Howdy there, folks. Relatively new to the Discordian scene, but I'm enthusiastic, to say the least.
So, from the BIP and the Sacred Chao Te Ching, I've begun to understand that, as it is, speaking out against Authority gets one no-where. Well, I've realized this before, but I was always one to think that broadcasting one's anti-establishment actions was the best possible course.
However, both works have taught me that the wise spag indeed knows to blend in, and destroy the Machine(TM) from the inside out.
Now, I've had long hair for several years now. I never grew it to be a rebel, or anything like that. I just liked having long hair. And I STILL like having long-hair. I know the long-hair doesn't exactly allow a spag like me to blend in, but I was wondering if long hair would be such a sore thumb to the Establishment as if I went out waving around a sign saying "Hail Eris!" I'd much enjoy being able to take down the Machine(TM), and I'd rather not get FUBAR'd just because of something as simple as my hair length.
Thanks in advance. -Jack
Are you being serious?
I think so?
If I'm being Pineal, I apologize. I thought this was an honest question.
Jack, what part of the country do you live in? Long hair IS Establishment, here. Aging hippies, yay.
JackALope waited. The lights above him blinked and sparked out of the air. There were Greyfaces in the base. He didn't see them, but had expected them now for years. His warnings to the armchair anarchists were not listenend to and now it was too late. Far too late for now, anyway.
Jack was a Discordian for fourteen years. When he was young he read the Principia and he said to dad "I want to be in the Revolution daddy."
Dad said "No! You will BE KILL BY GREYS"
There was a time when he believed him. Then as he got oldered he stopped. But now in The City he knew there were Greys.
"This is the anarchists" the radio crackered. "You must fight the Greys!"
So Jack infiltrated the system with a spanner to throw in the works.
"HE HAS GOT LONG HAIR" said the Greys
"I will shoot at him" said the president and he activated the orbital bombardment system. Jack threw the spanner at him and tried to blew him up. But then the ceiling fell and they were trapped and not able to kill.
"No! I must destory THE MACHINE" he shouted
The radio said "No, Jack. You are The Machine"
And then Jack was a Grey.
or :?
Sorry for all of that.
The System will not execute you for having long hair.
But, Jack... They know you're associating with Discordians.
@ Calamity: I figured I might be overlooking something like that. I live in the California Bay Area, but I plan to move to Rhode Island in the next few months.
@ Paesior: I haven't even been associating with Discordians for that long. How could they know already?
When i was in austin smoking a couple years away, i started to grow my hair out. then when i was in university i let it continue to grow, so it was pretty well down my back. i liked it. actually easier to maintain, and when i had my beard out, i would have random people ask to have their picture taken 'with jesus'. sometimes i'd oblige, and a couple times, i waited for the camera's preflash and say through my smile, 'jesus was black.' that had good results.
anyways. after i graduated university, i went out to seek a job in the wide wide world of the dallas/ft.worth area. most engineers work for the military industrial complex here, and that's indeed what i fell into.
upon going in for the interview, i figured i'd probably better look pretty clean cut. so off went the hair and on went the tie.
i got the job (still working at that place, for now)
within the first week i realized that there were at least half a dozen guys that i worked with that had long hair.
plenty of them are obviously ex hippies.
there are plenty of drug and party jokes that fly around tongue in cheek.
just saying that The Machine has long hairs in it plenty enough.
Quote from: Iptuous on March 08, 2010, 04:01:56 AM
When i was in austin smoking a couple years away, i started to grow my hair out. then when i was in university i let it continue to grow, so it was pretty well down my back. i liked it. actually easier to maintain, and when i had my beard out, i would have random people ask to have their picture taken 'with jesus'. sometimes i'd oblige, and a couple times, i waited for the camera's preflash and say through my smile, 'jesus was black.' that had good results.
anyways. after i graduated university, i went out to seek a job in the wide wide world of the dallas/ft.worth area. most engineers work for the military industrial complex here, and that's indeed what i fell into.
upon going in for the interview, i figured i'd probably better look pretty clean cut. so off went the hair and on went the tie.
i got the job (still working at that place, for now)
within the first week i realized that there were at least half a dozen guys that i worked with that had long hair.
plenty of them are obviously ex hippies.
there are plenty of drug and party jokes that fly around tongue in cheek.
just saying that The Machine has long hairs in it plenty enough.
