Didn't want to dump a gigantic image wall in the pics thread. So I present to you this:
(http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/tdomf/139822/how%20not%20to%20fail%20at%20life%201.png)
PART TWO
(http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/tdomf/139822/how%20not%20to%20fail%20at%20life%202.png)
PART THREE
(http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/tdomf/139822/how%20not%20to%20fail%20at%20life%203.png)
I think buying little resin figures of anime girls taking a shit on things and looking cute isn't that bad of an idea.
Source:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJfspM9qzyM
taking a job in a call center is possibly the dumbest career move you can make. There's no job stability of any kind (my roommate thought he could get around this by getting a job in a union call center, the company just got bought out. There are now union and non union call centers, guess which one is getting the ax?), no real chance for advancement, and once you've taken a call center job, nobody but call center's will want to touch you, you make too much money for entry level jobs that have a future, and will be seen as a script monkey with no real skills by anybody looking to hire for in house jobs.
Quite possibly the only useful thing 4chan has ever produced :lulz:
Quote from: Requia ☣ on April 26, 2010, 03:54:03 PM
taking a job in a call center is possibly the dumbest career move you can make. There's no job stability of any kind (my roommate thought he could get around this by getting a job in a union call center, the company just got bought out. There are now union and non union call centers, guess which one is getting the ax?), no real chance for advancement, and once you've taken a call center job, nobody but call center's will want to touch you, you make too much money for entry level jobs that have a future, and will be seen as a script monkey with no real skills by anybody looking to hire for in house jobs.
Yeah. I recommend the IT sector; most 4chan members would already have some minimal skills in that area.
even a call center is better than no job though, right?
I particularly liked the bit about the human tribal dynamic. You're either a child, an adult, or an asshole! :lulz:
Good cartoon Cram! :thumb:
I liked this. Although, the difference between a call center job and a paper hat job is that the paper hat job teaches you food service skills that might lead to you eventually getting a real food-service job, whereas the call center will just be miserable.
Also, I have never one time in my whole life, had a guy buy me an expensive gift before we were officially dating. Does that really happen?
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on April 26, 2010, 05:24:52 PM
Also, I have never one time in my whole life, had a guy buy me an expensive gift before we were officially dating. Does that really happen?
Have you ever been the object of affection from an ubergeek?
I saw that as an initial strategy a few times from my HS circle. generally doesn't work that great from what i saw....
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on April 26, 2010, 05:24:52 PM
I liked this. Although, the difference between a call center job and a paper hat job is that the paper hat job teaches you food service skills that might lead to you eventually getting a real food-service job, whereas the call center will just be miserable.
Also, I have never one time in my whole life, had a guy buy me an expensive gift before we were officially dating. Does that really happen?
Nope.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on April 26, 2010, 03:54:03 PM
taking a job in a call center is possibly the dumbest career move you can make. There's no job stability of any kind (my roommate thought he could get around this by getting a job in a union call center, the company just got bought out. There are now union and non union call centers, guess which one is getting the ax?), no real chance for advancement, and once you've taken a call center job, nobody but call center's will want to touch you, you make too much money for entry level jobs that have a future, and will be seen as a script monkey with no real skills by anybody looking to hire for in house jobs.
I've done telemarketing work between doing jobs that I'm proud enough to proclaim I'd done them on a resume. It was a formative experience because I was paid to develop my ability at foreign accents (which is still terrible and something I avoid during good times with friends.) I'd pretend to be a swede, afrikaan, mildly retarded, Jennifer Tilly, many permutations of good times @ 8.95 an hour + commission.
"Hello, it's Joey Stallin calling from ABR Cruise Lines... Do you still want that 3 day 2 night dream vacation to fort lauderdale florida AND a bonus tennis bracelet? "
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on April 26, 2010, 05:24:52 PM
I liked this. Although, the difference between a call center job and a paper hat job is that the paper hat job teaches you food service skills that might lead to you eventually getting a real food-service job, whereas the call center will just be miserable.
I actually learned a ton of useful stuff at my first call center job (the second was useless script monkey work). I really enjoyed it too, when the bosses weren't going out of their way to make the job miserable. The problem is, nobody *believes* that what I did at that job gave me valuable experience. I also got payed a hell of a lot more than any fast food job (it would be a decent living if the employment was steady, but layoffs are too common, and they like to fuck with your hours during the slow season).
