I've started downloading New Moon. The DVD isn't actually released until the 20th so I have no idea what kind of shittiness I could be getting.
The first movie did not kill me nor did it have me actually create an love or hate opinion of Twilight. Let's see if this one does!
Good luck Suu. Science will remember your sacrifice.
I'll come to your funeral.
I figure since Eclipse is out in a couple of months, I need to hurry this experiment up.
Just remember, you cannot mind bleach hard enough.
Like I said, it doesn't bother me. :lulz:
I refuse to allow myself to hate it or love it. I just want to remain annoyingly moderate about the whole thing.
Meh. Sparkling fairy fuck paedophiles. Not vampires.
I thought New Moon was kinda cute :(
I watched it, and I got a DVD-grade copy a week before it's actually released. :kingmeh:
I'm not dead.
Actually, I think I liked that one better than the first one, for the lack of cheese and more darkness even though it was much slower and actually pretty depressing. The wolves needed some work but the part with the Volturi was pretty good. Totally open ended for Eclipse.
Life hasn't changed. Opinion hasn't changed. Unfortunately, neither has Kristen Stewart's acting.
Quote from: Suu on March 12, 2010, 06:04:27 AM
I watched it, and I got a DVD-grade copy a week before it's actually released. :kingmeh:
I'm not dead.
Actually, I think I liked that one better than the first one, for the lack of cheese and more darkness even though it was much slower and actually pretty depressing. The wolves needed some work but the part with the Volturi was pretty good. Totally open ended for Eclipse.
Life hasn't changed. Opinion hasn't changed. Unfortunately, neither has Kristen Stewart's acting.
Lol.
Glad it wasn't bad enough to shatter you mentally.
It's part of my Twilight experiment to prove that these movies cannot change your life, cannot drive you to obsessions, and cannot cause spitting hate.
People just want to be cool or want to be the opposite of what's cool. By remaining safely in the middle, I can argue both points, AND by actually seeing the movies, I allows me to not make assumptions and be able to back up my argument, which actually gives me a leg up on the haters, since most of them refuse to watch the films.
All it is in the long run is entertainment, and I was entertained. If I sat here for 2 hours and watched it, I was entertained to some extent. If I wasn't, I would have given up on it pretty quickly. My only real problem with it is, much like Half Blood Prince, it was filler. It had middle-book syndrome bad. It allowed some facts in but overall it was just character development. It allows the viewer to understand the story more, but there were still holes that probably have to be filled by reading the book.
I still won't touch the books though or actually purchase anything that may support the franchise.
To be honest, if the whole Twilight thing was only movies, I'd probably be more ok with it.
There's something about the books though, that really bugs me.
The fact that they were written by an obviously sexually-frustrated Mormon housewife with an English degree?
She has an English degree? You're kidding me!
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on March 12, 2010, 04:06:03 PM
She has an English degree? You're kidding me!
From Brigham Young.
Actually from what I understand, her other non-Twilight book, The Host, is actually really well done. She just can't write from the point of view of a teenage girl, which I think is why she was going back and re-writing everything from Edward's point of view until it leaked on the internet and she got pissed and quit for a while. I have to say I agree with her for doing that.
For leaking it or for re-doing it?
For quitting after the leak. She was pissed, basically said that those responsible for the leak had no respect for her, and that she was pretty much done with Twilight.
Ahhh. Yeah, that was probably a good idea, if her shit was going to be ganked like that.
Too bad, though. I might have liked to read from Edward's point of view.
Even the typo-ridden un-edited drafts she posted on her site are already better than the first book: http://www.stepheniemeyer.com/midnightsun.html
hehehe, went with badge and a couple of other girls to the theater with a ton of Vodka. Pulled a MTSK3000 during the whole film. :lulz:
great times, can't wait for the next one.
badge: "TAKE YOUR SHIRT OFF!!!!"
Quote from: -Kel- on March 12, 2010, 04:22:14 PM
hehehe, went with badge and a couple of other girls to the theater with a ton of Vodka. Pulled a MTSK3000 during the whole film. :lulz:
great times, can't wait for the next one.
badge: "TAKE YOUR SHIRT OFF!!!!"