You know, when you posted that last pic of you and your beard, my very first thought was "That beard puts Jesus to shame."
The end.
Jack, I doubt long hair is going to get you noticed very much. The point is not to make yourself ridiculously outrageous, like kep your hair long but shave the sides of your head and have it in a pointy mohawk, or dye it funky colors, or wear a shirt that says "FUCK YOU PIG" out in broad daylight. Those kinds of things. If you're wearing a plain t-shirt and jeans, when the cops come around after an incident, who are they gonna look at; you, or the blue haired dude wearing Tripp pants and arm socks in June?
Mkay, thanks guys. And thanks for understanding and tolerating my noobishness. =P
I may be new, and I may not know much, but I'd like to believe I'm willing to learn. -Jack
Quote from: JackALope2323 on March 08, 2010, 03:17:27 AM
@ Calamity: I figured I might be overlooking something like that. I live in the California Bay Area, but I plan to move to Rhode Island in the next few months.
@ Paesior: I haven't even been associating with Discordians for that long. How could they know already?
God, why?
Quote from: dimo on March 08, 2010, 04:59:59 AM
Quote from: JackALope2323 on March 08, 2010, 03:17:27 AM
@ Calamity: I figured I might be overlooking something like that. I live in the California Bay Area, but I plan to move to Rhode Island in the next few months.
@ Paesior: I haven't even been associating with Discordians for that long. How could they know already?
God, why?
Because I'm sick and tired of living under the yoke of my mother. It was either live with my aunt in Georgia, or live with my Uncle in Rhode Island. And I hate Georgia. I've never been to Rhode Island, so I figured I'd give it a shot.
At least I get to live in a beach town. I'm sure it's not that bad. =P
peace core isnt that bad either
I don't think the Peace Corps exactly approves of what I intend to do. ;D
Besides, I don't have one of those fancy pieces of paper called a "college degree".
Stay away from RI. We got this Zalgo infestation in the sewers and it occasionally rains blood! Not to mention that the local "gov't" (see: gay mob) is trying to eliminate the poor, and not in a good way.
Dear Jack,
You may have made a false conclusion.
Speaking out against the Machine™ is not the problem.
Being noticed by the Machine™ is what gets you into trouble.
Like krill into a Baleen whale, The Machine™ doesn't give a rat's ass what it swallows up. Your appearance doesn't really matter. Sure, some of the more "extreme" costumes will cause Authority® to seek you out and beat you down, but at the same time, that "extreme" costume will also have you immediately labled and parceled and ignored, thanks to the immune system of The Machine™. It knows how to deal with obvious outsiders, and they eventually become subsumed, packaged, and resold at Hot Topic.
On the other hand, it doesn't matter what you look like if you actually pose a potential threat to the Machine™. Completely "normal" looking people have been utterly destroyed by it, simply because they got noticed.
As it says in Chapter 2,
Therefore Order and Disorder produce each other,
Reality and Illusion trick each other,
Authority and Freedom define each other,
Love and Hate fuck each other.
So the wise spags look for balance,
and stick their wrench into the Machine™.
They organize, but they do not Order.
They break apart, but they do not Disorder.
They act, but they Keep Their Fucking Mouths Shut.
And so are able to act again.
Quote from: LMNO on March 08, 2010, 05:08:35 PM
Dear Jack,
You may have made a false conclusion.
Speaking out against the Machine™ is not the problem.
Being noticed by the Machine™ is what gets you into trouble.
Like krill into a Baleen whale, The Machine™ doesn't give a rat's ass what it swallows up. Your appearance doesn't really matter. Sure, some of the more "extreme" costumes will cause Authority® to seek you out and beat you down, but at the same time, that "extreme" costume will also have you immediately labled and parceled and ignored, thanks to the immune system of The Machine™. It knows how to deal with obvious outsiders, and they eventually become subsumed, packaged, and resold at Hot Topic.
