Yes. It has, of course, as of late, been my pleasure to need to begrudgingly oblige to vote for Kerry in the face of four more years of Bush. While I don't particularly like Kerry or Edwards, and I believe Democrats and Republicans to be two nearly identical sides of one seriously fucked up coin, there is no doubt in my mind who would do a much better job as president. To describe the situation I use the cliche "Pick your poison." In this case, Kerry seems to be the preferred poison.
But then I was thinking the other day. That's right, I was thinking. And what was I thinking, you may ask? Well, I was thinking that, since they are both poisons, both will kill you. Eventually.
The United States is dying. The poison is in its veins, and the egregious outcome at this point is inevitable.
Bush & Co., along with all the deeds to be performed thereby, are the quick poison which will serve to end the life of this ill and ill-fated country in a very timely fasion, nigh instantly.
Kerry and his band of Republicrats, on the other hand, are the slow-working poison, the poison which slowly, over time, eats away at the insides of the country until This Great Republic, gaunt, passes away, agony etched in its face.
So which poison would you rather take? The one which prolongs your suffering, or the one which ends it all with one final gasp?
I would certainly choose the latter.
The end is ineluctable. It is up to us how it comes about.
Quote from: MescalineBananaSo which poison would you rather take? The one which prolongs your suffering, or the one which ends it all with one final gasp?
I would certainly choose the latter.
The end is ineluctable. It is up to us how it comes about.
One gives you time to make changes. The other is leading us towards a new dark age.
You decide.
I am personally hoping for a Dark Age, because then I can build my Mettaur army and rule the world!
Quote from: Compositus ConfusioI am personally hoping for a Dark Age, because then I can build my Mettaur army and rule the world!
Or die of an absessed tooth.
Whichever.
Quote from: The Good Reverend RogerQuote from: Compositus ConfusioI am personally hoping for a Dark Age, because then I can build my Mettaur army and rule the world!
Or die of an absessed tooth.
Whichever.
I wouldn't die of an absessed tooth. See, I have a one up on most people today: I can treat alot of things that most people think you need fancy medical attention for.
I can clean up a wound, sew it up, keep it bandaged, etc.
I can amputate a limb (I know
how. Never done it.)
I have a vast collection of herbology crap.
And I'll be armed to the teeth when the bullets run out.
Quote from: MescalineBananaYes. It has, of course, as of late, been my pleasure to need to begrudgingly oblige to vote for Kerry in the face of four more years of Bush. While I don't particularly like Kerry or Edwards, and I believe Democrats and Republicans to be two nearly identical sides of one seriously fucked up coin, there is no doubt in my mind who would do a much better job as president. To describe the situation I use the cliche "Pick your poison." In this case, Kerry seems to be the preferred poison.
But then I was thinking the other day. That's right, I was thinking. And what was I thinking, you may ask? Well, I was thinking that, since they are both poisons, both will kill you. Eventually.
The United States is dying. The poison is in its veins, and the egregious outcome at this point is inevitable.
Bush & Co., along with all the deeds to be performed thereby, are the quick poison which will serve to end the life of this ill and ill-fated country in a very timely fasion, nigh instantly.
Kerry and his band of Republicrats, on the other hand, are the slow-working poison, the poison which slowly, over time, eats away at the insides of the country until This Great Republic, gaunt, passes away, agony etched in its face.
So which poison would you rather take? The one which prolongs your suffering, or the one which ends it all with one final gasp?
I would certainly choose the latter.
The end is ineluctable. It is up to us how it comes about.
Psh,
Optimist.
Quote from: Compositus ConfusioQuote from: The Good Reverend RogerQuote from: Compositus ConfusioI am personally hoping for a Dark Age, because then I can build my Mettaur army and rule the world!
Or die of an absessed tooth.
Whichever.
I wouldn't die of an absessed tooth. See, I have a one up on most people today: I can treat alot of things that most people think you need fancy medical attention for.
I can clean up a wound, sew it up, keep it bandaged, etc.
I can amputate a limb (I know how. Never done it.)
I have a vast collection of herbology crap.
And I'll be armed to the teeth when the bullets run out.
Until you break a leg, and go into shock.
The Good Reverend is VERY good at first aid...but has no illusions of what life would be like.
It's all fun and games, until you get a staph infection.
Quote from: The Good Reverend RogerQuote from: Compositus ConfusioQuote from: The Good Reverend RogerQuote from: Compositus ConfusioI am personally hoping for a Dark Age, because then I can build my Mettaur army and rule the world!
Or die of an absessed tooth.
Whichever.
I wouldn't die of an absessed tooth. See, I have a one up on most people today: I can treat alot of things that most people think you need fancy medical attention for.
I can clean up a wound, sew it up, keep it bandaged, etc.
I can amputate a limb (I know how. Never done it.)
I have a vast collection of herbology crap.
And I'll be armed to the teeth when the bullets run out.
Until you break a leg, and go into shock.
The Good Reverend is VERY good at first aid...but has no illusions of what life would be like.
It's all fun and games, until you get a staph infection.
Essence of Garlic. Injected. Into bloodstream.
Besides, the persons I would be with in such an event are like-minded, but much wiser individuals, who are much more trained than I.
And one of them is Pure German.
So I'd be kinda afraid.
Quote from: Compositus ConfusioQuote from: The Good Reverend RogerQuote from: Compositus ConfusioQuote from: The Good Reverend RogerQuote from: Compositus ConfusioI am personally hoping for a Dark Age, because then I can build my Mettaur army and rule the world!
Or die of an absessed tooth.
Whichever.
I wouldn't die of an absessed tooth. See, I have a one up on most people today: I can treat alot of things that most people think you need fancy medical attention for.
I can clean up a wound, sew it up, keep it bandaged, etc.
I can amputate a limb (I know how. Never done it.)
I have a vast collection of herbology crap.
And I'll be armed to the teeth when the bullets run out.
Until you break a leg, and go into shock.
The Good Reverend is VERY good at first aid...but has no illusions of what life would be like.
It's all fun and games, until you get a staph infection.
Essence of Garlic. Injected. Into bloodstream.
Nonsense. Essence of Garlic is NOT a bacteriophage.
Quote from: The Good Reverend RogerQuote from: Compositus ConfusioQuote from: The Good Reverend RogerQuote from: Compositus ConfusioQuote from: The Good Reverend RogerQuote from: Compositus ConfusioI am personally hoping for a Dark Age, because then I can build my Mettaur army and rule the world!
Or die of an absessed tooth.
Whichever.
I wouldn't die of an absessed tooth. See, I have a one up on most people today: I can treat alot of things that most people think you need fancy medical attention for.
I can clean up a wound, sew it up, keep it bandaged, etc.
I can amputate a limb (I know how. Never done it.)
I have a vast collection of herbology crap.
And I'll be armed to the teeth when the bullets run out.
Until you break a leg, and go into shock.
The Good Reverend is VERY good at first aid...but has no illusions of what life would be like.
It's all fun and games, until you get a staph infection.
Essence of Garlic. Injected. Into bloodstream.
Nonsense. Essence of Garlic is NOT a bacteriophage.
Gamers debate the dynamics of life in the dark ages....I think CC has romanticized it a bit.
Quote from: Efrim
Gamers debate the dynamics of life in the dark ages....I think CC has romanticized it a bit.
The best way to imagine it is to think that the director of
Road Warrior was a hopeless optimist.
Quote from: The Good Reverend RogerQuote from: Efrim
Gamers debate the dynamics of life in the dark ages....I think CC has romanticized it a bit.
The best way to imagine it is to think that the director of Road Warrior was a hopeless optimist.
Witch.
You're dead. Have a nice day.
Quote from: The Good Reverend RogerQuote from: Efrim
Gamers debate the dynamics of life in the dark ages....I think CC has romanticized it a bit.
The best way to imagine it is to think that the director of Road Warrior was a hopeless optimist.
You're right about the Garlic bit. It's antifungal. Hm. I guess it's a good thing I keep a Penenillen culture around.
Olive leaf is a natural antibiotic.
Quote from: EfrimQuote from: The Good Reverend RogerQuote from: Efrim
Gamers debate the dynamics of life in the dark ages....I think CC has romanticized it a bit.
The best way to imagine it is to think that the director of Road Warrior was a hopeless optimist.
Witch.
You're dead. Have a nice day.
Yup. That's about the size of it.
Rev Roger,
Is having visions of burning textbooks to stay warm.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
One gives you time to make changes. The other is leading us towards a new dark age.
You decide.
All I can really say is that I disagree with you. At this point, at this level of corruption and utter hopelessness in this country, change could only possibly be created by a second civil war, in which case the result would not be the United States at all.
I must put on this disclaimer, though: this is not really what I believe, it's just an idea I've been turning around in my head, and I decided to put it out there to test reactions.
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomOlive leaf is a natural antibiotic.
But are olive trees native to NA?
Russian Olives grow wild all over the US now.
They're mostly found along river banks, etc.
