Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: Vene on May 30, 2010, 05:51:23 PM

Title: Attn: Spags
Post by: Vene on May 30, 2010, 05:51:23 PM
My crazy to English translator is broken, translate please.
NSFW (http://www.goetia-girls.com/dakinidaemonicon_e.html)
Title: Re: Attn: Spags
Post by: Zyzyx on June 04, 2010, 03:29:33 AM
Well, apparently they are trying to describe spirits, describing their material and spiritual correspondences. I'm no super-expert or anything but I have an honorary PhD in Larnin Stuf from the Internet and role-playing splat-books, making most of the information I have several times removed from any primary source. Uncoding this sort of thing is a 300-meter lap relay through an Olympic-sized pool of BS.

This at first glance really seems like bullshit. The fact that the header of this page says "SHAMAN CHAOS MAGICK" is irksome - the only "shamans" left in the world, the only ones that really existed to begin with in the strictest sense are the folk spiritual practitioners in Mongolia and Russia, in the taiga, the steppe and around Lake Baikal. Hell they made the word "shaman" and should be the /only/ people to use it. Anywho these folks claim to combine surrealism, pop-occultism and pictures of naked girls. Each of these are fine by themselves, but you know the saying about too many cooks.

It is in fact porn, very /very/ heavily photoshopped with lots and lots of Goth stereotypes and text derivative of John Dee's Lesser Keys of Solomon the Wise, in an attempt to turn the prawn stars into Goetic demon-chicks. I imagine it makes for some imaginative fap sessions, but yeah. I've seen half of these women already, so maybe those who are not internet porn afficionados will find it more artsy than I.  :fap:
Title: Re: Attn: Spags
Post by: Juana on June 04, 2010, 03:56:20 AM
What were you looking this kind of thing up for, Vene? "CRITICAL PARANOIAC ROCKING HORSE OF WONDERLAND"?  :lulz:

Quote from: Zyzyx on June 04, 2010, 03:29:33 AM
....the only "shamans" left in the world, the only ones that really existed tojavascript:void(0); begin with in the strictest sense are the folk spiritual practitioners in Mongolia and Russia, in the taiga, the steppe and around Lake Baikal. Hell they made the word "shaman" and should be the /only/ people to use it.
Wrong. Hmong (http://www.pbs.org/splithorn/) and various indigenous religions have shamans. /pedantic
Title: Re: Attn: Spags
Post by: Zyzyx on June 04, 2010, 04:10:27 AM
QuoteHmong and various indigenous religions have shamans. /pedantic

Sure, but the word "shaman" comes from the Turkic root pronounced roughly the same way. It's really not much of an argument, I know. I'm not Franz Boas, but should have qualified my statement more. Still, I wanted to ninny and point out that lots of folks misuse the word "shaman" to mean something it isn't. Most animistic cultures have "shamanic" practices worked into their belief systems.

That's beside the point, anyway: Hmong, Balinese, traditional Native American practices are a lot closer to the definition of "shaman" than say the creator of this website.
Title: Re: Attn: Spags
Post by: Vene on June 04, 2010, 04:16:28 AM
I don't even remember how I found this shit.
Title: Re: Attn: Spags
Post by: NotPublished on June 04, 2010, 04:20:38 AM
what the hell is going on!
Title: Re: Attn: Spags
Post by: Zyzyx on June 04, 2010, 04:22:49 AM
At any rate sorry, didn't clarify the statement.

As for Goetia Girls, it's essentially impossible to fap to this stuff, at least at first.
Title: Re: Attn: Spags
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on June 04, 2010, 06:21:56 AM
Quote from: Hover Cat on June 04, 2010, 03:56:20 AM
What were you looking this kind of thing up for, Vene? "CRITICAL PARANOIAC ROCKING HORSE OF WONDERLAND"?  :lulz:

Quote from: Zyzyx on June 04, 2010, 03:29:33 AM
....the only "shamans" left in the world, the only ones that really existed tojavascript:void(0); begin with in the strictest sense are the folk spiritual practitioners in Mongolia and Russia, in the taiga, the steppe and around Lake Baikal. Hell they made the word "shaman" and should be the /only/ people to use it.
Wrong. Hmong (http://www.pbs.org/splithorn/) and various indigenous religions have shamans. /pedantic

Zyzyx is right on this-
The Hmong have shamans as we understand the word, but the word itself is more appropriately tied to Russian Native Animism.
For example, Native Americans don't have shamans, they have medicine men. Same thing but cultural difference/different religion. Different word should be used. Shaman is used in English as a blanket term, but doesn't mean it's accurate.
Title: Re: Attn: Spags
Post by: BadBeast on June 04, 2010, 09:32:32 AM
That review of "Illuminatus" was possibly a better, more cohesive read than the book itself!
And with pictures of nekkid chicks!
Title: Re: Attn: Spags
Post by: Juana on June 04, 2010, 06:40:37 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 04, 2010, 06:21:56 AM
Quote from: Hover Cat on June 04, 2010, 03:56:20 AM
What were you looking this kind of thing up for, Vene? "CRITICAL PARANOIAC ROCKING HORSE OF WONDERLAND"?  :lulz:

Quote from: Zyzyx on June 04, 2010, 03:29:33 AM
....the only "shamans" left in the world, the only ones that really existed tojavascript:void(0); begin with in the strictest sense are the folk spiritual practitioners in Mongolia and Russia, in the taiga, the steppe and around Lake Baikal. Hell they made the word "shaman" and should be the /only/ people to use it.
Wrong. Hmong (http://www.pbs.org/splithorn/) and various indigenous religions have shamans. /pedantic

Zyzyx is right on this-
The Hmong have shamans as we understand the word, but the word itself is more appropriately tied to Russian Native Animism.
For example, Native Americans don't have shamans, they have medicine men. Same thing but cultural difference/different religion. Different word should be used. Shaman is used in English as a blanket term, but doesn't mean it's accurate.
Thanks for continuing the pedantic stuff.
Title: Re: Attn: Spags
Post by: LMNO on June 04, 2010, 07:12:07 PM
Sadly, the porn was softcore, and not even interesting softcore, at that.  Even the "sigil-ing" WOMPS of the softcore porn did little to improve it.
Title: Re: Attn: Spags
Post by: Zyzyx on June 04, 2010, 07:14:25 PM
Quote from: Hover Cat on June 04, 2010, 06:40:37 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 04, 2010, 06:21:56 AM
Quote from: Hover Cat on June 04, 2010, 03:56:20 AM
What were you looking this kind of thing up for, Vene? "CRITICAL PARANOIAC ROCKING HORSE OF WONDERLAND"?  :lulz:

Quote from: Zyzyx on June 04, 2010, 03:29:33 AM
....the only "shamans" left in the world, the only ones that really existed tojavascript:void(0); begin with in the strictest sense are the folk spiritual practitioners in Mongolia and Russia, in the taiga, the steppe and around Lake Baikal. Hell they made the word "shaman" and should be the /only/ people to use it.
Wrong. Hmong (http://www.pbs.org/splithorn/) and various indigenous religions have shamans. /pedantic

Thanks for taking it so seriously!  :lulz:

Zyzyx is right on this-
The Hmong have shamans as we understand the word, but the word itself is more appropriately tied to Russian Native Animism.
For example, Native Americans don't have shamans, they have medicine men. Same thing but cultural difference/different religion. Different word should be used. Shaman is used in English as a blanket term, but doesn't mean it's accurate.
Thanks for continuing the pedantic stuff.
Title: Re: Attn: Spags
Post by: Telarus on June 05, 2010, 12:27:51 AM
Quote from: BadBeast on June 04, 2010, 09:32:32 AM
That review of "Illuminatus" was possibly a better, more cohesive read than the book itself!
And with pictures of nekkid chicks!
Title: Re: Attn: Spags
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 06, 2010, 05:38:23 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 04, 2010, 06:21:56 AM
Quote from: Hover Cat on June 04, 2010, 03:56:20 AM
What were you looking this kind of thing up for, Vene? "CRITICAL PARANOIAC ROCKING HORSE OF WONDERLAND"?  :lulz:

Quote from: Zyzyx on June 04, 2010, 03:29:33 AM
....the only "shamans" left in the world, the only ones that really existed tojavascript:void(0); begin with in the strictest sense are the folk spiritual practitioners in Mongolia and Russia, in the taiga, the steppe and around Lake Baikal. Hell they made the word "shaman" and should be the /only/ people to use it.
Wrong. Hmong (http://www.pbs.org/splithorn/) and various indigenous religions have shamans. /pedantic

Zyzyx is right on this-
The Hmong have shamans as we understand the word, but the word itself is more appropriately tied to Russian Native Animism.
For example, Native Americans don't have shamans, they have medicine men. Same thing but cultural difference/different religion. Different word should be used. Shaman is used in English as a blanket term, but doesn't mean it's accurate.

Unless you're going to learn the indigenous word for "medicine man" (lol) in every Native tongue, STFU.
Title: Re: Attn: Spags
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on June 07, 2010, 05:52:14 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on June 06, 2010, 05:38:23 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 04, 2010, 06:21:56 AM
Quote from: Hover Cat on June 04, 2010, 03:56:20 AM
What were you looking this kind of thing up for, Vene? "CRITICAL PARANOIAC ROCKING HORSE OF WONDERLAND"?  :lulz:

Quote from: Zyzyx on June 04, 2010, 03:29:33 AM
....the only "shamans" left in the world, the only ones that really existed tojavascript:void(0); begin with in the strictest sense are the folk spiritual practitioners in Mongolia and Russia, in the taiga, the steppe and around Lake Baikal. Hell they made the word "shaman" and should be the /only/ people to use it.
Wrong. Hmong (http://www.pbs.org/splithorn/) and various indigenous religions have shamans. /pedantic

Zyzyx is right on this-
The Hmong have shamans as we understand the word, but the word itself is more appropriately tied to Russian Native Animism.
For example, Native Americans don't have shamans, they have medicine men. Same thing but cultural difference/different religion. Different word should be used. Shaman is used in English as a blanket term, but doesn't mean it's accurate.

Unless you're going to learn the indigenous word for "medicine man" (lol) in every Native tongue, STFU.

Fair enough. Amazon.com, here I come!

(In my defense, I think I was sleep deprived when I wrote that)