Oh that just made me feel dirty. REALLY dirty. No 17 year old kid should have abs like that.
Just think of the body image, overbearing pushy parents, or eating dissorders that could be behind abs like that...
He (Taylor Lautner) was at Hasbro a couple of weeks ago when I still lived up there. He's going to be playing Stretch Armstrong. :x According to my Hasbro friends, they say he's actually quite nice if not a little shy, and yes, his dad was with him.
Quote from: Richter on March 12, 2010, 04:32:19 PM
Just think of the body image, overbearing pushy parents, or eating dissorders that could be behind abs like that...
:fap: :fap: :fap: don't care if he's 13 years younger :fap: :fap:
TEAM CGI WEREWOLVES!!!!
The werewolves could have been so much better. UGH. It had potential!...Okay no it really didn't. But the eye candy Indian guys weren't bad.
Also, they overdid the vampire makeup this time, the Volturi aside since they don't count. It should have been more subtle indoors like it was in the first movie, because every one of the Cullens had those orange contacts even in school.
the werewolves sucked. give me underworld and an American werewolf in London.
Underworld wasn't that great. Everything was just dark.
I haven't seen Wolfman yet, but some of the trailers look corny.
Quote from: Suu on March 12, 2010, 04:52:11 PM
Underworld wasn't that great. Everything was just dark.
I haven't seen Wolfman yet, but some of the trailers look corny.
i was just talking about the werewolf special effects for underworld.
i had such high hopes for wolfman but it has gotten awful reviews. :(
I just think werewolves in general are hard to pull off. Considering the budget that New Moon had, they SHOULD have been able to do better, but it looks like they spent most of the cash on digital video cameras and special effects for the fight scenes with the Volturi. I would have liked for them to have elaborated on that story more, but after all the shit with Jacob it just felt hurried or shortened to meet the time quota.
Had this one on my hard drive since Sunday, but haven't watched it yet. Will do another amusing "blow by blow" account of the film, once I am done. I'm hoping it is at least as bad as the book.
Quote from: Suu on March 12, 2010, 05:03:26 PM
I just think werewolves in general are hard to pull off. Considering the budget that New Moon had, they SHOULD have been able to do better, but it looks like they spent most of the cash on digital video cameras and special effects for the fight scenes with the Volturi. I would have liked for them to have elaborated on that story more, but after all the shit with Jacob it just felt hurried or shortened to meet the time quota.
They only spent about two, maybe three chapters in Italy, so it may not be as rushed as it seems.
Since my sister hates movie adaptations of ANY book (she will howl ad nauseam after any HP movie), she didn't give it a positive review, and like I said, I'm not reading the books, so I can't give that side of the story. Maybe I NEED to though, because the holes are driving me crazy.
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on March 12, 2010, 05:05:45 PM
They only spent about two, maybe three chapters in Italy, so it may not be as rushed as it seems.
That was definitely not 2 chapters worth of material.
To be honest, the books aren't really any better at filling the holes - I actually suspect its the source material dragging the film down, if anything.
Yeah, cause I admit and like LMNO mentioned, the idea of books is unsettling. As standalone films, they really aren't that bad, but you expect something with written word behind it to be a little bit more meaty.
I suspect the books would be better if Stephanie Meyer wasn't trying to write from an angsty teenage girl POV. You're right, Midnight Sun is way better.
The gimmick doesn't work for her. I've read some pages of Midnight Sun as well and it's a lot better. She should have gone with this from day one.
unable to sympathize with edward, who was pretty much a dick through the whole movie. Why is bella into this douchebag again?
special effects from 1996.
bad acting.
at least the soundtrack was okay.
fuck edward, I'm on team jacob
and then jacob cut his hair and now I'm on team BLADE.
Robert Pattison looks like he was hit in the face with a sledgehammer.
Edward SUCKS, Bella is just retarded. He's been trying to get rid of her for 2 damn movies and she can't take the hint. Fuck.
Gonna clean the kitchen, then watch.
I'll be cheering along Team Vodka Shots while writing my account of the film.
Quote from: Cain on March 12, 2010, 05:53:16 PM
Gonna clean the kitchen, then watch.
I'll be cheering along Team Vodka Shots while writing my account of the film.
I wasn't sober. Neither should you be.
