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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: Jasper on February 10, 2010, 04:07:59 AM

Title: Is it just me...
Post by: Jasper on February 10, 2010, 04:07:59 AM
Sometimes I'm daydreaming, and without even closing my eyes I can see whatever I'm imagining.

It is distressing.
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: NotPublished on February 10, 2010, 04:14:49 AM
Hmm ... Is it more like you lose focus with your eyes, even though they are open; your not really concetrating but you somehow vaguely see what your thinking - but its not really the same as seeing with your eyes. (bad explanation)

I have gotten that a few times, when I'm on the train I'll just gaze out at anything.
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Jasper on February 10, 2010, 04:17:28 AM
It's like a weak hallucination.  It seems like while part of my mind can see what is really there, part of my mind is superimposing bizarre imagery over it. 
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: NotPublished on February 10, 2010, 04:21:14 AM
Oh then no. Thats cool!
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Jasper on February 10, 2010, 04:22:30 AM
It would be seriously uncool if I couldn't control it.

So I think I'll avoid doing it too much.
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: NotPublished on February 10, 2010, 04:25:54 AM
It might be worth looking into .. could be fun

http://www.schizophrenia.com/schizoph/hallucontrol.html (http://www.schizophrenia.com/schizoph/hallucontrol.html) - didn't read it yet .. but oh dear?
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Jasper on February 10, 2010, 04:43:17 AM
I have taken a few courses in psychology, and done a lot of personal study as well as working with schizophrenia sufferers firsthand.  I am roughly the right age for a psychotic break, but vivid imagination is not a precursor.

http://www.schizophrenia.com/earlysigns.htm

I don't have any of these signs.

Which is a relief.

Still, it is not without trepidation that I approach the phenomenon.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Jasper on February 10, 2010, 04:53:05 AM
Hahaaa!  Fun!

I like pretending to have x-ray vision and targeting reticles.
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Cain on February 10, 2010, 10:07:22 AM
Perhaps you are a Cylon?

QuoteNumber Six/Caprica Six also revealed that Cylons exist by 'projecting' an environment of their choice on the real/physical world.
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: LMNO on February 10, 2010, 01:57:36 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 10, 2010, 04:07:59 AM
Sometimes I'm daydreaming, and without even closing my eyes I can see whatever I'm imagining.

It is distressing.


I do that.  It's not so bad.
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Richter on February 10, 2010, 02:05:58 PM
Yeah, likely just a sign of a strong capability for visualization / visual memory.  I'll do this too when working on something, stare off into space while I play CAD studio inside the brain.
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on February 10, 2010, 02:20:16 PM
I thought everyone did this. I can't do overlays, though - that'd be awesome. I can either look at the real world or something I'm imagining. When I concentrate on one the other goes away.

Only time I've done overlays is when tripping and/or hallucinating
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Freeky on February 10, 2010, 06:02:51 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 10, 2010, 04:17:28 AM
It seems like while part of my mind can see what is really there, part of my mind is superimposing bizarre imagery over it. 

I can do this.
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2010, 06:05:29 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on February 10, 2010, 06:02:51 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 10, 2010, 04:17:28 AM
It seems like while part of my mind can see what is really there, part of my mind is superimposing bizarre imagery over it. 

I can do this.

I do it regardless.
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Jasper on February 10, 2010, 06:35:51 PM
Omigawd, I was listening to this 'here to go' remix in the car, and I got this great music video of vector arrows popping out of everything, and equations flying all over the place.

So cool.
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2010, 06:42:20 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 10, 2010, 06:35:51 PM
Omigawd, I was listening to this 'here to go' remix in the car, and I got this great music video of vector arrows popping out of everything, and equations flying all over the place.

So cool.

Interesting.  I've been having visual illusions for a few weeks now.  I wonder if something is going around?
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Jasper on February 10, 2010, 06:46:54 PM
Can message boards serve as a vector for collective insanity?
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2010, 06:47:34 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 10, 2010, 06:46:54 PM
Can message boards serve as a vector for collective insanity?

Since the psycho letters started, I'm thinking yes.
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Jasper on February 10, 2010, 06:48:27 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2010, 06:47:34 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 10, 2010, 06:46:54 PM
Can message boards serve as a vector for collective insanity?

Since the psycho letters started, I'm thinking yes.

