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Title: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Richter on February 18, 2010, 05:58:54 PM
Clearing a few thigns up for the everyone else.

1. "Mad Science", "Science!", "Mad Scientist", etc. - We're really talking about enthusiastic research, and freelance, if not improvisational engineering.  This point has been made before, likely in XKCD. 

2. "Destroy the world!" - Unless we've got planet crackers, nukes, atmosphere burners, etc., on hand, likely we're not ACTUALLY going too destroy the WHOLE world.  We likely want to change things in a very speedy, and uncertain way.  Before you get all James Bond and decide to charge off and stop us, please consider that no one is celebrated for saving the world.  It's SUPPOSED to be saved.  You'll be thanked once and shuffled off home, at best.  At worst, you'll be living Jack Bauer's recurring serious of REALLY awful days.  Letting things go down and watchign everythign re-settle will be much more worthwhile, we promise. 
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 06:20:37 PM
I'm kind of actually wanting to destroy the world.  :sad:

It's the only way to get all the humans.
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Richter on February 18, 2010, 06:24:36 PM
I've got ideas for that, actually.  Thump a supercaldera REALLY hard.
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 06:25:45 PM
Quote from: Richter on February 18, 2010, 06:24:36 PM
I've got ideas for that, actually.  Thump a supercaldera REALLY hard.

Yellowstone is nice this time of year, I gather.
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Elder Iptuous on February 18, 2010, 06:41:54 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 06:25:45 PM
Quote from: Richter on February 18, 2010, 06:24:36 PM
I've got ideas for that, actually.  Thump a supercaldera REALLY hard.

Yellowstone is nice this time of year, I gather.

Record numbers of quake swarms from what i've heard, too.
and getting closer to the surface!

That bitch is absolutely pining to be penetrated!
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 06:49:01 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on February 18, 2010, 06:41:54 PM

Record numbers of quake swarms from what i've heard, too.
and getting closer to the surface!

You need to stop getting your news at GIM/GLP.  I have yet to find a reputable source for that.
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Elder Iptuous on February 18, 2010, 06:52:40 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 06:49:01 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on February 18, 2010, 06:41:54 PM

Record numbers of quake swarms from what i've heard, too.
and getting closer to the surface!

You need to stop getting your news at GIM/GLP.  I have yet to find a reputable source for that.

you mean i bought all that toilet paper and bottled water for nothing?!
fuck.
:lol:

I just like acting as a vector for spreading apocalyptic rumors... you can understand that, right?  :)
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 06:54:23 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on February 18, 2010, 06:52:40 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 06:49:01 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on February 18, 2010, 06:41:54 PM

Record numbers of quake swarms from what i've heard, too.
and getting closer to the surface!

You need to stop getting your news at GIM/GLP.  I have yet to find a reputable source for that.

you mean i bought all that toilet paper and bottled water for nothing?!
fuck.
:lol:

I just like acting as a vector for spreading apocalyptic rumors... you can understand that, right?  :)

Ah, gotcha.  I should get into that more often.

It's just that you're tainted by GIM. :lol:
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Elder Iptuous on February 18, 2010, 06:57:16 PM
Yeah, well.  a common refrain around that place is, 'i came to learn about gold, and stuck around for the crazy'... it fits...

also i have to take umbrage with you saying that i am a frequenter of GLP, as that is a COINTELPRO CIA front that i will have nothing to do with.  GIM told me so...  :wink:
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 06:58:57 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on February 18, 2010, 06:57:16 PM
Yeah, well.  a common refrain around that place is, 'i came to learn about gold, and stuck around for the crazy'... it fits...

also i have to take umbrage with you saying that i am a frequenter of GLP, as that is a COINTELPRO CIA front that i will have nothing to do with.  GIM told me so...  :wink:

As far as I can see, it was "I came to learn about gold, and stuck around to shout about the JOOOOOOOOOOOZ!"
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Elder Iptuous on February 18, 2010, 07:05:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 06:58:57 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on February 18, 2010, 06:57:16 PM
Yeah, well.  a common refrain around that place is, 'i came to learn about gold, and stuck around for the crazy'... it fits...

also i have to take umbrage with you saying that i am a frequenter of GLP, as that is a COINTELPRO CIA front that i will have nothing to do with.  GIM told me so...  :wink:

As far as I can see, it was "I came to learn about gold, and stuck around to shout about the JOOOOOOOOOOOZ!"

