http://www.king5.com/news/BLINDING-LASER-BEAM-NEWEST-POLICE-TOOL-98973794.html
One of the newest and most unusual less-than-lethal weapons to hit the market is the "Dazer Laser." It's a powerful laser gun that can temporarily blind and disorient a suspect with a large modulating pool of green light.
"If you can impair their vision where they can't effectively target or locate you, you're controlling them, you have those couple seconds you need, which in law enforcement is a year," said Ryan Battis, who demonstrates the weapons to police departments for Laser Energetics, Inc. of New Jersey.
The promoters claim the lasers are effective day or night, and are designed to be effective anywhere from 3 feet to a mile-and-a-half away from a suspect - without causing eye damage.
This will end well.
From IRC
<Fred>: do they work if you wear mirrored sunglasses
<Hawk>: methinks you may be an evil person
Finally an excuse to wear sunglasses at night.
I want one.
Strictly for recreational purposes of course.
Quote from: Doktor Charley Brown on July 26, 2010, 01:06:26 AM
The promoters claim the lasers are effective day or night, and are designed to be effective anywhere from 3 feet to a mile-and-a-half away from a suspect - without causing eye damage.
Yet, they mention nothing about cancer. :crankey:
I am sure that these new weapons tools will be used with the same restraint as Tasers have been.
Just wait till they start using on people who are driving
:lulz:
Seriously
Okay partner, the riot is about a mile and a half away. This is the perfect time to use our space man weapons on them.
Okay, nobody mention we caused that car crash.
I imagine the mile and a half range would work in say, Kansas. What about the rest of the country that has hills and shit?
Quote from: RWHN on July 26, 2010, 01:22:05 PM
I imagine the mile and a half range would work in say, Kansas. What about the rest of the country that has hills and shit?
Helicopters.
Quote from: Count on July 26, 2010, 05:01:24 PM
So how accurate and safe is a bloody flash of light going to be from a mile and a half away?
So, you love criminals, do you?
It's info like this that makes me hate people. I mean REALLY hate people. Sigh.
Jenne,
Hates People But Loves Criminals (well, ONE of them, anyway)
Never met a criminal I didn't like.
Quote from: Sigmatic on July 26, 2010, 05:08:01 PM
Never met a criminal I didn't like.
Try working at a jail.
:lol: No.
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on July 26, 2010, 05:13:11 PM
Quote from: Jenne on July 26, 2010, 05:11:02 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on July 26, 2010, 05:08:48 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on July 26, 2010, 05:08:01 PM
Never met a criminal I didn't like.
Try working at a jail.
NO ONE at a jail is likable. Just saying.
With you 100%, myself included.
Nah, I bet OUTSIDE the jail, you're just ducky.
It's the "in the jail," all workers included, that's the rub.
Hey, check this out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xASD_eNE4VU
btw, fwiw, lazer dazer is a ghey name. Sounds like one of those cheezy carnival rides.
thread related:
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=22375.msg758576#msg758576
make your own nausea inducing flashlight for under $250
http://boingboing.net/2009/09/28/make-your-own-1-mill.html
Quote from: Sigmatic on July 26, 2010, 05:18:56 PM
Hey, check this out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xASD_eNE4VU
LOL, all the targets are wearing sunglasses. HINT.
Quote from: Jenne on July 26, 2010, 05:15:17 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on July 26, 2010, 05:13:11 PM
Quote from: Jenne on July 26, 2010, 05:11:02 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on July 26, 2010, 05:08:48 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on July 26, 2010, 05:08:01 PM
Never met a criminal I didn't like.
Try working at a jail.
NO ONE at a jail is likable. Just saying.
With you 100%, myself included.
Nah, I bet OUTSIDE the jail, you're just ducky.
It's the "in the jail," all workers included, that's the rub.
I'm fortunate in that I don't work directly inside the facility - I have a nice little separate building with a tv and I can bring books and things in, so I can, even while working at a jail, be relatively decent. The problem is that every single other person you interact with is absolutely miserable and rightly so. The COs are miserable for being in that setting, the caseworkers are miserable for not seeing a difference, the mental health staff is miserable for dealing with false claims to score meds, the nursing staff is miserable for the risk they're in.
Not to threadjack, Jenne, but I read your write up of trying to get someone in there to help you when you needed something done for your father. I'm the guy you spoke with on the other end of the phone trying my damnedest to get you the hell off the line. I even had that almost exact situation arise around the time you did. It sucks. There's nothing I personally can do in my position other than direct the call to the proper place. But it's busy at the proper places and I can't just send everyone through to the guy in charge every time. Even if it's necessary, that person might just not be available. And it becomes the boy who cried wolf; everyone thinks they have some great reason to be given special treatment, mostly trying to manipulate the system. Then when someone like you has a legitimate need for assistance we're choked with so much other bullshit. So for my part in your nightmare experiences, I am sorry.
Funny thing is, my job is pretty sweet. I don't get hassled a whole lot, I'm relatively autonomous on my shift, I can do whatever I want during my free time, and the benefits are great. I just don't know how much longer I can work there because of what it is.
Again, I don't mean to bring all manner of seriousness in this thread, but that's been on my mind off and on since I read about your fiasco and I can't remember if I ever said it.
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on July 26, 2010, 05:31:29 PM
Quote from: Jenne on July 26, 2010, 05:15:17 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on July 26, 2010, 05:13:11 PM
Quote from: Jenne on July 26, 2010, 05:11:02 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on July 26, 2010, 05:08:48 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on July 26, 2010, 05:08:01 PM
Never met a criminal I didn't like.
Try working at a jail.
NO ONE at a jail is likable. Just saying.
With you 100%, myself included.
Nah, I bet OUTSIDE the jail, you're just ducky.
It's the "in the jail," all workers included, that's the rub.
I'm fortunate in that I don't work directly inside the facility - I have a nice little separate building with a tv and I can bring books and things in, so I can, even while working at a jail, be relatively decent. The problem is that every single other person you interact with is absolutely miserable and rightly so. The COs are miserable for being in that setting, the caseworkers are miserable for not seeing a difference, the mental health staff is miserable for dealing with false claims to score meds, the nursing staff is miserable for the risk they're in.
Not to threadjack, Jenne, but I read your write up of trying to get someone in there to help you when you needed something done for your father. I'm the guy you spoke with on the other end of the phone trying my damnedest to get you the hell off the line. I even had that almost exact situation arise around the time you did. It sucks. There's nothing I personally can do in my position other than direct the call to the proper place. But it's busy at the proper places and I can't just send everyone through to the guy in charge every time. Even if it's necessary, that person might just not be available. And it becomes the boy who cried wolf; everyone thinks they have some great reason to be given special treatment, mostly trying to manipulate the system. Then when someone like you has a legitimate need for assistance we're choked with so much other bullshit. So for my part in your nightmare experiences, I am sorry.
Funny thing is, my job is pretty sweet. I don't get hassled a whole lot, I'm relatively autonomous on my shift, I can do whatever I want during my free time, and the benefits are great. I just don't know how much longer I can work there because of what it is.
Again, I don't mean to bring all manner of seriousness in this thread, but that's been on my mind off and on since I read about your fiasco and I can't remember if I ever said it.
Yeah, I know when I make known my own personal issues with the jails, their workers, and how they're run, I risk that someone else has a different point of view. It's come up before with Cram because he has a friend who's a cop. But I do caveat that my experiences, though my own, rarely differ from others'. I have had guys who work in those places tell me, "Yes, ma'am, it's shit, we know it, but can't/won't do anything about it."
I feel your pain, EoC, because it's a prodigious nightmare, and a ponderous chain of bureaucracy as well. Couple that with the general attitude of "this is jail/prison, you get the pain you deserve" that's pretty prevalent, even aside from all the usual abuse of power, etc. that can happen, and yeah, you got a formula for disaster. There are always going to be decent people working shitty jobs, and always going to be shitty people working decent jobs. I totally allow for that.
Luckily, my dad HAS had some breaks. But he also works the system and milks it for every milliounce he can get, too.
So no worries, dude. I didn't mean to poke ya, even with my little quirks about the police, the legal system, and those in between. Of course, I am sure the more my dad shares with us about his general humiliation and hard times/what he's seen in there when he comes out, the more my rage will boil. But suffice it to say I'm GLAD there are awesome people in the system like YOU, EoC...people who actually aren't jaded within an inch of their lives into not giving a shit about the people they work under, for and sometimes against.
Quote from: Count on July 26, 2010, 05:17:29 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 26, 2010, 05:01:59 PM
Quote from: Count on July 26, 2010, 05:01:24 PM
So how accurate and safe is a bloody flash of light going to be from a mile and a half away?
So, you love criminals, do you?
I'm not an expert, so correct me if I'm wrong, but the phrase "Large pool of light" makes me unsure that anyone else in that mile and a half is going to be safe, and as Sig said: drivers.
So, yeah. You're soft on crime. You want to let rapists run free, and muggers can beat up old ladies for all you care, right? Fucking hippie.
Also: two of my OWN relatives (my dad's older sister and her son) were prison guards, once upon a time. I have gotten their perspectives as well (which, interestingly enough, don't vary much from my own...).
So who wants to start making bets on how long it'll take law enforcement officials to figure out how to kill teenagers/seniors with this thing?
I already have an idea or two.
Quote from: dimo on July 26, 2010, 06:37:51 PM
So who wants to start making bets on how long it'll take law enforcement officials to figure out how to kill teenagers/seniors five year olds with this thing?
Yeah, it's that bad. Society sucketh, as it ever has.
/Debbie Downer today
Quote from: Sigmatic on July 26, 2010, 06:39:07 PM
I already have an idea or two.
Well, good. It's high time someone put those young hoodlums in their place.
If we left things to Count, we'd be up to our arses in drug-addled rapists, because HE doesn't want to give the police the tools they desperately NEED, to keep these young barbarians in check.
I just want one to flash at low flying helicopter pilots.
Quote from: Doktor Charley Brown on July 26, 2010, 06:42:35 PM
I just want one to flash at low flying helicopter pilots.
They have a cell with your name ALL OVER IT, terrorist-kisser!
Fuck yeah.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 26, 2010, 06:40:50 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on July 26, 2010, 06:39:07 PM
I already have an idea or two.
Well, good. It's high time someone put those young hoodlums in their place.
If we left things to Count, we'd be up to our arses in drug-addled rapists, because HE doesn't want to give the police the tools they desperately NEED, to keep these young barbarians in check.
They're at the gates, constant vigilance is the bare minimum. To keep all the smudgy peoples from raping and killing us all.
We demand it.
Quote from: Sigmatic on July 26, 2010, 06:47:01 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 26, 2010, 06:40:50 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on July 26, 2010, 06:39:07 PM
I already have an idea or two.
Well, good. It's high time someone put those young hoodlums in their place.
If we left things to Count, we'd be up to our arses in drug-addled rapists, because HE doesn't want to give the police the tools they desperately NEED, to keep these young barbarians in check.
They're at the gates, constant vigilance is the bare minimum. To keep all the smudgy peoples from raping and killing us all.
We demand it.
You, sir, are a fine American, unlike the rest of these hippie agitators. Why, if I had MY way, the whole lot of them would be packed off to some unfurnished country, where they'd be taught some fucking
respect.
And by respect, we mean 'bastinadoes'.
Quote from: Sigmatic on July 26, 2010, 06:50:18 PM
And by respect, we mean 'bastinadoes'.
Fuck yeah. Pliers and blowtorches, that's what cures hippies.
If that's your concern, you're right. What we need is rooftop snipers on every roof, so that no-good PCP abusers who want to eat our cars can be put down nice and quiet.
Quote from: Sigmatic on July 26, 2010, 09:59:33 PM
If that's your concern, you're right. What we need is rooftop snipers on every roof, so that no-good PCP abusers who want to eat our cars can be put down nice and quiet.
Wut?
:apple:
Quote from: Sigmatic on July 26, 2010, 09:59:33 PM
If that's your concern, you're right. What we need is rooftop snipers on every roof, so that no-good PCP abusers who want to eat our cars can be put down nice and quiet.
On a serious note WTF?
I can't respond seriously, since I was saying it out of absurdity, for the purpose of satire. Joke over.
Quote from: Rumckle on July 26, 2010, 01:53:49 AM
Finally an excuse to wear sunglasses at night.
You don't need one, people have been wearing them at night since the 80s in order to keep track of visions in their eyes.
Seriously, I wouldn't switch the blade on the guy in shades, oh no.
I want to get a dozen of these and rig them up in a disco ball style distributor that I can put on the street outside my house. If that doesn't get ride of the kids the tesla coil and the claymore mines will surely work.
Quote from: Doktor Charley Brown on July 26, 2010, 11:53:13 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on July 26, 2010, 09:59:33 PM
If that's your concern, you're right. What we need is rooftop snipers on every roof, so that no-good PCP abusers who want to eat our cars can be put down nice and quiet.
On a serious note WTF?
Um
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 27, 2010, 12:59:55 AM
Quote from: Doktor Charley Brown on July 26, 2010, 11:53:13 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on July 26, 2010, 09:59:33 PM
If that's your concern, you're right. What we need is rooftop snipers on every roof, so that no-good PCP abusers who want to eat our cars can be put down nice and quiet.
On a serious note WTF?
Um
What?
Quote from: Doktor Charley Brown on July 27, 2010, 01:31:59 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 27, 2010, 12:59:55 AM
Quote from: Doktor Charley Brown on July 26, 2010, 11:53:13 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on July 26, 2010, 09:59:33 PM
If that's your concern, you're right. What we need is rooftop snipers on every roof, so that no-good PCP abusers who want to eat our cars can be put down nice and quiet.
On a serious note WTF?
Um
What?
On a serious note, I think he was joking.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 27, 2010, 01:46:17 AM
Quote from: Doktor Charley Brown on July 27, 2010, 01:31:59 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 27, 2010, 12:59:55 AM
Quote from: Doktor Charley Brown on July 26, 2010, 11:53:13 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on July 26, 2010, 09:59:33 PM
If that's your concern, you're right. What we need is rooftop snipers on every roof, so that no-good PCP abusers who want to eat our cars can be put down nice and quiet.
On a serious note WTF?
Um
What?
On a serious note, I think he was joking.
Shit. I fail.
"Eat our cars" was your free hint. :lulz: