McArdle, the Ayn Rand for people with short attention spans, is suggesting that tipping be replaced because it is "economically inefficient".
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2010/06/lets-abolish-tipping/58150/#disqus_thread
That in and of itself is why libertarians never get invited to parties, but not so bad on it's own. But I know for a fact McArdle's commenters are a mix between Freepers and Objectivist loons, and that thread will have descended into "being socially pressured to tip people is more proof of the INSIDIOUS STATIST AGENDA" etc etc
Who wants to dive into the cesspool first?
Sure. Abolish tipping, I'm cool with that.
...But I want to be paid nothing LESS than $12/hr on a weekday and $20/hr on a weekend night.
Quote from: Suu on June 23, 2010, 12:39:56 PM
Sure. Abolish tipping, I'm cool with that.
...But I want to be paid nothing LESS than $12$20/hr on a weekday and $20$45/hr on a weekend night.
Fixxered that for you. That was about my average when I was waiting tables. It lessens somewhat if the restaurant doesn't serve alcohol. On a good Sunday at the Beach Club in Naples, I could walk off shift with an easy grand or more in tips. Drunk people and sun make for really great tippers.
Yeah, I clock about $25/hr just in tips on the days I have to cover the daytime bartending shift, and that's about half of what the evening bartenders pull in. No tips? Sure. My minimum hourly rate for a service position just went to $35/hr. That's even more than I make as a chef so I guess I'm all for it.
I have to say, it's pretty damn convenient when I'm with a group of 6 or more people and the tip is included.
However, since I usually tip 20%, setting a standard fee will probably be cheaper for me.
Here's a comment for ECH:
Quote"First of all, the role of a cook is more like assembly line work than customer service."
Quote from: LMNO on June 23, 2010, 02:35:42 PM
Here's a comment for ECH:
Quote"First of all, the role of a bad cook is more like assembly line work than customer service."
FIXT! :argh!:
Abolishing tipping really penalizes the establishment owners, because then they are paying a higher hourly wage regardless of how business is going. Stupid Libertarians don't even understand a system which evolved as it did to favor business owners. What a pack of dipshits.
The closest thing to an equivalent system would be instituting daily profit-sharing, where the menu items cost 20% more, and the restaurant pays out the staff at the end of the day based on sales. The big winner here would be the government.
This modern bizzaro-libertarian stuff makes my head :asplode:
Quote from: LMNO on June 23, 2010, 02:35:42 PM
Here's a comment for ECH:
Quote"First of all, the role of a cook is more like assembly line work than customer service."
OH NO HE DI'INT!!!
:walken:
Rule #1: Never insult the guy who makes your food and knows where all of the sharp knives are located.
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on June 23, 2010, 09:30:49 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 23, 2010, 02:35:42 PM
Here's a comment for ECH:
Quote"First of all, the role of a cook is more like assembly line work than customer service."
OH NO HE DI'INT!!!
:walken:
Rule #1: Never insult the guy who makes your food and knows where all of the sharp knives body fluids and rat droppings are located.
FIXT
Quote from: LMNO on June 23, 2010, 02:35:42 PM
Here's a comment for ECH:
Quote"First of all, the role of a cook is more like assembly line work than customer service."
ITT I was speaking as a part-time bartender. I've been working some of the daytime bar shifts on my "days off" and days I don't need to be back in the kitchen until late afternoon.
Quote from: LMNO on June 23, 2010, 02:35:42 PM
Here's a comment for ECH:
Quote"First of all, the role of a cook office slave is more like assembly line work than customer service."
Fixed. Because we know all of these randroids are in tech support or have MBAs.
If I get good service I want to tip, and well. We spent $72 today at Olive Garden and I evened it up to $100 with the tip. We had a great and personable server who went out of her way to make our visit a pleasant one. I we get an average server then they get an average tip.
Servers and bartenders love working for tips because it's cash money every day and they only need to report so much of it as income.
Quote from: LMNO on June 23, 2010, 02:35:42 PM
Here's a comment for ECH:
Quote"First of all, the role of a cook is more like assembly line work than customer service."
also, for the most part this quote is totally true, and I see no reason why it should be insulting. Unless you're the head chef at a place where schmoozing is required, you're not gonna be interacting with the customers much, except when they get all "groupie" on you after their dinner.
:ECH:
I'm not even sure what that comment is supposed to mean. What does the role of a chef in customer service have to do with whether servers are tipped? :?
Because free markets, non-initiation of aggression, rational self-interest and combating statism.
I mean, duh.