Good news, everybody!
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Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 11, 2010, 01:16:59 AM
Sometimes there's a post-apocalyptic world overlaid on this one, ever since I was a kid. Not bombed-out or anything, just underpopulated and falling apart. It was pretty rad, walking around looking at things all decayed and overgrown. I definitely see it a lot less now, but it delights me when I find places (like the mausoleum) that are like that for real. It's kind of comforting.
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Nast on February 11, 2010, 05:54:38 AM
When I was a kid and was dragged around on errands by my parents, to alleviate the boredom I viewed the stores as levels in a platformer videogame. Needless to say I annoyed my parents by hiding under clothing racks, only stepping on certain color tiles, or collecting things found on the ground.
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Nast on February 11, 2010, 05:57:07 AM
Now all I see is homeless people.  :sad:
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 11, 2010, 05:58:34 AM
Quote from: Nast on February 11, 2010, 05:57:07 AM
Now all I see is homeless people.  :sad:

Like that kid in the Sixth Sense?
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Lies on February 11, 2010, 05:59:40 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 10, 2010, 06:35:51 PM
Omigawd, I was listening to this 'here to go' remix in the car, and I got this great music video of vector arrows popping out of everything, and equations flying all over the place.

So cool.

I think you might be suffering from synesthesia...

This could be a good thing, if you learn how to use it to your advantage.

Lots of techniques to remember things and add up numbers really fast rely on it.
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Nast on February 11, 2010, 06:14:10 AM
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on February 11, 2010, 05:58:34 AM
Quote from: Nast on February 11, 2010, 05:57:07 AM
Now all I see is homeless people.  :sad:

Like that kid in the Sixth Sense?

Nah, like for real real homeless people. Undressing in public, staring with dead eyes into the distance, muttering to themselves; you know, doing homeless people stuff.
Our mild climate brings them out this time of year.
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Shai Hulud on February 11, 2010, 06:15:38 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on February 11, 2010, 05:59:40 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 10, 2010, 06:35:51 PM
Omigawd, I was listening to this 'here to go' remix in the car, and I got this great music video of vector arrows popping out of everything, and equations flying all over the place.

So cool.

I think you might be suffering from synesthesia...

This could be a good thing, if you learn how to use it to your advantage.

Lots of techniques to remember things and add up numbers really fast rely on it.

According to wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia), "It is estimated that synesthesia could possibly be as prevalent as 1 in 23 persons across its range of variants."

[Edit: After reading most of that synesthesia article, it doesn't really sound like that is what the OP describes, though.  From what I can tell from the article, synesthesia involves two different overlapping senses, at least the variations described in the article seem like they involve two distinct, overlapping senses.  But then again, that's only based on the wiki article, I don't really have any clue.  What about the OP makes you think synesthesia, Lysergic?]
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 11, 2010, 06:22:41 AM
Quote from: Guy Incognito on February 11, 2010, 06:15:38 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on February 11, 2010, 05:59:40 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 10, 2010, 06:35:51 PM
Omigawd, I was listening to this 'here to go' remix in the car, and I got this great music video of vector arrows popping out of everything, and equations flying all over the place.

So cool.

I think you might be suffering from synesthesia...

This could be a good thing, if you learn how to use it to your advantage.

Lots of techniques to remember things and add up numbers really fast rely on it.

According to wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia), "It is estimated that synesthesia could possibly be as prevalent as 1 in 23 persons across its range of variants."

I experience it, as does my weird math savant friend. It seems pretty common.
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Shai Hulud on February 11, 2010, 06:31:48 AM
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on February 11, 2010, 06:22:41 AM

I experience it, as does my weird math savant friend. It seems pretty common.

Oh, cool!  What's it like?  I've always been pretty fascinated by that sort of thing. I've never "heard a color" or anything like that and I can't imagine how it must be to process sensory information in a nonstandard way.  Must be pretty intense, huh?
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Jasper on February 11, 2010, 07:14:05 AM
The closest thing to synaesthesia for me is the way my mind likes to interpret music as movement.  For instance a certain kind of techno might feel like a dogfight in fast-forward to me.  Often, it's really visceral and it really seems like I'm experiencing high-gee forces.
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 11, 2010, 07:15:18 AM
Quote from: Guy Incognito on February 11, 2010, 06:31:48 AM
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on February 11, 2010, 06:22:41 AM

I experience it, as does my weird math savant friend. It seems pretty common.

Oh, cool!  What's it like?  I've always been pretty fascinated by that sort of thing. I've never "heard a color" or anything like that and I can't imagine how it must be to process sensory information in a nonstandard way.  Must be pretty intense, huh?

Not really; it's pretty mundane. I suspect that more people experience this than most people think, in one form or another. Colors have smells and/or flavors, words have textures and temperatures, especially names. Sounds have physical sensations, like raspy or sticky. Not ALL colors or words or sounds, but some of them. For my friend, numbers have personalities. Sometimes even life stories and relationships with each other. I loved it when she was telling me about the primes. Some of them even DATED each other, or were married and had kids.

If you think about it, for an artist some form of synaesthesia seems almost like it would be necessary, and it certainly seems pretty helpful in math as well. I can't conceive of being able to do what I do if I didn't know, for instance, that some shades of pink are sweeter than others or that green-yellows and yellow-greens smell like vinegar.  
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 11, 2010, 07:17:05 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 11, 2010, 07:14:05 AM
The closest thing to synaesthesia for me is the way my mind likes to interpret music as movement.  For instance a certain kind of techno might feel like a dogfight in fast-forward to me.  Often, it's really visceral and it really seems like I'm experiencing high-gee forces.

That's totally what I mean; that's a form of synaesthesia, and I think that almost everyone has it with something. It's just that it's so completely normal that they don't think of it as anything other than how their senses work.
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Jasper on February 11, 2010, 07:17:40 AM
Also, I can't be the only guy who balks whenever I see "red" or "blue" flavored sports beverages.
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 11, 2010, 07:27:26 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 11, 2010, 07:17:40 AM
Also, I can't be the only guy who balks whenever I see "red" or "blue" flavored sports beverages.

Mmmmmm, delicious red! Everyone's favorite flavor!
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Lies on February 11, 2010, 07:37:57 AM
Quote from: Guy Incognito on February 11, 2010, 06:15:38 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on February 11, 2010, 05:59:40 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 10, 2010, 06:35:51 PM
Omigawd, I was listening to this 'here to go' remix in the car, and I got this great music video of vector arrows popping out of everything, and equations flying all over the place.

So cool.

I think you might be suffering from synesthesia...

This could be a good thing, if you learn how to use it to your advantage.

Lots of techniques to remember things and add up numbers really fast rely on it.

According to wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia), "It is estimated that synesthesia could possibly be as prevalent as 1 in 23 persons across its range of variants."

[Edit: After reading most of that synesthesia article, it doesn't really sound like that is what the OP describes, though.  From what I can tell from the article, synesthesia involves two different overlapping senses, at least the variations described in the article seem like they involve two distinct, overlapping senses.  But then again, that's only based on the wiki article, I don't really have any clue.  What about the OP makes you think synesthesia, Lysergic?]

If op is seeing shit when they listen to music, they're synesthesics.
There is differing levels of synesthesia, some more intense then others, and all different and subjective on the individual.

Numbers or letters with personalities, or flavours, or colours, and such, music with shapes and personalities and such, all these things mean you're synesthesic.
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Jasper on February 11, 2010, 07:43:45 AM
I think everybody is, to a small degree.  My favorite neuroscientist says so.

http://matthewjamestaylor.com/blog/the-synesthesia-condition-explained  
(Skip to about 21:10 for the part I'm talking about)
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 11, 2010, 07:46:13 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 11, 2010, 07:43:45 AM
I think everybody is, to a small degree.  My favorite neuroscientist says so.

http://matthewjamestaylor.com/blog/the-synesthesia-condition-explained  
(Skip to about 21:10 for the part I'm talking about)

Yay! I will have to watch that in its entirety tomorrow.
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 11, 2010, 07:47:06 AM
Also, "red" is the grossest flavor because it tastes like paraffin wax with a hint of quinine.
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Jasper on February 11, 2010, 07:52:17 AM
:vom:
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Lies on February 11, 2010, 08:25:05 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 11, 2010, 07:43:45 AM
I think everybody is, to a small degree.  My favorite neuroscientist says so.

http://matthewjamestaylor.com/blog/the-synesthesia-condition-explained  
(Skip to about 21:10 for the part I'm talking about)

Most likely, yes, in some ways, we all have it.

Myself, I've actually managed to "induce" a "type" of synesthesia in order to recall really long numbers, and remember the order of a deck of cards and such.

Really handy thing to develop.
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Lies on February 11, 2010, 10:37:03 AM
Quote from: Horrendous Foreign Love Stoat on February 11, 2010, 08:40:13 AM
bet that's great with international phone numbers and a brilliant ice breaker at parties and the such.

You have no idea.

The second I start naming all the cards in the deck for just one person, the whole fucking room WILL pay attention.
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 27, 2012, 07:16:09 PM
Bump

Not the thread I was thinking of, but I couldn't find the other one.
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Epimetheus on May 27, 2012, 07:51:47 PM
Hmm, I wonder how common it is.
I know that my entire childhood I never thought my personification/coloring of the numbers and letters was "unusual" - I guess I just assumed that's the normal way to experience/interact with those symbols. Never mentioned it to anyone back then, of course.

The interesting thing about my numbers is that, with the exception of 7, their colors follow a rainbow order. This makes me think my associations may come from a book I read, or a toy I used, when I was first learning the numbers, but I have no idea what that book might be.
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 27, 2012, 08:49:30 PM
Quote from: Epimetheus on May 27, 2012, 07:51:47 PM
Hmm, I wonder how common it is.
I know that my entire childhood I never thought my personification/coloring of the numbers and letters was "unusual" - I guess I just assumed that's the normal way to experience/interact with those symbols. Never mentioned it to anyone back then, of course.

The interesting thing about my numbers is that, with the exception of 7, their colors follow a rainbow order. This makes me think my associations may come from a book I read, or a toy I used, when I was first learning the numbers, but I have no idea what that book might be.

From what I've read fairly recently, it's very, very common, but still rather poorly understood.
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 27, 2012, 09:15:05 PM
I never got any of that without, erm, sacraments.

Sometimes when I'm walking around I'll get time periods. Like I'm looking at the sidewalk and the side of a building and my mind will flash "1940s" or "1880s" or whatever. I'll get a whole picture of the surroundings in my head with old cars or buggys and people in period dress. It doesn't interfere and I can make it stop just by looking up, but I kind of enjoy it.

Brains are weird.  :)
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 28, 2012, 12:07:24 AM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 27, 2012, 09:15:05 PM
I never got any of that without, erm, sacraments.

Sometimes when I'm walking around I'll get time periods. Like I'm looking at the sidewalk and the side of a building and my mind will flash "1940s" or "1880s" or whatever. I'll get a whole picture of the surroundings in my head with old cars or buggys and people in period dress. It doesn't interfere and I can make it stop just by looking up, but I kind of enjoy it.

Brains are weird.  :)

That's pretty cool! I get something like that except everything is in ruins and all overgrown.
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 28, 2012, 12:15:07 AM
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on May 28, 2012, 12:07:24 AM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 27, 2012, 09:15:05 PM
I never got any of that without, erm, sacraments.

Sometimes when I'm walking around I'll get time periods. Like I'm looking at the sidewalk and the side of a building and my mind will flash "1940s" or "1880s" or whatever. I'll get a whole picture of the surroundings in my head with old cars or buggys and people in period dress. It doesn't interfere and I can make it stop just by looking up, but I kind of enjoy it.

Brains are weird.  :)

That's pretty cool! I get  something like that except everything is in ruins and all overgrown.

Sounds like I get "past" and you get "future".  :lol:
Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 28, 2012, 12:21:29 AM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 28, 2012, 12:15:07 AM
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on May 28, 2012, 12:07:24 AM
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 27, 2012, 09:15:05 PM
I never got any of that without, erm, sacraments.

Sometimes when I'm walking around I'll get time periods. Like I'm looking at the sidewalk and the side of a building and my mind will flash "1940s" or "1880s" or whatever. I'll get a whole picture of the surroundings in my head with old cars or buggys and people in period dress. It doesn't interfere and I can make it stop just by looking up, but I kind of enjoy it.

Brains are weird.  :)

That's pretty cool! I get  something like that except everything is in ruins and all overgrown.

Sounds like I get "past" and you get "future".  :lol:

:lol: Yeah, something like that. Apparently my brain has been in apocalypse mode since childhood.