Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: Lies on March 02, 2010, 02:33:55 AM

Title: Heh, we're on TV tropes
Post by: Lies on March 02, 2010, 02:33:55 AM
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PlanetEris

Just thought I'd point it out.
Title: Re: Heh, we're on TV tropes
Post by: the last yatto on March 02, 2010, 02:54:16 AM
One of the earliest examples, and arguably an inspiration for this trope's name: Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson's Illuminatus! trilogy was deliberately written to be the Planet Eris of conspiracy theories.

:lulz:
Title: Re: Heh, we're on TV tropes
Post by: Kai on March 02, 2010, 04:03:09 AM
I clicked the link and then after five minutes I realized where I was and the amount of cross linking I had already done and quickly closed the tab.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Heh, we're on TV tropes
Post by: Lies on March 02, 2010, 04:05:56 AM
Yeah, TV tropes is soo fucking evil like that. I clicked on one link several hours ago to read ONE article, and then... yeah, mass tabs ahoy.
Title: Re: Heh, we're on TV tropes
Post by: Triple Zero on March 02, 2010, 09:06:38 AM
I made an edit to the page because someone stated "this has nothing to do with the dwarf planet of the same name", while we all know that a Discordian (was it Prince Mu Chao? I forgot) had a hand in suggesting the name: http://discordia.wikia.com/wiki/Eris_(planet)#The_Jake_that_Changed_the_World

I didn't wanna link to Uncle BadTouch's site (which has the entire story) so I linked to the discordia.wikia.com on planet Eris which, in turn, links to Uncle BadTouch's site.
Title: Re: Heh, we're on TV tropes
Post by: Reginald Ret on March 02, 2010, 09:36:05 AM
Well done 000.
here is another mission for you:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/ClassicalMythology
Eris is lacking.
Title: Re: Heh, we're on TV tropes
Post by: Triple Zero on March 02, 2010, 10:27:30 AM
no I have done my good deed for the day and TVTroeps is DANGEROUS for me
Title: Re: Heh, we're on TV tropes
Post by: notathing on March 03, 2010, 09:51:17 PM
what is this I don't even  :x
Title: Re: Heh, we're on TV tropes
Post by: Lies on March 04, 2010, 02:56:06 AM
Heh, I just found another reference in tropes: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HowDoYouLikeThemApples
Title: Re: Heh, we're on TV tropes
Post by: Freeky on March 04, 2010, 06:35:43 PM
it isn't tropes, but I found this:

http://www.pagetutor.com/common/net216-2.html
Title: Re: Heh, we're on TV tropes
Post by: Enrico Salazar on March 04, 2010, 06:39:55 PM
From OP link:

QuoteThis trope is named after Eris, the goddess of Chaos in Principia Discordia, the prime text of the Discordian religion. (To be confused with the original Ancient Greek mythology version of Eris as the goddess of discord, strife and quarrels. Look up the Iliad (especially the Judgement of Paris scene)

Is going to be fun looking for scene which does not exist!
Title: Re: Heh, we're on TV tropes
Post by: Kai on March 04, 2010, 07:23:44 PM
Quote from: Enrico Salazar on March 04, 2010, 06:39:55 PM
From OP link:

QuoteThis trope is named after Eris, the goddess of Chaos in Principia Discordia, the prime text of the Discordian religion. (To be confused with the original Ancient Greek mythology version of Eris as the goddess of discord, strife and quarrels. Look up the Iliad (especially the Judgement of Paris scene)

Is going to be fun looking for scene which does not exist!

Yeah....I don't think the writer has ever read the Iliad. Bet he thinks the Trojan Horse scene is in there as well.
Title: Re: Heh, we're on TV tropes
Post by: Freeky on March 04, 2010, 07:26:58 PM
Quote from: Kai on March 04, 2010, 07:23:44 PM
Quote from: Enrico Salazar on March 04, 2010, 06:39:55 PM
From OP link:

QuoteThis trope is named after Eris, the goddess of Chaos in Principia Discordia, the prime text of the Discordian religion. (To be confused with the original Ancient Greek mythology version of Eris as the goddess of discord, strife and quarrels. Look up the Iliad (especially the Judgement of Paris scene)

Is going to be fun looking for scene which does not exist!

Yeah....I don't think the writer has ever read the Iliad. Bet he thinks the Trojan Horse scene is in there as well.