On the other hand, it doesn't matter what you look like if you actually pose a potential threat to the Machine™. Completely "normal" looking people have been utterly destroyed by it, simply because they got noticed.
As it says in Chapter 2,
Therefore Order and Disorder produce each other,
Reality and Illusion trick each other,
Authority and Freedom define each other,
Love and Hate fuck each other.
So the wise spags look for balance,
and stick their wrench into the Machine™.
They organize, but they do not Order.
They break apart, but they do not Disorder.
They act, but they Keep Their Fucking Mouths Shut.
And so are able to act again.
:mittens:
Boo-YAH!
SO
I'm looking at some jail time in a few weeks
AND
I'm wondering if I should stop shaving my balls right now. Do you think it'll make me stand out? In a bad way?
Quote from: E.O.T. on March 08, 2010, 10:51:44 PM
SO
I'm looking at some jail time in a few weeks
What
I assume you're joking.
Quote from: Iptuous on March 08, 2010, 04:01:56 AM
When i was in austin smoking a couple years away, i started to grow my hair out. then when i was in university i let it continue to grow, so it was pretty well down my back. i liked it. actually easier to maintain, and when i had my beard out, i would have random people ask to have their picture taken 'with jesus'. sometimes i'd oblige, and a couple times, i waited for the camera's preflash and say through my smile, 'jesus was black.' that had good results.
anyways. after i graduated university, i went out to seek a job in the wide wide world of the dallas/ft.worth area. most engineers work for the military industrial complex here, and that's indeed what i fell into.
upon going in for the interview, i figured i'd probably better look pretty clean cut. so off went the hair and on went the tie.
i got the job (still working at that place, for now)
within the first week i realized that there were at least half a dozen guys that i worked with that had long hair.
plenty of them are obviously ex hippies.
there are plenty of drug and party jokes that fly around tongue in cheek.
just saying that The Machine has long hairs in it plenty enough.
Don't take this personally, but I often wonder how "Discordian" you actually are (eta: not that it actually matters, really, just an idle curiosity about you). Maybe because I mostly read what you say in AD (which doesn't tell fuckall about anyone, I realize)...but THIS post was teh awesome and I have to say FUCK YEAH.
That's all.
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on March 08, 2010, 02:14:31 AM
Jack, what part of the country do you live in? Long hair IS Establishment, here. Aging hippies, yay.
That's one of the big things you notice when you get older. The Establishment looks just like you. The Man is a middle-aged fat man that looks vaguely like one of your uncles. Right now, the man has long hair. (Specifically, that weird look where he's bald on top with a long pony tail in the back.) In twenty years, The Man will have tattoos all up and down His arms. That's the strangest thing to learn: The Man is just a man. The world isn't ruled by a powerful cabal of Illuminated Ones or alien Reptiloids. This planet is ruled by a bunch of dumb stinking apes.
And The Machine isn't even a machine. The Machine is us. We are the Machine. Every single one of us is a slightly off balanced cog in The Machine. There's no way to get out of it. Eventually we will all end up ground down by the normal wear and tear of everyday use. And the worst part is that there is no way to destroy the Machine. It will just replicate itself with even more broken-down people. There is no escape, make your time.
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on March 23, 2010, 02:21:35 AM
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on March 08, 2010, 02:14:31 AM
Jack, what part of the country do you live in? Long hair IS Establishment, here. Aging hippies, yay.
That's one of the big things you notice when you get older. The Establishment looks just like you. The Man is a middle-aged fat man that looks vaguely like one of your uncles. Right now, the man has long hair. (Specifically, that weird look where he's bald on top with a long pony tail in the back.) In twenty years, The Man will have tattoos all up and down His arms. That's the strangest thing to learn: The Man is just a man. The world isn't ruled by a powerful cabal of Illuminated Ones or alien Reptiloids. This planet is ruled by a bunch of dumb stinking apes.
And The Machine isn't even a machine. The Machine is us. We are the Machine. Every single one of us is a slightly off balanced cog in The Machine. There's no way to get out of it. Eventually we will all end up ground down by the normal wear and tear of everyday use. And the worst part is that there is no way to destroy the Machine. It will just replicate itself with even more broken-down people. There is no escape, make your time.
this is the finest post in the known universe; succinct, insightful and full of "hell yeah"
right on, Jason....
