine, it just makes it last longer and stops the serotonine-level from dropping way beyond below zero (which is depression), but over the course of some time helps you build up that natural sustainable buffer reserve of Joy-Juice.
Now the deal is, your doctor will tell you, you won't notice a thing until you faithfully take those pills (or drops) every day for at least 4-6 weeks. And in the mean time your serotonine levels will be changing, which, for me, seems to cause hangover-like side effects. But the side effects don't last longer than a week.
Another thing is, everybody's brain is different. What's a good SSRI for one, maybe creates horrible weird feeling for another. Fortunately there are numerous distinctly different SSRIs available, that all work slightly different. Biggest difference is, see apart from serotonine, they often also have an effect on your dopamine* and norepinephrine** levels, except less so. In addition, the different SSRI meds each affect the neurotransmitter levels more or less in different parts of your brain. Neurophysiology is complicated stuff, yo. A good psychiatrist will admit that medical science cannot predict whether an SSRI will be right for someone or not. Instead, they will carefully and on low dosages try a couple of them and see which one works best for you. I just want to say, if you end up using an SSRI and it makes you feel like crap, even after a couple of weeks, don't knock anti-depressants in general, but consult your doc and ask if you can get a different one.
* Is for concentration. "Dope". This is what Ritalin inhibits the reuptake of. ADHD people have less sensitive dopamine receptors, or sometimes break it down too fast. Speed and/or meth directly stimulate the production of dopamine.
** I forgot what this one does.
I'd say see a psychiatrist before starting on anti depressants, to both see if you are really depressed, and to make sure you understand the effects of the medication.
This is not however speaking from first hand experience, but from dealing with friends who have been on anti depressants and other such medication.
See a doctor.
However, http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/12/health/12mind.html a new study indicates that meds generally only help severely depressed people; for mild to moderate, they're about as good as placebo.
Also however, see a doctor. http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/content/42/9/14.1.full Standard cognitive therapy can be quite useful for mild to moderate depression.
Quote from: Rumckle on February 10, 2010, 11:42:05 AMI'd say see a psychiatrist before starting on anti depressants, to both see if you are really depressed, and to make sure you understand the effects of the medication.
Well, anti depressants aren't exactly OTC meds, right? So you'd have to see a psychiatrist anyway to get them prescribed?
2nd'ed. See a shrink about it.
A lot of medications have a step up / step down time associated, and shouldn't just be taken or stopped at will. There are also a whole laundry list of potential side effects or contraindications that could be associated with them. Perscribable medication ISN'T the sort of thing you can pop like a street drug, you need to take review of medical history and current condition. The chances of catastrophic failure are minimal, sure, but not something I'd want a fellow internet whacko to risk.
If you're going to ignore all this advice and fuck around anyways. DON'T.
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 10, 2010, 12:59:45 PM
Quote from: Rumckle on February 10, 2010, 11:42:05 AMI'd say see a psychiatrist before starting on anti depressants, to both see if you are really depressed, and to make sure you understand the effects of the medication.
Well, anti depressants aren't exactly OTC meds, right? So you'd have to see a psychiatrist anyway to get them prescribed?
Eh not everywhere, I was getting mine from my gp
I just suggested going to a family doctor first because a lot of people have to get a referral before their medical insurance will pay for them to see a psychiatrist. Of course, you should insist on seeing a psychiatrist before going on any medication.
Quote from: gin on February 10, 2010, 03:28:11 PM
I just suggested going to a family doctor first because a lot of people have to get a referral before their medical insurance will pay for them to see a psychiatrist. Of course, you should insist on seeing a psychiatrist before going on any medication.
Sure...if you never plan on owning guns or needing a clearance.
I refuse to take psychiatric medications, partly because I don't believe they all work, and partly because I've seen the damage they can do when they are over-prescribed or given for a mis-diagnosis.
My brother is severely ADHD, I watched Ritalin eat his emotions away and turn him into an obese, angry child.