Yeah, the nazi influx waxes and wanes.  right now we're getting a relative breather...  at the time you poked around there was a good number of them all frothy.

I need to make an alt on there that is openly jewish, and get a good repetoir of insults, with a victimized tone to them so that i might not activate the 'no personal attacks' rule....
what's the phrase from the nazi prop? "he strikes you as he cries out", or something? i might be able to take a few down with me before getting banned as an instigator...
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Rococo Modem Basilisk on February 18, 2010, 07:19:38 PM
There *are* ways of taking out just the humans without destroying the rest, but they are kind of hard to do trials on. Viruses come to mind.
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 07:21:45 PM
Quote from: Enki v. 2.0 on February 18, 2010, 07:19:38 PM
There *are* ways of taking out just the humans without destroying the rest, but they are kind of hard to do trials on. Viruses come to mind.

Bullshit.  Humans fuck faster than you can shoot them OR infect them.  If smallpox didn't do it, SARS doesn't have a chance.  And what about that vaunted pig thing?  Bah!

No, the whole planet has to go.
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Richter on February 18, 2010, 07:30:21 PM
Quote from: Horrendous Foreign Love Stoat on February 18, 2010, 07:13:05 PM
Quote2. "Destroy the world!" - Unless we've got planet crackers, nukes, atmosphere burners, etc., on hand, likely we're not ACTUALLY going too destroy the WHOLE world.

That's sane thinking there. You'll get us kicked out of the union for that sort of talk! Stop it right now, rub your hands together in evil glee and/or make a finger pyramid have yourself a good old chuckle and fire up something that goes 'crackle crackle' and makes pretty sparks and has an interesting light/shadow effect. Like Denver or something.

Hey, did I piss on your parade when you went back in time to make the mole rats naked?
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 07:31:56 PM
Quote from: Richter on February 18, 2010, 07:30:21 PM
Quote from: Horrendous Foreign Love Stoat on February 18, 2010, 07:13:05 PM
Quote2. "Destroy the world!" - Unless we've got planet crackers, nukes, atmosphere burners, etc., on hand, likely we're not ACTUALLY going too destroy the WHOLE world.

That's sane thinking there. You'll get us kicked out of the union for that sort of talk! Stop it right now, rub your hands together in evil glee and/or make a finger pyramid have yourself a good old chuckle and fire up something that goes 'crackle crackle' and makes pretty sparks and has an interesting light/shadow effect. Like Denver or something.

Hey, did I piss on your parade when you went back in time to make the mole rats naked?

Makes it easier to get the CHUD to breed with them.
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Rococo Modem Basilisk on February 18, 2010, 08:09:40 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 07:21:45 PM
Quote from: Enki v. 2.0 on February 18, 2010, 07:19:38 PM
There *are* ways of taking out just the humans without destroying the rest, but they are kind of hard to do trials on. Viruses come to mind.

Bullshit.  Humans fuck faster than you can shoot them OR infect them.  If smallpox didn't do it, SARS doesn't have a chance.  And what about that vaunted pig thing?  Bah!

No, the whole planet has to go.

What I had in mind was an STD that causes fatal birth defects, and eventually kills the spread vectors. The faster they fuck, the faster they die.
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 08:11:00 PM
Quote from: Enki v. 2.0 on February 18, 2010, 08:09:40 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 07:21:45 PM
Quote from: Enki v. 2.0 on February 18, 2010, 07:19:38 PM
There *are* ways of taking out just the humans without destroying the rest, but they are kind of hard to do trials on. Viruses come to mind.

Bullshit.  Humans fuck faster than you can shoot them OR infect them.  If smallpox didn't do it, SARS doesn't have a chance.  And what about that vaunted pig thing?  Bah!

No, the whole planet has to go.

What I had in mind was an STD that causes fatal birth defects, and eventually kills the spread vectors. The faster they fuck, the faster they die.

Yes, this is why AIDS stopped population growth in Africa, right?

STDs are a non-starter.
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Elder Iptuous on February 18, 2010, 08:33:59 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 08:11:00 PM
Yes, this is why AIDS stopped population growth in Africa, right?

