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Title: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Dimocritus on May 24, 2010, 07:06:31 AM
Uggh. LOST series finale was a LETDOWN! I swore of TV for a reason. This is what I get for giving it a chance. That's it. No following TV series' for me ever again. Dissapointing...
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Iason Ouabache on May 24, 2010, 07:09:53 AM
I've never watched a single episode of Lost. Never seen more than 5 minutes of it, I think. I'm going to take this opportunity to point and laugh at all the people who wasted their time on that series.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: the last yatto on May 24, 2010, 07:11:28 AM
11:12...
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Dimocritus on May 24, 2010, 07:21:40 AM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on May 24, 2010, 07:09:53 AM
I've never watched a single episode of Lost. Never seen more than 5 minutes of it, I think. I'm going to take this opportunity to point and laugh at all the people who wasted their time on that series.

Wish I could say the same. I KNEW the story was too complicated for a satisfying ending, but I just HAD to see for myself...
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: the last yatto on May 24, 2010, 07:36:04 AM
it did feel like a clip show, but it had a message
I think the alt endings that Jimmy will show will have more UNF
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Dysnomia on May 24, 2010, 08:01:55 AM
It seemed like this episode was like a "fuck it, the show's over, WRITING IN ONE LINERS!" and "LETS BE SUPER EPIC YAYYYYYY!" writing clusterfuck.

However, Charlie/Claire, and Vincent laying next to Jack made me cry.  :cry:
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: the last yatto on May 24, 2010, 08:08:38 AM
dont go chasing waterfalls (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NnzChrd0S4)
GO JIMMY! :D

Quote from: BLARFINGARF on May 24, 2010, 08:01:55 AM
Claire, and Vincent laying next to Jack made me cry.  :cry:
:cry:
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: AFK on May 24, 2010, 10:14:51 AM
So, the ending was basically a rip off of the Newhart show.  Where it is revealed that entire series has been one big dream.  So all of the flash sideways deals were just part of one big "dream" all of the dead Losties were having.  At least that is my interpretation.  And the plain wreckage they showed during the credits.  Whas that supposed to be the Oceanic flight or the plane that Lapidus and crew were attempting to get off the island?

Yeah, it was a little disappointing and seemed to be a bit of a cop out the way they ended the whole thing.   
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: NWC on May 24, 2010, 10:34:49 AM
I keep seeing all this lost shit on facebook. Seeing as it's a series finale, how long has it been going on?

I heard about it for the first time a couple weeks ago, when I was looking for information on John Locke(the English empiricist) and the first thing that came up was a guy from a TV show named John Locke. That's kinda fucked up.

Either way I'm glad it's dead now.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Faust on May 24, 2010, 10:56:51 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on May 24, 2010, 10:14:51 AM
So, the ending was basically a rip off of the Newhart show.  Where it is revealed that entire series has been one big dream.  So all of the flash sideways deals were just part of one big "dream" all of the dead Losties were having.  At least that is my interpretation.  And the plain wreckage they showed during the credits.  Whas that supposed to be the Oceanic flight or the plane that Lapidus and crew were attempting to get off the island?

Yeah, it was a little disappointing and seemed to be a bit of a cop out the way they ended the whole thing.   

I heard it was explained with time travel magic parallel dimensions. I was laughing my ass off at how dumb the ending sounded, and the fact that some people watched this show to the end.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: AFK on May 24, 2010, 01:01:48 PM
It's just like the X-Files.  They had this great mythic story Arc going in X-Files for a number of seasons, and then, they fucked it all up in the last two seasons.  Granted part of that was Duchovny's fault for bailing for greener pastures.  I'll admit, I was on the Lost ride for the past 6 years.  Though, I don't watch a lot of other TV so I don't feel like I vested too much into it.  Nevertheless, the ending was like math homework.  Where the student gets the answer from the back of the book, and then doesn't show his work. 
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: LMNO on May 24, 2010, 01:15:55 PM
So... They really ended it with "and then I woke up"?
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: AFK on May 24, 2010, 01:45:40 PM
Well.  Kinda. 

Spoiler warning and such:

Basically, Jack shows up at this funeral home where the other Losties have been gathering, and he thinks its the funeral for his Dad as the airline finally located and shipped his father's coffin.  But he is told to enter in the back where he sees the coffin.  He touches the coffin and has flashes of the Island universe.  Opens the coffin, and its empty, and then there is pops, standing, seemingly alive.  That's Jack's dad pretty much tells Jack that they are both dead and so isn't everyone else in the funeral home.  And he also remarks that they aren't in any "now".  It seems clear that at a minimum he was saying that the parallel universe off the island was not real and was simply the souls of the Losties wandering around in some kind of purgatory.  What isn't clear, to me anyway, is if the whole damned thing was purgatory.  That they all pretty much died when the plane crashed in the first episode and were caught in this tropical purgatory. 

If that is the case, it's a pretty cheap way to end it.  Basically saying the whole 6 seasons were never real, but basically one big long trudge towards the light at the end of the tunnel.  But I'm not sure and it was vague in that typical Lost-fashion. 

Oh, and the real kicker was when Jack's father opens the doors to the church and this big white light shines through.  Big cheese factor right there. 
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Cramulus on May 24, 2010, 02:28:03 PM
oh is it over?

I stopped watching after the first season when I realized I was only hanging on in hopes that people would people die.

How did you put up with those irritating characters for six years?




I keep screwing things up for no reason
                                               \
(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/lostpedia/images/3/30/1x03_Kate.png) 


Hey there I'm the protagonist, have any protagonistic things for me to do?
                             /
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_3eWy4LP7OSY/SAljdfVqE2I/AAAAAAAAAV4/34dJ4yC7Ji0/s320/jack1.jpg)


Hi guys, thank you for watching lost. The real twist at the end of the series is that the whole thing was written by one of Enki's Markov chain bots.
                               \
(http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2009/01/29/jj_abrams.jpg)
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on May 24, 2010, 02:36:22 PM
I never watched more than 2 episodes and now I know how its ending I don't need to!
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Suu on May 24, 2010, 02:39:49 PM
You are all totally wrong. Hurley ate everyone. This is why he stayed fat even when stranded on the damn island. Duh!


-Suu
Thought it was retarded from the first episode.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: AFK on May 24, 2010, 03:04:00 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 24, 2010, 02:28:03 PM
oh is it over?

I stopped watching after the first season when I realized I was only hanging on in hopes that people would people die.

How did you put up with those irritating characters for six years?




I keep screwing things up for no reason
                                               \
(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/lostpedia/images/3/30/1x03_Kate.png) 


Hey there I'm the protagonist, have any protagonistic things for me to do?
                             /
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_3eWy4LP7OSY/SAljdfVqE2I/AAAAAAAAAV4/34dJ4yC7Ji0/s320/jack1.jpg)


Hi guys, thank you for watching lost. The real twist at the end of the series is that the whole thing was written by one of Enki's Markov chain bots.
                               \
(http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2009/01/29/jj_abrams.jpg)

Actually, there were a lot of interesting characters, IMO, outside of Jack and Kate.  Benamin Linus for one.  Daniel Faraday was another interesting character.  Desmond Hume, though they put that poor bastard through the wringer any chance they got.  I also liked Mr. Eko and thought they killed him off too soon.  I still think it was a pretty good show, despite the somewhat disappointing resolution.  And I also have to give it some kudos for sucking a conventional, network audience into a show that had a hefty amount of sci-fi and philosophy.  In a sea of crime dramas, legal dramas, and hospital dramas, it made its mark. 
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Cramulus on May 24, 2010, 03:10:16 PM
true, I gotta confess I had a soft spot for Locke, Hurley, and Sawyer, who only seemed to exist to make others miserable. I only watched the first season though, so I don't know what happened with them after that.

I do like Weirdness on mainstream TV, I'll give it that.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on May 24, 2010, 04:33:48 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on May 24, 2010, 01:45:40 PM
Well.  Kinda. 

Spoiler warning and such:

Basically, Jack shows up at this funeral home where the other Losties have been gathering, and he thinks its the funeral for his Dad as the airline finally located and shipped his father's coffin.  But he is told to enter in the back where he sees the coffin.  He touches the coffin and has flashes of the Island universe.  Opens the coffin, and its empty, and then there is pops, standing, seemingly alive.  That's Jack's dad pretty much tells Jack that they are both dead and so isn't everyone else in the funeral home.  And he also remarks that they aren't in any "now".  It seems clear that at a minimum he was saying that the parallel universe off the island was not real and was simply the souls of the Losties wandering around in some kind of purgatory.  What isn't clear, to me anyway, is if the whole damned thing was purgatory.  That they all pretty much died when the plane crashed in the first episode and were caught in this tropical purgatory. 

If that is the case, it's a pretty cheap way to end it.  Basically saying the whole 6 seasons were never real, but basically one big long trudge towards the light at the end of the tunnel.  But I'm not sure and it was vague in that typical Lost-fashion. 

Oh, and the real kicker was when Jack's father opens the doors to the church and this big white light shines through.  Big cheese factor right there. 

I got the sense that they were trying to merge the two universes- that most of them had died in the first one, but were still alive in the side ways one. Jack saying that he had died had more to do with the closing scene- Sideways Jack realizes that his original self was killed by the smoke monster in Locke form. I think that part of what makes me think that the sideways Losties were trying to restore something is the conversation between sideways Hurley and sideways Ben were talking outside the funeral home, and Ben tells Hurley that he was a great leader. Since is only shown being the leader for a few scenes, he doesn't have anyway to show how he was great. I think that the plane wreckage was not Lapidus'

I did get a kick out of Rose and Bernard in this last season, basically telling the other characters to leave them alone because they don't want to be involved in their drama and crazy adventures. A little bit of self deprecating humor.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Dimocritus on May 24, 2010, 04:52:43 PM
At least the score was halfway decent... Repetitive, but it worked.

I'm just ticked because, from a writers standpoint, they did a good job of weaving an intricate tale and connecting dots, and I just had high hopes for an ending that followed the same standards. Oh well. Fuck network television...
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on May 24, 2010, 05:49:23 PM
Quote from: dimo on May 24, 2010, 04:52:43 PM
At least the score was halfway decent... Repetitive, but it worked.

I'm just ticked because, from a writers standpoint, they did a good job of weaving an intricate tale and connecting dots, and I just had high hopes for an ending that followed the same standards. Oh well. Fuck network television...

Yeah I wanted more out of it too. Especially since it was 2 and a half hours long.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: AFK on May 24, 2010, 05:52:30 PM
Too many goddamn commercials!   :argh!:

Couldn't they have got Target to shell out some extra dough and just run their commercials instead of having the show so damned chopped up?  2 1/2 hours sounds nice until you realize that probably a good 30 minutes of it is ads.  The hard core Lost fans watching this thing don't give a fuck about where they can get surf and turf or the latest death trap on wheels from Toyota.  Just give us the fucking show!
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on May 24, 2010, 06:19:53 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on May 24, 2010, 05:52:30 PM
Too many goddamn commercials!   :argh!:

Couldn't they have got Target to shell out some extra dough and just run their commercials instead of having the show so damned chopped up?  2 1/2 hours sounds nice until you realize that probably a good 30 minutes of it is ads.  The hard core Lost fans watching this thing don't give a fuck about where they can get surf and turf or the latest death trap on wheels from Toyota.  Just give us the fucking show!

True, though I did like the Target one for computer keyboards.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: LaughingOtter on May 24, 2010, 06:24:06 PM
Either that or they used what was swept up off the floor of the set of The Prisoner. Goddess, what a rollercoaster ride into a mountain of shit THAT was!
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Iason Ouabache on May 24, 2010, 06:24:11 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 24, 2010, 02:28:03 PM
Hi guys, thank you for watching lost. The real twist at the end of the series is that the whole thing was written by one of Enki's Markov chain bots.
                               \
(http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2009/01/29/jj_abrams.jpg)

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: Makes about as much sense as anything else.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Freeky on May 24, 2010, 06:27:16 PM
I'm just gonna post in this thread to watch everyone complain about the shitty ending of a tv show.  :lol:
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Telarus on May 24, 2010, 06:36:36 PM
I'm glad it's over and had a 'real ending' (seriously, most cable tv shows just don't end, don't have an end in mind, and don't think about it until they're sure that there won't be another season).

I was disappointed by how vague the ending was. I think that was the most disappointing part, I wanted there to be more of a 'reveal'.

This is what I wanted to see happen (and was my hypothesis since last week):

Jack 'fixes' Locke in surgery, but it's revealed that if Jack wants to save all his friends in the side-ways universe then he and Locke have to stay on the island forever (as the light/dark duality). But when they finally merge the universes it turns out that Faraday has figured out a way for Locke to reassert his personality over the smoke monster's (something something something about all the dead people on the island who didn't make it to the sideways universe).
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: AFK on May 24, 2010, 06:46:17 PM
When the creators first announced the deal to end the show in 6 seasons, and that they knew what the final scene was going to be, the scene I imagined was different than what happened.  I figured it would be some kind of reprisal of a scene we've already, um, seen.  But instead of the close up of Jack's eye, I was imagining the scene between Jacob and MIB as played out by Jack and Locke.  With Locke uttering the phrase, "you know how much I want to kill you" but they are bound by the same rules that Jacob and MIB were bound by.  And then, on the horizon, you see a boat coming in.  A sort of "here we go again" ending.  I like my ending better than what actually happened. 
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Dimocritus on May 24, 2010, 06:57:04 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on May 24, 2010, 06:19:53 PM
True, though I did like the Target one for computer keyboards.

Yes, keyboards for $23.00.

Also, they sat at table 23. I Lo5'd a few things, but I can't remember them all.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: AFK on May 24, 2010, 06:58:50 PM
Hurley said dude 23 times. 
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Dimocritus on May 24, 2010, 07:00:36 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on May 24, 2010, 06:58:50 PM
Hurley said dude 23 times. 

:lulz:  :fnord:
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Cramulus on May 24, 2010, 07:05:02 PM
http://anthonyking.tumblr.com/post/628602231/pitching-lost

http://www.chooseyourownlost.com/
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Juana on May 24, 2010, 07:20:18 PM
 :lulz:

I watched a couple episodes in the first season, entirely because Sayid is hot. Stopped after that. I thought it was getting progressively more retarded as things went on. Didn't watch the last episode.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Dimocritus on May 24, 2010, 07:27:57 PM
Quote from: Hover Cat on May 24, 2010, 07:20:18 PM
:lulz:

I watched a couple episodes in the first season, entirely because Sayid is hot. Stopped after that. I thought it was getting progressively more retarded as things went on. Didn't watch the last episode.