My mother is bipolar and we have YET to find a prescription that balances her right.
A friend of mine was diagnosed with depression when she was 14 (wut, bad parenting ITT?) and is now stuck taking pills, because when she doesn't, she gets severe migraines.
It seems that antidepressants are so common now they can be handed out like candy to people who may have just be having a few down notes. Shit, I've been crying my eyes out for no reason at least once a week for a year and I still won't go see a shrink. I just deal with it. I'm in control of my own emotions, not some Big Pharma-fed Shrinkydink. I learned what makes me happy and force myself in that direction when I get down. There's nothing scientific about it.
Quote from: Suu on February 10, 2010, 04:00:41 PM
I refuse to take psychiatric medications, partly because I don't believe they all work, and partly because I've seen the damage they can do when they are over-prescribed or given for a mis-diagnosis.
My brother is severely ADHD, I watched Ritalin eat his emotions away and turn him into an obese, angry child.
My mother is bipolar and we have YET to find a prescription that balances her right.
A friend of mine was diagnosed with depression when she was 14 (wut, bad parenting ITT?) and is now stuck taking pills, because when she doesn't, she gets severe migraines.
It seems that antidepressants are so common now they can be handed out like candy to people who may have just be having a few down notes. Shit, I've been crying my eyes out for no reason at least once a week for a year and I still won't go see a shrink. I just deal with it. I'm in control of my own emotions, not some Big Pharma-fed Shrinkydink. I learned what makes me happy and force myself in that direction when I get down. There's nothing scientific about it.
That's a good point.
But I
like sitting in my office and feeling my bones melt.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2010, 04:01:34 PM
Quote from: Suu on February 10, 2010, 04:00:41 PM
I refuse to take psychiatric medications, partly because I don't believe they all work, and partly because I've seen the damage they can do when they are over-prescribed or given for a mis-diagnosis.
My brother is severely ADHD, I watched Ritalin eat his emotions away and turn him into an obese, angry child.
My mother is bipolar and we have YET to find a prescription that balances her right.
A friend of mine was diagnosed with depression when she was 14 (wut, bad parenting ITT?) and is now stuck taking pills, because when she doesn't, she gets severe migraines.
It seems that antidepressants are so common now they can be handed out like candy to people who may have just be having a few down notes. Shit, I've been crying my eyes out for no reason at least once a week for a year and I still won't go see a shrink. I just deal with it. I'm in control of my own emotions, not some Big Pharma-fed Shrinkydink. I learned what makes me happy and force myself in that direction when I get down. There's nothing scientific about it.
That's a good point.
But I like sitting in my office and feeling my bones melt.
There are other things you can take that aren't prescription to feel that. 8)
Quote from: Suu on February 10, 2010, 04:05:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2010, 04:01:34 PM
Quote from: Suu on February 10, 2010, 04:00:41 PM
I refuse to take psychiatric medications, partly because I don't believe they all work, and partly because I've seen the damage they can do when they are over-prescribed or given for a mis-diagnosis.
My brother is severely ADHD, I watched Ritalin eat his emotions away and turn him into an obese, angry child.
My mother is bipolar and we have YET to find a prescription that balances her right.
A friend of mine was diagnosed with depression when she was 14 (wut, bad parenting ITT?) and is now stuck taking pills, because when she doesn't, she gets severe migraines.
It seems that antidepressants are so common now they can be handed out like candy to people who may have just be having a few down notes. Shit, I've been crying my eyes out for no reason at least once a week for a year and I still won't go see a shrink. I just deal with it. I'm in control of my own emotions, not some Big Pharma-fed Shrinkydink. I learned what makes me happy and force myself in that direction when I get down. There's nothing scientific about it.
That's a good point.
But I like sitting in my office and feeling my bones melt.
There are other things you can take that aren't prescription to feel that. 8)
But I can't get fired for coming up hot on a piss test, if I have a prescription for what they find.
