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Principia Discordia => Aneristic Illusions => Topic started by: Cain on February 22, 2010, 03:55:22 PM

Title: British election - it's on like Donkey Kong
Post by: Cain on February 22, 2010, 03:55:22 PM
Seriously.  I mean, come on, prove me wrong.  We're going to get a Hung Parliament, unless Gordon Brown eats a live kitten on the air or something, and that Hung Parliament is a best case scenario, since it merely paralyses the state and so limits the damage government can do.  After that, the next most likely scenario is the Tories win, and decide to ride the British economy down to the gory end, like Dr Strangelove and his nuke.

And if that's not bad enough, in the meantime we have to put up with Labour and Tory party activists behaving like...well, whiney brats.  "ZOMG Labour MP hurt my feelings on Twitter!", "ROFL I used Photoshop to make this Tory poster funny".  Honestly, if you want a poster that sums up this election, have a bunch of Tory and Labour MPs perform bukkake on an unwilling voter, and paste the photo all over London.  

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Title: Re: British election - lamest event since UK's Got Talent
Post by: Payne on February 22, 2010, 04:22:15 PM
My part in the election is going to be fun. I'm going to mock my father (and the BNP in general) as he gets his ass handed to him by Alex Salmond.

After that it's going to suck BALLS.

Any further clues as to what the Lib Dems are going to actually do in the event of a hung parliament?
Title: Re: British election - lamest event since UK's Got Talent
Post by: Cain on February 22, 2010, 04:28:10 PM
Apparently they're not going to support the largest party, maybe, since that party will probably be Labour in the Hung Parliament scenario.

Deadlock FTW.  Really, its the only sensible option.  Or, I mean, we could overhaul the system entirely to be representative of actual people and not just Oxbridge's best and brightest braying idiots....but we should be realistic, in the short term, and hope for deadlock.  That will allow the economy to die a slow and drawn out death, which will give me enough time to earn some money and leave this hideous little island. 
Title: Re: British election - lamest event since UK's Got Talent
Post by: Cain on March 13, 2010, 11:11:09 AM
I just got a Tory election leaflet through my letterbox.

It informs me I can make 2010 the Year for Change....by voting for the guy who has held the seat for this area since the early 90s.  A curious logic, I will admit.

More fun later.
Title: Re: British election - lamest event since UK's Got Talent
Post by: bds on March 13, 2010, 11:25:25 AM
It both un-nerves and surprises me that the only election publications/advertising I've recieved/seen have been Tory.

Also, there are those dumbshit human interest Tory posters on my walk to school ("I'VE NEVER VOTED TORY BEFORE, BUT HURR DURR LERP") and they piss me off every time I walk past.
Title: Re: British election - lamest event since UK's Got Talent
Post by: Cain on March 13, 2010, 11:34:38 AM
I would've expected your area to be fairly Labour-leaning?  Being near Brum and all.  Though I know thats not always the case once you get out of the city itself, so you may be one of those lucky "marginal" seats that the Tories are going to fight tooth and nail for.

Oh, Nick Clegg has come up with another reason not to vote for him.  And he was doing so well at not being a prat (over the last two weeks):

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/mar/11/nick-clegg-praises-margaret-thatcher

He actually made voting for the Tories look tempting.  I thought that was impossible.  But given the choice between 80% spending cuts and George Osborne's smug face on the news every night or 100% spending cuts, I'm barely willing to tolerate the former over the latter. 
Title: Re: British election - lamest event since UK's Got Talent
Post by: bds on March 13, 2010, 11:47:44 AM
We always used to be Labour as far as I remember, but we've had this (http://www.jeremywright.co.uk/) smiley man since 05. Apparently his current local campaigns cover such important topics as vitamin tablets and local mobile phone masts. Speaking of which, it's always amused me how people have started bitching about how they don't want them in their back yard now, but there is a site of around 200 about a mile from the town, the purpose of which remains almost entirely unknown. Presumably sooper sekrit government transmissions to poland or something, according to various "local sources."

I dunno how marginal we are, but afaik the Tory hold is reasonably strong.
Title: Re: British election - lamest event since UK's Got Talent
Post by: BadBeast on March 28, 2010, 02:26:42 PM
But Elections in Britain are always lame. We don't have rioting in the streets, political asassinations, Voter co-ercion, or any of that exiting shit that make elections real events in othe places. In the 25 years that I have been eligible to vote, I haven't bothered to do so, even once. The illusion that having the right to take part in the Democratic process is something to be treasured is not, (I've found) a very convincing one. I can count on the fingers of one hand, the amount of Politicians with any integrity, or balls that spring to mind. And at least one of them is dead.
All our Democratic choice is ever going to get us, is whether to get to be shafted by this bunch of cunts, or that bunch of cunts.
Labour, (once a working man's Party, paid for, and championed by the Trade Union movement) has become a travesty of anything it once was. The Tories are even worse, they were shit when they were in power, and they've been shit as an opposition Party. And the Lib Dems are only there so we don;t have to vote for the other two lots of cunts. There is no-one in this whole nest of Vipers, that inspires any confidence in the electorate, no rising young firebrands, or progressive thinking iconoclasts, no-one without their snout in the trough. So I think that this Election can be safely said to be just another Political Non-event, the same as the last time, the time before that, and so on, back down the line, for as far as I can remember. Further than that probably. Bastards, Cheats, and Pirates, every last Man-jack of them!       
Title: Election called - Cain refusing to spend the next month sober
Post by: Cain on April 06, 2010, 04:45:02 PM
Actually, there is an entire book dedicated just to UK attempted political assassinations during election time.  Sure, they got lazy lately....