Ha. I didn't realize you were a girl, I got confused reading that the first time. oops.  :oops:
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Juana on May 24, 2010, 07:29:58 PM
Yep. Most definitely female.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: the last yatto on May 24, 2010, 08:33:14 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on May 24, 2010, 04:33:48 PM
I did get a kick out of Rose and Bernard in this last season, basically telling the other characters to leave them alone because they don't want to be involved in their drama and crazy adventures. A little bit of self deprecating humor.
Almost like they were filling in for the outside element.
as it felt kinda like Horus, Jacob's Cabin, outsiders who didnt really care about anything but them.

Their random meeting, during season what three?, almost seemed staged to the point that someone brought them together. Sure the knight could have been wardening and happen to be in the right place at the right time.

Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: the last yatto on May 24, 2010, 08:47:14 PM
i think UnLocke disappeared the moment Desmond opened the bottle, now as a mortal Locke was still marked thus had a duel with Jack to settle the whole Light and Dark. Borrowing a page from the Scorpion king with two mortal champions fighting.

Jacob, aka vincent as some believe, knew this outcome all along and had to...
basically try and find a way to kill his brother, which included using the events of Sayid and Ben
that Esau, aka MIB, had hoped would allow him to escape.


Faraday has figured out a way for Locke...
Are you talking about jughead or the concert?
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: LMNO on May 24, 2010, 08:50:11 PM
Quote from: Pēleus on May 24, 2010, 08:47:14 PM
i think UnLocke disappeared the moment Desmond opened the bottle, now as a mortal Locke as still been marked thus had a duel with Jack to settle the whole Light and Dark. Borrowing a page from the Scorpion king with two mortal champions fighting.

Jacob, aka vincent as some believe, knew this outcome all along and had to basically was trying to find a way to kill his brother, which included using the events of Sayid and Ben that Esau, aka MIB, had hoped would allow him to escape.


Faraday has figured out a way for Locke...
wait are you talking about jughead or the concert?


Ok, the above quote justifies me never watching that show, ever.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on May 24, 2010, 08:50:18 PM
They should make a couple of TV movies to answer more questions. They can be called "Lost: The Hurley Years" The remaining survivors could have an annual barbecue reunion with Hurley as the host at Dharmaville, since Hurley changed it so people can go back and forth from the Island. Hell, he could open up a beach resort for a mystery tour, with hillarity to ensue. Since he can see dead people he can invite Eko, Charlie, Juliet and Jack too.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: the last yatto on May 24, 2010, 08:54:14 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 24, 2010, 08:50:11 PM
Ok, the above quote justifies me never watching that show, ever.

then you wouldnt want to see any of the Alternate endings
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyKyjeRodd4
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Bruno on May 24, 2010, 08:55:07 PM
It's like the ending of Battlestar Galactica and Contact combined!

We finally get to see the alien, and it's his damn father, and also they're all angels!!!
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: the last yatto on May 24, 2010, 09:06:59 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on May 24, 2010, 08:50:18 PM
They should make a couple of TV movies to answer more questions.

usually they include deleted scenes on the dvds
Seeing a dead Ben in the desert and seeing a Desmond in a coffin (instead of Locke) explained a few things to me
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: -Kel- on May 24, 2010, 09:07:27 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on May 24, 2010, 05:52:30 PM
Too many goddamn commercials!   :argh!:

Couldn't they have got Target to shell out some extra dough and just run their commercials instead of having the show so damned chopped up?  2 1/2 hours sounds nice until you realize that probably a good 30 minutes of it is ads.  The hard core Lost fans watching this thing don't give a fuck about where they can get surf and turf or the latest death trap on wheels from Toyota.  Just give us the fucking show!

at least target made commericals especially for the audience of the show. i was laughing my ass off at them.

but...imo.....

If you haven't seen the ending of Lost, stop reading now. (if you care)


Listen carefully to the dialog between Jack and his dad. Everyone there died where they normally died. Jin, Sung & Sajid on the submarine, Juliette in the hole, Kate at some unrevealed point in the future. Jack's father said they were all there because "there is no now, here", meaning that anyone who died in the past or the future would share the same space there.

Their time on the island was real, the island was real. What they were saying is that the alternate timeline of the 6th season actually begins the moment jack dies at the end. The alternate timeline was his journey to accept death. Its point was to make him remember, to see that his time on the island with those people, was the most important part of his life.

So there you have it. It all really happened, and jack died at the end.

That's just how I and the Mr. viewed it.


Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: -Kel- on May 24, 2010, 09:08:11 PM
oh also, watch this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3LBdruvUc0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3LBdruvUc0)

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

fixed
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: the last yatto on May 24, 2010, 09:20:18 PM
Quote from: dimo on May 24, 2010, 07:00:36 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on May 24, 2010, 06:58:50 PM
Hurley said dude 23 times. 

:lulz:  :fnord:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAPKB6-DYOY :D
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: the last yatto on May 24, 2010, 09:24:53 PM
Quote from: -Kel- on May 24, 2010, 09:08:11 PM
fixed

or not
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: -Kel- on May 24, 2010, 09:28:52 PM
Quote from: Pēleus on May 24, 2010, 09:24:53 PM
Quote from: -Kel- on May 24, 2010, 09:08:11 PM
fixed

or not

wtf!!!

bastards!!
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: -Kel- on May 24, 2010, 09:30:37 PM
here we go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di3w1yV4Ehg&feature=fvsr (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di3w1yV4Ehg&feature=fvsr)
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Dimocritus on May 24, 2010, 09:35:27 PM
Quote from: -Kel- on May 24, 2010, 09:30:37 PM
here we go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di3w1yV4Ehg&feature=fvsr (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di3w1yV4Ehg&feature=fvsr)

I'll admit, I lol'd.
Title: Re
Post by: Suu on May 24, 2010, 09:38:44 PM
No Hurley, YOU are the last Cylon.

And Hurley was the cylon.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: maphdet on May 25, 2010, 12:06:51 AM
 :argh!:

That is all I have to say.

Oh and they could have given us 2 and  1/2 hours of more questions answered instead of the damn re-caps. :argh!:
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Dimocritus on May 25, 2010, 01:53:43 AM
There's one thing they can do to either redeem themselves, or make the whole thing an even bigger dissapointment. Make a movie.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Suu on May 25, 2010, 02:02:13 AM
That only worked for Firefly.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: hooplala on May 25, 2010, 04:19:26 AM
Quote from: -Kel- on May 24, 2010, 09:07:27 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on May 24, 2010, 05:52:30 PM
Too many goddamn commercials!   :argh!:

Couldn't they have got Target to shell out some extra dough and just run their commercials instead of having the show so damned chopped up?  2 1/2 hours sounds nice until you realize that probably a good 30 minutes of it is ads.  The hard core Lost fans watching this thing don't give a fuck about where they can get surf and turf or the latest death trap on wheels from Toyota.  Just give us the fucking show!

at least target made commericals especially for the audience of the show. i was laughing my ass off at them.

but...imo.....

If you haven't seen the ending of Lost, stop reading now. (if you care)


Listen carefully to the dialog between Jack and his dad. Everyone there died where they normally died. Jin, Sung & Sajid on the submarine, Juliette in the hole, Kate at some unrevealed point in the future. Jack's father said they were all there because "there is no now, here", meaning that anyone who died in the past or the future would share the same space there.

Their time on the island was real, the island was real. What they were saying is that the alternate timeline of the 6th season actually begins the moment jack dies at the end. The alternate timeline was his journey to accept death. Its point was to make him remember, to see that his time on the island with those people, was the most important part of his life.

So there you have it. It all really happened, and jack died at the end.

That's just how I and the Mr. viewed it.




Kel is the only person ITT who understood the finale, apparently.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Dimocritus on May 25, 2010, 04:21:50 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on May 25, 2010, 04:19:26 AM
Quote from: -Kel- on May 24, 2010, 09:07:27 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on May 24, 2010, 05:52:30 PM
Too many goddamn commercials!   :argh!:

Couldn't they have got Target to shell out some extra dough and just run their commercials instead of having the show so damned chopped up?  2 1/2 hours sounds nice until you realize that probably a good 30 minutes of it is ads.  The hard core Lost fans watching this thing don't give a fuck about where they can get surf and turf or the latest death trap on wheels from Toyota.  Just give us the fucking show!

at least target made commericals especially for the audience of the show. i was laughing my ass off at them.

but...imo.....

If you haven't seen the ending of Lost, stop reading now. (if you care)


Listen carefully to the dialog between Jack and his dad. Everyone there died where they normally died. Jin, Sung & Sajid on the submarine, Juliette in the hole, Kate at some unrevealed point in the future. Jack's father said they were all there because "there is no now, here", meaning that anyone who died in the past or the future would share the same space there.

Their time on the island was real, the island was real. What they were saying is that the alternate timeline of the 6th season actually begins the moment jack dies at the end. The alternate timeline was his journey to accept death. Its point was to make him remember, to see that his time on the island with those people, was the most important part of his life.

So there you have it. It all really happened, and jack died at the end.

That's just how I and the Mr. viewed it.




Kel is the only person ITT who understood the finale, apparently.

I understood it, I just wanted abit more explanaitions about certain things. I was hoping that they wouldn't leave as many story problems.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: hooplala on May 25, 2010, 04:23:23 AM
Which parts did you want explained more?
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Dimocritus on May 25, 2010, 04:25:38 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on May 25, 2010, 04:23:23 AM
Which parts did you want explained more?

Mostly a clearer explanaition of the islands "mysterious" qualites and some clarity on the early Jacob/Man in black and their "mother" stuff in addition to some more nit-picky stuff.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: hooplala on May 25, 2010, 04:30:10 AM
Quote from: dimo on May 25, 2010, 04:25:38 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on May 25, 2010, 04:23:23 AM
Which parts did you want explained more?

Mostly a clearer explanaition of the islands "mysterious" qualites and some clarity on the early Jacob/Man in black and their "mother" stuff in addition to some more nit-picky stuff.

Yeah, that would have been nice.

When the plug was pulled it sounded like machinery to me... my theory is ancient aliens.  I prefer that to "god".
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Dimocritus on May 25, 2010, 04:33:33 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on May 25, 2010, 04:30:10 AM
Quote from: dimo on May 25, 2010, 04:25:38 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on May 25, 2010, 04:23:23 AM
Which parts did you want explained more?

Mostly a clearer explanaition of the islands "mysterious" qualites and some clarity on the early Jacob/Man in black and their "mother" stuff in addition to some more nit-picky stuff.

Yeah, that would have been nice.

When the plug was pulled it sounded like machinery to me... my theory is ancient aliens.  I prefer that to "god".

Agree'd. Though, the church they were in was multi-denominational (is that the right term?), which I thought was nice of them.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on May 25, 2010, 05:28:21 AM
Quote from: -Kel- on May 24, 2010, 09:07:27 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on May 24, 2010, 05:52:30 PM
Too many goddamn commercials!   :argh!:

Couldn't they have got Target to shell out some extra dough and just run their commercials instead of having the show so damned chopped up?  2 1/2 hours sounds nice until you realize that probably a good 30 minutes of it is ads.  The hard core Lost fans watching this thing don't give a fuck about where they can get surf and turf or the latest death trap on wheels from Toyota.  Just give us the fucking show!

Listen carefully to the dialog between Jack and his dad. Everyone there died where they normally died. Jin, Sung & Sajid on the submarine, Juliette in the hole, Kate at some unrevealed point in the future. Jack's father said they were all there because "there is no now, here", meaning that anyone who died in the past or the future would share the same space there.

Their time on the island was real, the island was real. What they were saying is that the alternate timeline of the 6th season actually begins the moment jack dies at the end. The alternate timeline was his journey to accept death. Its point was to make him remember, to see that his time on the island with those people, was the most important part of his life.

So there you have it. It all really happened, and jack died at the end.

That's just how I and the Mr. viewed it.




^This

SPOILER ALERT

In between my last post and going to band practice, etc... this was the conclusion I came to. The people on the Island were the most important people in Jack's life. The fact that Christian said "some much later" pretty much sums it up (meaning Hurley, Kate, Sawyer, Desmond, Rose, Bernard, and Frank all died later). The flash-sideways is Jack's first phase of afterlife, and a place to meet up with the people who actually mattered in his life. After they themselves died. Here's the thing I don't get though... Jack had a son with Juliet in the flash sideways, and he seems to matter to him.... Did Jack knock up Kate (I'm assuming it wasn't actually Juliet) off screen in the last season? Is he facing regret that he never knew his son? And as far as flash-sideways being purgatory, wtf happened when they blew up the nuke then? I was pretty sure that they had created an alternate timeline in which they never came to the Island, Jacob never altered their lives, and therefore they took different courses. That's why I want a little more clarity. I've not seen the DVDs so I never saw a dead Desmond, etc... but maybe I should. Might clear up a few things. I did like that meet up between Hurley and Ben, and Locke and Ben though. Especially where Ben apologizes to Locke for killing him, and where he tells Hurley he was a great number 1 and Hurley says Ben was a great number 2... leaves a lot to be interpreted, but, yeah, Hurley was a better Jacob than Jacob, and Ben ended up redeeming himself from his moral ambiguity. That was kinda cool. I like the ending more now that I've had more time to think about it.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Salty on May 25, 2010, 05:45:56 AM
I'm convinced that this show was six years of JJ. Abrahms getting paid to fuck with people.
Isn't he a discordian, didn't he mention eris on some award show or something?
The show ended on 5/23, flight 815.

What made me sure that he had no intention of resolving anything was when I saw an interview (with Colbert, I believe), he looked off camera, said "Lost is...confusing" in this introspective way, and got this big shit-eating grin.

We've been TROLLED people.  :argh!:
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on May 25, 2010, 05:47:01 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on May 25, 2010, 04:30:10 AM
Quote from: dimo on May 25, 2010, 04:25:38 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on May 25, 2010, 04:23:23 AM
Which parts did you want explained more?

Mostly a clearer explanaition of the islands "mysterious" qualites and some clarity on the early Jacob/Man in black and their "mother" stuff in addition to some more nit-picky stuff.

Yeah, that would have been nice.

When the plug was pulled it sounded like machinery to me... my theory is ancient aliens.  I prefer that to "god".

They still don't adequately explain the Egyptian mystique. Ok, Jacob and MIB were essentially the sons of a Roman mother, but where did all the Egyptian crap come from? Why did their people (Romans) have a scientific acumen more in fitting with the Renaissance/Early Modern Period even thought they clearly were ancient from their fantasy TV show clothing? And then, why does Jacob have a Hebrew name? Was it because he was born to a Christian mother in the late Empire? And what is the Heart of the Island? Why is it so important? More importantly--why would MIB's leaving the Island have destroyed the whole world? That's a pretty big one. Near as I can tell, it's just some misanthropic Italian turned to smoke dude who just wants to get the fuck off the Island. That doesn't seem like Hell breaking loose on Earth to me. I'd want to get the hell off too. I don't see why the Universe has to collapse as a result. What is the mystical significance of the Valenzetti Equation and why would it curse Hurley if they're just a statistical formula? And Walt. What the fuck is up with Walt? Forget the fact that he's too old to play the part, that's a loose thread. It's questions like these. They demand answers.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on May 25, 2010, 05:50:31 AM
Quote from: Alty on May 25, 2010, 05:45:56 AM
I'm convinced that this show was six years of JJ. Abrahms getting paid to fuck with people.
Isn't he a discordian, didn't he mention eris on some award show or something?
The show ended on 5/23, flight 815.

What made me sure that he had no intention of resolving anything was when I saw an interview (with Colbert, I believe), he looked off camera, said "Lost is...confusing" in this introspective way, and got this big shit-eating grin.

We've been TROLLED people.  :argh!:

That would be kinda cool actually. One of the numbers is 23, and of course 42 is the answer to everything. Hmmm...
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Dimocritus on May 25, 2010, 05:57:48 AM
Quote from: Alty on May 25, 2010, 05:45:56 AM
I'm convinced that this show was six years of JJ. Abrahms getting paid to fuck with people.
Isn't he a discordian, didn't he mention eris on some award show or something?
The show ended on 5/23, flight 815.

What made me sure that he had no intention of resolving anything was when I saw an interview (with Colbert, I believe), he looked off camera, said "Lost is...confusing" in this introspective way, and got this big shit-eating grin.

We've been TROLLED people.  :argh!:

I missed this post the first time through. I'm just going to beleive it, it makes it all better this way...
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on May 25, 2010, 06:10:40 AM
Quote from: Alty on May 25, 2010, 05:45:56 AM
I'm convinced that this show was six years of JJ. Abrahms getting paid to fuck with people.
Isn't he a discordian, didn't he mention eris on some award show or something?
The show ended on 5/23, flight 815.

What made me sure that he had no intention of resolving anything was when I saw an interview (with Colbert, I believe), he looked off camera, said "Lost is...confusing" in this introspective way, and got this big shit-eating grin.

We've been TROLLED people.  :argh!:

Just for reference, do you know what award or when it was? Google and Youtube aren't giving me much to go on. If you can put a link to a clip where he accepts an award and says something like "First and foremost I would like to thank Eris, with Her all things are possible..." I will have to laugh at myself and applaud him.

Unless you're J.J. Abrams and can confirm this as a primary source...  :fnord:
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Dimocritus on May 25, 2010, 06:11:39 AM
Hrm... Found this (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/The_Illuminatus!_Trilogy). Wasn't convinved 'till I clicked a link for a character, Malick (Malik. As in Joe) who's first appearence was on June... 23rd?!?!? ZOMGDONE.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Salty on May 25, 2010, 06:17:11 AM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on May 25, 2010, 06:10:40 AM
Quote from: Alty on May 25, 2010, 05:45:56 AM
I'm convinced that this show was six years of JJ. Abrahms getting paid to fuck with people.
Isn't he a discordian, didn't he mention eris on some award show or something?
The show ended on 5/23, flight 815.

What made me sure that he had no intention of resolving anything was when I saw an interview (with Colbert, I believe), he looked off camera, said "Lost is...confusing" in this introspective way, and got this big shit-eating grin.

We've been TROLLED people.  :argh!:

Just for reference, do you know what award or when it was? Google and Youtube aren't giving me much to go on. If you can put a link to a clip where he accepts an award and says something like "First and foremost I would like to thank Eris, with Her all things are possible..." I will have to laugh at myself and applaud him.

Unless you're J.J. Abrams and can confirm this as a primary source...  :fnord:

Unfortunately it is a hazy memory, though I beleive it may have been discordia, not eris.
But there may be a reason Ten Ton Mantis never shows his face.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Dimocritus on May 25, 2010, 06:18:19 AM
Holy crap. If you click the link for "23" they Lo5 the whole thing for you. How did I miss all that?
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on May 25, 2010, 06:34:53 AM
Quote from: dimo on May 25, 2010, 06:18:19 AM
Holy crap. If you click the link for "23" they Lo5 the whole thing for you. How did I miss all that?

Hmmm... following the links now. Intriguing.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Dimocritus on May 25, 2010, 06:37:28 AM
I'm pretty sure Alty's right. Or at least right enough for me. We have been trolled.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Vene on May 25, 2010, 07:09:10 AM
If anybody can confirm this was a troll, well, that's about the only way I'd actually watch the damn thing.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on May 25, 2010, 07:12:18 AM
Quote from: Vene on May 25, 2010, 07:09:10 AM
If anybody can confirm this was a troll, well, that's about the only way I'd actually watch the damn thing.

It was actually a pretty good show. A very frustratingly good show. You also now have the benefit of watching up to season 5 immediately. by the time you get to the end of season 5, Season 6 will be out on DVD.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: the last yatto on May 25, 2010, 08:55:12 AM
I hope a publisher buys Faraday's journal and resells it... id be curious to what was put in there.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: the last yatto on May 25, 2010, 09:08:56 AM
Quote from: dimo on May 25, 2010, 06:37:28 AM
I'm pretty sure Alty's right. Or at least right enough for me. We have been trolled.

Sayid being a Republic Guard was very much, I think they took many influences,
they also gave the audience fake clues as well.


Quote from: Vene on May 25, 2010, 07:09:10 AM
If anybody can confirm this was a troll...

come on the last episode was a clip show...
only way they really could have confirmed troll if someone said 'sometimes a cigar is just a cigar'
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: hooplala on May 25, 2010, 02:04:47 PM
Can't we just say now that "everything is a troll" and get on with our lives?
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: LMNO on May 25, 2010, 02:16:11 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on May 25, 2010, 02:04:47 PM
Can't we just say now that "everything is a troll" and get on with our lives?

:troll:
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Dimocritus on May 25, 2010, 04:17:58 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 25, 2010, 02:16:11 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on May 25, 2010, 02:04:47 PM
Can't we just say now that "everything is a troll" and get on with our lives?

:troll:

:troll:
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: hooplala on May 25, 2010, 04:19:04 PM
Wash, rinse, repeat.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: AFK on May 25, 2010, 04:35:49 PM
I think part of the problem was setting a firm timeline for the show to end.  And that timeline was agreed upon with ABC at a time LOST was receiving some hefty negative critiques and declining ratings.  And so I think this basically went one of two ways, either the timeline was too short, and thus didn't give them adequate time to tell the stories behind the unresolved mysteries, (like the numbers, Walt, the hieroglyphics, etc.) OR the timeline was too long and they had to start putting in filler, and in the process, created more questions that they were never planning to answer. 