Quote from: Iptuous on April 26, 2010, 05:27:29 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on April 26, 2010, 05:24:52 PM
Also, I have never one time in my whole life, had a guy buy me an expensive gift before we were officially dating. Does that really happen?
Have you ever been the object of affection from an ubergeek?
I saw that as an initial strategy a few times from my HS circle. generally doesn't work that great from what i saw....
Ew. No.
I've had friends go for the tech support/call center job thinking it would be some sort of "gateway" into computer work, which of course it's not at all, and if you want to develop programming skills the only way to do that is to learn programming and then do it. On the other hand, fast food gives you teamwork/customer service/food handling/retail experience points, which you can parlay into relevance for a number of different jobs if you're good at resume writing. Turnover is high in fast food, which means you may even have supervisory and/or accounting experience to put on your resume within a year. Coffee shops are also good for that.
Working somewhere for a full year is crucial at that stage, because it shows future prospective employers that you will stay with even the stereotypical suck job.
Call centers are just "experience" to put on paper, if someone wants to get into actual IT they need to also get some certifications. They are easy to obtain and not terribly expensive. A+ certification would be an OK start, and they should also get certifications in whatever they want to work in (Cisco for networking, Microsoft stuff for most business offices, etc.).
It helps if their call center job is at least tangentially related to what sort of tech work they want to do. At the end of the day, anyone can work at a call center (especially the low level stuff) as long as they're literate and can speak whatever language they're supposed to be supporting. A lot of IT jobs require a certain amount of experience, and call centers can actually work as a doorway in that respect.
ITT
Quote from: Remington on April 26, 2010, 04:18:11 PM
Quite possibly the only useful thing 4chan has ever produced :lulz:
I like it. I don't actually know anyone who's in such a state that they would need this, but that's probably because those people don't get out much. Actually yeah I do know someone come to think of it, but I don't think his English is very good, otherwise I'd send him this.
I have to admit, this is sort of useful to me right now.
:x
It makes me think we should take some of the free thinking but still rational attitudes of PD,
sum them up in about 6-10 pithy bullet points
and illustrate them using MS Paint
There you go... (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=14099.0)
I liked this. Got a good chuckle out of it too.
Wow, humor AND content from b-tards.
I am impressed.
Quote from: Vladimir Poopin on April 26, 2010, 06:09:12 PM
Call centers are just "experience" to put on paper, if someone wants to get into actual IT they need to also get some certifications. They are easy to obtain and not terribly expensive. A+ certification would be an OK start, and they should also get certifications in whatever they want to work in (Cisco for networking, Microsoft stuff for most business offices, etc.).
It helps if their call center job is at least tangentially related to what sort of tech work they want to do. At the end of the day, anyone can work at a call center (especially the low level stuff) as long as they're literate and can speak whatever language they're supposed to be supporting. A lot of IT jobs require a certain amount of experience, and call centers can actually work as a doorway in that respect.
You need the certs just to get call center jobs in IT here. Even that isn't enough anymore.
I thought this would be of some use, as I am a firm believer in the fake-it-til-you-make-it school of thought*.
*Which helps with most things, except being out of toilet paper.
Quote from: Iptuous on April 26, 2010, 05:27:29 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on April 26, 2010, 05:24:52 PM
Also, I have never one time in my whole life, had a guy buy me an expensive gift before we were officially dating. Does that really happen?
Have you ever been the object of affection from an ubergeek?
I saw that as an initial strategy a few times from my HS circle. generally doesn't work that great from what i saw....
The "random expensive gift" strategy is about as subtle as a caveman club to the head. The best way to attract a woman is good communication skills and covert (not overt) displays of wealth and dominance.
It has some good advice but it's tailored to hopeless shut-ins.
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on April 27, 2010, 10:21:36 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on April 26, 2010, 05:27:29 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on April 26, 2010, 05:24:52 PM
Also, I have never one time in my whole life, had a guy buy me an expensive gift before we were officially dating. Does that really happen?
Have you ever been the object of affection from an ubergeek?
I saw that as an initial strategy a few times from my HS circle. generally doesn't work that great from what i saw....
The "random expensive gift" strategy is about as subtle as a caveman club to the head. The best way to attract a woman is good communication skills and covert (not overt) displays of wealth and dominance.