:)
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on March 23, 2010, 02:21:35 AM
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on March 08, 2010, 02:14:31 AM
Jack, what part of the country do you live in? Long hair IS Establishment, here. Aging hippies, yay.
That's one of the big things you notice when you get older. The Establishment looks just like you. The Man is a middle-aged fat man that looks vaguely like one of your uncles. Right now, the man has long hair. (Specifically, that weird look where he's bald on top with a long pony tail in the back.) In twenty years, The Man will have tattoos all up and down His arms. That's the strangest thing to learn: The Man is just a man. The world isn't ruled by a powerful cabal of Illuminated Ones or alien Reptiloids. This planet is ruled by a bunch of dumb stinking apes.
And The Machine isn't even a machine. The Machine is us. We are the Machine. Every single one of us is a slightly off balanced cog in The Machine. There's no way to get out of it. Eventually we will all end up ground down by the normal wear and tear of everyday use. And the worst part is that there is no way to destroy the Machine. It will just replicate itself with even more broken-down people. There is no escape, make your time.
Fuckmittens.
Quote from: Jenne on March 09, 2010, 05:33:51 PM
Don't take this personally, but I often wonder how "Discordian" you actually are (eta: not that it actually matters, really, just an idle curiosity about you). Maybe because I mostly read what you say in AD (which doesn't tell fuckall about anyone, I realize)...but THIS post was teh awesome and I have to say FUCK YEAH.
That's all.
Hey Jenne,
i just noticed this post. it wasn't a rant or anything, but thanks. :wink:
i'm curious what you meant by your first statement. i'm pretty sure i know the gist of what you mean, but if you would indulge me, i'd like to hear you articulate it. :)
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on March 23, 2010, 02:21:35 AM
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on March 08, 2010, 02:14:31 AM
Jack, what part of the country do you live in? Long hair IS Establishment, here. Aging hippies, yay.
That's one of the big things you notice when you get older. The Establishment looks just like you. The Man is a middle-aged fat man that looks vaguely like one of your uncles. Right now, the man has long hair. (Specifically, that weird look where he's bald on top with a long pony tail in the back.) In twenty years, The Man will have tattoos all up and down His arms. That's the strangest thing to learn: The Man is just a man. The world isn't ruled by a powerful cabal of Illuminated Ones or alien Reptiloids. This planet is ruled by a bunch of dumb stinking apes.
And The Machine isn't even a machine. The Machine is us. We are the Machine. Every single one of us is a slightly off balanced cog in The Machine. There's no way to get out of it. Eventually we will all end up ground down by the normal wear and tear of everyday use. And the worst part is that there is no way to destroy the Machine. It will just replicate itself with even more broken-down people. There is no escape, make your time.
Hell yes.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on March 23, 2010, 06:54:29 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on March 23, 2010, 02:21:35 AM
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on March 08, 2010, 02:14:31 AM
Jack, what part of the country do you live in? Long hair IS Establishment, here. Aging hippies, yay.
That's one of the big things you notice when you get older. The Establishment looks just like you. The Man is a middle-aged fat man that looks vaguely like one of your uncles. Right now, the man has long hair. (Specifically, that weird look where he's bald on top with a long pony tail in the back.) In twenty years, The Man will have tattoos all up and down His arms. That's the strangest thing to learn: The Man is just a man. The world isn't ruled by a powerful cabal of Illuminated Ones or alien Reptiloids. This planet is ruled by a bunch of dumb stinking apes.
And The Machine isn't even a machine. The Machine is us. We are the Machine. Every single one of us is a slightly off balanced cog in The Machine. There's no way to get out of it. Eventually we will all end up ground down by the normal wear and tear of everyday use. And the worst part is that there is no way to destroy the Machine. It will just replicate itself with even more broken-down people. There is no escape, make your time.
Hell yes.
Yeah, You can't fuel me, I use "N00b Lube" So get a haircut, Hippy! Then maybe your cog nisance will balance better. Machine abuse makes useless lumps of metal out of us all!