The victim: A 36 year old woman who - along with her mother - went into physcial therapy as a career, specializing in working with brain damaged children. Obtained a PhD, did a lot of good work for over a decade.
The jackass: Driving 97MPH in a 45 MPH zone, at 2:15AM on a Friday night, blood alchohol at .17 (.02 over extreme DUI) in a Ford Explorer. Suspended license, no insurance, no registration.
The Cop: Sheriff's deputy driving on patrol, along with his fiance, a CVS officer (non-bonded, no weapon, still a cop).
The victim had been attending a going away party for a friend at Dillon's Country Bar on the largely empty state route 90 near Sierra Vista. She had drunk water all night, and was found to have a blood-alcohol content of .00...IE, she had nothing to drink.
At or around 2:15, she got in her Dodge Durango to go home, a distance of about 1 mile.
1.7 miles East, Sheriff's Deputy Berry and his fiance were heading East on patrol when a West-bound Ford Explorer blew past them doing 97MPH in a 45MPH zone. Deputy Berry made a U turn and began an attempt to catch up, accelerating to 110MPH on a wet road at night.
He never even got close. When he was still 2000+ feet behind the Explorer, the victim pulled out onto the highway, 650 feet in front of the Explorer. Had the Explorer been doing the speed limit, she had more than enough time to accelerate.
At this point, she is going 21 MPH. The Explorer is going 147 feet per second, and the police cruiser is going 162 feet per second in pursuit, at a distance of about a half mile from the Explorer.
The explorer impacted the back of the Durango without even hitting his brakes. It was an "offset rear end collision"...which is to say, he didn't hit her headlight to tail light, but about 10 inches off center. At this point, a number of things happened.
Deputy Berry began to brake at a moderate rate.
The Dodge Durango accelerated by about 50MPH in a third of a second. The victim was wearing her seat belt, but her car began to spin at the exact moment it began to accelerate. Two things happened: One, she broke the left side of her skull on the upright between the front and rear left side windows, and two, the right and left sides of her brain partially separated (read: her brain tore in half) under the extreme G's generated by the impact and acceleration.
The Ford Explorer turned sideways and began to roll. The driver was not wearing a seatbelt, and was ejected from the vehicle, which rolled over him on the concrete, leaving what I call "The Shroud of Dumbass" imprinted on the passenger side door of the vehicle. His ribcage and skiull break, and all major organs are destroyed or damaged. He dies within minutes.
The lawsuit alledges that had Deputy Berry turned on his emergency lights when he first saw the Explorer, the victim would have seen the pursuit and would not have made the turn. Evidence points otherwise, and we found that the deputy was following the law and department procedures by attempting to close the distance before turning on his rollers. As such, we found for the defendant.
The result: The victim is now permanently and profoundly brain damaged, but is expected to live out a normal life span. Her parents will take care of her for as long as possible, but she will eventually be moved into an institution, where proper therapy will most likely not be available. The children she worked with no longer have a therapist. This woman was also a pillar of the community, and was considered the "go to" person for people with trouble (very small town). They no longer have her for help, or even just friendship.
All because of one drunken bastard.
Tragic but I guess at least the dumbass bought the farm. A lot of stories like this end in community service and a couple of months banned from doing it again.
Still - it makes you :argh!: doesn't it
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 15, 2010, 05:22:00 PM
Tragic but I guess at least the dumbass bought the farm. A lot of stories like this end in community service and a couple of months banned from doing it again.
Still - it makes you :argh!: doesn't it
Not in this case. Had he lived, he would have received the same amount of jail time as if he had randomly chosen her and beat her with a piece of pipe. 12-20 years.
So how did it take you to deliberate... 20 seconds.. 30?
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on April 15, 2010, 05:26:09 PM
So how did it take you to deliberate... 20 seconds.. 30?
45 minutes. We wanted to be sure of the department procedures. The verdict was unanimous.
JESUS christ that is fucked up.. the part about the brain tearing in half... ugh... didn't even know that could happen. I feel really bad for this woman.
It's hard, I understand the family wants retribution, but the cop was doing his job and following the regulations of such. There was no way to predict that the victim would have attempted to get on the highway at that time, even with the speeds the Explorer was at there was no way she could have been saved otherwise.
Quote from: Cramulus on April 15, 2010, 05:37:30 PM
JESUS christ that is fucked up.. the part about the brain tearing in half... ugh... didn't even know that could happen. I feel really bad for this woman.
She now has the cognitive skills of a two year old. This will VERY gradually improve, but not by much. Her right-side paralysis should improve to a degree. She can somewhat feed herself, can stand with assistance, but will never wipe her own ass or clean herself again.
But she'll be a 3 year old until the day she dies, which will be - statistically - about the age of 82.
Oh it was the woman's parents suing, for some reason I figured it was the man's. Guess I'm too jaded
:sad:
Quote from: Suu on April 15, 2010, 05:38:35 PM
It's hard, I understand the family wants retribution, but the cop was doing his job and following the regulations of such. There was no way to predict that the victim would have attempted to get on the highway at that time, even with the speeds the Explorer was at there was no way she could have been saved otherwise.
My guess is that the victim's health insurance drove the lawsuit. The victim's mother was not in the least surprised at the verdict. I think also, she just wanted her day in court, to state as a matter of legal record what happened to her daughter. That happens a lot...It's sort of a scream at the system, a "look what has happened to us".
The court system is not founded on logic, after all.
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on April 15, 2010, 05:40:33 PM
Oh it was the woman's parents suing, for some reason I figured it was the man's. Guess I'm too jaded
:sad:
Yes, it was the victim's mother, acting as agent for the victim.
The correct course of action would be to attack the bar where the intoxicated man came from. He was obviously not fit to drive, and the bar did nothing to stop him or apparently cut him off with a BAC of that level. Shut that fucking bar down.
Quote from: Suu on April 15, 2010, 05:43:07 PM
The correct course of action would be to attack the bar where the intoxicated man came from. He was obviously not fit to drive, and the bar did nothing to stop him or apparently cut him off with a BAC of that level. Shut that fucking bar down.
It was never revealed to us whether or not the police even knew which bar he came out of. I doubt it, otherwise they would have been named as a co-defendant.
That sucks, no witnesses as far as the intoxicated driver goes, huh?
They did their job.
Sucks for the family, but those officers weren't the ones who got drunk and drove over 100.
Quote from: Suu on April 15, 2010, 05:49:13 PM
That sucks, no witnesses as far as the intoxicated driver goes, huh?
None. This was a classic example of horrible, horrible things happening to really good people for no reason whatsoever.
Quote from: Richter on April 15, 2010, 05:49:46 PM
They did their job.
Sucks for the family, but those officers weren't the ones who got drunk and drove over 100.
Cop: 110 MPH, not involved in accident.
Drunken Maniac: 97 MPH, no attempt to brake.
Personally, I suspect he wanted to kill himself, and chose a very selfish way to do it.
They could check his credit cards for recent transactions and inspect his car for receipts or other items from local bars in addition to canvassing the bars in the area with a photo of the man to determine where he came from. It's probably too late to do any of this though. If you can contact the woman maybe she can get her lawyer to subpoena this stuff.
Horrible story but unfortunately this shit happens all the time.
Quote from: Ten Ton Mantis on April 15, 2010, 05:51:36 PM
They could check his credit cards for recent transactions and inspect his car for receipts or other items from local bars in addition to canvassing the bars in the area with a photo of the man to determine where he came from. It's probably too late to do any of this though. If you can contact the woman maybe she can get her lawyer to subpoena this stuff.
Horrible story but unfortunately this shit happens all the time.
Yeah, and I had to sit on that jury. I felt ill the whole time.
It's possible he was drinking at home. Then what, sue the liquor store he got his booze from?
They could be charged, IIRC it's illegal for a store to sell alcohol to someone who is obviously drunk.
Quote from: Ten Ton Mantis on April 15, 2010, 06:23:21 PM
They could be charged, IIRC it's illegal for a store to sell alcohol to someone who is obviously drunk.
Supposing he was drunk when he bought it.
You know, this is showing me another angle why I don't like the death penalty.
What I mean to say is, if the guy lived, and was competent to stand trial, and was convicted, and (for whatever hypothetical) was executed, I would presume that the victim's family would have some sense of closure.
But the guy is dead. It's like God saw the accident coming, said, "Guilty", and capped his ass. But I get the sense that the family still feels helpless, hopeless, and fucked. So it's not the death that makes people feel better.
But it has to be more than just the ritual of a trial.
So, maybe it's making the perp realize and admit to his guilt, and to have to live with it. I dunno. I haven't come to a conclusion on this yet.
Dok, if the above is a threadjack, split it.
It's not a threadjack, but I disagree. The ritual of the trial seems - to me - to be what they wanted. To hear that the sole person at fault was the drunk, and that their daughter did nothing wrong, seemed to have an effect on the mother. I am not sure of this, though.
When I heard the synopsis of the case at the beginning, I really, really wanted to get off that jury. But you can't really do that, not if you spend all day laughing at complacent primates who want the benefits of civilization without having to perform the unpleasant, vitally necessary duties that make that civilization possible. But now I feel rotten and depressed.
This is why I'm kinda funny with the whole issue of criminal justice. Sometimes bad shit just happens and there really nothing you can do to fix it. Whether the guy had lived and gone to jail and eventually repented and set up a charity drop in center for homeless kids or whatever ... the woman is still brain damaged. Is there any way to make up for that? I'm not for a minute suggesting that had the driver lived there'd be no point in punishing him, I'm just not sure if it would make anything better.
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 15, 2010, 06:52:31 PM
This is why I'm kinda funny with the whole issue of criminal justice. Sometimes bad shit just happens and there really nothing you can do to fix it. Whether the guy had lived and gone to jail and eventually repented and set up a charity drop in center for homeless kids or whatever ... the woman is still brain damaged. Is there any way to make up for that? I'm not for a minute suggesting that had the driver lived there'd be no point in punishing him, I'm just not sure if it would make anything better.
No, but there is a way to make sure she gets proper therapy so that she progresses rather than regresses.
And the punishment isn't to make things right. It's to punish a person for doing something wrong. Whether it be rehabilitative or as a deterrent, there must be an accounting. In this case, the criminal involved escaped by being crushed to death.
Whole situation = "Well, Shit."
Quote from: Richter on April 15, 2010, 06:57:51 PM
Whole situation = "Well, Shit."
That's about it. It's nice to know I still have a sense of outrage, though.
I'm not sure I agree that being crushed to death is escaping but I'm pretty sure it's a personal opinion - I aint going to argue the toss. Just hope you don't lose too much sleep over the whole thing - sounds like a shit couple of days.
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 15, 2010, 06:59:50 PM
I'm not sure I agree that being crushed to death is escaping but I'm pretty sure it's a personal opinion - I aint going to argue the toss. Just hope you don't lose too much sleep over the whole thing - sounds like a shit couple of days.
It was 6 days of tedious misery. I haven't lost any sleep, but that may simply be because I bludgeon myself to sleep with drugs every night.
Damn.
You know, I always sort of wanted to do jury duty before I read this. I thought it'd be interesting, some kind of exposé into the justice system beyond just a qualification in Law or whatever, a "behind the scenes," if you will.
Now though, I'm not so sure.
Quote from: BDS on April 15, 2010, 07:03:49 PM
Damn.
You know, I always sort of wanted to do jury duty before I read this. I thought it'd be interesting, some kind of exposé into the justice system beyond just a qualification in Law or whatever, a "behind the scenes," if you will.
Now though, I'm not so sure.
Nothing about court is pleasant. If things were pleasant, there would be no reason to put it in a court.
Point. Perhaps jury duty wouldn't be so fun.
I just put my pre-summons in the mail today. I'm due to report sometime in July.
Quote from: BDS on April 15, 2010, 07:09:20 PM
Point. Perhaps jury duty wouldn't be so fun.
It isn't. It IS, however, absolutely essential. It is the only portion of our governing system that works the way it is supposed to...a number of amateurs are called in and asked to make a decision, because the state is incapable of making that sort of decision.
So there you have it. Either you serve on a jury when called, or you allow the state to decide the fate of individuals accused of wrongdoing.
Quote from: Suu on April 15, 2010, 07:09:48 PM
I just put my pre-summons in the mail today. I'm due to report sometime in July.
Hopefully you won't actually be empanelled.
I'm going in on April 23 (zomg).
I have to be in court tomorrow at 9am.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 15, 2010, 07:11:33 PM
Quote from: BDS on April 15, 2010, 07:09:20 PM
Point. Perhaps jury duty wouldn't be so fun.
It isn't. It IS, however, absolutely essential. It is the only portion of our governing system that works the way it is supposed to...a number of amateurs are called in and asked to make a decision, because the state is incapable of making that sort of decision.
So there you have it. Either you serve on a jury when called, or you allow the state to decide the fate of individuals accused of wrongdoing.
I agree with you on that. When I was learning law, juries were one of the only things that seemed to make sense, one of the only things that I didn't need to question.
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Quote from: BDS on April 15, 2010, 07:09:20 PM
Point. Perhaps jury duty wouldn't be so fun.
It isn't. It IS, however, absolutely essential. It is the only portion of our governing system that works the way it is supposed to...a number of amateurs are called in and asked to make a decision, because the state is incapable of making that sort of decision.
So there you have it. Either you serve on a jury when called, or you allow the state to decide the fate of individuals accused of wrongdoing.
I agree with you on that. When I was learning law, juries were one of the only things that seemed to make sense, one of the only things that I didn't need to question.
Once you sit through a trial, the weirdness all makes a strange sort of sense. Doesn't make it a fun experience, though.
They're a necessary evil. And as as registered voter of the United States, it sucks when you're summoned but...it's an experience that everyone should really partake in.
Quote from: Suu on April 15, 2010, 07:20:18 PM
They're a necessary evil. And as as registered voter of the United States, it sucks when you're summoned but...it's an experience that everyone should really partake in.
Agreed.
Mmm. I think that's sort of one of the problems with just learning about the system, sure, you can learn the laws, and apply them to given scenarios in exams and stuff, but there's no emotion. There's nobody relying on your verdict, you're not handing out justice, there's no deliberation or outside factors to consider, there's a clear right answer at the end.
And yeah. I sort of hope I do get picked to do it at some point during my life, y'know, just for the experience.
Quote from: BDS on April 15, 2010, 07:22:18 PM
Mmm. I think that's sort of one of the problems with just learning about the system, sure, you can learn the laws, and apply them to given scenarios in exams and stuff, but there's no emotion. There's nobody relying on your verdict, you're not handing out justice, there's no deliberation or outside factors to consider, there's a clear right answer at the end.
And yeah. I sort of hope I do get picked to do it at some point during my life, y'know, just for the experience.
This is precisely it. When you're actually there, it's not longer theory and hypotheticals. It's a collection of damaged and destroyed lives, and it's on you to decide what the state will do about it.
And the opposing lawyers, well, they eat lunch together and talk about football. As you'd expect.
My first summons I was 19 year old, still living in Florida. I had to miss school for 2 weeks and fell behind. The case was domestic abuse...typical Florida White Trash. I was the youngest one on the jury, but I still just remember sitting there and just being totally disgusted at the situation.
Quote from: Suu on April 15, 2010, 07:25:21 PM
My first summons I was 19 year old, still living in Florida. I had to miss school for 2 weeks and fell behind. The case was domestic abuse...typical Florida White Trash. I was the youngest one on the jury, but I still just remember sitting there and just being totally disgusted at the situation.
On the plus side, you can learn a lot from these things...In an unpleasant fashion, granted, but certainly not as unpleasantly as going through them yourself.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 15, 2010, 07:24:03 PM
Quote from: BDS on April 15, 2010, 07:22:18 PM
Mmm. I think that's sort of one of the problems with just learning about the system, sure, you can learn the laws, and apply them to given scenarios in exams and stuff, but there's no emotion. There's nobody relying on your verdict, you're not handing out justice, there's no deliberation or outside factors to consider, there's a clear right answer at the end.
And yeah. I sort of hope I do get picked to do it at some point during my life, y'know, just for the experience.
This is precisely it. When you're actually there, it's not longer theory and hypotheticals. It's a collection of damaged and destroyed lives, and it's on you to decide what the state will do about it.
And the opposing lawyers, well, they eat lunch together and talk about football. As you'd expect.
Yeah. As much as I think I know about the theory (not so much any more, incidentally. i never was very good at remembering stuff) I have literally no idea how I'd respond to being tasked with that kind of responsibility. Like, if I fuck up now, at the most I might upset a couple people, I might cause some shit, whatever. But in that situation, where you have to pick up the pieces of whatever pile up is coming through at that time, that's a whole lot of responsibility, y'know? I don't know if I'd be able to handle it, to be honest.
Oh fuck yeah. I learned never to marry an alcoholic from Ohio twice my age who was fooling around with his niece.
Quote from: Suu on April 15, 2010, 07:32:55 PM
Oh fuck yeah. I learned never to marry an alcoholic from Ohio twice my age who was fooling around with his niece.
And perhaps you learned some of the basic warning signs of an abusive relationship.
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Quote from: BDS on April 15, 2010, 07:22:18 PM
Mmm. I think that's sort of one of the problems with just learning about the system, sure, you can learn the laws, and apply them to given scenarios in exams and stuff, but there's no emotion. There's nobody relying on your verdict, you're not handing out justice, there's no deliberation or outside factors to consider, there's a clear right answer at the end.
And yeah. I sort of hope I do get picked to do it at some point during my life, y'know, just for the experience.
This is precisely it. When you're actually there, it's not longer theory and hypotheticals. It's a collection of damaged and destroyed lives, and it's on you to decide what the state will do about it.
And the opposing lawyers, well, they eat lunch together and talk about football. As you'd expect.
Yeah. As much as I think I know about the theory (not so much any more, incidentally. i never was very good at remembering stuff) I have literally no idea how I'd respond to being tasked with that kind of responsibility. Like, if I fuck up now, at the most I might upset a couple people, I might cause some shit, whatever. But in that situation, where you have to pick up the pieces of whatever pile up is coming through at that time, that's a whole lot of responsibility, y'know? I don't know if I'd be able to handle it, to be honest.
Anyone who thinks they are able to handle it has no business on a jury. You manage, as best you can, and you (hopefully) try to remember that an accusation does not equal guilt, and the severity of the crime also does not equal evidence of guilt. The real difficulty lies in leaving sympathy and prejudice at the door.
Well, on the plus side you got to participate in absolving an innocent officer of guilt for doing his job the way he was supposed to.
Small consolation for having to see that level of tragedy I am sure, but still better than if someone who had a hatred of police officers had ended up on the jury instead.
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on April 15, 2010, 07:43:35 PM
Well, on the plus side you got to participate in absolving an innocent officer of guilt for doing his job the way he was supposed to.
Small consolation for having to see that level of tragedy I am sure, but still better than if someone who had a hatred of police officers had ended up on the jury instead.
I really don't like cops. I was able to leave that at the door.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 15, 2010, 07:34:25 PM
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Oh fuck yeah. I learned never to marry an alcoholic from Ohio twice my age who was fooling around with his niece.
And perhaps you learned some of the basic warning signs of an abusive relationship.
So what color should I wear to the divorce tomorrow?
Quote from: Suu on April 15, 2010, 07:45:57 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 15, 2010, 07:34:25 PM
Quote from: Suu on April 15, 2010, 07:32:55 PM
Oh fuck yeah. I learned never to marry an alcoholic from Ohio twice my age who was fooling around with his niece.
And perhaps you learned some of the basic warning signs of an abusive relationship.
So what color should I wear to the divorce tomorrow?
FLAMBOYANT!!!
Quote from: Suu on April 15, 2010, 07:45:57 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 15, 2010, 07:34:25 PM
Quote from: Suu on April 15, 2010, 07:32:55 PM
Oh fuck yeah. I learned never to marry an alcoholic from Ohio twice my age who was fooling around with his niece.
And perhaps you learned some of the basic warning signs of an abusive relationship.
So what color should I wear to the divorce tomorrow?
Red, obviously. But I don't see Herbert surviving an attempt to physically abuse you.
Yeah, I believe that scarlet is traditional.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 15, 2010, 07:46:47 PM
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Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 15, 2010, 07:34:25 PM
Quote from: Suu on April 15, 2010, 07:32:55 PM
Oh fuck yeah. I learned never to marry an alcoholic from Ohio twice my age who was fooling around with his niece.