Or competence and confidence, which I will take over wealth and dominance any day.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on April 27, 2010, 10:44:21 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on April 27, 2010, 10:21:36 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on April 26, 2010, 05:27:29 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on April 26, 2010, 05:24:52 PM
Also, I have never one time in my whole life, had a guy buy me an expensive gift before we were officially dating. Does that really happen?
Have you ever been the object of affection from an ubergeek?
I saw that as an initial strategy a few times from my HS circle. generally doesn't work that great from what i saw....
The "random expensive gift" strategy is about as subtle as a caveman club to the head. The best way to attract a woman is good communication skills and covert (not overt) displays of wealth and dominance.
Or competence and confidence, which I will take over wealth and dominance any day.
Dominance is for sissies. An SO is supposed to be a partner, not a servant.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 27, 2010, 10:45:18 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on April 27, 2010, 10:44:21 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on April 27, 2010, 10:21:36 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on April 26, 2010, 05:27:29 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on April 26, 2010, 05:24:52 PM
Also, I have never one time in my whole life, had a guy buy me an expensive gift before we were officially dating. Does that really happen?
Have you ever been the object of affection from an ubergeek?
I saw that as an initial strategy a few times from my HS circle. generally doesn't work that great from what i saw....
The "random expensive gift" strategy is about as subtle as a caveman club to the head. The best way to attract a woman is good communication skills and covert (not overt) displays of wealth and dominance.
Or competence and confidence, which I will take over wealth and dominance any day.
Dominance is for sissies. An SO is supposed to be a partner, not a servant.
I didn't mean dominance in the male chauvanist/wife abuser sense. I meant it as the ability to climb the social ladder.
Still, even in that sense, I am less interested in dominance than confidence and competence.
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on April 27, 2010, 10:24:33 PM
It has some good advice but it's tailored to hopeless shut-ins.
If it was originally posted on /b/ it was a bullseye, AMIRITE?
what's an assburger supposed to do in order to build social skills and confidence?
mebbe a gift will at least give the lady pause long enough that they can engage in conversation and level up a bit?
Quote from: Iptuous on April 28, 2010, 02:25:31 AM
what's an assburger supposed to do in order to build social skills and confidence?
mebbe a gift will at least give the lady pause long enough that they can engage in conversation and level up a bit?
Most people with "assburgers" are just lacking practice in social skillz.
exactly.
so what's the best way to do that?
upon reflection, stunning them with generosity would almost certainly creep the other person out.
what would your reaction be if an assburger came up to you and awkwardly, but frankly said that they had no social skills, and needed somebody to engage in conversation with in order to practice? (assuming they seemed genuine about that)
might something straight forward like that at least convince you to befriend them tentatively?
Quote from: Iptuous on April 28, 2010, 03:03:41 AM
exactly.
so what's the best way to do that?
upon reflection, stunning them with generosity would almost certainly creep the other person out.
what would your reaction be if an assburger came up to you and awkwardly, but frankly said that they had no social skills, and needed somebody to engage in conversation with in order to practice? (assuming they seemed genuine about that)
might something straight forward like that at least convince you to befriend them tentatively?
No, I really wouldn't want to be someone's "practice friend".
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on April 28, 2010, 02:44:52 AM
Quote from: Iptuous on April 28, 2010, 02:25:31 AM
what's an assburger supposed to do in order to build social skills and confidence?
mebbe a gift will at least give the lady pause long enough that they can engage in conversation and level up a bit?
Most people with "assburgers" are just lacking practice in social skillz.
Fuck you badge.
OH NO I HAVE OFFENDED YOU, DO YOU HAVE ASPBERGERS TOO?
Yes. I've also had 10 goddamn years of therapy to let me be a functional human being. So don't tell me its a 'lack of practice'.
So you are not, in fact, a person with self-diagnosed Aspberger's.
No, I was diagnosed by one of the shrinks when i was ten or so. (Not sure exactly when, my parents didn't explain why I was going to all the social skills classes till years later).
Then there's no reason for you to get all up in arms.
:facepalm:
I missed something apparently.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on April 28, 2010, 07:18:44 AM
Yes. I've also had 10 goddamn years of therapy to let me be a functional human being. So don't tell me its a 'lack of practice'.
so, in other words, you got lots of practice.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on April 28, 2010, 07:33:01 AM
:facepalm:
I missed something apparently.
I'm assuming by "assburgers" Badges meant people who self diagnose aspergers just cos they are afraid of talking to anyone, because they constantly got their lunch money stolen.
Quote from: Iptuous on April 28, 2010, 03:03:41 AM
exactly.
so what's the best way to do that?
upon reflection, stunning them with generosity would almost certainly creep the other person out.
what would your reaction be if an assburger came up to you and awkwardly, but frankly said that they had no social skills, and needed somebody to engage in conversation with in order to practice? (assuming they seemed genuine about that)
might something straight forward like that at least convince you to befriend them tentatively?
Step 1. Find some people
Step 2. Attempt to communicate
Step 3. Fail at communicating
Step 4. Assess failure
Step 5. Adjust communication methods
Step 6. Repeat 1-5 till you get it right.
There is no alternative to painful practice with 99% failure and 1% success.
yeah, i guess you're right.
i was just thinking that the assess failure step is the difficult part without someone to give constructive criticism.
i imagine the failure ends in 'fuck off, assburger!' most of the time, and they are unable to assess what they did wrong in order to correct it much.
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on April 28, 2010, 02:44:52 AM
Quote from: Iptuous on April 28, 2010, 02:25:31 AM
what's an assburger supposed to do in order to build social skills and confidence?
mebbe a gift will at least give the lady pause long enough that they can engage in conversation and level up a bit?
Most people with "assburgers" are just lacking practice in social skillz.
As much as I make fun of people with "assburgers", my son's best friend, who is the son of one of my best friends and who lives here on weekends, who says that I am "one of his 3 closest fathers", (I am proud to be a father to that boy!) has Aspergers, as does one of my long-term lovers' sons. This is part of the reason I can't take internet self-diagnosers seriously. Fuck them.
You could never, ever meet these kids and think they were just socially maladapted. J spends EVERY FUCKING WEEKEND with my son, who is the exact opposite of socially maladjusted. I mean, I'm his FATHER, The Enucleator is his mother, and all you have to do is come spend five minutes at my house or hers to see whether he's adequately socially exposed. Our older son is Miss I Will Kick Your Ass Fuck You Yes I Am Blonde And Stacked.
Actual Aspergers kids aren't on the net being assholes. IMO. J spends plenty of time online, but he's really thoughtful and NOT A RAGING ASSHOLE. He may not automatically pick up on people's feelings, but when you tell him, his empathy gland isn't broken. Just his antenna.
Also, there is something autism-like up with my ex and our daughter. I don't know what it is but on the suggestion of her teacher we took her to a neurologist who diagnosed her with "pervasive developmental disorder", which is very broad and covers autism spectrum disorders. She is so much like him, it's incredible. Fortunately she also seems to have have a strong sense of empathy, which he lacks.
Objectively I test into autism spectrum disorder fairly strongly, but I don't manifest it in any other way. My ex clearly has something like that going on, as does our daughter, but both compensate for it to the point of being functional. But you can't be around people like this without knowing something is different about them. Well, fuck, it was evident in LO from a very, very early age, as opposed to MO, who was a difficult baby but is clearly free from any of the heritable banes of our nerd family clusterfuck. Being around a totally normal kid like that, also, is a stark and awakening counterpoint to the weirdness of everyone else.
The thing I find interesting about the OP, is that it starts by identifying with the spag - "other people really suck, don't they?", and then halfway through turns that around into "No, actually, you probably suck more". And it's stating the obvious to say that if it hadn't included the coddling, then it would have been immediately rejected - the spag wouldn't have bothered to read it.
But that carrot/stick switcheroo is something which the materials we create often lack. Sure, we can craft a nice looking stick, but will the intended audience get that far if they're not first invested in our carrot?
Quote from: Captain Utopia on June 27, 2010, 07:24:45 PM
The thing I find interesting about the OP, is that it starts by identifying with the spag - "other people really suck, don't they?", and then halfway through turns that around into "No, actually, you probably suck more". And it's stating the obvious to say that if it hadn't included the coddling, then it would have been immediately rejected - the spag wouldn't have bothered to read it.
But that carrot/stick switcheroo is something which the materials we create often lack. Sure, we can craft a nice looking stick, but will the intended audience get that far if they're not first invested in our carrot?
I think you might just be onto something :eek: