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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: Suu on May 11, 2010, 04:51:28 PM

Title: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Suu on May 11, 2010, 04:51:28 PM
I dunno, see how much of your city it covers.

http://paulrademacher.com/oilspill/
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Remington on May 11, 2010, 04:53:54 PM
My entire county.

Granted, the slick wouldn't really spread too much on solid ground. It's a bit misleading.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Richter on May 11, 2010, 04:54:38 PM
Makes wind farms look better and better.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Remington on May 11, 2010, 05:04:04 PM
Quote from: Richter on May 11, 2010, 04:54:38 PM
Makes wind farms look better and better.
BAAAWWWWW THEY RUIN THE LANDSCAPE

BAAAAWWWW NOT IN MY BACKYARD
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 11, 2010, 06:15:27 PM
well well.
seems this thing is pretty big.


Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Richter on May 11, 2010, 06:17:09 PM
Quote from: Remington on May 11, 2010, 05:04:04 PM
Quote from: Richter on May 11, 2010, 04:54:38 PM
Makes wind farms look better and better.
BAAAWWWWW THEY RUIN THE LANDSCAPE

BAAAAWWWW NOT IN MY BACKYARD

Better than havign a nuke reactor in your backyard.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Remington on May 11, 2010, 06:26:26 PM
Quote from: Richter on May 11, 2010, 06:17:09 PM
Quote from: Remington on May 11, 2010, 05:04:04 PM
Quote from: Richter on May 11, 2010, 04:54:38 PM
Makes wind farms look better and better.
BAAAWWWWW THEY RUIN THE LANDSCAPE

BAAAAWWWW NOT IN MY BACKYARD

Better than havign a nuke reactor in your backyard.
BAAAWWWW I DON'T WANT THAT EITHER

CAN'T YOU SCIENTISTS JUST FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE POWER WITHOUT ALL OF THAT DANGEROUS GENERATING EQUIPMENT? I JUST WANT TO WATCH AMERICAN IDOL
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Lies on May 11, 2010, 06:27:43 PM
wow that's a lot of oil.
Almost covers most of my state...
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: MMIX on May 11, 2010, 06:36:12 PM
Quote from: Remington on May 11, 2010, 06:26:26 PM
Quote from: Richter on May 11, 2010, 06:17:09 PM
Quote from: Remington on May 11, 2010, 05:04:04 PM
Quote from: Richter on May 11, 2010, 04:54:38 PM
Makes wind farms look better and better.
BAAAWWWWW THEY RUIN THE LANDSCAPE

BAAAAWWWW NOT IN MY BACKYARD

Better than havign a nuke reactor in your backyard.
BAAAWWWW I DON'T WANT THAT EITHER

CAN'T YOU SCIENTISTS JUST FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE POWER WITHOUT ALL OF THAT DANGEROUS GENERATING EQUIPMENT? I JUST WANT TO WATCH AMERICAN IDOL

Yeah!!! pedalvision is the answer to American IDLE . . .  http://scienceshareware.com/bicycle-generator-faq.htm#television

also the slick is the size of North Wales . . . fuck . . .  :eek:
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 11, 2010, 06:39:36 PM
Quote from: Richter on May 11, 2010, 04:54:38 PM
Makes wind farms look better and better.

BIRD MURDERER!
        \
:troll:
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Jenne on May 11, 2010, 06:40:09 PM
...looks like it would cover most of SD.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Remington on May 11, 2010, 06:44:09 PM
Quote from: MMIX on May 11, 2010, 06:36:12 PM
Quote from: Remington on May 11, 2010, 06:26:26 PM
Quote from: Richter on May 11, 2010, 06:17:09 PM
Quote from: Remington on May 11, 2010, 05:04:04 PM
Quote from: Richter on May 11, 2010, 04:54:38 PM
Makes wind farms look better and better.
BAAAWWWWW THEY RUIN THE LANDSCAPE

BAAAAWWWW NOT IN MY BACKYARD

Better than havign a nuke reactor in your backyard.
BAAAWWWW I DON'T WANT THAT EITHER

CAN'T YOU SCIENTISTS JUST FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE POWER WITHOUT ALL OF THAT DANGEROUS GENERATING EQUIPMENT? I JUST WANT TO WATCH AMERICAN IDOL

Yeah!!! pedalvision is the answer to American IDLE . . .  http://scienceshareware.com/bicycle-generator-faq.htm#television
BAAAWWWW TOO MUCH WORK


...Yeah. Pretty much anything that isn't incredibly cheap and easy gets knocked down as "impractical".
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Richter on May 11, 2010, 06:44:52 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on May 11, 2010, 06:39:36 PM
Quote from: Richter on May 11, 2010, 04:54:38 PM
Makes wind farms look better and better.