Quote from: MescalineBananaQuote from: The Good Reverend Roger
One gives you time to make changes. The other is leading us towards a new dark age.
You decide.
All I can really say is that I disagree with you. At this point, at this level of corruption and utter hopelessness in this country, change could only possibly be created by a second civil war, in which case the result would not be the United States at all.
Horseshit. We've made it through FAR worse times than these.
Google "The Anti-Sedition Act of 1918", "James Pierpont Morgan", and "The Sherman Anti-Trust Act, reasons for".
Quote from: Compositus ConfusioQuote from: The Good Reverend RogerQuote from: Efrim
Gamers debate the dynamics of life in the dark ages....I think CC has romanticized it a bit.
The best way to imagine it is to think that the director of Road Warrior was a hopeless optimist.
You're right about the Garlic bit. It's antifungal. Hm. I guess it's a good thing I keep a Penenillen culture around.
And you were going to inject that into your bloodstream?
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomRussian Olives grow wild all over the US now.
They're mostly found along river banks, etc.
Russian Olives aren't the right kind, unless I am very much mistaken. Too much tannic acid.
Probably not.
I'll have to get my books out and take a look.
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomProbably not.
I'll have to get my books out and take a look.
In addition, no antibiotic is universal...for example, erythromicin is great for avian flu-type shit, but useless for blistering staph type infections.
That's true, but in times of emergency you just have to do the best you can.
My father was an evil herbalist.
He used to make us drink cayenne and water, gargle with garlic juice.......all kinds of nasty stuff.
Some of it was blatant nonsense, but a lot of it was helpful.
Personally, I prefer a combination of modern medicine and "natural" cures.
Funny, when this herbal knowledge could have been really useful (the dark ages) you would both be burned as witches for saying even a portion of what you've said here. Being healed was for those who prayed everyday and kept a healthy distance from soap.
Quote from: EfrimFunny, when this herbal knowledge could have been really useful (the dark ages) you would both be burned as witches for saying even a portion of what you've said here. Being healed was for those who prayed everyday and kept a healthy distance from soap.
True, especially since I really
am a witch, huh?
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomQuote from: EfrimFunny, when this herbal knowledge could have been really useful (the dark ages) you would both be burned as witches for saying even a portion of what you've said here. Being healed was for those who prayed everyday and kept a healthy distance from soap.
True, especially since I really am a witch, huh?
No, I think they gave the REAL witches a wide berth.
They mostly burned anyone they thought they could GET AWAY with burning.
:twisted: Thank you.
Quotethe end is ineluctable
That's right ! Impending Doom ! Everyone to the shelters ! Spray for your owls ! See you in afterlife !
I must have slipped sideways into another timeline, 'cause mine is not supposed to end anytime soon. (http://www.watleyreview.com/2003/110403-2.html)
[Edit] Oh, and, toothpaste has been in use since well before Dark Ages. Soap was in use in celtic tribes, even. Ancient Egyptians discovered collyre and its benefits on eye diseases. And most of these people of "before the Industrial Revolution" drank beer because the alcohol in it sterilized the otherwise foul water in it. Thank you for your inattention.
Quote from: namu[Edit] Oh, and, toothpaste has been in use since well before Dark Ages.
Brushing your teeth prevents absesses? :lol:
Who knew?
That's what THEY said. And that voting makes you free, too.
Well, call me delusional....
but while I understand that what come out of any politicians mouth is in all probability horseshit...I like the horseshit comming from the Democrats far more than that comming from the Republicans.
Plus, I've done a little reading about Kerry, and the new guy on the scene, Barack Obama, and I like what I read. Don't ask for paticulars, or for me to explain myself, cause I am notoriously terrible at explaining myself when it comes to such matters.
I didn't like Gore or Lieberman...or Bush and Cheney...so I became a Green last time, in hopes that Nader would be a stand up guy and stick with the Greens even if they lost. Well, they let me down, and Dean and the progressive Democrats caught my eye. I didn't like Kerry at first, but now that I know more about him, I like him. Hell, I even think he has the potential to be a GREAT president.
Like I said, call me delusional. or optimistic....or both.
The Commander
DIA
Don't feel bad, Commander. It's always been en vogue to shit on everyone's parade, and god forbid anyone actually express any kind of hope or optimism!
I agree, btw. Barack Obama, especially, has a promising future. There's a transcript of his DNC 2004 speech here (http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1621509), along with a short commentary on it.
Quote from: The CommanderWell, call me delusional....
but while I understand that what come out of any politicians mouth is in all probability horseshit...I like the horseshit comming from the Democrats far more than that comming from the Republicans.
Plus, I've done a little reading about Kerry, and the new guy on the scene, Barack Obama, and I like what I read. Don't ask for paticulars, or for me to explain myself, cause I am notoriously terrible at explaining myself when it comes to such matters.
I didn't like Gore or Lieberman...or Bush and Cheney...so I became a Green last time, in hopes that Nader would be a stand up guy and stick with the Greens even if they lost. Well, they let me down, and Dean and the progressive Democrats caught my eye. I didn't like Kerry at first, but now that I know more about him, I like him. Hell, I even think he has the potential to be a GREAT president.
Like I said, call me delusional. or optimistic....or both.
The Commander
DIA
You're suffering from Golden Boy syndrome.
As Public Enemy Said:
"Don't - Don't - Don't Believe the Hype!"
I had really liked Dean. Everyone says that scream killed him, but I think it was everyone's excuse to be uncomfortable with him when what really bothered them was his newfangled attitude.
Kerry said one thing I liked, "the United States of America never goes to
war because we want to, we only go to war because we have to."
When Clinton was bombing country after country, I realized that I never
want a President who has not been in combat. It's too easy for these
unbloodied guys to send other people off to die for some political
advantage.
That doesn't mean Kerry will be any good. And that doesn't mean that
the Democrats aren't going to screw people over. It just means that
when the guy (and maybe in 4/8 years, the gal) who gets to decide if
massive numbers of people are going to die for US foreign policy,
somewhere in the process the memory of hell will come to mind
and cause him/her to pause and say, "Is this really necessary?"
Sometimes that's all you can hope for against the machine. A pause
and a reflection.
(BTW Dean got his "attitude" from Eugene McCarthy.)
Quote from: DJRubberduckyI had really liked Dean. Everyone says that scream killed him, but I think it was everyone's excuse to be uncomfortable with him when what really bothered them was his newfangled attitude.
Don't know if you've read Joe Trippi (http://alternet.org/authors/6623/)'s new book, The Revolution Will Not Be Televised (http://www.harpercollins.com/catalog/book_xml.asp?isbn=0060761555), but Alternet (http://alternet.org/) printed an excerpt from it a few weeks ago that I loved. It's available yonder (http://alternet.org/election04/19197/) (I think that's correct usage of "yonder", C&C. Correct me if I'm wrong :))
Quote from: gnimbleyKerry said one thing I liked, "the United States of America never goes to
war because we want to, we only go to war because we have to."
When Clinton was bombing country after country, I realized that I never
want a President who has not been in combat. It's too easy for these
unbloodied guys to send other people off to die for some political
advantage.
That doesn't mean Kerry will be any good. And that doesn't mean that
the Democrats aren't going to screw people over. It just means that
when the guy (and maybe in 4/8 years, the gal) who gets to decide if
massive numbers of people are going to die for US foreign policy,
somewhere in the process the memory of hell will come to mind
and cause him/her to pause and say, "Is this really necessary?"
Sometimes that's all you can hope for against the machine. A pause
and a reflection.
(BTW Dean got his "attitude" from Eugene McCarthy.)
thinks of the different military men that have seen combat and still send others to die for their own political advantage... sure guy.
the question is not wether kerry will escalate the war or not, but rather a matter of how much he will escalate it.
give war a chance.
Quote from: The Good Reverend RogerQuote from: MescalineBananaSo which poison would you rather take? The one which prolongs your suffering, or the one which ends it all with one final gasp?
I would certainly choose the latter.
The end is ineluctable. It is up to us how it comes about.
One gives you time to make changes. The other is leading us towards a new dark age.
You decide.
Well encouraging large corporations to come back onshore whilst getting them to inject money into the economy would help... but if Kerry tries it, the southwest will cap him like they did kennedy, they're probably already afraid he's going to downsize the military and spending, why do you think they're comparing the two? Kerry's interests are in the Industrial States right?
Quote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisThinks of the different military men that have seen combat and still send others to die for their own political advantage... sure guy.
Can you name one (in America)?
Colin Powell.
Quote from: MescalineBananaColin Powell.
I think he was supposedly less
eager to invade Iraq than the
others, but may be misremembering.
Wasn't Bush the First in the Pacific
theatre during WWII?
"Colin Powell."
That is, for your information, a sentence fragment. At least you had the courtesy to capitalize the name of that monkey fucker.
Colin Powell was the least eager to invade Iraq, actually. As I remember Bush made a statement to the effect that Mr. Powell and he disagree very much on the subject.
I will probably vote for a president this year, but it won't matter. I live in Utah, and in Utah it doesn't matter if the presidental candidate is Hitler, he gets the 4 electorals if he's republican!
Damn stupid system we have in America, damn damn damn damn stupid. Yes, I should've put comma's there.
Now Alanis Morissette, theres a babe I would vote for without batting an eyelash...of course she's Canadian, and she's not 35 yet, so I geuss its a moot point. Maybe I should start the Canadian Campaign for Alanis Morissette to become Prime Minister. We need more famous rock/pop stars in major elected offices, that way its more like highschool where the girl who could sing was always class president, or was it that the girl who laid the most football players was always class president? Ahh, who remembers anyway?
Quote from: The Grammar NaziThat is, for your information, a sentence fragment.
Must ... not ... feed ... the ... trolls ...
I thot it wuz speeled : powl.
I had a big long serious post I was going to put out, but I got about halfway through and my computer crashed.
Hail Eris!
The Commander
DIA
Quote from: The CommanderI had a big long serious post I was going to put out, but I got about halfway through and my computer crashed.
Hail Eris!
The Commander
DIA
hey! hey! the commander puts out! woo hoo!
Quote from: MescalineBananaYes. It has, of course, as of late, been my pleasure to need to begrudgingly oblige to vote for Kerry in the face of four more years of Bush. While I don't particularly like Kerry or Edwards, and I believe Democrats and Republicans to be two nearly identical sides of one seriously fucked up coin, there is no doubt in my mind who would do a much better job as president. To describe the situation I use the cliche "Pick your poison." In this case, Kerry seems to be the preferred poison.
But then I was thinking the other day. That's right, I was thinking. And what was I thinking, you may ask? Well, I was thinking that, since they are both poisons, both will kill you. Eventually.
The United States is dying. The poison is in its veins, and the egregious outcome at this point is inevitable.
Bush & Co., along with all the deeds to be performed thereby, are the quick poison which will serve to end the life of this ill and ill-fated country in a very timely fasion, nigh instantly.
Kerry and his band of Republicrats, on the other hand, are the slow-working poison, the poison which slowly, over time, eats away at the insides of the country until This Great Republic, gaunt, passes away, agony etched in its face.
So which poison would you rather take? The one which prolongs your suffering, or the one which ends it all with one final gasp?
I would certainly choose the latter.
The end is ineluctable. It is up to us how it comes about.
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now that's what you'd call ironic.
I don't know much about Colin Powell's opinion on the war in Iraq. He seemed for it when he was talking about WMD in Iraq, but maybe he was just told to do that. What I do know is that he studied Vietnam, and tried to develop a strategy to prevent a Vietnam-situation from happeneing (go in with superior numbers and a good exit-strategy). The rest of the administration ignored him and winged it. He seems like the best human being in the Bush administration, so it's a shame.
my neighbor said that there has never been a general who was president who chose to go to war. this includes polk who said that if people imigrated to texas and mexico tried to push them out, we'd back our guys.. he failed to back them cause he knew it'd lead to war..
guy said the closest we had to a military man who led our nation to was was rosevelt. said he was a "hawk".. but wasn't a general, so that his statement still held true.
of course this guys' name is "dick fink" and his birthday is april 1.
i have no opinion on that.
as to bush and kerry. to me they are the same demon.
i don't know if i'll vote for kerry or nader..
on one hand nader is cool. on the other hand he hasn't got a shot in hell.
as to kerry.. first time i saw him i said "he's going to win the election. he's going to do worse things than bush." don't ask why, just a gut feeling i had. see.. bush is stupid. kerry is smart. smart people can do more damage.
BOOM BABY
good luck.
I feel compelled to point out that I did not say that I wanted a general
for President. (I actually would prefer none, but c'est la vie.) What I
said was I wanted somebody who had been in combat. I want somebody
who was shit in the pants scared. There's a difference.
Quote from: MescalineBananaSo which poison would you rather take? The one which prolongs your suffering, or the one which ends it all with one final gasp?I would certainly choose the latter.
Surprisingly, all the people who have ever had chemotherapy have chosen the poison that prolongs suffering. In fact, if certain weirdy philospher-types are to be believed, anyone who has even eaten has chosen the poison that prolongs suffering.
Kill yourself if you must but please don't burn the fuckers who chose not to follow you.
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Pot calling Kettle
Pot calling Kettle
BLACK BLACK over!!!
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Pot calling Kettle
Pot calling Kettle
BLACK BLACK over!!!
Roger that, Pot.
How's the weather up there?
Over.
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now that's what you'd call ironic.
moreso given who posted it...
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damn. am i going to throw up every morning?
Took It twice... so far