Where was it, if not the Iliad?  :?
Title: Re: Heh, we're on TV tropes
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 04, 2010, 08:53:34 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on March 04, 2010, 07:26:58 PM
Quote from: Kai on March 04, 2010, 07:23:44 PM
Quote from: Enrico Salazar on March 04, 2010, 06:39:55 PM
From OP link:

QuoteThis trope is named after Eris, the goddess of Chaos in Principia Discordia, the prime text of the Discordian religion. (To be confused with the original Ancient Greek mythology version of Eris as the goddess of discord, strife and quarrels. Look up the Iliad (especially the Judgement of Paris scene)

Is going to be fun looking for scene which does not exist!

Yeah....I don't think the writer has ever read the Iliad. Bet he thinks the Trojan Horse scene is in there as well.

Where was it, if not the Iliad?  :?

http://www.theoi.com/Olympios/JudgementParis.html
Title: Re: Heh, we're on TV tropes
Post by: Freeky on March 04, 2010, 09:02:14 PM
I should have clarified, that's my bad. Where was the Trojan Horse incident, if not in the Iliad?
Title: Re: Heh, we're on TV tropes
Post by: Triple Zero on March 04, 2010, 09:52:30 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on March 04, 2010, 09:02:14 PM
I should have clarified, that's my bad. Where was the Trojan Horse incident, if not in the Iliad?

In the movies 23 Nichts ist wie es scheint (with Robert Anton Wilson! woooooo) and in Hackers and in Pappalamepimelos: Tzatziki in Your Face 7
Title: Re: Heh, we're on TV tropes
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 04, 2010, 09:54:19 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on March 04, 2010, 09:02:14 PM
I should have clarified, that's my bad. Where was the Trojan Horse incident, if not in the Iliad?

Oh. The Aeneid, and also referenced/retold in several other texts.
Title: Re: Heh, we're on TV tropes
Post by: Freeky on March 04, 2010, 09:56:24 PM
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on March 04, 2010, 09:54:19 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on March 04, 2010, 09:02:14 PM
I should have clarified, that's my bad. Where was the Trojan Horse incident, if not in the Iliad?

Oh. The Aeneid, and also referenced/retold in several other texts.

Ah. Ok. Thanks.  :)
Title: Re: Heh, we're on TV tropes
Post by: Kai on March 05, 2010, 04:46:30 AM
it was just another of the greek legends associated with the Trojan War. Illiad takes place in the second to last year of the war, Odyssey takes place AFTER the war, and Aeneid (which is roman, written by Virgil, written long after the other two) takes place at the very end and after the war.

Homer spoke the first two, which were popular and survived largely intact to the era of writing. The rest (the wedding, the trial of paris, the horse) is mostly retelling from fragments, and none are preserved as epic poems.
Title: Re: Heh, we're on TV tropes
Post by: Kai on March 05, 2010, 04:55:09 AM
For some more context: The story of the Iliad starts at the beginning of the tenth year of the war, and is largely about a feud between Agammemnon and Achilles, due to which Achilles decides to sit and wait for Agammemnon to pay him back before wading into battle. The gods get involved too, of course. Eventually, Achilies close friend Patroclus is killed on the battle field, and he goes out and hunts down the man who did it, the Trojan champion Hector. Both Hector and Patroclus dead, the poem ends with their funerals.

So yeah. Before Achilies dies on the battle field, before the horse, etc. People tend to confuse the Iliad with the whole of the Trojan war, I know I did.
Title: Re: Heh, we're on TV tropes
Post by: Freeky on March 05, 2010, 04:59:33 AM
Quote from: Kai on March 05, 2010, 04:55:09 AM
For some more context: The story of the Iliad starts at the beginning of the tenth year of the war, and is largely about a feud between Agammemnon and Achilles, due to which Achilles decides to sit and wait for Agammemnon to pay him back before wading into battle. The gods get involved too, of course. Eventually, Achilies close friend Patroclus is killed on the battle field, and he goes out and hunts down the man who did it, the Trojan champion Hector. Both Hector and Patroclus dead, the poem ends with their funerals.

So yeah. Before Achilies dies on the battle field, before the horse, etc. People tend to confuse the Iliad with the whole of the Trojan war, I know I did.

I would have sworn that there was more to it than that, but HS senior english is a few years behind me.