Okey-Dokey.
I've made reasonably sure I wasn't stepping on Peleus' toes, or at least that he didn't mind if I did, before I did this.
If you guys don't like this, just say so and I will nuke it, or let it sit and rot, and keep my piece to myself concerning this project and just go along with whatever.
If the job I'm doing gathering is not up to snuff, if I've overlooked or missed something, or if I've made some erroneous attribution, please let me know and I will correct it. Or if you think it could use some tweaking, also let me know.
The goal here is to create a repository of info concerning this deck so that we can gether as much info and input as possible, then blend for consistency. Whatever the deck looks like in the end should be up to all of us, in as much consensus as we can manage.
I will gather details throughout the peedy thread and update this OP as needed so we all know where we are, who requested what, and so on. My personal thought on the matter is that we'll do well to just throw out as many ideas as possible, and then extract the very best. Whatever that means.
The important thing to remember is THIS IS ALL SUBJECT TO CHANGE AS WE SEE IT.
-The Deck-
Unfinished Business:
-Five suits have been discussed, possibly just as the number 5. Are we doing this y/n?
-If so, what should the 5th suit be?
-Is it the fnord? I'm not clear on this.
-Do we definitely want these to be the theme of the suits?
-If not, what then?
-Adding an additional court/face card has been discussed. What will it be?
-What will the nature of our court/face cards be?
It has been mentioned using certain PD.com memes/common subjects/obsessions and integrating them into the deck.
Example:
The Suit of Wands = Dildoes
The Suit of Cups = Mustaches
The Suit of Discs = 0's
Our suits thus far are:
Dildoes
Caramel Apple of Dildoes
Bicycle of Dildoes
Tricycle-of-Dildoes
Geometry of Dildoes
Pyramid of Dildoes
HalfaDozenoftheOther of Dildoes
Chinese Take-Out of Dildoes
Hot Pepper of Dildoes
Catfish of Dildoes
Purple of Dildoes
Court
Ratatosk - Squirrel of Dildoes
Horseman of the Apocalypse of Dildoes
Elvis Impersonator of Dildoes
Eris of Dildoes
Sharps
Apple of Arrows
Bicycle of Camping Knives
Tricycle of Potato-Chip-Bag-Opening Utensils
Geometry of Utility Knives
Pyramid of Occams Razor Rusting
HalfaDozenoftheOther of I Ching Wand Carving Knives
Chinese Take-Out of Cleavers
Hot Pepper of PaperCuts
Bass of FishHooks
Purple of Grape-Peeling-Axes
Court
Squirrel over Lawnmowers
Horseman of the Apocalypse of Razor Blades
Elvis Impersonator of Hairstylists
Eris of the Most Unkindest Cut of All
Zeros
Apple of Zeros
Bicycle of Zeros
Tricycle of Zeros
Geometry of Zeros
Pyramid of Floppies
HalfaDozenoftheOther of Zeros
Chinese Take-Out of Zeros
Hot Pepper of Zeros
Halibut of Zeros
Purple of Zeros
Court
Squirrel of Zeros
Horseman of the Apocalypse of Zeros
Elvis Impersonator of Zeros
Eris of Zeros
Mustaches
Apple of Mustaches
Bicycle of Mustaches
Tricycle of Mustaches
Geometry (Topology) of Mustaches
Pyramid of Mustaches
HalfaDozenoftheOther of Mustaches
Chinese Take-Out of Mustaches
Hot Pepper of Mustaches
Goldfish of Mustaches
Purple of Mustaches
Court
Squirrel of Mustaches
Horseman of the Apocalypse of Mustaches
Elvis Impersonator of Mustaches
Eris of Mustaches
major/trumps
Unfinished Business:
-Are we going fully traditional? y/n?
-Are the people laying claim to the card being featured in it AND working on the card? This is actually a general question for the deck.
Wiki's
0 The Fool
1 The Magician / The Juggler
2 The High Priestess / The Popess
3 The Empress
4 The Emperor
5 The Hierophant / The Pope
6 The Lovers
7 The Chariot
8 Justice
9 The Hermit
10 Wheel of Fortune
11 Strength / Fortitude
12 The Hanged Man / The Traitor
13 Death
14 Temperance
15 The Devil
16 The Tower / Fire
17 The Star
18 The Moon
19 The Sun
20 Judgment / The Angel
21 The World
out of order
0 The Fool
1 The Sucker
2 The Goose in the Bottle
3 The Sacred Chao
4 The Garden
5 The Bureaucrat
So of S.:O.:
6 Love
7 ROADTRIP!!!
8 Slack (tm)
9 Trickster
10 Meta
11 Curiosity Killed Schrödinger's Cat
12 Sex and Death Candy
13 Darwin Award
14 Elements
15 the devilWild(er)ness Weirdness
16 the tower Stupidity IR SMRT
17 Everything is true
18 Angst The Emo
19 Dr. Marten's Boots Wade's boots
20 Grandmotherly Kindness
21 Space time
ddeck's
1 Sacred Cow: a sacred cow.
2 A Pope: querent, i.e. for whom the cards are read, or anybody really.
3 The Initiate: one who seeks knowledge
4 The Illuminate: one who dispenses knowledge
5 The Believer: one who accepts ideas
6 The Skeptic: one who rejects ideas
7 The Flower: sex, drugs, hedonism
8 The Trout: humor and laughter
9 Conspiracy: the plot behind all coincidence
10 Joker: wild card, means whatever
11 Net of Synchronicity: the cosmic force behind all coincidence
12 This Discordian Deck: this deck
13 The Big Bang: eristic creation
14 The Great Pyramid: aneristic creation
15 Radioactivity: aneristic destruction
16 The Tower of Babel: eristic destruction
17 The Discordian Society: folk of chaos
18 The Bavarian Illuminati: folk of order
19 Greyface: person of order
20 Eris: person of chaos
21 The Golden Apple: eristic forces
22 The Pentagon: aneristic forces
23 The Sacred Chao: balance of hodge and podge
Regardless of our choices, people have laid claim to these cards:
Courts
King of Swords -
Queen of Swords - Sparkley Pink Shit
Knight of Swords - Cain
Page of Swords -
Princess of Swords -
King of Wands - Cram
Queen of Wands -
Knight of Wands -
Page of Wands - Enki][
Princess of Wands -
King of Cups -
Queen of Cups - Mistress Freeky
Knight of Cups - Joh'nyx, EoC (fight to death)
Page Of Cups - 000
Princess of Cups - Nast
King of Cups -
Queen of Discs - Nigel
Knight of Discs - Jason
Page of Discs -
Princess of Discs -
major Trumps
These are nowhere near in order yet.
IR SMRT - yatto I don't know what this is. :lulz:
0 The Fool (1) - Dimo
1 The Magician - Doktor Howl
2 The High Priestess - Jenne
3 The Empress - Suu
4 The Emperor -
5 The Hierophant -
6 The Lovers - Pix/Payne (Has been suggested, no verified)
7 The Chariot - Faust
8 Justice - Cramulus
9 The Hermit - Herbertina Merrique V
10 Wheel of Fortune -
11 Strength - 000 (suggested not confirmed)
12 The Hanged Man - LMNO
13 Death - NotPublished
14 Temperance - EOT
15 The Devil - Peleus
16 The Tower - Babylonhoruv
17 The Star - Nigel
18 The Moon - Squid aka Turdley
19 The Sun - Mistress Freeky
20 Judgment -
21 The World - Roaring Biscuit
For simplicity's sake I will keep these cards attributed to their Rider-Waite labels until we've got this all sorted.
Feel free to use (modded or unmodded) the womp cards I posted in the other thread.
Thanks.
I was actually planning one more thread for the cards themselves only. I don't know if that's overkill, but I'm sort of obsessive compulsive about separating and isolating things like that when it comes to creative work.
Don't forget E.O.T. as Temperance!
Done.
Quote from: Alty on February 14, 2010, 02:56:01 AM
Thanks.
I was actually planning one more thread for the cards themselves only. I don't know if that's overkill, but I'm sort of obsessive compulsive about separating and isolating things like that when it comes to creative work.
Also, the BIP Wiki.
If you add [[Category:Tarot Discordia]] at the bottom of each page, you can give each card its own page and it will all appear nicely automatically on the Tarot Discordia category index page.
IIRC if you (still?!! shame,
shaaaaaame) don't have a login to edit the BIP wiki, PM RWHN or Cram I think they can hand out logins [I cannot, despite all my magical admin power]
I would suggest against using the same name for every number.
(Bicycle of Dildoes as the two, Bicycle of Mustaches, Bicycle of Swords, Bicycle of Zeroes) It means you are replacing the number instead of actually giving the card a name.
I am quite sure we can come up with an amusing name for each and every one of the cards if that is what we want (Crowley does this in his Book of Thoth deck and it does make reading with it easier)
We could possibly do some sort of thematic repetition between the lesser and greater bicycles and tricycles of each suit. This would make the Ace and two the lower bicycle and the 6 and 7 the greater bicycle, 3,4,5 would be the lower tricycle and 8,9,10 would be the greater bicycle. That sort of nested hidden symbology is all over in tarot, but if it looks like too much work never mind.
i wanted to merge two and threes of each suit,
if you read say two reverse its very simular to three,
read three reverse its very simular to two of the same suit
as for each suit, naming them now seems a bit limiting,
when creating them name either the blah of blank or number of blank
while the minor discordia names are cute, but too pdish, arent we in the bip age?
fnords was merely an attempt to rename suits
swords= shit (poker spades)
penta/disc=zeros (poker diamonds)
wands=dildos (poker clubs)
cups=cups (poker hearts)
fnord=moustaches ?
ETA: fixt
as you can see in the Bureaucracy thread (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=24162)
the cups court cards have new adjectives, but still include the word cups
Quote from: Pēleus on February 15, 2010, 05:18:16 AM
as for each suit, naming them now seems a bit limiting,
when creating them name either the blah of blank or number of blank
while the minor discordia names are cute, but too pdish, arent we in the bip age?
fnords was merely an attempt to rename suits
swords= shit (poker clubs)
penta/disc=zeros
wands=dildos (poker spades?)
cups=cups (poker hearts)
moustaches (poker: diamonds)
as you can see in the Bureaucracy thread (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=24162)
the cups court cards have new adjectives, but still include the word cups
Traditionally swords match spades and clubs match wands. (also pentagrams/discs match diamonds.)
i figured including the poker symbol might help unify the cards a bit