Plus, I don't like most highs. Horrible synthetic valium, however, gives me that melty feeling I can normally only get from watching old Blondie videos.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2010, 03:52:35 PM
Quote from: gin on February 10, 2010, 03:28:11 PM
I just suggested going to a family doctor first because a lot of people have to get a referral before their medical insurance will pay for them to see a psychiatrist. Of course, you should insist on seeing a psychiatrist before going on any medication.
Sure...if you never plan on owning guns or needing a clearance.
You're talking about going to see a psychiatrist and being on meds at all, or insisting on seeing a psychiatrist before going on meds? Does he want to own a gun or have a clearance later on in life?
Quote from: gin on February 10, 2010, 04:27:27 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2010, 03:52:35 PM
Quote from: gin on February 10, 2010, 03:28:11 PM
I just suggested going to a family doctor first because a lot of people have to get a referral before their medical insurance will pay for them to see a psychiatrist. Of course, you should insist on seeing a psychiatrist before going on any medication.
Sure...if you never plan on owning guns or needing a clearance.
You're talking about going to see a psychiatrist and being on meds at all, or insisting on seeing a psychiatrist before going on meds? Does he want to own a gun or have a clearance later on in life?
I know from personal experience that you can be totally off your face on pills for years, and you will never have a problem owning or purchasing a firearm. Go to a psychaitrist, and you're fucked.
Why limit your options?
Combine both options: go to your psychiatrist out of your face on pills and carrying a firearm.
I am full of excellent advice.
Quote from: Cain on February 10, 2010, 04:35:29 PM
Combine both options: go to your psychiatrist out of your face on pills and carrying a firearm.
I am full of excellent advice.
CAIN: Now also Redman!
Quote from: Cain on February 10, 2010, 04:35:29 PM
Combine both options: go to your psychiatrist out of your face on pills and carrying a firearm.
I am full of excellent advice.
This, :lulz:
:lulz:
fuck antidepressants. unless you have SEVERE depression (and I doubt you'd be unsure of that), they're likely to do way more harm than good. What's your diet like? In many cases, mild depression can be relieved or eliminated entirely by, you know, actually eating food that's GOOD for you and that your body is meant to eat rather than stuffing your face with overprocessed, sugar-filled, nutrient-free crap.
Plus exercise. mmmm endorphines.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2010, 04:13:19 PM
Quote from: Suu on February 10, 2010, 04:05:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2010, 04:01:34 PM
Quote from: Suu on February 10, 2010, 04:00:41 PM
I refuse to take psychiatric medications, partly because I don't believe they all work, and partly because I've seen the damage they can do when they are over-prescribed or given for a mis-diagnosis.
My brother is severely ADHD, I watched Ritalin eat his emotions away and turn him into an obese, angry child.
My mother is bipolar and we have YET to find a prescription that balances her right.
A friend of mine was diagnosed with depression when she was 14 (wut, bad parenting ITT?) and is now stuck taking pills, because when she doesn't, she gets severe migraines.
It seems that antidepressants are so common now they can be handed out like candy to people who may have just be having a few down notes. Shit, I've been crying my eyes out for no reason at least once a week for a year and I still won't go see a shrink. I just deal with it. I'm in control of my own emotions, not some Big Pharma-fed Shrinkydink. I learned what makes me happy and force myself in that direction when I get down. There's nothing scientific about it.
That's a good point.
But I like sitting in my office and feeling my bones melt.
There are other things you can take that aren't prescription to feel that. 8)
But I can't get fired for coming up hot on a piss test, if I have a prescription for what they find.
Plus, I don't like most highs. Horrible synthetic valium, however, gives me that melty feeling I can normally only get from watching old Blondie videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH3Q_CZy968
Quote from: Emerald City Hustle on February 10, 2010, 04:47:38 PM
fuck antidepressants. unless you have SEVERE depression (and I doubt you'd be unsure of that), they're likely to do way more harm than good. What's your diet like? In many cases, mild depression can be relieved or eliminated entirely by, you know, actually eating food that's GOOD for you and that your body is meant to eat rather than stuffing your face with overprocessed, sugar-filled, nutrient-free crap.
and
Quote from: gin on February 10, 2010, 04:49:32 PM
Plus exercise. mmmm endorphines.
In all seriousness, this is the 169% correct motorcycle.
Gin and ECH are riding the correct
motorcycle bicycle, a bit of exercise and some good food will make you happier than you'd expect.
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 10, 2010, 12:59:45 PM
Quote from: Rumckle on February 10, 2010, 11:42:05 AMI'd say see a psychiatrist before starting on anti depressants, to both see if you are really depressed, and to make sure you understand the effects of the medication.
Well, anti depressants aren't exactly OTC meds, right? So you'd have to see a psychiatrist anyway to get them prescribed?
In Australia they're not, I have no idea about the US.
Plus there are always less than legal ways of acquiring such things.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2010, 04:32:24 PM
I know from personal experience that you can be totally off your face on pills for years, and you will never have a problem owning or purchasing a firearm. Go to a psychaitrist, and you're fucked.
Seriously!?
:x
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2010, 03:52:35 PM
Quote from: gin on February 10, 2010, 03:28:11 PM
I just suggested going to a family doctor first because a lot of people have to get a referral before their medical insurance will pay for them to see a psychiatrist. Of course, you should insist on seeing a psychiatrist before going on any medication.
Sure...if you never plan on owning guns or needing a clearance.
I was under the care of a psychiatrist for years and it doesn't affect my ability to own guns. I'm not sure what kind of a "clearance" I would need that would be affected. It all depends on what you're seeing your psychiatrist for; a diagnosis of depression goes into your medical record exactly the same if it's diagnosed by a GP as if it's diagnosed by a psych, and while I don't know about anyone else, the GPs around here are ready to instantly diagnose you with depression and give you pills if you walk in and say "hey doc, I think I might be depressed".
A full assessment by a psychiatrist, and, if your depression is mild, trying alternate methods of dealing with it such as exercise, dietary changes, and light exposure are definitely in order if you want to do the best by yourself.
Quote from: Emerald City Hustle on February 10, 2010, 04:47:38 PM
fuck antidepressants. unless you have SEVERE depression (and I doubt you'd be unsure of that), they're likely to do way more harm than good. What's your diet like? In many cases, mild depression can be relieved or eliminated entirely by, you know, actually eating food that's GOOD for you and that your body is meant to eat rather than stuffing your face with overprocessed, sugar-filled, nutrient-free crap.
oooh ooooh ooooooh! This.
Aswell as that, a little bit of sun and playing in the dirt can help
Quote from: NotPublished on February 11, 2010, 01:01:42 AM
Aswell as that, a little bit of sun and playing in the dirt can help
HELL yes.
My beloved Surfer Boy has severe depression, and that's one of the reasons he surfs. After hours interacting with the water, in the sun, moving his (unbelievably beautiful :fap:) body, he feels just fine. For a while, at least. Winter is really hard on him.
I'm starting to feel weird for not suffering from depression!
Quote from: NotPublished on February 11, 2010, 01:29:29 AM
I'm starting to feel weird for not suffering from depression!
I don't have it, either.
I used to have it mildly, and it was situational. Never took drugs for it, just went to therapy about once a week.
I think I got it again. :sad:
The gun thing only applies if you actually get committed to a mental facility (even if it was voluntary).
Quote from: Requia ☣ on February 11, 2010, 05:44:44 AM
The gun thing only applies if you actually get committed to a mental facility (even if it was voluntary).
Oh, how interesting! That means my ex can't own guns. I never knew that.
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on February 11, 2010, 06:10:59 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on February 11, 2010, 05:44:44 AM
The gun thing only applies if you actually get committed to a mental facility (even if it was voluntary).
Oh, how interesting! That means my ex can't own guns. I never knew that.