BIRD MURDERER!
        \
:troll:


Sliced fowl from heaven?
This is a downside.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Suu on May 11, 2010, 06:57:30 PM
It covers Providence, Worcester, and Boston in one fell swoop.

It also covers the entirety of Pinellas County, FL and most of Tampa, down the coast to Port Charlotte....If this shit gets into the current and makes it down there, Tampa Bay is fucked.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Elder Iptuous on May 11, 2010, 09:46:02 PM
fuck, that's big....
wonder why it's such an odd shape?
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on May 11, 2010, 11:19:30 PM
Quote from: Remington on May 11, 2010, 05:04:04 PM
Quote from: Richter on May 11, 2010, 04:54:38 PM
Makes wind farms look better and better.
BAAAWWWWW THEY RUIN THE LANDSCAPE

BAAAAWWWW NOT IN MY BACKYARD

off-shore wind farms  :eek:
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Nast on May 11, 2010, 11:21:10 PM
Quote from: Fredyjafjallajökull on May 11, 2010, 11:19:30 PM
Quote from: Remington on May 11, 2010, 05:04:04 PM
Quote from: Richter on May 11, 2010, 04:54:38 PM
Makes wind farms look better and better.
BAAAWWWWW THEY RUIN THE LANDSCAPE

BAAAAWWWW NOT IN MY BACKYARD

off-shore wind farms  :eek:

WHY DO YOU HATE THE SKY-WHALES?
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Adios on May 11, 2010, 11:27:02 PM
Quote from: Fredyjafjallajökull on May 11, 2010, 11:19:30 PM
Quote from: Remington on May 11, 2010, 05:04:04 PM
Quote from: Richter on May 11, 2010, 04:54:38 PM
Makes wind farms look better and better.
BAAAWWWWW THEY RUIN THE LANDSCAPE

BAAAAWWWW NOT IN MY BACKYARD

off-shore wind farms  :eek:


We have wind farms in Kansas. Like the wind ever blows here.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Jasper on May 11, 2010, 11:37:39 PM
Oh...  Holy hell.

I can't be the only person here who thinks wind farms are pretty.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on May 11, 2010, 11:41:09 PM
the problem with wind farms are the windy places arent usually near where most of the population needs them
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Jasper on May 11, 2010, 11:45:33 PM
Many solutions.

If it's not windy, not sunny, no waves, no rivers, and no decent place to keep a nuclear reactor, how feasible is it really to have a city in that location at all, in the long run?
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on May 11, 2010, 11:51:17 PM
people build in strange places

anyway thats why i said OFFSHORE WIND FARM. cause so many cities w/ coastal winds
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Jasper on May 11, 2010, 11:54:17 PM
Expensive sounding.  Wind farms are somwhat affordable because you don't have to build platforms for them to float on.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on May 11, 2010, 11:58:15 PM
off shore wind farms are anchored  to the floor just like off shore oil drilling
(http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2009/04/large_wind-power.jpg)
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Jasper on May 12, 2010, 12:05:53 AM
...Interesting!

Sigmatic,
did not know that.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Nast on May 12, 2010, 03:17:56 AM
My love for you is greater
than the Deepwater Horizon oil spill
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 12, 2010, 03:21:26 AM
Quote from: Fredyjafjallajökull on May 11, 2010, 11:58:15 PM
off shore wind farms are anchored  to the floor just like off shore oil drilling
(http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2009/04/large_wind-power.jpg)

And when that irresponsible jerk in the boat hits one, it will tip over, ripping loose from the bottom, and the ocean will all drain out.

THANKS, HIPPIES!
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 12, 2010, 04:13:21 AM
the major part of that slick covers all of orlando.
orlando is really big. that shit is big.

that doesn't even count the littler part.

and if it hits the coast, not just tampa will be fucked. the whole coast will be fucked.
guess what happens if it hits the gulf stream, which moves 3 ft per second and goes all the way around the state and up the east coast.

HEY!
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Triple Zero on May 12, 2010, 10:11:41 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on May 11, 2010, 11:37:39 PM
Oh...  Holy hell.

I can't be the only person here who thinks wind farms are pretty.

No I agree they are pretty.

But only when you're driving past them on a dike or field or something.

I dunno if you ever saw one up close, but those fuckers are HUGE. Well there's several different types here, and the most popular one is gigantic. I once saw one that was being constructed or maintenanced and the triple rotor blade thing was on the ground next to the road. Only then did I realize how enormous they actually are.

The point is, if you live next to one, having a huge white thing rotating in the corner of your eye all the time* when you look/are outside. I can totally imagine it would get on my nerves in a very real but somewhat hard to pinpoint sort of way.

*I once heard that if there's no wind some models are rotated by a motor because it's better for the structure if they don't stand still too long. But there's a lot of conflicting stuff about windmills out there.



Oh, this other time, we were driving back to the city at night, passing a whole field of these things. Imagine this: A dark orangey sky (because of nearby city and of course greenhouses light pollution), looming black objects sticking out into the sky, and red lights on them (for the planes) flashing on and off. It was totally like a scene from the Matrix :)
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Jenne on May 12, 2010, 02:27:30 PM
(http://eetdnews.lbl.gov/nl22/images/palmwind002-sized.jpg)

Pretty wind farm in Palm Springs, CA
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Telarus on May 12, 2010, 04:14:34 PM
Pakini Nui Wind Farm, South Point, Hawaii

(http://renewablehawaii.com/vcmcontent/StaticFiles/Images/Articles/south-pt-wind.jpg)
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Adios on May 12, 2010, 04:16:22 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on May 12, 2010, 10:11:41 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on May 11, 2010, 11:37:39 PM
Oh...  Holy hell.

I can't be the only person here who thinks wind farms are pretty.

No I agree they are pretty.

But only when you're driving past them on a dike or field or something.

I dunno if you ever saw one up close, but those fuckers are HUGE. Well there's several different types here, and the most popular one is gigantic. I once saw one that was being constructed or maintenanced and the triple rotor blade thing was on the ground next to the road. Only then did I realize how enormous they actually are.

The point is, if you live next to one, having a huge white thing rotating in the corner of your eye all the time* when you look/are outside. I can totally imagine it would get on my nerves in a very real but somewhat hard to pinpoint sort of way.

*I once heard that if there's no wind some models are rotated by a motor because it's better for the structure if they don't stand still too long. But there's a lot of conflicting stuff about windmills out there.



Oh, this other time, we were driving back to the city at night, passing a whole field of these things. Imagine this: A dark orangey sky (because of nearby city and of course greenhouses light pollution), looming black objects sticking out into the sky, and red lights on them (for the planes) flashing on and off. It was totally like a scene from the Matrix :)


Just the 3 blades fill a flatbed tractor trailer.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Elder Iptuous on May 12, 2010, 04:26:04 PM
The blades we get going down I20 towards west TX are freaking huge.  they go down the road one blade at a time, and the flatbeds aren't big enough for them.  they have the truck with some wheels on the front, and then they have some wheels strapped to the rear end of the blade, with the blade supporting itself for the length of it.  they're at least as long as a double trailer rig...
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 12, 2010, 04:27:44 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on May 12, 2010, 04:26:04 PM
The blades we get going down I20 towards west TX are freaking huge.  they go down the road one blade at a time, and the flatbeds aren't big enough for them.  they have the truck with some wheels on the front, and then they have some wheels strapped to the rear end of the blade, with the blade supporting itself for the length of it.  they're at least as long as a double trailer rig...


Likewise here, holy shit; the new ones are fantastically huge, like some legendary creature. I can't imagine how they assemble them.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 12, 2010, 04:34:38 PM
This is a good pic of one of our newer wind farms; there's a road with a pickup truck on it for size comparison.

(http://media.oregonlive.com/environment_impact/photo/wind-turbines-boydjpg-ffb9283b8f41badd.jpg)

These are much bigger than the wind turbines I remember 15 years ago or so. I've never been near one of the newer ones.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 12, 2010, 04:44:32 PM
I would so rather see that, than this:
(http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/sep2009/20090908_powerplantfl.jpg)

They actually built really expensive neighborhoods around this thing. And like a whole community with a town center and shit. It's kind of disgusting. I don't want to look out my window at that thing belching smoke out of it's holes 24 hrs a day
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 12, 2010, 04:57:09 PM
Yeah, wind turbines are pretty cool. They remind me that I live in the future!
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Jenne on May 12, 2010, 04:59:39 PM
The pic I showed of the ones out in the So. Cali desert doesn't do it justice, either.  When you drive in and amongst them, you feel so insignificant.  It's like walking onto another planet or a scifi movie set.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Adios on May 12, 2010, 05:00:20 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on May 12, 2010, 04:57:09 PM
Yeah, wind turbines are pretty cool. They remind me that I live in the future!

Well if we continue to use the wind up so foolishly we will run out one day and have to import wind from the middle east.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Elder Iptuous on May 12, 2010, 05:01:50 PM
Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on May 12, 2010, 04:44:32 PM
I would so rather see that, than this:
(http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/sep2009/20090908_powerplantfl.jpg)

They actually built really expensive neighborhoods around this thing. And like a whole community with a town center and shit. It's kind of disgusting. I don't want to look out my window at that thing belching smoke out of it's holes 24 hrs a day

smoke?
it's just steam, right?
i've always thought the cooling towers are kind of elegant looking.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Kai on May 12, 2010, 05:06:48 PM
I love wind turbines. And photovoltaics. Much less damage to ecosystems than mining and burning fuels.

Once you get a turbine set up, it lasts as long as you maintain it. Free energy, people.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Jenne on May 12, 2010, 05:07:26 PM
We have the big boobs of San Onofre out here:

(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h183/Jenne73/san-onofre-at-night-300x186.jpg)

Featured in one of Leslie Nielson's movies, I think.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Kai on May 12, 2010, 05:11:59 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on May 12, 2010, 05:01:50 PM
Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on May 12, 2010, 04:44:32 PM
I would so rather see that, than this:
(http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/sep2009/20090908_powerplantfl.jpg)

They actually built really expensive neighborhoods around this thing. And like a whole community with a town center and shit. It's kind of disgusting. I don't want to look out my window at that thing belching smoke out of it's holes 24 hrs a day

smoke?
it's just steam, right?
i've always thought the cooling towers are kind of elegant looking.


Yeah, it's steam, and actually quite safe given the safeguards on nuclear reactors these days.

The problems are: Incredibly expensive, and dangerous waste products you can't put anywhere.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Elder Iptuous on May 12, 2010, 05:14:07 PM
Quote from: Jenne on May 12, 2010, 05:07:26 PM
We have the big boobs of San Onofre out here:
Featured in one of Leslie Nielson's movies, I think.

yeah, those aren't as pretty...

Quote from: Kai on May 12, 2010, 05:11:59 PM
Yeah, it's steam, and actually quite safe given the safeguards on nuclear reactors these days.
The problems are: Incredibly expensive, and dangerous waste products you can't put anywhere.
that's why we need a space elevator; so we can get the rods up there, and just toss them into the sun.
:)
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 12, 2010, 05:14:21 PM
Quote from: Kai on May 12, 2010, 05:11:59 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on May 12, 2010, 05:01:50 PM
Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on May 12, 2010, 04:44:32 PM
I would so rather see that, than this:
(http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/sep2009/20090908_powerplantfl.jpg)

They actually built really expensive neighborhoods around this thing. And like a whole community with a town center and shit. It's kind of disgusting. I don't want to look out my window at that thing belching smoke out of it's holes 24 hrs a day

smoke?
it's just steam, right?
i've always thought the cooling towers are kind of elegant looking.


Yeah, it's steam, and actually quite safe given the safeguards on nuclear reactors these days.

The problems are: Incredibly expensive, and dangerous waste products you can't put anywhere.

Sure you can put them somewhere.  I have a foolproof solution for this.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 12, 2010, 05:15:30 PM
Quote from: Kai on May 12, 2010, 05:06:48 PM
I love wind turbines. And photovoltaics. Much less damage to ecosystems than mining and burning fuels.

Once you get a turbine set up, it lasts as long as you maintain it. Free energy, people.

Bosh.  In Tucson, we burn whatever we can cram in the boilers.

It only makes a third of the city smell like a burning tire.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 12, 2010, 05:15:59 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on May 12, 2010, 05:01:50 PM
Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on May 12, 2010, 04:44:32 PM
I would so rather see that, than this:
(http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/sep2009/20090908_powerplantfl.jpg)

They actually built really expensive neighborhoods around this thing. And like a whole community with a town center and shit. It's kind of disgusting. I don't want to look out my window at that thing belching smoke out of it's holes 24 hrs a day

smoke?
it's just steam, right?
i've always thought the cooling towers are kind of elegant looking.


Looks like a coal plant, in which case yes, the stacks on the right are belching smoke.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 12, 2010, 05:18:25 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on May 12, 2010, 05:15:59 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on May 12, 2010, 05:01:50 PM
Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on May 12, 2010, 04:44:32 PM
I would so rather see that, than this:
(http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/sep2009/20090908_powerplantfl.jpg)

They actually built really expensive neighborhoods around this thing. And like a whole community with a town center and shit. It's kind of disgusting. I don't want to look out my window at that thing belching smoke out of it's holes 24 hrs a day

smoke?
it's just steam, right?
i've always thought the cooling towers are kind of elegant looking.


Looks like a coal plant, in which case yes, the stacks on the right are belching smoke.

We have NO SCRUBBERS OR BAGHOUSES on our "burn all" plant.  It's older than my dad, and grandfathered against the EPA to hell and gone.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Elder Iptuous on May 12, 2010, 05:20:22 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on May 12, 2010, 05:15:59 PM
Looks like a coal plant, in which case yes, the stacks on the right are belching smoke.

i was thinking that those type of cooling towers were only on nuke plants, but quick gooogling shows that i'm wrong....
i guess if it was nuke, there wouldn't be the stacks on the right at all, huh?
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 12, 2010, 05:23:24 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on May 12, 2010, 05:20:22 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on May 12, 2010, 05:15:59 PM
Looks like a coal plant, in which case yes, the stacks on the right are belching smoke.

i was thinking that those type of cooling towers were only on nuke plants, but quick gooogling shows that i'm wrong....
i guess if it was nuke, there wouldn't be the stacks on the right at all, huh?


Correct, and the cooling towers would be quite a bit larger.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 12, 2010, 05:23:54 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 12, 2010, 05:18:25 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on May 12, 2010, 05:15:59 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on May 12, 2010, 05:01:50 PM
Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on May 12, 2010, 04:44:32 PM
I would so rather see that, than this:
(http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/sep2009/20090908_powerplantfl.jpg)

They actually built really expensive neighborhoods around this thing. And like a whole community with a town center and shit. It's kind of disgusting. I don't want to look out my window at that thing belching smoke out of it's holes 24 hrs a day

smoke?
it's just steam, right?
i've always thought the cooling towers are kind of elegant looking.


Looks like a coal plant, in which case yes, the stacks on the right are belching smoke.

We have NO SCRUBBERS OR BAGHOUSES on our "burn all" plant.  It's older than my dad, and grandfathered against the EPA to hell and gone.

:x
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 12, 2010, 05:29:56 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on May 12, 2010, 05:23:54 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 12, 2010, 05:18:25 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on May 12, 2010, 05:15:59 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on May 12, 2010, 05:01:50 PM
Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on May 12, 2010, 04:44:32 PM
I would so rather see that, than this:
(http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/sep2009/20090908_powerplantfl.jpg)

They actually built really expensive neighborhoods around this thing. And like a whole community with a town center and shit. It's kind of disgusting. I don't want to look out my window at that thing belching smoke out of it's holes 24 hrs a day

smoke?
it's just steam, right?
i've always thought the cooling towers are kind of elegant looking.


Looks like a coal plant, in which case yes, the stacks on the right are belching smoke.

We have NO SCRUBBERS OR BAGHOUSES on our "burn all" plant.  It's older than my dad, and grandfathered against the EPA to hell and gone.

:x


Half a million bucks, and I could cut their emissions in half.

2 million bucks, and you'd never smell the plant, even when they're shoveling animal corpses through it.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Jenne on May 12, 2010, 05:30:23 PM
...nobody's mentioning mah San Onofre boobs... :(
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 12, 2010, 05:33:38 PM
Quote from: Jenne on May 12, 2010, 05:30:23 PM
...nobody's mentioning mah San Onofre boobs... :(

You got a hotlinking error.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Jenne on May 12, 2010, 05:35:59 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 12, 2010, 05:33:38 PM
Quote from: Jenne on May 12, 2010, 05:30:23 PM
...nobody's mentioning mah San Onofre boobs... :(

You got a hotlinking error.


Ah.  I saw it, that's why I thought it was ok, will go fix.   

ETA: IS FIX
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 12, 2010, 05:37:10 PM
Quote from: Kai on May 12, 2010, 05:11:59 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on May 12, 2010, 05:01:50 PM
Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on May 12, 2010, 04:44:32 PM
I would so rather see that, than this:
(http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/sep2009/20090908_powerplantfl.jpg)

They actually built really expensive neighborhoods around this thing. And like a whole community with a town center and shit. It's kind of disgusting. I don't want to look out my window at that thing belching smoke out of it's holes 24 hrs a day

smoke?
it's just steam, right?
i've always thought the cooling towers are kind of elegant looking.


Yeah, it's steam, and actually quite safe given the safeguards on nuclear reactors these days.

The problems are: Incredibly expensive, and dangerous waste products you can't put anywhere.

Sure it's steam. Brown and grey steam. I can see this thing every day when I drive to work. It's an eyesore. And this plant has had the EPA down it's throats forever.
And whatever is chuggin out of it's pipes is NOT clean or safe. Before 9-11 we could drive right up to the thing. I got a bunch of pics when I was in HS.
Deer drinking out of the water around the thing made me sad. (man made river/pond thing)
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Elder Iptuous on May 12, 2010, 05:50:12 PM
Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on May 12, 2010, 05:37:10 PM
Deer drinking out of the water around the thing made me sad. (man made river/pond thing)

don't the ponds that the hot water goes into have some strange bacteria/algae in it due to the elevated temperatures?
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 12, 2010, 05:52:18 PM
Most likely, even worse in this swamp I'm sure. You leave a cup of water outside in this heat for a day and you've grown a new civilization.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 12, 2010, 05:54:18 PM
Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on May 12, 2010, 05:52:18 PM
Most likely, even worse in this swamp I'm sure. You leave a cup of water outside in this heat for a day and you've grown a new civilization.

That blows even worse than here.  Here, you leave a cup of water outside for a day, and you have a dry, brittle, faded cup.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Kai on May 12, 2010, 06:02:58 PM
Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on May 12, 2010, 05:37:10 PM
Quote from: Kai on May 12, 2010, 05:11:59 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on May 12, 2010, 05:01:50 PM
Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on May 12, 2010, 04:44:32 PM
I would so rather see that, than this:
(http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/sep2009/20090908_powerplantfl.jpg)

They actually built really expensive neighborhoods around this thing. And like a whole community with a town center and shit. It's kind of disgusting. I don't want to look out my window at that thing belching smoke out of it's holes 24 hrs a day

smoke?
it's just steam, right?
i've always thought the cooling towers are kind of elegant looking.


Yeah, it's steam, and actually quite safe given the safeguards on nuclear reactors these days.

The problems are: Incredibly expensive, and dangerous waste products you can't put anywhere.

Sure it's steam. Brown and grey steam. I can see this thing every day when I drive to work. It's an eyesore. And this plant has had the EPA down it's throats forever.
And whatever is chuggin out of it's pipes is NOT clean or safe. Before 9-11 we could drive right up to the thing. I got a bunch of pics when I was in HS.
Deer drinking out of the water around the thing made me sad. (man made river/pond thing)

It' was my mistake. The towers on the left are for cooling steam. The towers on the right are letting out smoke.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: LMNO on May 12, 2010, 06:04:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 12, 2010, 05:14:21 PM
Quote from: Kai on May 12, 2010, 05:11:59 PM
Yeah, it's steam, and actually quite safe given the safeguards on nuclear reactors these days.

The problems are: Incredibly expensive, and dangerous waste products you can't put anywhere.

Sure you can put them somewhere.  I have a foolproof solution for this.



GO AHEAD!  ASK HIM HOW!
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 12, 2010, 06:06:00 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 12, 2010, 06:04:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 12, 2010, 05:14:21 PM
Quote from: Kai on May 12, 2010, 05:11:59 PM
Yeah, it's steam, and actually quite safe given the safeguards on nuclear reactors these days.

The problems are: Incredibly expensive, and dangerous waste products you can't put anywhere.

Sure you can put them somewhere.  I have a foolproof solution for this.



GO AHEAD!  ASK HIM HOW!

I honestly didn't expect anyone to even noticed I'd posted that.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Jasper on May 12, 2010, 06:07:52 PM
I'm fond of the Marianas Trench as a place to keep it.  Theorized to have very very minimal impact, considering they'll probably just fall in between the tectonic plates like the mother of all pennies lost between the seat cushions.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: LMNO on May 12, 2010, 06:09:50 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 12, 2010, 06:06:00 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 12, 2010, 06:04:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 12, 2010, 05:14:21 PM
Quote from: Kai on May 12, 2010, 05:11:59 PM
Yeah, it's steam, and actually quite safe given the safeguards on nuclear reactors these days.

The problems are: Incredibly expensive, and dangerous waste products you can't put anywhere.

Sure you can put them somewhere.  I have a foolproof solution for this.



GO AHEAD!  ASK HIM HOW!

I honestly didn't expect anyone to even noticed I'd posted that.

I CAN HAZ REEDIN COMP'RHENSHUN.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 12, 2010, 06:11:05 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on May 12, 2010, 06:07:52 PM
I'm fond of the Marianas Trench as a place to keep it.  Theorized to have very very minimal impact, considering they'll probably just fall in between the tectonic plates like the mother of all pennies lost between the seat cushions.

Or why not just mix it with sand, fuse it into glass blocks, and store it in the desert in lead-lined shacks?  There's nothing to leak, and if you want the hot shit back (remember, if it's still radioactive, it's still got useful energy in it), you just crush the glass and centerfuge out the the stuff you want, then fuse it back into glass blocks.

Problem #1:  I don't own any congressmen.

Problem #2:  The NRC won't approve anything that would put it out of business.

Problem #3:  The hippies would be depressed.  One less thing to bitch about.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Telarus on May 12, 2010, 06:25:02 PM
Anyone catch that the Russians have suggested controlled nuclear explosion to collapse and cap the oil leak....

Apparently they've tried it many times and it only failed to work once.....            :x
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Elder Iptuous on May 12, 2010, 06:25:30 PM
don't they keep them in giant pools of water to keep them cool?
would the glass build up heat and melt?
it just seems like they would have gone for a dry storage method if there was anything they could've figured out originally...
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Jasper on May 12, 2010, 06:28:50 PM
Quote from: Telarus on May 12, 2010, 06:25:02 PM
Anyone catch that the Russians have suggested controlled nuclear explosion to collapse and cap the oil leak....

Apparently they've tried it many times and it only failed to work once.....            :x

I'm actually more okay with that than just letting the oil spread to the rest of the ocean.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Vene on May 12, 2010, 06:37:31 PM
The spill is fucking gigantic, It's big enough that if it was over here it would stretch from Duluth, cover my entire country, and still reach the Twin Cities. This both terrifies and impresses me.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 12, 2010, 06:38:25 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 12, 2010, 06:06:00 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 12, 2010, 06:04:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 12, 2010, 05:14:21 PM
Quote from: Kai on May 12, 2010, 05:11:59 PM
Yeah, it's steam, and actually quite safe given the safeguards on nuclear reactors these days.

The problems are: Incredibly expensive, and dangerous waste products you can't put anywhere.

Sure you can put them somewhere.  I have a foolproof solution for this.



GO AHEAD!  ASK HIM HOW!

I honestly didn't expect anyone to even noticed I'd posted that.

I noticed, I was skeered so I let it go.

Quote from: Telarus on May 12, 2010, 06:25:02 PM
Anyone catch that the Russians have suggested controlled nuclear explosion to collapse and cap the oil leak....

Apparently they've tried it many times and it only failed to work once.....            :x

They're probably right. Except I would only trust THEM to do it and not any of our spags cause they're smarter than us. Do NOT disagree with me. I will punch you in the taint!
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Jenne on May 12, 2010, 06:39:17 PM
Quote from: Telarus on May 12, 2010, 06:25:02 PM
Anyone catch that the Russians have suggested controlled nuclear explosion to collapse and cap the oil leak....

Apparently they've tried it many times and it only failed to work once.....            :x




O GOOD GOD. :x is right.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Jasper on May 12, 2010, 06:41:29 PM
So does that mean Russia has detonated "many" devices, and it never made news?

Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 12, 2010, 06:43:23 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on May 12, 2010, 06:25:30 PM
don't they keep them in giant pools of water to keep them cool?
would the glass build up heat and melt?
it just seems like they would have gone for a dry storage method if there was anything they could've figured out originally...


Not if you kept the quantities of material in the glass blocks small enough and kept the blocks far enough apart.

And "they" lose their job if they come up with a workable solution.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Vene on May 12, 2010, 06:44:35 PM
Personally, I suggest we destroy nuclear waste with nuclear weaponry. Fighting fire with fire and all that.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 12, 2010, 06:45:48 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on May 12, 2010, 06:41:29 PM
So does that mean Russia has detonated "many" devices, and it never made news?



Uh, yeah.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Jasper on May 12, 2010, 06:48:15 PM
Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on May 12, 2010, 06:45:48 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on May 12, 2010, 06:41:29 PM
So does that mean Russia has detonated "many" devices, and it never made news?



Uh, yeah.


Awesome.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Jasper on May 12, 2010, 06:50:08 PM
Also, what is meant by "controlled" nuclear explosions?  You can't exactly tell the bomb what shape to explode in.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 12, 2010, 06:55:34 PM
controlled in that they place the explosion in a specific spot and control how big it will be.
non controlled is just dropping a bomb somewhere
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 12, 2010, 07:09:06 PM
Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on May 12, 2010, 06:55:34 PM

non controlled is just dropping a bomb somewhere

And is way more awesome.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Nast on May 12, 2010, 07:17:35 PM
I think the worst thing I ever ate was a Burger King burger. It was so...gummy.

Other than that, I had sweet and salty dried squid, which wasn't very nice at all. But most seafood doesn't do it for me anyway.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 12, 2010, 07:23:50 PM
Quote from: Nast on May 12, 2010, 07:17:35 PM
I think the worst thing I ever ate was a Burger King burger. It was so...gummy.

Other than that, I had sweet and salty dried squid, which wasn't very nice at all. But most seafood doesn't do it for me anyway.

I like turtles
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Adios on May 12, 2010, 07:27:42 PM
Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on May 12, 2010, 07:23:50 PM
Quote from: Nast on May 12, 2010, 07:17:35 PM
I think the worst thing I ever ate was a Burger King burger. It was so...gummy.

Other than that, I had sweet and salty dried squid, which wasn't very nice at all. But most seafood doesn't do it for me anyway.

I like turtles

Two words.

FROG LEGS.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 12, 2010, 07:28:03 PM
Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on May 12, 2010, 07:23:50 PM
Quote from: Nast on May 12, 2010, 07:17:35 PM
I think the worst thing I ever ate was a Burger King burger. It was so...gummy.

Other than that, I had sweet and salty dried squid, which wasn't very nice at all. But most seafood doesn't do it for me anyway.

I like turtles

Squid, octopus, shellfish, eels, too.

and sushi.  LOVES ME SOME SUSHI.
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Jasper on May 12, 2010, 08:15:24 PM
I like turtles. :)
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 12, 2010, 09:48:39 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on May 12, 2010, 08:15:24 PM
I like turtles. :)
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(http://www.productwiki.com/upload/images/i_like_turtles.jpg)
Title: Re: So how big is the oil spill anyway?
Post by: Jasper on May 12, 2010, 09:52:25 PM
That really needs to be an emoticon.  :lol:

It's perfect for when someone keeps stating their case in the same manner.