Anyway, as the above title suggests, the election is on like Donkey Kong

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8603591.stm

QuotePolitical leaders have headed off on the campaign trail after Prime Minister Gordon Brown announced the UK general election would be held on 6 May.

He said he would seek a "clear" mandate to continue the "road to recovery", as Labour bids for a fourth term.

David Cameron, whose Conservative Party has been ahead in the polls, said they offered "hope" and a "fresh start".

Nick Clegg, leader of the UK's third biggest party the Liberal Democrats, said only they offered "real change".

Shortly after announcing the date at Downing Street, Mr Brown boarded a train and headed to Kent to meet voters at a supermarket in Rochester, Mr Cameron headed to a hospital in Edgbaston, Birmingham while Mr Clegg is meeting young people in Watford.

All three are leading their parties into a general election for the first time.
Title: Re: British election - it's on like Donkey Kong
Post by: Ari on April 07, 2010, 11:02:29 PM
 :lulz: :horrormirth: :lulz:

I find it heart-warming to see the democratic system across the Northern Sea in perfect working order. The same bull that I've learned to loath in Germany and Sweden. What a glorious bag of poop!
Title: Re: British election - it's on like Donkey Kong
Post by: Scribbly on April 17, 2010, 11:34:58 AM
Just thought I'd share this: http://www.ted.com/talks/david_cameron.html

Now, I realize that Cameron is going to cut public spending massively. But, I haven't heard him portray these ideas anywhere else (it is possible that I just missed it, I guess).

In short- he wants to make government transparent, to offer more choice in public services, and make it all accountable. He intends to do this by completely opening up public spending (over £25,000), health stats, and crime stats to the public. The idea being that if you make everything available online, people are able to offer to do things cheaper, and hold their public services to account.

If he does even half of what he says he will (ha ha, yeah, right), this would be a really good thing. The only thing that makes me think he might, is that I haven't heard him say it elsewhere. It was only two months ago he made this speech, so it can't have simply been forgotten (I would think). It also seems to mesh with the rhetoric I have heard, which didn't seem to mean much. He's talking about 'people power' and strengthening communities. Which he has said he'll do in the election, but this is the first I've seen that might be taken as a way to do that. And it actually looks good.

I'd love to hear what you guys make of it. It could be as simple as the fact he's just not going to do it, but if he does, how could it go wrong? It seems sensible and genuinely good to me. Which is stunning.
Title: Re: British election - it's on like Donkey Kong
Post by: Rumckle on April 18, 2010, 02:10:00 AM
I remember reading an article on that a couple of weeks ago, but after a quick search I can't seem to find it.
Title: Re: British election - it's on like Donkey Kong
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on April 18, 2010, 04:47:02 AM
I got my registration form in and my constituency is one that changes with each change of government, after I got Payne to check the history.

The parties running in Southampton Test are Tory, Labour, Liberal Democrats , UKIP and the Greens, I am having a time deciding between the Green party and Liberal Democrats.

I may just flip a coin. 

Title: Re: British election - it's on like Donkey Kong
Post by: Xooxe on April 18, 2010, 11:26:01 PM
Quote from: Demolition_Squid on April 17, 2010, 11:34:58 AMHe's talking about 'people power' and strengthening communities. Which he has said he'll do in the election, but this is the first I've seen that might be taken as a way to do that. And it actually looks good.

I presume that he means they'll make cuts everywhere, so you might as well get used to dealing with it yourself.

If you're going to bring the pain and expect to still get votes, then you've got to at least make it sound tasty.
Title: Re: British election - it's on like Donkey Kong
Post by: Scribbly on April 19, 2010, 08:07:59 AM
Well, yes. He outright states that cuts need to be made. That's not surprising.

What is surprising is the transparency he outlines in the video. That seems like it can only be a good thing, and I'd be interested to know why it hasn't taken centre stage in the campaign so far, unless he really has decided to entirely drop the concept in the last two months.
Title: Re: British election - it's on like Donkey Kong
Post by: Placid Dingo on April 19, 2010, 08:32:09 AM
Quote from: Rainy Day Pixie on April 18, 2010, 04:47:02 AM
I got my registration form in and my constituency is one that changes with each change of government, after I got Payne to check the history.

The parties running in Southampton Test are Tory, Labour, Liberal Democrats , UKIP and the Greens, I am having a time deciding between the Green party and Liberal Democrats.