Long story short, I think, yet again, ABC managed to ultimately screw up a really good show. 
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: hooplala on May 25, 2010, 04:38:57 PM
What more about the numbers is there to say?
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: AFK on May 25, 2010, 05:12:28 PM
Were the origins ever explained?  We see all of the "coincidences" but were they ever tied together?  Was it a Dharma convention that Jacob used as part of his effort to "touch" Hurley?  I don't remember that being revealed explicitly but maybe I missed it. 
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on May 25, 2010, 05:13:22 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on May 25, 2010, 04:38:57 PM
What more about the numbers is there to say?

They're basically part of an equation. So how did they curse Hurley? Like, the way its explained is that they're merely predictors of human extinction, but they take on a strongly magical effect on Hurley's life.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: -Kel- on May 25, 2010, 05:19:04 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on May 25, 2010, 05:28:21 AM
Here's the thing I don't get though... Jack had a son with Juliet in the flash sideways, and he seems to matter to him....

I thought it was his way of dealing with his father. He would never get to see his father's pov without being one himself. In one of the ep Jack's says to his son, "i'm frightened of my father." and the kid replies that he is frightened of him.

i think it was the only way his mind could deal.

imo
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 25, 2010, 06:05:32 PM
All the hoopla about this show almost makes me want to watch it. It sounds completely insane.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: hooplala on May 25, 2010, 07:19:37 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on May 25, 2010, 05:12:28 PM
Were the origins ever explained?  We see all of the "coincidences" but were they ever tied together?  Was it a Dharma convention that Jacob used as part of his effort to "touch" Hurley?  I don't remember that being revealed explicitly but maybe I missed it. 

The numbers corresponded with the final living candidates... it wasn't stated overtly, but I got the impression that the numbers had a lot to do with how Jacob was able to keep tabs on, and manipulate the lives of, the candidates.  MiB said: "Jacob had a thing for numbers."
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: hooplala on May 25, 2010, 07:20:33 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on May 25, 2010, 06:05:32 PM
All the hoopla about this show almost makes me want to watch it. It sounds completely insane.

It is insane, but a lot of fun.  If you ever read the Dark Tower series you would probably like this, I find them very similar.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 25, 2010, 07:25:45 PM
(http://www.lamebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/lostfinal2.png)
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Dimocritus on May 25, 2010, 07:35:53 PM
Those people obviously didn't understand the ending (they haven't been dead all along, things actually happened) but that last post pretty much sums it all up.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on May 25, 2010, 07:38:24 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on May 25, 2010, 07:25:45 PM
(http://www.lamebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/lostfinal2.png)

Funny banter, except they did actually survive the plane crash. The alternate reality was a purgatory like place. A few weeks ago they had an episode where one of the characters was convinced that he was dead and went to hell. Jacob responds by repeatedly dunking his head under water and shouting, "You still think you're dead? Why should I stop doing this?" It was a funny outburst. Probably due to repeated assertions that it was purgatory when the producers said that it (the Island itself) was not.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: AFK on May 25, 2010, 07:58:21 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on May 25, 2010, 07:19:37 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on May 25, 2010, 05:12:28 PM
Were the origins ever explained?  We see all of the "coincidences" but were they ever tied together?  Was it a Dharma convention that Jacob used as part of his effort to "touch" Hurley?  I don't remember that being revealed explicitly but maybe I missed it. 

The numbers corresponded with the final living candidates... it wasn't stated overtly, but I got the impression that the numbers had a lot to do with how Jacob was able to keep tabs on, and manipulate the lives of, the candidates.  MiB said: "Jacob had a thing for numbers."

So did Jacob give the numbers to Dharma to use as the sequence for quelling the electromagnetic charge or was it just a coincidence?  I never got the impression there was any kind of firm link between Jacob and the Dharma Initiative. 
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: the last yatto on May 25, 2010, 08:22:53 PM
(http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/826/funnypicturescatkittens.jpg) (http://img203.imageshack.us/i/funnypicturescatkittens.jpg/)
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: AFK on May 25, 2010, 08:24:27 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on May 25, 2010, 07:38:24 PM
Funny banter, except they did actually survive the plane crash. The alternate reality was a purgatory like place. A few weeks ago they had an episode where one of the characters was convinced that he was dead and went to hell. Jacob responds by repeatedly dunking his head under water and shouting, "You still think you're dead? Why should I stop doing this?" It was a funny outburst. Probably due to repeated assertions that it was purgatory when the producers said that it (the Island itself) was not.

Wasn't that from the episode that gave the backstory on Richard Alpert?  And that is a good point.  It wouldn't have made much sense to give backstories of Alpert, Jacob, and MiB if it was all just a purgatory/dream.  

Part of the confusion I think stems from the start of the flash sideways which was right after Juliet sets of the A-bomb.  Casually, it could seem like maybe the A-bomb did something really screwy to time and created the alternate, parallel universe, and that the point of Season 6 was going to be bringing those two universes together.  But the explanation for the flash sideways, that they were basically part of this purgatory, basically means that the universes were not parallel.  Christian says that it didn't exist in a "now", yet, their lives intersected along a linear flow of events in the flash sideways universe.  Can time exist within timelessness?  

Another thought, they could also have done a better job of selling the purgatory idea if they hadn't omitted characters in the final scenes like Michael, Mr. Eko, Libby, Artz, Ana Lucia, etc., etc.,

Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on May 25, 2010, 08:38:38 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on May 25, 2010, 08:24:27 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on May 25, 2010, 07:38:24 PM
Funny banter, except they did actually survive the plane crash. The alternate reality was a purgatory like place. A few weeks ago they had an episode where one of the characters was convinced that he was dead and went to hell. Jacob responds by repeatedly dunking his head under water and shouting, "You still think you're dead? Why should I stop doing this?" It was a funny outburst. Probably due to repeated assertions that it was purgatory when the producers said that it (the Island itself) was not.

Wasn't that from the episode that gave the backstory on Richard Alpert?  And that is a good point.  It wouldn't have made much sense to give backstories of Alpert, Jacob, and MiB if it was all just a purgatory/dream.  

Part of the confusion I think stems from the start of the flash sideways which was right after Juliet sets of the A-bomb.  Casually, it could seem like maybe the A-bomb did something really screwy to time and created the alternate, parallel universe, and that the point of Season 6 was going to be bringing those two universes together.  But the explanation for the flash sideways, that they were basically part of this purgatory, basically means that the universes were not parallel.  Christian says that it didn't exist in a "now", yet, their lives intersected along a linear flow of events in the flash sideways universe.  Can time exist within timelessness?  

Another thought, they could also have done a better job of selling the purgatory idea if they hadn't omitted characters in the final scenes like Michael, Mr. Eko, Libby, Artz, Ana Lucia, etc., etc.,



The A-Bomb threw me off too. Maybe the flash-sideways was an afterthought, kinda like "fine, you think it's all purgatory, we'll throw purgatory in there"
The A-Bomb did send them back to 2007, so that was kinda screwy, but it seemed like a plausible explanation- The A-Bomb would have destroyed the island (or at least a significant chunk of it), creating a grandfather paradox, resolving into two parallel timelines. Instead, we have to assume that the electromagnetism of the future location of the Swan contained the blast. Sayid did note that the amount of concrete in the hatch was comparable to Chernobyl.

As for the linear time in the timeless location, I suppose that it is possible that a human soul meeting up with other human souls in a place outside of time and space would by necessity interpret their stay there as past>present>future instead of pastpresentfuture in order to remember their lives and progress past its events.

AS far as the characters- forgot about Artz! that was so long ago, but a hilarious death. Ana Lucia was shown in the flash-sideways but it was stated that she wasn't ready to remember (I think by either Hurley or Desmond), just as Ben decided to wait outside the church admitting to Hurley that he wasn't ready. The guy who played Eko wanted nothing to do with the show even though he was asked. Michael's absence is a bit weird, but he is one of those whispering ghosts in the jungle. It's possible that he is still an earthbound spirit. It would have been great to see Scott and Steve together there seeing as how everyone confused them for each other.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Triple Zero on May 25, 2010, 08:44:16 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on May 24, 2010, 05:52:30 PM
Too many goddamn commercials!   :argh!:

Couldn't they have got Target to shell out some extra dough and just run their commercials instead of having the show so damned chopped up?  2 1/2 hours sounds nice until you realize that probably a good 30 minutes of it is ads.  The hard core Lost fans watching this thing don't give a fuck about where they can get surf and turf or the latest death trap on wheels from Toyota.  Just give us the fucking show!

So, you get the show from the torrents the next day (or even an hour after it finishes) and watch it without the ads?
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Bruno on May 25, 2010, 09:03:07 PM
I watched it on Hulu. Only an hour and 45 minutes.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: hooplala on May 25, 2010, 09:53:57 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on May 25, 2010, 07:58:21 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on May 25, 2010, 07:19:37 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on May 25, 2010, 05:12:28 PM
Were the origins ever explained?  We see all of the "coincidences" but were they ever tied together?  Was it a Dharma convention that Jacob used as part of his effort to "touch" Hurley?  I don't remember that being revealed explicitly but maybe I missed it. 

The numbers corresponded with the final living candidates... it wasn't stated overtly, but I got the impression that the numbers had a lot to do with how Jacob was able to keep tabs on, and manipulate the lives of, the candidates.  MiB said: "Jacob had a thing for numbers."

So did Jacob give the numbers to Dharma to use as the sequence for quelling the electromagnetic charge or was it just a coincidence?  I never got the impression there was any kind of firm link between Jacob and the Dharma Initiative. 

Some of the members of the Dharma Initiative were also candidates, so I suppose he called them to the island too... with them, the numbers were the Valenzetti Equation, the sum of a long series of equations which stated when the world would end. 
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Iason Ouabache on May 27, 2010, 04:55:11 AM
How it should have ended:

(http://i48.tinypic.com/ddpf1f.jpg)
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on May 27, 2010, 05:17:57 AM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on May 27, 2010, 04:55:11 AM
How it should have ended:

(http://i48.tinypic.com/ddpf1f.jpg)

Actually, that would be acceptable to me too. Millions of others would be pissed (or say they would be. A good portion of them would be laughing inside).
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Triple Zero on May 27, 2010, 10:52:13 AM
"It was all the dogs dream" ?? :lulz:
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Dimocritus on May 27, 2010, 08:18:34 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on May 27, 2010, 04:55:11 AM
How it should have ended:

(http://i48.tinypic.com/ddpf1f.jpg)

Brilliant!
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Iason Ouabache on May 27, 2010, 09:37:51 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on May 27, 2010, 10:52:13 AM
"It was all the dogs dream" ?? :lulz:
It's like the ending to St. Elsewhere except a bazillion times funnier.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Iron Sulfide on May 27, 2010, 10:10:08 PM
someone posted http://chooseyourownlost.com ...

i'm here to post http://tv.gawker.com/5458253/lost-pick-your-own-destiny

(PS this site has labeled NSFW links...)
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: the last yatto on May 28, 2010, 01:53:13 PM
Turns out you were right to give this man a mustache... :lulz:

WTF CHARLES FARADAY?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0383393/

on a related note: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOfGjo3EuCo
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: the last yatto on May 28, 2010, 02:05:39 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 25, 2010, 02:16:11 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on May 25, 2010, 02:04:47 PM
Can't we just say now that "everything is a troll" and get on with our lives?

:troll:

http://io9.com/5545911/lost-was-the-ultimate-long-con
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: LaughingOtter on May 28, 2010, 02:11:30 PM
The .GIF is brilliant! Made more sense than the show!
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: hooplala on May 28, 2010, 04:12:02 PM
I've come to the (perhaps mistaken) conclusion that the people who feel cheated by the lack of "answers" to the "mysteries" think that Lost was a game, a mystery game.  Like Clue or Silent Hill.  It wasn't.  It was a tv show.  The mysteries were not mysteries, they were quirks to show that the program was dealing with things not dealt with in most standard dramas.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Dimocritus on May 28, 2010, 05:07:02 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on May 28, 2010, 04:12:02 PM
I've come to the (perhaps mistaken) conclusion that the people who feel cheated by the lack of "answers" to the "mysteries" think that Lost was a game, a mystery game.  Like Clue or Silent Hill.  It wasn't.  It was a tv show.  The mysteries were not mysteries, they were quirks to show that the program was dealing with things not dealt with in most standard dramas.

This is at least partially correct. I was viewing it as a game, and I was doing pretty good until I realized that it wasn't. Although, the more I think about it, the less dissapointed I am with it.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: AFK on January 18, 2011, 08:01:27 PM
Bump.

There's going to be an empty hole in the TV world this winter/spring without a new season of LOST. 

Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Adios on January 18, 2011, 08:02:15 PM
Quote from: RWHN, MPP on January 18, 2011, 08:01:27 PM
Bump.

There's going to be an empty hole in the TV world this winter/spring without a new season of LOST. 



How ever will I survive? Oh, right, never watched it.  :D
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: LMNO on January 18, 2011, 08:02:27 PM
Nonsense.  Steven Tyler and JLo are the new judges on American Idol!
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: AFK on January 18, 2011, 08:06:36 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on January 18, 2011, 08:02:27 PM
Nonsense.  Steven Tyler and JLo are the new judges on American Idol!

Get rid of Tyler, put Michael Emerson in as judge.  That is, Michael Emerson in charcter as Benjamin Linus. 

THAT would be some good TV.   
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Adios on January 18, 2011, 08:07:24 PM
I hate you all. Every one of you.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: AFK on January 18, 2011, 08:07:33 PM
But seriously, somebody needs to put that guy in a TV show or a movie or something.  I think my interest in Lost may have eventually waned had they not introduced his character.  
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Whatever on January 18, 2011, 08:42:19 PM
Quote from: RWHN, MPP on January 18, 2011, 08:06:36 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on January 18, 2011, 08:02:27 PM
Nonsense.  Steven Tyler and JLo are the new judges on American Idol!

Get rid of Tyler, put Michael Emerson in as judge.  That is, Michael Emerson in charcter as Benjamin Linus. 

THAT would be some good TV.   

SACRILIGE!!!!  You can never get rid of Steven Tyler, he is a demi-god and must be given his due.  Remember the original albums RWHN, the old stuff, the good stuff, the music that changed peoples lives.

Remember Aerosmith, Get Your Wings, Toys in the Attic and Rocks? 

:mrgreen:
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: AFK on January 18, 2011, 08:47:11 PM
Remember "I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing"?  And all of those songs in the 90s that were only memorable because Alicia Sliverstone was prancing around in the videos?  In fact, they are so memorable, I can't remember any of the song titles.  I think they were "Crazy", "Sleepy", "Mopey" something like that. 
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: hooplala on January 18, 2011, 08:51:56 PM
One word: Pink.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Whatever on January 18, 2011, 08:52:49 PM
Quote from: RWHN, MPP on January 18, 2011, 08:47:11 PM
Remember "I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing"?  And all of those songs in the 90s that were only memorable because Alicia Sliverstone was prancing around in the videos?  In fact, they are so memorable, I can't remember any of the song titles.  I think they were "Crazy", "Sleepy", "Mopey" something like that. 

BAH those were imposters....  The real Aerosmith was in extended rehab!!!  :wink:

I won't argue their later shit sucked gigantic ass, but their early stuff, man you have to give that credit!!!  I mean look at Metallica's newer shit?  

It seems many groups go through a dogpile stage in their later careers....
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: AFK on January 18, 2011, 08:59:37 PM
I'm not a huge Aerosmith fan so I'm a bit biased.  I think they have like 3 songs that I like. 

And don't even get me started on Metallica.  I'd like to think Cliff Burton still being alive would have prevented their musical atrocities of the 90s. 
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Whatever on January 18, 2011, 09:39:46 PM
Quote from: RWHN, MPP on January 18, 2011, 08:59:37 PM
I'm not a huge Aerosmith fan so I'm a bit biased.  I think they have like 3 songs that I like. 

And don't even get me started on Metallica.  I'd like to think Cliff Burton still being alive would have prevented their musical atrocities of the 90s. 

I can understand that, you are a bit young for Aerosmith to have had a huge impact on you!  Trust me, their early shit is awesome!!!

As for Metallica, I think we have always agreed on them.  That's why I used them as an example!!!   :wink:
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Adios on January 18, 2011, 09:42:46 PM
Rookies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMqVrUSz62o

Steppenwolf.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Cain on January 18, 2011, 10:05:18 PM
Quote from: RWHN, MPP on January 18, 2011, 08:47:11 PM
Remember "I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing"?  And all of those songs in the 90s that were only memorable because Alicia Sliverstone was prancing around in the videos?  In fact, they are so memorable, I can't remember any of the song titles.  I think they were "Crazy", "Sleepy", "Mopey" something like that. 

Those weren't song names, they were three of the seven Dwarves.

Anyway, ABC is relying on "The Event" to be the new Lost, since Flashfoward flopped.  "The Event" shows some promise, but I'm reserving full judgement until the end of season one.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Whatever on January 18, 2011, 10:12:42 PM
Lie to Me is Monday nights, it's pretty good.

Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Sister Fracture on January 18, 2011, 11:04:20 PM
There's always Team Oomi Zoomi, Courage the Cowardly Dog, Dora the Explorer, Go Diego, Go, Spongebob...

Oh wait. Sorry, I don't know what regular adults watch, because the only TV I watch is what will amuse the monkey.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: maphdet on January 18, 2011, 11:39:27 PM
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/lifestyle/2011/01/05/winning-megamillions-mirror-mystery-numbers-lost/


Would have been funnier if they all matched.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: AFK on January 19, 2011, 12:25:45 AM
Quote from: Niamh on January 18, 2011, 09:39:46 PM
Quote from: RWHN, MPP on January 18, 2011, 08:59:37 PM
I'm not a huge Aerosmith fan so I'm a bit biased.  I think they have like 3 songs that I like. 

And don't even get me started on Metallica.  I'd like to think Cliff Burton still being alive would have prevented their musical atrocities of the 90s. 

I can understand that, you are a bit young for Aerosmith to have had a huge impact on you!  Trust me, their early shit is awesome!!!

As for Metallica, I think we have always agreed on them.  That's why I used them as an example!!!   :wink:

Eh, I'm not that young.  I'm just not a fan. 
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: the last yatto on January 19, 2011, 09:56:04 AM
Conan called Cheney the man in black :fnord:
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: the last yatto on January 19, 2011, 09:57:50 AM
Quote from: maphdet on January 18, 2011, 11:39:27 PM
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/lifestyle/2011/01/05/winning-megamillions-mirror-mystery-numbers-lost/


Would have been funnier if they all matched.


or its proof that the numbers in the Valenzetti Equation can be changed
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Cain on January 19, 2011, 04:05:33 PM
Quote from: Niamh on January 18, 2011, 10:12:42 PM
Lie to Me is Monday nights, it's pretty good.



I liked the first season, but the shine has come off a little, especially with the current episodes, I think.  The last thing I've watched obsessively is Castle, mostly because of Nathan Fillion's acting and Stana Katic's...uh, other attributes.  And it doesn't take itself too seriously, most of the time.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: AFK on January 19, 2011, 05:02:01 PM
The only show I really follow nowadays is Criminal Minds on CBS.  Though I wish they'd stop messing around with the cast.  But the last couple of seasons have been really good.  sometimes the stories can be pretty unsettling, especially the ones where kids get killed. 
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Adios on January 19, 2011, 05:03:38 PM
I like Chuck.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Cain on January 19, 2011, 05:03:48 PM
Yeah, Criminal Minds doesn't pull many punches, from what I've seen of it.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: the last yatto on January 20, 2011, 01:48:53 AM
(http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af256/yattoksc/imagejpeg_2-2.jpg)
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Iason Ouabache on January 20, 2011, 08:34:57 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 18, 2011, 08:51:56 PM
One word: Pink.
It's like red... but not quite.

Quote from: Cain on January 18, 2011, 10:05:18 PM
Quote from: RWHN, MPP on January 18, 2011, 08:47:11 PM
Remember "I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing"?  And all of those songs in the 90s that were only memorable because Alicia Sliverstone was prancing around in the videos?  In fact, they are so memorable, I can't remember any of the song titles.  I think they were "Crazy", "Sleepy", "Mopey" something like that.  

Those weren't song names, they were three of the seven Dwarves.
Someone really needs to rewrite Snow White where you replace Doc with Crazy. Then have Crazy slowly kill all the other dwarves while Snow White is oblivious to everything... wait, what were we talking about?

Quote from: Cain on January 19, 2011, 04:05:33 PM
Quote from: Niamh on January 18, 2011, 10:12:42 PM
Lie to Me is Monday nights, it's pretty good.


I liked the first season, but the shine has come off a little, especially with the current episodes, I think.  The last thing I've watched obsessively is Castle, mostly because of Nathan Fillion's acting and Stana Katic's...uh, other attributes.  And it doesn't take itself too seriously, most of the time.
I still watch Lie to Me but I think it jumped the shark with the fucking MINING episode.  :weary:
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Triple Zero on January 20, 2011, 04:18:58 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on January 19, 2011, 05:03:38 PM
I like Chuck.

YEah! Chuck is great :D And they just started again this tuesday :)

Quote from: Able on January 20, 2011, 01:48:53 AM
(http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af256/yattoksc/imagejpeg_2-2.jpg)

I have no idea what that's doing in this thread, but I think this is the cutest one of you and your kid so far :)
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: hooplala on January 20, 2011, 04:28:55 PM
He's wearing a Dharma Initiative tshirt in the pic.
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: the last yatto on January 20, 2011, 06:43:40 PM
DID YOU KNOW: they have a one z with the system failure icons
Title: Re: LOST: Time I will never get back
Post by: Dysnomia on January 20, 2011, 07:02:58 PM
The plane crash that resulted in everyone being lost on the island, before dying horribly was all Hurley's fault because he's bad luck since winning the lotto.


THE END