I have been delighted recently with the increasing awareness and popularity of my favorite sociological study of all time, which most of you have almost certainly heard me talk about; I have been calling it the Kruger-Dunning Effect because in the paper's publication, Kruger got top billing, but recently it's been remonikered the Dunning-Kruger Effect, because evidently Dunning was the advisor and Kruger was the grad student. I find the re-ordering of the authors' names dubious, though, as IMO they should remain in the original publication order. Regardless, here is an article and interview with David Dunning and it is kind of wonderful:
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/20/the-anosognosics-dilemma-1/
Here's the original paper: http://www.wepapers.com/Papers/70939/Unskilled_and_Unaware_of_It_-_How_Difficulties_in_Recognizing_One's_Own_Incompetence_Lead_to_Inflated_Self-Assessments
OH WOW
Speaking of which: http://www.thinkgeek.com/blog/2010/06/officially-our-bestever-cease.html
Our engineer suffers from that. We are considering stuffing him in the digestor (every workplace should have machines named "digestor" or "disintegrator"), once a means of jamming his considerable bulk into the manway of the tank has been established.
Quote from: Nigel on June 22, 2010, 06:36:48 PM
OH WOW
Speaking of which: http://www.thinkgeek.com/blog/2010/06/officially-our-bestever-cease.html
Please expost...Websense.
ah yes, the article supporting the idea that if you're a bad enough dancer, you lack the meta cognitive skills to comprehend how awful you look.
In some circles this is called the Cramulus effect.
Quote from: Cramulus on June 22, 2010, 06:51:41 PM
ah yes, the article supporting the idea that if you're a bad enough dancer, you lack the meta cognitive skills to comprehend how awful you look.
In some circles this is called the Cramulus effect.
:lulz:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 22, 2010, 06:49:08 PM
Our engineer suffers from that. We are considering stuffing him in the digestor (every workplace should have machines named "digestor" or "disintegrator"), once a means of jamming his considerable bulk into the manway of the tank has been established.
Wood chipper. With the proper settings, they'll pass a camel through the eye of a needle.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 22, 2010, 06:49:30 PM
Quote from: Nigel on June 22, 2010, 06:36:48 PM
OH WOW
Speaking of which: http://www.thinkgeek.com/blog/2010/06/officially-our-bestever-cease.html
Please expost...Websense.
QuoteJune 21, 2010
By CARRIE
OFFICIALLY OUR BEST-EVER CEASE AND DESIST
Recently we got the best-ever cease and desist letter. We're no stranger to the genre, so what could possibly make this one stand out from the rest?
First, it's 12 pages long and very well-researched (except on one point); it even includes screengrabs of the offending item from our site. And we know they're not messing around because they invested in the best and brightest legal minds.
But what makes this cease and desist so very, very special is that it's for a fake product we launched for April Fool's day.
It wasn't the iCade, or the Dharma Initiative Clock, or even the Tribbles 'n' Bits Breakfast Cereal.
No, it was the Canned Unicorn Meat.
The very special but also very real letter is from the National Pork Board, who claims we're infringing on the slogan "The Other White Meat," a slogan they're apparently thinking about phasing out anyways. A screengrab of the product page is below.
(http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/blog/unicornmeat.jpg)
Luckily, the Sisters at Radiant Farms, where the unicorns are nursed through old age before being slaughtered, canned, and brought to market at ThinkGeek, have nothing to worry about--this kind of use is protected as a parody. (We're hoping the NPB doesn't tell the Sisters that unicorns don't actually exist; it'd break their little sparkly hearts.)
Here, in all its porky glory, is the first page of the letter:
(http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/blog/npbfax.jpg)
We'd like to publicly apologize to the NPB for the confusion over unicorn and pork--and for their awkward extended pause on the phone after we had explained our unicorn meat doesn't actually exist. From our press release [PDF or text]:
"It was never our intention to cause a national crisis and misguide American citizens regarding the differences between the pig and the unicorn," said Scott Kauffman, President and CEO of Geeknet. "In fact, ThinkGeek's canned unicorn meat is sparkly, a bit red, and not approved by any government entity."
We'd also like to extend a special discount to everyone we offended with our portrayal of Unicorn Meat as "the new white meat." For a limited time, take $10 off any order of $40 or more by using the code PORKBOARD at checkout, good until 6/30/2010 at 11:59PM ET.
The PORKBOARD discount is good on any ThinkGeek product, but you might want to check out shirts like Periodic BaCoN or Prime Cuts of Unicorn. There's also the popular Tactical Bacon or really anything from our entire line of pork-inspired products. Note: Please excuse the Zombies in the Bacon special interest section, we like to mix our meats.
Finally, thanks, National Pork Board, for giving us yet another reason to keep the April Fool's Day tradition alive. We'll always wonder if our Canned Unicorn Meat played some small, magical part in your rethinking of your brand.
UPDATE 6/21 2:50p ET: Due to popular request, and after some interest on the intarwebz, you can now download our original press release [PDF or text]. It was unfortunately rejected by the newswires so you won't find it elsewhere--kinda like unicorn meat.
I peed a little.
I love the Dunning-Kruger effect, and by "love" I mean it makes me want to punch babies.
But, I do find it interesting that everybody puts their skill in the third quartile, irregardless of actual ability.
This is exaclty what I've been thinking of when I mention "Blind spots" in our self view / metacognition.
Quote from: Richter on June 22, 2010, 07:18:44 PM
This is exaclty what I've been thinking of when I mention "Blind spots" in our self view / metacognition.
I have no blind spots, at least that I can see.
This may go a long way for philosophy! Fascinating!
BTW Nigel I can't help but read any post you make in Nigel Ficke's voice, with that lollipop-nursing demigod standing right behind every one of them.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 22, 2010, 07:28:51 PM
Quote from: Richter on June 22, 2010, 07:18:44 PM
This is exaclty what I've been thinking of when I mention "Blind spots" in our self view / metacognition.
I have no blind spots, at least that I can see.
I see what you did there.
Quote from: Professor Freeky on June 22, 2010, 07:58:33 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 22, 2010, 07:28:51 PM
Quote from: Richter on June 22, 2010, 07:18:44 PM
This is exaclty what I've been thinking of when I mention "Blind spots" in our self view / metacognition.
I have no blind spots, at least that I can see.
I see what you did there.
Arguably, you didn't.
What the hell am I looking at here?
Quote from: LMNO on June 22, 2010, 08:02:05 PM
What the hell am I looking at here?
Don't know. You're in the way.
Dammit, I just got eaten by a grue.
Quote from: LMNO on June 22, 2010, 08:18:07 PM
Dammit, I just got eaten by a grue.
Nobody ever sees that com
It fucks with your head. I've heard people discuss traits in others and suddenly pull a "WTF, I do that too." Makes you wonder how many peope act out of sort just ebcause they never clued in better. Also brings to mind my autistic buddy who has learned a lot of interaction protocol by rote. It's facinating to talk over interpersonal situations or office politik with him, since you can work with the details as if they were for a RPG, or how to program an alarm clock.
What I took away from the KD effect: The brain is your enemy, it wants to trick you into acting like a lifeform. It must be subverted.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 22, 2010, 07:28:51 PM
Quote from: Richter on June 22, 2010, 07:18:44 PM
This is exaclty what I've been thinking of when I mention "Blind spots" in our self view / metacognition.
I have no blind spots, at least that I can see.
:mittens:
Quote from: Zyzyx on June 22, 2010, 07:56:00 PM
This may go a long way for philosophy! Fascinating!
BTW Nigel I can't help but read any post you make in Nigel Ficke's voice, with that lollipop-nursing demigod standing right behind every one of them.
This makes me incredibly happy, and also makes me need to go watch the video again.