STDs are a non-starter.

the STD should cause no outward signs of sickness and only produce sterility... and why would you want it to kill the host? that only increases the chance that it will be detected and treated....
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Richter on February 18, 2010, 08:34:37 PM
Quote from: Horrendous Foreign Love Stoat on February 18, 2010, 07:41:57 PM
QuoteHey, did I piss on your parade when you went back in time to make the mole rats naked?

God yeah. Good times. Good times. Bic Razor, half a gallon of KY, time machine and big pointy stick. . .

If I remember rightly it was your idea that I should try and be my own ancestor while I was back there. God, Urgrandmother Love Stoat was paradoxically HAWT for a tree dwelling rat. On the downside, I'm not too sure I like this tail nub and extra toe that turned up when I got back.

Man that was a hoot.  Almost beats the time we invented elephants to win that bar bet.
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: The Wizard on February 18, 2010, 08:37:10 PM
Destroying the world would be fun, but you can't really enjoy the aftermath, even if you have escaped in a spaceship. I would personally just like to destabilize the whole shit pile. Shatter governments, redirect revolutions, stuff like that. Putting a whoopie cushion beneath the entire damn species.
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 08:45:09 PM
Quote from: Dr. James Semaj on February 18, 2010, 08:37:10 PM
Destroying the world would be fun, but you can't really enjoy the aftermath,

I'll settle for a maniacal laugh as the ground under my feet breaks up.
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: The Wizard on February 18, 2010, 08:46:12 PM
QuoteI'll settle for a maniacal laugh as the ground under my feet breaks up.

Each to their own. I prefer to be able to make return performances.
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 09:38:19 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on February 18, 2010, 08:33:59 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 08:11:00 PM
Yes, this is why AIDS stopped population growth in Africa, right?

STDs are a non-starter.

the STD should cause no outward signs of sickness and only produce sterility... and why would you want it to kill the host? that only increases the chance that it will be detected and treated....


Yeah, but the "Quiverfull" spags would still be around, and that would leave the world to nobody but the weirdest religious fanatics.
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Elder Iptuous on February 18, 2010, 10:03:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 09:38:19 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on February 18, 2010, 08:33:59 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 08:11:00 PM
Yes, this is why AIDS stopped population growth in Africa, right?

STDs are a non-starter.

the STD should cause no outward signs of sickness and only produce sterility... and why would you want it to kill the host? that only increases the chance that it will be detected and treated....


Yeah, but the "Quiverfull" spags would still be around, and that would leave the world to nobody but the weirdest religious fanatics.

that sounds interesting.  let's go with it...

Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 10:04:27 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on February 18, 2010, 10:03:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 09:38:19 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on February 18, 2010, 08:33:59 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 08:11:00 PM
Yes, this is why AIDS stopped population growth in Africa, right?

STDs are a non-starter.

the STD should cause no outward signs of sickness and only produce sterility... and why would you want it to kill the host? that only increases the chance that it will be detected and treated....


Yeah, but the "Quiverfull" spags would still be around, and that would leave the world to nobody but the weirdest religious fanatics.

that sounds interesting.  let's go with it...



I

AM

NOT

HAVING

THAT.

Interestingly enough, this may mean that Dr James Semaj may have to be my nemesis, even though he, too, is a mad scientist.
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: The Wizard on February 18, 2010, 10:05:37 PM
Hmm? What means I might have to be your nemesis?
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 10:10:12 PM
Quote from: Dr. James Semaj on February 18, 2010, 10:05:37 PM
Hmm? What means I might have to be your nemesis?

I want to blow the whole thing up.  You do not wish the whole thing to be blown up.

But good luck stopping me, I'm about 10 hours out from finishing the optical stunner thingie, just as soon as the rest of my parts arrive.
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: The Wizard on February 18, 2010, 10:16:58 PM
Ah. I see. Well then...THERE IS NO WAY YOU WILL SUCCEED DOCTOR HOWL!!! NOT SO LONG AS I DRAW BREATH!!!
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Elder Iptuous on February 18, 2010, 10:19:00 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 10:04:27 PM
I

AM

NOT

HAVING

THAT.

Interestingly enough, this may mean that Dr James Semaj may have to be my nemesis, even though he, too, is a mad scientist.

Mad Scientist wars?
I'm down for that too....
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Jasper on February 18, 2010, 10:23:27 PM
...I'll say it.  How many of you spags own the game "Muahaha"? 
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Requia ☣ on February 18, 2010, 10:26:42 PM
I was only really planning to kill all primates (don't want a repeat after all).
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: The Wizard on February 18, 2010, 10:29:56 PM
Sure kill the monkeys. But the planet itself is pretty fun.
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Jasper on February 18, 2010, 10:30:48 PM
I'm against killing the planet.  Sloths lead a pretty blameless existence, and it would be unfair to them.
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Rococo Modem Basilisk on February 18, 2010, 11:55:41 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on February 18, 2010, 08:33:59 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 08:11:00 PM
Yes, this is why AIDS stopped population growth in Africa, right?

STDs are a non-starter.

the STD should cause no outward signs of sickness and only produce sterility... and why would you want it to kill the host? that only increases the chance that it will be detected and treated....


If it doesn't kill the host, then there is still a whole generation of humans to deal with. Let's say the primary vector is sexual, but other vectors exist (for instance, it can be spread through semen AND saliva), and it doesn't cause sterility outright but simply makes the babies deformed enough that they won't have long to live. Then, the slobbering infants are another disease vector, AND even virgins aren't safe (if you kiss anyone, or share a soda, don't wash a cup or fork well enough, or stand next to someone with a bad cough or who spits when they make s-sounds, you have contracted it). Then, let's say it takes between five and ten years to kill you, with all but the final few days asymptomatic.
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Elder Iptuous on February 19, 2010, 01:04:24 AM
Quote from: Enki v. 2.0 on February 18, 2010, 11:55:41 PM
If it doesn't kill the host, then there is still a whole generation of humans to deal with. Let's say the primary vector is sexual, but other vectors exist (for instance, it can be spread through semen AND saliva), and it doesn't cause sterility outright but simply makes the babies deformed enough that they won't have long to live. Then, the slobbering infants are another disease vector, AND even virgins aren't safe (if you kiss anyone, or share a soda, don't wash a cup or fork well enough, or stand next to someone with a bad cough or who spits when they make s-sounds, you have contracted it). Then, let's say it takes between five and ten years to kill you, with all but the final few days asymptomatic.

Meh....
a whole generation?  that's nothing.
it gives you time to savor it.  If you've gone and done it for sure. iit's the last generation ever, then it should be a nice event.  and when people caught wind of the fact that they were the omega ppl, as lame as that may be, they would go ape shit and cause a good show....
its like those lame ass laser pistols where the person you shoot just kinda fizzles out of existence....  I'd rather stick with conventional explosives, for more awesome...
and besides, if you made the  disease you are talking about, then when it started to become clear that there was nothing that could be done to cure/treat/whatever, then you can bet your bippy that there will be some group of monkeys out there that would take the Necessary Measures, to ensure that they didn't come in contact with the disease...
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Triple Zero on February 19, 2010, 02:33:35 PM
Quote from: Horrendous Foreign Love Stoat on February 18, 2010, 10:57:42 PM
all things considered, it would be a bit tight. although if anyone brings up the 'fecking dolphins they can go eat a d***. dolphins DESERVE it.

indeed.

it is proven SUCH:



DOLPHIN

A DOLPHIN

ADOLPH HIN

ADOLPH HITLER




qed
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Elder Iptuous on February 19, 2010, 02:46:46 PM
yes.  and they rape people, too. 

{insert 3/4 deserve it joke here}
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Richter on February 19, 2010, 02:57:14 PM
A dolphin can ejaculate 30 ft.  They wouldn't even have to be in the same room.
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Elder Iptuous on February 19, 2010, 03:08:53 PM
Quote from: Richter on February 19, 2010, 02:57:14 PM
A dolphin can ejaculate 30 ft.  They wouldn't even have to be in the same room.

Now what exactly would be the selection criteria that would cause that evolution, other than tele-rape!!!
they are inherently evil...

i'm sticking with the shit flinging monkeys.  at least it's a devil i know.
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 19, 2010, 03:21:09 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on February 18, 2010, 10:30:48 PM
I'm against killing the planet.  Sloths lead a pretty blameless existence, and it would be unfair to them.

I fucking hate sloths.

So much so, in fact, that I participated in the (mostly accidental) Great Sloth Massacre in 1989, outside of Colon, Panama.
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 19, 2010, 03:22:40 PM
Quote from: Horrendous Foreign Love Stoat on February 18, 2010, 10:23:39 PM
QuoteMan that was a hoot.  Almost beats the time we invented elephants to win that bar bet.

gosh, wow. yeah. I mean, how you got the trunk to happen . . . good thing there was no PETA back then man. good thing. never thought you could use yarn for that.

QuoteI want to blow the whole thing up.  You do not wish the whole thing to be blown up.

I'm siding with Dr. Howl on this. I want it exploded. I wish to watch live via satellite. & I want a telephone vote. at 2.99$ a min. yeah I understand that the money will be worthless after the world cracks like an egg, but its the principle of the thing damnit!



Remember, as my colleague Dr Horrible says, "It's not about MAKING money, it's about TAKING money."
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Reginald Ret on February 19, 2010, 03:52:40 PM
Quote from: Enki v. 2.0 on February 18, 2010, 11:55:41 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on February 18, 2010, 08:33:59 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 18, 2010, 08:11:00 PM
Yes, this is why AIDS stopped population growth in Africa, right?

STDs are a non-starter.

the STD should cause no outward signs of sickness and only produce sterility... and why would you want it to kill the host? that only increases the chance that it will be detected and treated....


If it doesn't kill the host, then there is still a whole generation of humans to deal with. Let's say the primary vector is sexual, but other vectors exist (for instance, it can be spread through semen AND saliva), and it doesn't cause sterility outright but simply makes the babies deformed enough that they won't have long to live. Then, the slobbering infants are another disease vector, AND even virgins aren't safe (if you kiss anyone, or share a soda, don't wash a cup or fork well enough, or stand next to someone with a bad cough or who spits when they make s-sounds, you have contracted it). Then, let's say it takes between five and ten years to kill you, with all but the final few days asymptomatic.

how about this?
vector - reproductive sex. 100% infection rate.
effects - reproductive stop (no kids/ soon dead kids/ sterile kids/exploding kids)
          - ultimate hawtness
          - ultimate horniness
          - 20 point IQ drop(we dont want them inventing a cure/vaccine)

hard to detect, harder to stop.
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 19, 2010, 03:54:04 PM
Fuck you virus wimps.

Blow the fucking thing up.
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Richter on February 19, 2010, 04:37:33 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 19, 2010, 03:22:40 PM
Quote from: Horrendous Foreign Love Stoat on February 18, 2010, 10:23:39 PM
QuoteMan that was a hoot.  Almost beats the time we invented elephants to win that bar bet.

gosh, wow. yeah. I mean, how you got the trunk to happen . . . good thing there was no PETA back then man. good thing. never thought you could use yarn for that.

QuoteI want to blow the whole thing up.  You do not wish the whole thing to be blown up.

I'm siding with Dr. Howl on this. I want it exploded. I wish to watch live via satellite. & I want a telephone vote. at 2.99$ a min. yeah I understand that the money will be worthless after the world cracks like an egg, but its the principle of the thing damnit!



Remember, as my colleague Dr Horrible says, "It's not about MAKING money, it's about TAKING money."

QFT.  The gadget working can be FAR more gratifying than the pay out. 

Science IS why we do this shit, after all.
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Template on February 19, 2010, 09:46:19 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 19, 2010, 03:54:04 PM
Fuck you virus wimps.

Blow the fucking thing up.

How about mainstreaming the chainsaw as a sexual fetish?  Mad Marketing Science???
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Triple Zero on February 20, 2010, 08:19:28 PM
(http://www2.b3ta.com/host/creative/39915/1223473959/hitlerdolphin.jpg)
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Richter on February 21, 2010, 12:08:34 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 20, 2010, 08:19:28 PM
(http://www2.b3ta.com/host/creative/39915/1223473959/hitlerdolphin.jpg)

:mittens:
Title: Re: Mad Science Terminological refference
Post by: Bruno on February 21, 2010, 07:19:52 AM
Dolphins: Serial Killers of the Sea

http://www.newscientist.com/blog/environment/2008/09/dolphin-serial-killers.html