No links yet, I just got done watching the live feed.
It appears they failed at the destroying the world bit.
I dunno, I just thought I saw a Higgs boson.
FUCK
ANOTHER ONE
AAAAA BITCHES ARE ALL OVER THE FUCKING PLAA----
I was just on the phone with my brother and the connection dropped unexpectedly. Is this the fault of the LHC?
Waiter there is a black hole in my soup
Shut up or everyone will want to claim the nobel prize.
Help, I'm stuck on the event horizon!
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Old, but relevant:
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They still have yet to do collisions at full power, from what I understand.
Nope, they did em this morning, (1 PM local time) 7 TeV collisions.
One small collision for man, one giant collision for mankind.
I was wondering what that gaping hole in the sky was...
wheetbix came outta my nose...
7TeV is half power, 14 is full.
2 beams, heading at each other. Each one at 7TeV is full power. ATM they're each at 3.5TeV, thus 7TeV, thus half power.
*checks*
Ok, apparently you correct, no full power LHC until 2012,
It's still significantly more powerful than any other accelerator we have though.
I'm looking forward to all the new textbooks that will have to be written when the LHC has done its job.
Well, one of it's "jobs" is also to prove that the Higgs Boson doesn't exist...
I mean, the LHC is simply a prohibitively expensive experiment. If they don't find anything, it still did what it was supposed to.
I thought it was supposed to have many experiments lined up, the results of which are supposed to change (or add to, or strengthen) a lot of physics? Like supersymmetry and various questions about EM forces?
Well, yeah, but like the old saying goes, sometimes when you ask a question, the answer is "maybe".
You seem to not have an especially rosy view of the LHC. Mind my asking why?
Quote from: LMNO on March 31, 2010, 08:18:51 PM
Well, yeah, but like the old saying goes, sometimes when you ask a question, the answer is "maybe".
:potd:
Quote from: Sigmatic on March 31, 2010, 08:24:54 PM
You seem to not have an especially rosy view of the LHC. Mind my asking why?
I think that the LHC is going to give us a fuckton of information.
I have
no idea what that information is going to be. Which, if you think about it, is the point.
Finding a new particle that is the fundamental building block of the universe would be a Black Swan.
But so would proof that such a particle can't possible exist.
Both results would fundamentally change QM.
So, I think you might be misinterpreting my statements. If the LHC works, that's going to be awesome. If it breaks, that will suck.
I'm not thinking that it
will find the Higgs Boson, I'm thinking it will help clarify what might be going on.
It has broken before, so yeah. I see what you're saying. Still, hearing about the LHC is really exciting. Just that we've even built it is, to me, really special. That we can use it to learn about the basic facts of reality is just unbelievable. I'm kind of a fanboy, come to think about it.
Let's say the LHC finds something that indicates a higgs boson couldn't exist. That indicates that our model of QM is pretty broken, doesn't it? Since a big chunk of it revolves around the assumption that the higgs boson exists (from what little I understand -- maybe it's the media up-playing the importance of a mystery particle with a cool name). Which would actually be a good thing: everything we actually use QM for will still work the same way it has, but there will be a lot more potential work in generating new models and testing them.
Quote from: Sigmatic on March 31, 2010, 08:39:28 PM
It has broken before, so yeah. I see what you're saying. Still, hearing about the LHC is really exciting. Just that we've even built it is, to me, really special. That we can use it to learn about the basic facts of reality is just unbelievable. I'm kind of a fanboy, come to think about it.
Like wise, its a fascinating thing to hear about regardless
Quote from: Enki v. 2.0 on April 01, 2010, 01:57:28 AM
Let's say the LHC finds something that indicates a higgs boson couldn't exist. That indicates that our model of QM is pretty broken, doesn't it? Since a big chunk of it revolves around the assumption that the higgs boson exists (from what little I understand -- maybe it's the media up-playing the importance of a mystery particle with a cool name). Which would actually be a good thing: everything we actually use QM for will still work the same way it has, but there will be a lot more potential work in generating new models and testing them.
The Higgs wasn't even mentioned when I took quantum physics. Most of what the LHC is out to test are things we can really only speculate about, I can't see it effecting the things that are already considered fairly certain, just the stuff where people have gone 'well if the higgs boson exists then it would explain why X happens'
we still know X happens, even if we have no idea why