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Principia Discordia => Discordian Recipes => Topic started by: Adios on May 25, 2010, 09:34:14 PM

Title: Cooking fish
Post by: Adios on May 25, 2010, 09:34:14 PM
IN THE DISHWASHER.

Who has a proven recipe for this?
Title: Re: Cooking fish
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 25, 2010, 10:00:51 PM
I've never heard of it, but it's hilarious! It would totally mindfuck my kids. I'm going to try it.
Title: Re: Cooking fish
Post by: Adios on May 25, 2010, 10:02:46 PM
http://www.thesalmons.org/lynn/dishwasher.html


ECH is probably going to have my ass for this thread.
Title: Re: Cooking fish
Post by: Triple Zero on May 25, 2010, 10:04:21 PM
nothing proven, but I guess you'd just wrap it up real tight with some herbs and put it in?

sounds like it would turn out a littlebit like sous-vide, except without the temperature control.

fish generally already cooks at 113F or so (I forgot the exact temp, it was way less than beef or pork), the dishwasher easily gets to that temp.

just remember from my soud-vide thread, that any herbs or spices come out a lot stronger, because none of the liquid in the package gets lost. I found this especially true for black pepper.

just wrap it up air and water tight. also be sure no air is in the bag, because it will expand and bubble. maybe in the case of dishwasher even use a double bag, just to be sure that no detergent stuff gets in.
Title: Re: Cooking fish
Post by: Triple Zero on May 25, 2010, 10:06:02 PM
oh reading that site, it says no detergent. Where's the fun in that if you don't cook the salmon during a regular dishwashing with the dirty dishes?

(it'd also be a bit wasteful of energy and water, but that's just me)
Title: Re: Cooking fish
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 25, 2010, 10:06:18 PM
This looks like a good place to start: http://www.winexmagazine.com/index.php/wine/vieweat/dishwasher-salmon/
Title: Re: Cooking fish
Post by: Adios on May 25, 2010, 10:08:48 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on May 25, 2010, 10:06:18 PM
This looks like a good place to start: http://www.winexmagazine.com/index.php/wine/vieweat/dishwasher-salmon/

That sounds good!
Title: Re: Cooking fish
Post by: Adios on May 25, 2010, 10:09:28 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on May 25, 2010, 10:06:02 PM
oh reading that site, it says no detergent. Where's the fun in that if you don't cook the salmon during a regular dishwashing with the dirty dishes?

(it'd also be a bit wasteful of energy and water, but that's just me)

If you regularly suffer from constipation detergent is a good thing to add.
Title: Re: Cooking fish
Post by: Triple Zero on May 25, 2010, 10:43:02 PM
I somehow have the feeling that dishwasher tablets are a bit more aggressive stuff than your average liquid hand dishwashing detergent.

But then, it might just be concentrated.

Anyway, I think I'm going to try this as well, some time!
Title: Re: Cooking fish
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on May 25, 2010, 11:12:31 PM
You need to make loads to make it more energy efficient.
Title: Re: Cooking fish
Post by: Adios on May 25, 2010, 11:26:34 PM
The beauty of it is the entire house doesn't end up smelling like fish afterwards.
Title: Re: Cooking fish
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 26, 2010, 04:36:58 AM
just your entire dishes afterward?
Title: Re: Cooking fish
Post by: East Coast Hustle on May 26, 2010, 05:42:50 AM
I don't know about cooking fish in the dishwasher, but I've definitely cooked it on a car engine (while in motion) before. I'm all for experimenting with ways to cook things, I just don't expect that all of them will be wonderful.
Title: Re: Cooking fish
Post by: Triple Zero on May 26, 2010, 08:27:03 AM
that's another thing I will try some day.
Title: Re: Cooking fish
Post by: Adios on May 26, 2010, 06:13:33 PM
Quote from: Exit City Hustle on May 26, 2010, 05:42:50 AM
I don't know about cooking fish in the dishwasher, but I've definitely cooked it on a car engine (while in motion) before. I'm all for experimenting with ways to cook things, I just don't expect that all of them will be wonderful.

I have heated up canned stuff on an engine block but never cooked fish on one.
Title: Re: Cooking fish
Post by: East Coast Hustle on May 27, 2010, 12:36:59 PM
same premise as the dishwasher, you just wrap it tightly in foil with some seasonings and try to time your drive so it will be done when you get there. Works best with firmer-fleshed fish like salmon, halibut, or mahi mahi.
Title: Re: Cooking fish
Post by: Triple Zero on May 27, 2010, 03:40:49 PM
Would probably even be possible to do that with a complete one-person meal, I think?

("complete meal", in the Netherlands means a combo of potato + vegetables + meat)

If you do it long enough even potatoes will get done, right?
Title: Re: Cooking fish
Post by: Richter on May 27, 2010, 03:57:53 PM
Like a pot roast?  I don't see whay it WOULDN'T work...

Quote from: Triple Zero on May 27, 2010, 03:40:49 PM
Would probably even be possible to do that with a complete person, I think?

How I read that at first.
Title: Re: Cooking fish
Post by: LMNO on May 27, 2010, 03:59:47 PM
You have to make sure that all ingredients will be cooked properly if subjected to the same heat source for the same amount of time.

Potatoes and fish?  Only if it's a really thick fish, and you slice the potatoes very thin.  Otherwise, you'll either get undercooked potatoes, or overcooked fish, or both.
Title: Re: Cooking fish
Post by: Adios on May 27, 2010, 04:09:09 PM
This has me thinking about kabobs for a picnic.
Title: Re: Cooking fish
Post by: Triple Zero on May 27, 2010, 04:39:46 PM
Quote from: LMNO on May 27, 2010, 03:59:47 PM
You have to make sure that all ingredients will be cooked properly if subjected to the same heat source for the same amount of time.

Potatoes and fish?  Only if it's a really thick fish, and you slice the potatoes very thin.  Otherwise, you'll either get undercooked potatoes, or overcooked fish, or both.

Yeah I was gonna go with that kind of meat that gets more tender as you cook it longer. And then on a 3 hour trip.

Title: Re: Cooking fish
Post by: East Coast Hustle on May 27, 2010, 05:41:19 PM
the problem with that is that you usually braise those cuts of meat, and the car-engine method doesn't lend itself to that as well. Also, even if it did, you're going for a LONG drive to cook a pot roast at 250-ish degrees. But you could pretty easily throw some chopped or julienned veggies in with the fish for a more complete meal. I'd stay away from potatoes or any root vegetable as it won't cook quickly enough at that temperature.
Title: Re: Cooking fish
Post by: trippinprincezz13 on May 27, 2010, 06:31:05 PM
We did that with some chicken and vegetables a little while ago. Came out awesome. The best part was as it started heating up/cooking we could smell the deliciousness coming through the vents when the car was stopped.

Can't say I've tried cooking in the dishwasher before though, heh
Title: Re: Cooking fish
Post by: LMNO on May 27, 2010, 06:51:14 PM
ECH, what would be your opinion on a dry-rubbed rack of St Louis-style ribs?  No braise, plenty of connective tissue to render...
Title: Re: Cooking fish
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 27, 2010, 07:43:45 PM
I should try a pot roast next time I go on one of my longer drives.
Title: Re: Cooking fish
Post by: Jasper on May 28, 2010, 12:03:13 AM
I've heard of people who mod their scooters so that the under-seat compartment near the engine heats a bucket to cook chili.
Title: Re: Cooking fish
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 28, 2010, 04:34:38 AM
Quote from: LMNO on May 27, 2010, 06:51:14 PM
ECH, what would be your opinion on a dry-rubbed rack of St Louis-style ribs?  No braise, plenty of connective tissue to render...

I WILL FAK YOU!!
(http://softeuropean.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/slap.jpg)
Title: Re: Cooking fish
Post by: East Coast Hustle on May 28, 2010, 06:15:48 AM
Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on May 28, 2010, 04:34:38 AM
Quote from: LMNO on May 27, 2010, 06:51:14 PM
ECH, what would be your opinion on a dry-rubbed rack of St Louis-style ribs?  No braise, plenty of connective tissue to render...

I WILL FAK YOU!!
(http://softeuropean.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/slap.jpg)

:lulz:

I think it's a great idea as long as you're willing to drive to Madawaska to have dinner.
Title: Re: Cooking fish
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 28, 2010, 06:26:44 AM
I'm not driving all the way to Madwaskawillillaladilla to ruin a perfectly good rack of ribs.
Title: Re: Cooking fish
Post by: Suu on May 28, 2010, 03:09:09 PM
Hey Squidoo, next time I drive over from Clearwater to see you, my sister and I will smoke a pork shoulder on I-4.
Title: Re: Cooking fish
Post by: LMNO on May 28, 2010, 03:13:00 PM
Quote from: Suu on May 28, 2010, 03:09:09 PM
my sister and I will smoke a pork shoulder on I-4.

There goes my nipples again.
Title: Re: Cooking fish
Post by: Richter on May 28, 2010, 03:14:45 PM
My car's catlytic converter is leaking, I should strap loads of seaweed filled with clam, lobster, egg, and keilbasa to it.  It'd be like a rolling clam bake.
Title: Re: Cooking fish
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on May 28, 2010, 04:36:03 PM
Quote from: Suu on May 28, 2010, 03:09:09 PM
Hey Squidoo, next time I drive over from Clearwater to see you, my sister and I will smoke a pork shoulder on I-4.
:lulz: better make it a chicken, that's a pretty short drive
Also, could you imagine how many locals you'd have buzzing around your car like flies?
"Wutchoo ladiez cookin?"