And perhaps you learned some of the basic warning signs of an abusive relationship.
So what color should I wear to the divorce tomorrow?
Red, obviously. But I don't see Herbert surviving an attempt to physically abuse you.
He's not the type anyway.
For laughs, say that as part of the settlement you want his WOW account.
I actually don't think he plays anymore. He learned his lesson, and that's good enough for me.
Quote from: Suu on April 15, 2010, 07:48:43 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 15, 2010, 07:46:47 PM
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Quote from: Suu on April 15, 2010, 07:32:55 PM
Oh fuck yeah. I learned never to marry an alcoholic from Ohio twice my age who was fooling around with his niece.
And perhaps you learned some of the basic warning signs of an abusive relationship.
So what color should I wear to the divorce tomorrow?
Red, obviously. But I don't see Herbert surviving an attempt to physically abuse you.
He's not the type anyway.
Didn't think so. You aren't the type of person to put up with physical abuse, so if he was the kind of guy to do it, he wouldn't have married you in the first place. Wife beaters are a form of parasite, and they choose their hosts carefully...Hence all the stories of abused women taking the bastard back.
The emotional abuse was unexpected, but that sorta flew under the radar, especially with my inexperience with relationships to that point.
Whatever, I'm wearing black, but I do have red lipstick.
Quote from: Suu on April 15, 2010, 07:57:14 PM
The emotional abuse was unexpected, but that sorta flew under the radar, especially with my inexperience with relationships to that point.
Whatever, I'm wearing black, but I do have red lipstick.
Emotional abuse is a whole different kettle of fish, and usually results -
as far as I have seen - when the abuser believes that his/her spouse is better than them in some way, and the person's inclination is to belittle the person to drag them down to their level.
Example: Herbert has a wandering eye. He then makes up for that by constantly accusing YOU of being unfaithful, so that he can feel a bit better about his activities/desires.
Precisely. Other than that he's not the type of guy to hit a girl. Ever. He's not a piece of shit, just our relationship didn't work out because we have strong personality differences.
...That's not going to stop me from walking in there tomorrow looking smokin' mind you and telling the court flat out, "Yes, I'm unemployed and not collecting, no I'm not pursuing alimony but I will not turn it down if the court feels the need to grant it."
:mrgreen:
Quote from: Suu on April 15, 2010, 08:05:12 PM
Precisely. Other than that he's not the type of guy to hit a girl. Ever. He's not a piece of shit, just our relationship didn't work out because we have strong personality differences.
...That's not going to stop me from walking in there tomorrow looking smokin' mind you and telling the court flat out, "Yes, I'm unemployed and not collecting, no I'm not pursuing alimony but I will not turn it down if the court feels the need to grant it."
:mrgreen:
Well, the girl he wound up with is eventually going to learn a fairly important lesson.
If he does it with you, he'll do it to you.As character flaws go, though, it's not the worst of all possible scenarios. He could have outright cheated on you and brought you home some horrible illness.
True.
Though the new girl that he was supposedly dating that ended because of distance is now feverishly working to lose weight, make a Steampunk costume that HAPPENS to be a seamstress, completely with a pin cushion ring, and is trying to copy my art style.
...I turned down her Rebel Legion application. Because her Leia costume fucking sucked too.
Quote from: Suu on April 15, 2010, 08:13:53 PM
True.
Though the new girl that he was supposedly dating that ended because of distance is now feverishly working to lose weight, make a Steampunk costume that HAPPENS to be a seamstress, completely with a pin cushion ring, and is trying to copy my art style.
...I turned down her Rebel Legion application. Because her Leia costume fucking sucked too.
:lulz:
There are no words.
You should have seen the dress she tried to squeeze herself in for the ball we had. The boning failed.
It's like, they reached an equilibrium of patheticness...
Quote from: Suu on April 15, 2010, 08:24:06 PM
The boning failed.
Where the hell do I go with THIS? :lulz:
No words.
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The boning failed.
Where the hell do I go with THIS? :lulz:
I'd like to add that I'm a little disappointed in LMNO.