I may just flip a coin. 



Was reading in the paper today that Lib-Dems are surprisingly high up in polls, so that might be the way to play it.
Title: Re: British election - it's on like Donkey Kong
Post by: Payne on April 19, 2010, 11:13:28 AM
Quote from: Placid Dingo on April 19, 2010, 08:32:09 AM
Quote from: Rainy Day Pixie on April 18, 2010, 04:47:02 AM
I got my registration form in and my constituency is one that changes with each change of government, after I got Payne to check the history.

The parties running in Southampton Test are Tory, Labour, Liberal Democrats , UKIP and the Greens, I am having a time deciding between the Green party and Liberal Democrats.

I may just flip a coin. 



Was reading in the paper today that Lib-Dems are surprisingly high up in polls, so that might be the way to play it.

Though I do find sympathy for the other goal:

(http://yournextmp.s3.amazonaws.com/images/76/54/000017654-large.png)

Getting this ^ supremely bearded eco-warrior his deposit back.

The Greens took 3.5% of the vote last time out, and I expect voter turnout to be lower and a much higher percentage than usual will vote for the small parties (UKIP and The Greens, in this constituency). 5% of the vote is not entirely unrealistic, and I think the guy could really use his 500 euro pounds back for to buy hookers and blow and have a good time.
Title: Re: British election - it's on like Donkey Kong
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on April 19, 2010, 11:48:57 AM
Look at that face. I don't think he's a hookers and blow guy, more guitar amps and fairtrade organic beer.

Or a new trailer for his bicycle.
Title: Re: British election - it's on like Donkey Kong
Post by: Payne on April 19, 2010, 11:53:18 AM
Quote from: Rainy Day Pixie on April 19, 2010, 11:48:57 AM
Look at that face. I don't think he's a hookers and blow guy, more guitar amps and fairtrade organic beer.

Or a new trailer for his bicycle.

Everyone is a hookers and blow guy.

Everyone. Even the Queen.
Title: Re: British election - it's on like Donkey Kong
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on April 19, 2010, 12:30:55 PM
Also, I am amused by the idea of him looking uncomfortable in a suit come the count.
Title: Re: British election - it's on like Donkey Kong
Post by: Cain on April 19, 2010, 04:16:46 PM
I'm tempted to vote Lib Dem, if only to see Michael Gove and Bob Ainsworth spazz out on TV all over again.  Watching the two main parties flap their hands and shriek is endlessly entertaining.
Title: Re: British election - it's on like Donkey Kong
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on April 19, 2010, 05:04:38 PM
So are most of us voting for the lulz factor?

Does anyone have any faith in the electoral system in the UK?
Title: Re: British election - it's on like Donkey Kong
Post by: Cain on April 19, 2010, 05:08:54 PM
The what now?  The electoral system where a party can get 36% of the vote and yet gain 55% of the seats?  That electoral system?

This is not the whiskey sexy democracy I signed up for.
Title: Re: British election - it's on like Donkey Kong
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on April 20, 2010, 12:01:29 AM
yea, I thought as much.

Bring on proportional representation.
Title: Re: British election - it's on like Donkey Kong
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 20, 2010, 12:19:52 AM
Quote from: Rainy Day Pixie on April 20, 2010, 12:01:29 AM
yea, I thought as much.

Bring on proportional representation.

Careful what you wish for.  You could wind up with our house of reps, which serve as our nation's supply of wet/dry martini vacuums.
Title: Re: British election - it's on like Donkey Kong
Post by: Payne on April 20, 2010, 10:28:42 AM
I'mma be voting Lib Dem in the election, but not for the lulz. Not for their policies either, like. I just think they're the only viable non-Tory party and I hate Tories.

Here are my options:

(http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/images/port/westaberdeen2.jpg)
Alex Johnstone (Conservative) born 1961, Kincardineshire. Educated at Mackie Academy. Former diary farmer. MSP for North East Scotland since 1999. Conservative chief whip in the Scottish Parliament 2001-2003, rural development spokesman from 2003. Contested Gordon 1999 Scottish Parliament elections, Angus 2003 Scottish Parliament elections, West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine 2005.

(http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/images/port/westaberdeen1.jpg)
Sir Robert Smith(Liberal Democrat) 3rd Baronet (his grandfather was Conservative MP for the same seat prior to the Second World War). Born 1958. Educated at Merchant Taylor`s School and the University of Aberdeen. Married with three children. Managed the family estate in Aberdeenshire before his election in 1997. A former member of the SDP prior to the Liberal/SDP merger, he contested Aberdeen South for the SDP in 1987. He was Liberal Democrat Deputy Chief whip between 2001 and 2006. Lib Dem shadow deputy leader of the Commons since 2008. Backed Sir Menzies Campbell in the 2006 leadership race.

Yes, I'm voting for the local almost-but-not-quite Aristocrat.
Title: Re: British election - it's on like Donkey Kong
Post by: Cain on April 20, 2010, 10:32:34 AM
SDP should put him on the left of the Lib Dems, at least.