WEll, it's mostly because his penis is soo small, any firearm he MAY/ WOULD choose to own, would in itself be illegal.
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on February 11, 2010, 01:23:03 AM
Quote from: NotPublished on February 11, 2010, 01:01:42 AM
Aswell as that, a little bit of sun and playing in the dirt can help
HELL yes.
My beloved Surfer Boy has severe depression, and that's one of the reasons he surfs. After hours interacting with the water, in the sun, moving his (unbelievably beautiful :fap:) body, he feels just fine. For a while, at least. Winter is really hard on him.
I'm sure LMNO could recomend a see - through wetsuit provider for him.
Quote from: Richter on February 11, 2010, 01:13:46 PM
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on February 11, 2010, 01:23:03 AM
Quote from: NotPublished on February 11, 2010, 01:01:42 AM
Aswell as that, a little bit of sun and playing in the dirt can help
HELL yes.
My beloved Surfer Boy has severe depression, and that's one of the reasons he surfs. After hours interacting with the water, in the sun, moving his (unbelievably beautiful :fap:) body, he feels just fine. For a while, at least. Winter is really hard on him.
I'm sure LMNO could recomend a see - through wetsuit provider for him.
I don't think it's the temperature. In the North Pacific, winter is when the dolphins go
bad.
Quote from: E.O.T. on February 11, 2010, 08:32:07 AM
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on February 11, 2010, 06:10:59 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on February 11, 2010, 05:44:44 AM
The gun thing only applies if you actually get committed to a mental facility (even if it was voluntary).
Oh, how interesting! That means my ex can't own guns. I never knew that.
WEll, it's mostly because his penis is soo small, any firearm he MAY/ WOULD choose to own, would in itself be illegal.
Hey now
I'm talking about the other ex. Who is, despite being a self-declared asshole, a dedicated pacifist.
Quote from: Richter on February 11, 2010, 01:13:46 PM
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on February 11, 2010, 01:23:03 AM
Quote from: NotPublished on February 11, 2010, 01:01:42 AM
Aswell as that, a little bit of sun and playing in the dirt can help
HELL yes.
My beloved Surfer Boy has severe depression, and that's one of the reasons he surfs. After hours interacting with the water, in the sun, moving his (unbelievably beautiful :fap:) body, he feels just fine. For a while, at least. Winter is really hard on him.
I'm sure LMNO could recomend a see - through wetsuit provider for him.
Anyone who came up with see-through wetsuits would make a fortune! :fap:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 11, 2010, 05:06:06 PM
Quote from: Richter on February 11, 2010, 01:13:46 PM
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on February 11, 2010, 01:23:03 AM
Quote from: NotPublished on February 11, 2010, 01:01:42 AM
Aswell as that, a little bit of sun and playing in the dirt can help
HELL yes.
My beloved Surfer Boy has severe depression, and that's one of the reasons he surfs. After hours interacting with the water, in the sun, moving his (unbelievably beautiful :fap:) body, he feels just fine. For a while, at least. Winter is really hard on him.
I'm sure LMNO could recomend a see - through wetsuit provider for him.
I don't think it's the temperature. In the North Pacific, winter is when the dolphins go bad.
Not to mention that the waters are teeming with sharks.
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on February 11, 2010, 05:31:11 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 11, 2010, 05:06:06 PM
Quote from: Richter on February 11, 2010, 01:13:46 PM
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on February 11, 2010, 01:23:03 AM
Quote from: NotPublished on February 11, 2010, 01:01:42 AM
Aswell as that, a little bit of sun and playing in the dirt can help
HELL yes.
My beloved Surfer Boy has severe depression, and that's one of the reasons he surfs. After hours interacting with the water, in the sun, moving his (unbelievably beautiful :fap:) body, he feels just fine. For a while, at least. Winter is really hard on him.
I'm sure LMNO could recomend a see - through wetsuit provider for him.