Really, I think this was the sort of thing LSD was invented for, but alas, only vodka and scotch are available.
Quote from: Cain on March 12, 2010, 05:53:16 PM
Gonna clean the kitchen, then watch.
I'll be cheering along Team Vodka Shots while writing my account of the film.
that's the way to do it! :D
Quote from: Mistress Freeky on March 12, 2010, 05:05:45 PM
Quote from: Suu on March 12, 2010, 05:03:26 PM
I just think werewolves in general are hard to pull off. Considering the budget that New Moon had, they SHOULD have been able to do better, but it looks like they spent most of the cash on digital video cameras and special effects for the fight scenes with the Volturi. I would have liked for them to have elaborated on that story more, but after all the shit with Jacob it just felt hurried or shortened to meet the time quota.
They only spent about two, maybe three chapters in Italy, so it may not be as rushed as it seems.
This. The book was 90% abject misery and depression (she was
literally screaming herself to sleep for much of the book), and then all of a sudden, "OMG! WE GOTTA GO TO ITALY AND SAVE EDWARD! GO! YAY! NOT-LOVERS REUNITED!"
Quote from: Cain on March 12, 2010, 05:53:16 PM
Gonna clean the kitchen, then watch.
I'll be cheering along Team Vodka Shots while writing my account of the film.
Team vodka, FTW!
She was screaming in the movie too. :x
I just saw the first trailer for Eclipse, looks like a nice defined love triangle and a lot more violence. :|
According to the gospel of Sister Suu, Eclipse is actually the best book out of all four (she hated Breaking Dawn), so the movie, in theory, should be the best one.
In theory. :kingmeh:
Quote from: Suu on March 12, 2010, 07:14:40 PM
I just saw the first trailer for Eclipse, looks like a nice defined love triangle and a lot more violence. :|
According to the gospel of Sister Suu, Eclipse is actually the best book out of all four (she hated Breaking Dawn), so the movie, in theory, should be the best one.
In theory. :kingmeh:
i think that's the one with the womb.....the womb!!!
(http://sariah.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/bellawomb2.jpg)
someone actually made that. :shudder:
No, that's Breaking Dawn.
...and that's fucking unsettling.
It looks like an english muffin.
Damn I'm hungry.
I'm still trying to figure out wtf it's made out of.
Edit: I looked it up. It's felted wool. What a waste of wool. :vom:
Even a lot of the big Twilight boards think it's completely way too far and think the girl is a nutjob. I guess there may just be limits after all.
Quote from: Suu on March 12, 2010, 07:40:50 PM
I'm still trying to figure out wtf it's made out of.
Edit: I looked it up. It's felted wool. What a waste of wool. :vom:
Even a lot of the big Twilight boards think it's completely way too far and think the girl is a nutjob. I guess there may just be limits after all.
hmmm i think im going to buy a bunch of them then throw them at people during the last movie. :evil:
FLYING BLOODY UTERI!
Quote from: Suu on March 12, 2010, 07:58:37 PM
FLYING BLOODY UTERI!
must buy fake blood!!!!
thank you!!
hahahahhahaha
Five minutes in and I already downed my drink and decided to watch something else. I'm way to sober for this at the moment. I'll come back after watching another film, and several more drinks. I only have about five clogging up my HD at the moment (lazy week, too lazy to even watch films I've downloaded), so I might as well get rid of one while wasting time.
Quote from: -Kel- on March 12, 2010, 08:15:28 PM
Quote from: Suu on March 12, 2010, 07:58:37 PM
FLYING BLOODY UTERI!
must buy fake blood!!!!
thank you!!
hahahahhahaha
We are, after all, professionals.
I'm doing 4 drawings for Anime Boston with which to capitalize with, Team Edward, Team Jacob, Team D and Team Alucard.
Unfortunately, I draw boys really bad at times, so this has the potential to be REALLY bad unless I go super-deformed. Time to find the Twilight font...I know I'm going to regret this...
Quote from: Suu on March 12, 2010, 08:22:17 PM
Quote from: -Kel- on March 12, 2010, 08:15:28 PM
Quote from: Suu on March 12, 2010, 07:58:37 PM
FLYING BLOODY UTERI!
must buy fake blood!!!!
thank you!!
hahahahhahaha
We are, after all, professionals.