I was stymied by the vast amount of possible comments I could make.
The last 7 comments made me
:spittake:
There is no woman in the world right now as shallow as I am right now. Just sayin'.
-Suu
Why yes, I did just do a makeup test for my DIVORCE.
There is nothing wrong with shallow. When practiced In moderation.
Well I never wear lip color, especially hooker red, so I needed to make sure I could do my eyes in a moderate way! I swear!
There is nothing more hawt than a woman scorned :fap:
As long as the blister on my toe cooperates, there will be 3" stiletto action as well.
http://www.abc-of-hiking.com/hiking-health/blisters.asp (http://www.abc-of-hiking.com/hiking-health/blisters.asp)
Quote* If the Blisters are at the surface and filled with fluid, you should take a sterilized needle and pierce the skin blisters. Pierce from the side close to the base of the Blister and let all the liquid flow out. If the affected skin is still intact then do not remove it. Instead, cover the drained Blister with moleskin. If the affected area is ruptured then carefully cut it away and clean the underlying new skin with rubbing alcohol or an antiseptic. If you have the time, you should allow the new skin to harden in the open air. If you need to move on again, apply moleskin and use gauze to keep the moleskin from directly contacting the tender new skin. Once the new skin has hardened a bit, you can apply benzoin or rubbing alcohol to further toughen up the new skin. Keep the new skin clean and sterilize it to prevent infection.
* If the Blisters on Foot are buried deep in your skin and does not hold a lot of liquid then do not try to puncture them. Instead, just cover them with moleskin.
Revenge is a dish best served in 3" stilettos :wink:
Oh they already popped, just a bit tender. I just tried on the shoes, I should be fine.
I suppose covertly captured pics of the look on his face are out of the question? :cry:
Yeah...courtroom etiquette and that.
Figures. Artists impression will have to do then :mrgreen:
Noooooo popping a blister is a terribly painful idea :x
Will you at least take some pics of your outfit prior to leaving the house?
I don't have a full length mirror :(.
I will attest that I was unfortunately one of the best dressed there. Seriously people, you're in a courtroom, DRESS APPROPRIATELY. Including Mr. Herbert and his fucking mohawk.
Quote from: Suu on April 16, 2010, 04:29:18 PM
I don't have a full length mirror :(.
I will attest that I was unfortunately one of the best dressed there. Seriously people, you're in a courtroom, DRESS APPROPRIATELY. Including Mr. Herbert and his fucking mohawk.
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Ugh. What a sad little case you had, Rog. :( I've been "fortunate"? enough to escape jury duty, somehow. So I have yet to have that experience. I don't look forward to it, but I will go through with it.
My mom had it recently, thinking they'd dismiss her due to my dad's circumstances, but they still kept her on till the jury was dismissed for other reasons.
Quote from: Jenne on April 16, 2010, 04:55:34 PM
Ugh. What a sad little case you had, Rog. :( I've been "fortunate"? enough to escape jury duty, somehow. So I have yet to have that experience. I don't look forward to it, but I will go through with it.
My mom had it recently, thinking they'd dismiss her due to my dad's circumstances, but they still kept her on till the jury was dismissed for other reasons.
Yeah, just spoke to the plaintiff's attorney, who requested a critique on the case, which I was happy to give.
Summary: It was a horrible thing, the case was depressing as hell, and I can't assign blame to the Sheriff, who was never in control of the situation until the damage was done.
God I would hate to be on a jury for something like that. Knowing me I would have sat there and just cried or something equally stupid. Makes me appreciate my illegal fishing trial all the more.
Sucks you got stuck doing it, but hey you are clear for 6 months right? Or did you say they could call you back right away?
Quote from: Khara on April 16, 2010, 07:29:44 PM
God I would hate to be on a jury for something like that. Knowing me I would have sat there and just cried or something equally stupid. Makes me appreciate my illegal fishing trial all the more.
Sucks you got stuck doing it, but hey you are clear for 6 months right? Or did you say they could call you back right away?
2 years, actually.
I was mistaken. If you serve ON a jury, you're clear for 2 years. If you are called but don't serve, 1 year. If they cancel your jury pool (happened to me before), you go back in the pool.