I don't think it's the temperature. In the North Pacific, winter is when the dolphins go bad.
Not to mention that the waters are teeming with sharks.
Yes, but when the dolphins put on leather jackets and white t-shirts and join The Sharks for the season,
look out.
Also, I just downloaded the quick form for gun purchases, and Requiem is correct. It is a stay in an institution that gets you.
So I retract my earlier argument, and I'm off to see where I've left my long term memory, who used to be a guy I trusted.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 11, 2010, 05:33:49 PM
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on February 11, 2010, 05:31:11 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 11, 2010, 05:06:06 PM
Quote from: Richter on February 11, 2010, 01:13:46 PM
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on February 11, 2010, 01:23:03 AM
Quote from: NotPublished on February 11, 2010, 01:01:42 AM
Aswell as that, a little bit of sun and playing in the dirt can help
HELL yes.
My beloved Surfer Boy has severe depression, and that's one of the reasons he surfs. After hours interacting with the water, in the sun, moving his (unbelievably beautiful :fap:) body, he feels just fine. For a while, at least. Winter is really hard on him.
I'm sure LMNO could recomend a see - through wetsuit provider for him.
I don't think it's the temperature. In the North Pacific, winter is when the dolphins go bad.
Not to mention that the waters are teeming with sharks.
Yes, but when the dolphins put on leather jackets and white t-shirts and join The Sharks for the season, look out.
Also, I just downloaded the quick form for gun purchases, and Requiem is correct. It is a stay in an institution that gets you.
So I retract my earlier argument, and I'm off to see where I've left my long term memory, who used to be a guy I trusted.
The memory thing is a real bitch, isn't it? Because I can remember random trivia from 15 years ago that nobody gives a shit about, but conversations from yesterday are just lost in the aether.
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on February 11, 2010, 08:10:00 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 11, 2010, 05:33:49 PM
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on February 11, 2010, 05:31:11 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 11, 2010, 05:06:06 PM
Quote from: Richter on February 11, 2010, 01:13:46 PM
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on February 11, 2010, 01:23:03 AM
Quote from: NotPublished on February 11, 2010, 01:01:42 AM
Aswell as that, a little bit of sun and playing in the dirt can help
HELL yes.
My beloved Surfer Boy has severe depression, and that's one of the reasons he surfs. After hours interacting with the water, in the sun, moving his (unbelievably beautiful :fap:) body, he feels just fine. For a while, at least. Winter is really hard on him.
I'm sure LMNO could recomend a see - through wetsuit provider for him.
I don't think it's the temperature. In the North Pacific, winter is when the dolphins go bad.
Not to mention that the waters are teeming with sharks.
Yes, but when the dolphins put on leather jackets and white t-shirts and join The Sharks for the season, look out.
Also, I just downloaded the quick form for gun purchases, and Requiem is correct. It is a stay in an institution that gets you.
So I retract my earlier argument, and I'm off to see where I've left my long term memory, who used to be a guy I trusted.
The memory thing is a real bitch, isn't it? Because I can remember random trivia from 15 years ago that nobody gives a shit about, but conversations from yesterday are just lost in the aether.
This. I am no longer a young man, and my brain is trying to be in the "cool crowd" that consists of my circulatory system and right knee.
Quote from: gin on February 10, 2010, 04:49:32 PM
Plus exercise. mmmm endorphines.
This.
Quote from: Emerald City Hustle on February 10, 2010, 04:47:38 PM
fuck antidepressants. unless you have SEVERE depression (and I doubt you'd be unsure of that), they're likely to do way more harm than good. What's your diet like? In many cases, mild depression can be relieved or eliminated entirely by, you know, actually eating food that's GOOD for you and that your body is meant to eat rather than stuffing your face with overprocessed, sugar-filled, nutrient-free crap.
...and this.
While you're at it, take an honest look at your life and evaluate what you don't like about it. Set some goals to change those things and start working towards the goals.
If doing these things don't help, then you should consider talking to a doctor.