I'm doing 4 drawings for Anime Boston with which to capitalize with, Team Edward, Team Jacob, Team D and Team Alucard.
Unfortunately, I draw boys really bad at times, so this has the potential to be REALLY bad unless I go super-deformed. Time to find the Twilight font...I know I'm going to regret this...
oohooohooo!! team cgi werewolf tshirt!! please please please.
Quote from: -Kel- on March 12, 2010, 08:27:52 PM
Quote from: Suu on March 12, 2010, 08:22:17 PM
Quote from: -Kel- on March 12, 2010, 08:15:28 PM
Quote from: Suu on March 12, 2010, 07:58:37 PM
FLYING BLOODY UTERI!
must buy fake blood!!!!
thank you!!
hahahahhahaha
We are, after all, professionals.
I'm doing 4 drawings for Anime Boston with which to capitalize with, Team Edward, Team Jacob, Team D and Team Alucard.
Unfortunately, I draw boys really bad at times, so this has the potential to be REALLY bad unless I go super-deformed. Time to find the Twilight font...I know I'm going to regret this...
oohooohooo!! team cgi werewolf tshirt!! please please please.
Artwork first, but I may be able to get a shirt design up on Spreadshirt in a couple of days.
is the moral of this thread, that Suu has a higher shitty movie tolerance than Cain?
:lol: :D
I can honestly admit I've seen shittier. WAY shittier.
Quote from: Suu on March 12, 2010, 08:58:26 PM
I can honestly admit I've seen shittier. WAY shittier.
silent night, deadly night?
:lulz:
I'll freely admit to enjoying the hell out of that movie.
...actually it was probably more drinking a lot and yelling "TAKE YOUR SHIRT OFF" every time Jacob appeared onscreen. Gogo inappropriate movie theater behavior.
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on March 12, 2010, 09:05:00 PM
I'll freely admit to enjoying the hell out of that movie.
...actually it was probably more drinking a lot and yelling "TAKE YOUR SHIRT OFF" every time Jacob appeared onscreen. Gogo inappropriate movie theater behavior.
:lulz:
Quote from: Sparkley Pink Shit on March 12, 2010, 08:56:23 PM
is the moral of this thread, that Suu has a higher shitty movie tolerance than Cain?
:lol: :D
The more I make myself dislike the film, the funnier my review will be, and the more likelihood screaching Twi-tards will try and e-lynch me. Do not dispute this, for it is scientific fact.
I can't bring to pay to see it. I don't think I could not end up in jail.
This time, I noted down the times. It still makes no sense unless you watch the film while reading it, though.
00:44 I do not understand why they are calling this "New Moon" when the moon they are showing is clearly waning. Either the graphics department need to learn to read, or Stephanie Myers should rename her book.
02:05 SPARKLY! Ahem, I mean, "this is the face of a killer. A monster."
02: 45 No Bella, said the sarcastic reviewer, you are your grandmother. And then Bella was a Philosophy 101 paradox.
04: 52 Ah, Bella taking a picture of the "friends" she doesn't really like and never really hangs around with, because Sparkle-Boi is so super-kawaii!!! :D -^-^-
06:01 I also notice that Edward hasn't lost the constipated look he developed at the start of the first film.
06: 27 Wow, Jacob has really big incisors. Kinda canine looking or something. Oh wow, just imagine if he was a werewolf, wouldn't that just like, totally blow your mind, man?
07:42 "Bella, you give me everything just by breathing." I think my balls just shrivelled up and died upon hearing that.
08:00 Is it just me, or have they made the weird eye colouration really noticeable in this film? I swear, it was a lot more subtle in the first one, to the point that it's now starting to bug me.
08:50 Maybe my peer group were just very cynical, but for us, Romeo and Juliet was a hilarious play. I nearly choked when I had to read the part of Lord Capulet chastising Tybalt as a "saucy boy".
09:50 Wait, so his plan was to commit suicide if he failed? Note to self: wangsty sparkle-vampires suck at planning.
1146: Ah, obviously these are bad vampires. I can tell because their eyes are red. Its' colour-coded for our convenience, you see.
13:20 Its good they are explaining the Victoria thing, and not just leaving it hanging out there, so those who didn't see the previous film or don't realise her actress was replaced wonder why she wants to kill Sparkle-Boi.
15:20 On retrospect, throwing Bella hard against the wall (with a glass vase in front of it) because she dropped a little bit of blood may have been a counterproductive move. You know, if you didn't want a little bit of blood to turn into more blood. Then again, its not like anyone except Emmett and Alice were actually enjoying themselves anyway, unless standing around and looking awkward is the new way kids are having fun these days.
18: 25 It's very simple. Bella is quite vain, and attracted mainly to looks. If you read the book, Edward, you'd notice how shallow she is very quickly. Then again, you're not exactly perfect in this area either, Mr-I-Like-To-Watch-You-Sleep-At-Night-and-generally-stalk-you-before-ever-having-a-full-conversation Vampire Man.
19:15 "Oh Edward, this is never going to work out. Kiss me! I love you!" I'm pretty sure I mentioned this mixed-signals thing in the last movie.
20:27: Why do Bella's friends put up with her being moody, not wanting to talk to them and constantly pining for her sparkle-boi?
24:00 Oh god, the greatest romance of our time, ROONT FOREVER!
26:22 Fall of Woe! I now predict she will lie in the leaves, crying for her lost sparkle-boi.
26:50 Called it.
27: 55 "Hey guys, I was just strolling around in the woods with my top off, like you do, and found this girl lying around. I decided waking her up was too much effort, so I just carried her straight out. Did I miss anything while I was gone?"
29:18 Well, you could always try talking to your friends. It's probably easier than constantly ignoring them.
29:55 SCREAMS OF WOE!
32:15 "FUCK YOU, MY COUSIN DIED OF LEPROSY!"
32:39 Oh god, I'm starting to agree with the Valley Girl.
33:51 Wherein we discover Bella has all the survival instinct of a sea-monkey.
35:56 "If repeatedly stabbing myself in the head is what it takes to see him, I guess that is what I'll do".
38:22 Bella is such a wet blanket I doubt she could influence weeds to grow.
43:33 Prediction: Bella will jump off a cliff at some point in this film. Unlike most people who do this, she will not hit her head and drown, or be too drunk to swim and drown, and thus save us having to watch any more of the movie.
43:59 Kids, if you miss school, you to may turn into an idiot who likes to jump off cliffs for fun. MISSING SCHOOL IS BAD, OKAY?
45:50 Dude, couldn't you just run over to her? I mean, I know I'm one to talk about laziness, but that's seriously lazy.
48:00 Ah, this must be the "someone hits on Bella before she rudely shrugs him off scene", yes?
48:29 OH EM GEE she actually agreed!
48:57 I'm totally convinced that's her thing.
49:10 DATE ROONT!
49:51 Awkwaaaaaaard!
52:27 You were screwed up long before he came on the scene, darling.
53:58 It's called testosterone.
55: 53 "Oh, hey Bella. Just hanging around over here, in the rain, with my shirt off. You know, like people do. Sup?"
58:00 "They have shaved my hear, and so robbed me of my goodness. It's like Sampson, only lamer."
1:01:02 Danger Ghost Edward is actually much smarter than normal Edward or Bella. Why couldn't he be a main character?
1:02:42 A vampire who doesn't believe in werewolves? It's a little arbitrary, this scepticism of yours.
1:02:46 Wow, the CGI on this is terrible. Don't tell me that doesn't look wrong, around the mouth. Wow, that's actually surprisingly bad. I would've thought, given the popularity of the series and how cheap decent special effects now are, they would've done better than that.
1:03:29 BULLET TIME!
1:09:50 OK, that probably isn't just testosterone.
1:10:27 OH EM GEE, Jacob is a werewolf! My mind is, like, totally blown, man.
1:10:39 Hawt wolf on wolf action.
1:11:02 CGI seems better now, though still not amazing.
1:12:24 Yep, she's the vampire girl. Once you go fang, you can never go, er....shit, that doesn't rhyme.
1:13:24 What? She's terrible with weird. Admittedly, no more terrible than she is with everyone else, but she basically stands around looking awkward and acting unfriendly regardless of what species you are.
1:14:20 Wasn't the whole "fang against fur" thing kinda overplayed even by the time of Underworld? There is no conceivable reason why vampires and werewolves wouldn't get along, except possibly due to predation competition. Which isn't a factor in the case of the Cullens anyway. THINK IT THROUGH, PEOPLE.
1:14:33 "Have you tried not being a werewolf? Are you sure it's just not a phase? Maybe you're confused."
1:18:27 Fiver on the redhead. Er, Victoria. Crazy beats brawn, hands down.
1:20:15 Well, that was disappointing. All that running and music, for nothing.
1:20:56 Called it, not that this was hard. Meyers telegraphs EVERYTHING at least an hour in advance, just to make sure you can see her foreshadowing.
1:21:48 Well, that was clever.
1:22:30 Werewolf ex Machina. This and Vampire ex Machina make up pretty much every way Bella escapes her problems.
1:24:27 Here it comes, the "but I'm a monster, Bella" speech.
1:27: 40 "I also do shark-wrestling, on weekends."
1:27:48 Have I mentioned I like Alice? Cuz I really like Alice.
1:32: 30 This was not entirely unexpected, either. I mean, anyone who's read the end of Romeo and Juliet knows how that worked out, the idea that Edward would, at some point, think Bella dead and carry out his idiotic suicide plan was pretty much certain the moment he told said plan to Bella.
1:32:56 I think he meant, like, leaving a note or something.
1:33:56 A bit of subtle product placement is always nice.
1:34:31 Cullen looks kinda like Enki, if Enki learnt how to shave and had better hair.
1:37:22 Too many strong colours in one place is not good. It looks garish, people.
1:38:00 Shouting is faster than running. Just saying.
1:38: 29 SPARKLES!
1:39:08 No, you idiot, really? Danger Ghost Edward was much smarter than this.
1:44:09 As mentioned before, this is because I suspect she doesn't actually have a brain. So far, this theory is confirmed by pretty much everything she does, so it's not entirely without merit.
1:44:54 I'm telling you man, nothing is going on in there.
1:46:10 No brain, no pain. I'm sticking to this theory, it is the only one that makes sense so far.
1:46:20 You think she confounds you now, just wait until she starts jumping off cliffs and generally acting like an idiot again.
1:47:19 Good to see the Mook Code of Honour still holds. There are how many vampires in that room, and only one is actively trying to kill Bella/fight Edward? Yeah, exactly. No self-respecting Evil Overlord would put up with this kind of shoddy service. If you want someone dead, swarming them is perfectly acceptable.
1:49:18 Potential Alice on Bella action? Hawt.
1:51:56 Well nice job breaking it, hero.
1:53:10 Lol, pwnd.
1:54:10 YAY THE GREATEST ROMANTIC STORY OF OUR GENERATION IS BACK ON!
1:54:11 Although this does mean she's now two-timing on Jacob, the slut.
1:56:00 Democracy in action – two fangs, one vote.
1:57:30 Ah, the deadly love triangle of death!
1:58:16 "Mind rape Jacob for me, plz."
1:59:20 Oh, finally. I've only been waiting for this for most of the movie. I think my popcorn has gone cold, too.
1:59:27 Spoilsport.
After movie thoughts: either than wasn't as wangsty as the previous film, or I've gotten more resistant to it. I'm not sure which, though.
Also, for amusement, here are some reviews of the New Moon book, from the Twilight wiki site:
Review site, DearAuthor.com criticized that, "[Stephenie Meyer portrays Bella], either intentionally or not, as a selfish user who seemed to only be able to exist with the help of a man in her life." and rated New Moon a F. AvidBookReader.com rated New Moon a F and said that, "The protagonist and narrator, Bella, to be the weakest character in the story and the most annoying... I didn't really care for the teenage angst...[and] The thread with the werewolves was a bit uneven." Other critics at, Teenreads.com said, "In the middle, the story sometimes drags, and readers may long for the vampires' return. The events of New Moon, though, will leave you wanting to kill yourself for even considering this series good."
http://twilightsaga.wikia.com/wiki/New_Moon#Critical_Reception
I also love Alice and the rest of the Cullens. They make more sense then the rest of them.