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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: Dimocritus on July 28, 2010, 04:03:52 PM

Title: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Dimocritus on July 28, 2010, 04:03:52 PM
We're playing a show this weekend, and I had an interesting idea for an "activity" to bring a little more "fun" into the pit. I'm going to bring a stack of approx. 32 sealed envelopes and hand them out to select people/strangers with the instructions to NOT open the envelope until I give the word. Now, each envelope is going to contain a slip of paper with a simple instruction typed on it, and three or four songs into our set, I'm going to tell everyone that received an envelope to open it and read it to themselves, and when the song starts, perform the action written inside.

I have a couple ideas for some actions, such as "put your palms together over your head and jump up and down," "Give the person to your right a noogie," Give the person to your left a hug," "put your arms satraight out and spin in a circle" and I'm most likely going to have one that is actually a complex sereis of instructions designed to simply confuse the reader.

BUT, I need about 17 more actions, and I figured, hey, what better people to ask for suggestions.

So, have at it.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: LMNO on July 28, 2010, 04:06:34 PM
Have one that says, "I told you not to open it before I said so."

At a punk show, there's a pretty good chance that would work.

Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Zyzyx on July 28, 2010, 04:13:36 PM
"Start the can-can in your row"

"Do the truffle shuffle"

"Go get a beer, drink it"

For the record this thread attracted my attention when I saw the 'latest post' as "So, here's what imma" and thought we were going to immanentize the eschaton.  :evil:
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Cramulus on July 28, 2010, 04:15:42 PM
great idea!

similar project, check out the mp3 experiment:

http://improveverywhere.com/2004/12/11/the-mp3-experiment/



they did three  (http://improveverywhere.com/2006/06/17/the-mp3-experiment-iii/)of these things




Dance as crazy as possible


Read the following out loud, over and over again: THIS IS THE BEST FUCKING SHOW I'VE EVER BEEN TO.


Put your thumb up in the air. Somebody else has this same message. Find the other person with their thumb in the air. This is your partner for the night.


Quick! Hand this note to somebody else! Now!


Sing along with the music. I know you don't know the words, just make shit up.



Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Cramulus on July 28, 2010, 04:21:39 PM
Read the following out loud, over and over again: <a bunch of wingdings>


In the break between songs, hug strangers


Do the Paraplegic Dance. That is, dance like you are handicapped.


High five as many people as possible. Somebody else has this note too. Find that guy and see who high fived more people.


Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Dimocritus on July 28, 2010, 04:22:21 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on July 28, 2010, 04:06:34 PM
Have one that says, "I told you not to open it before I said so."

At a punk show, there's a pretty good chance that would work.



True...

Quote from: Cramulus on July 28, 2010, 04:15:42 PM
great idea!

similar project, check out the mp3 experiment:

http://improveverywhere.com/2004/12/11/the-mp3-experiment/



they did three  (http://improveverywhere.com/2006/06/17/the-mp3-experiment-iii/)of these things




Dance as crazy as possible


Read the following out loud, over and over again: THIS IS THE BEST FUCKING SHOW I'VE EVER BEEN TO.


Put your thumb up in the air. Somebody else has this same message. Find the other person with their thumb in the air. This is your partner for the night.


Quick! Hand this note to somebody else! Now!


Sing along with the music. I know you don't know the words, just make shit up.





I love you, Cram.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: LMNO on July 28, 2010, 04:28:59 PM
"It is now time for NO PANTS."
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Dimocritus on July 28, 2010, 04:29:54 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on July 28, 2010, 04:28:59 PM
"It is now time for NO PANTS."

YES!
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: LMNO on July 28, 2010, 04:31:12 PM
You could really be evil and have one that says, "You must do the Electric Slide for the next three songs."
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Dimocritus on July 28, 2010, 04:32:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on July 28, 2010, 04:31:12 PM
You could really be evil and have one that says, "You must do the Electric Slide for the next three songs."

I also love you, Alphapance.

Any chance you can make it down on Friday?
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: LMNO on July 28, 2010, 04:39:39 PM
Got a friend from Philly coming in, we're gonna do some recording in my studio (i.e. the back room of my condo).  Sorry 'bout that.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 28, 2010, 04:40:22 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on July 28, 2010, 04:39:39 PM
Got a friend from Philly coming in, we're gonna do some recording in my studio (i.e. the back room of my condo).  Sorry 'bout that.

I take it this will have an effect on the neighbors?
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: LMNO on July 28, 2010, 04:43:17 PM
There may be a higher-than-normal average of grown men shitting themselves, yes.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Jenne on July 28, 2010, 04:43:55 PM
"Run from room screaming at the top of your lungs.  Then come back in and sit quietly in your chair, keeping your eyes locked on the band for the rest of the set."

"Buy your neighbor a drink, tell them it's from the man across the room."

"Get up from your chair, run around it five times, sit back down and pant like a dog for 10 seconds."

"Do the Hokey Pokey to one whole song in the set."

"Ask your neighbor to demonstrate one hand clapping."

...
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 28, 2010, 04:45:46 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on July 28, 2010, 04:43:17 PM
There may be a higher-than-normal average of grown men shitting themselves, yes.

Then the Doktor approves.  I have found that neighbors are usually bad people, and need to be punished.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 28, 2010, 04:46:24 PM
Quote from: Jenne on July 28, 2010, 04:43:55 PM
"Run from room screaming at the top of your lungs.  Then come back in and sit quietly in your chair, keeping your eyes locked on the band for the rest of the set."

"Buy your neighbor a drink, tell them it's from the man across the room."

"Get up from your chair, run around it five times, sit back down and pant like a dog for 10 seconds."

"Do the Hokey Pokey to one whole song in the set."

"Ask your neighbor to demonstrate one hand clapping."

...

Bellow out "LORD HAVE MERCY, I'VE SHAT MY PANTS!"
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Dimocritus on July 28, 2010, 04:51:11 PM
These are some great ideas! Imma try to get a vid posted if all goes according to plan. Mwahaha...
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Pæs on July 28, 2010, 04:57:34 PM
"Stand there looking like you've got a really embarrassing task and there is no way you are going to do it. Pointedly avoid eye contact with the others in the audience who will notice and be mad at you for not playing the game."
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: AFK on July 28, 2010, 06:06:30 PM
Proclaim your love of Celine Dion to the people around you. 
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: LMNO on July 28, 2010, 06:07:49 PM
Quote from: Ferka Zarco on July 28, 2010, 04:57:34 PM
"Stand there looking like you've got a really embarrassing task and there is no way you are going to do it. Pointedly avoid eye contact with the others in the audience who will notice and be mad at you for not playing the game."

:mittens:

Also,


"Cross your arms, stand still, and act aloof and too cool for any of this bullshit."



(Note to anyone not in New England: The above action is the default behavior of everyone who goes to a local live show around here.  The point is to ask them to behave exactly as they normally would, which may cause a disconnect.)
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: AFK on July 28, 2010, 06:11:10 PM
That is so true.

RWHN,
-one of those people
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Doktor Howl on July 28, 2010, 06:12:18 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on July 28, 2010, 06:07:49 PM
Quote from: Ferka Zarco on July 28, 2010, 04:57:34 PM
"Stand there looking like you've got a really embarrassing task and there is no way you are going to do it. Pointedly avoid eye contact with the others in the audience who will notice and be mad at you for not playing the game."

:mittens:

Also,


"Cross your arms, stand still, and act aloof and too cool for any of this bullshit."



(Note to anyone not in New England: The above action is the default behavior of everyone who goes to a local live show around here.  The point is to ask them to behave exactly as they normally would, which may cause a disconnect.)

Heh.  When I was at the horrible hipster joint we went to, to watch GS and his band play, that sort of thing had me on the edge of pointless violence.  Thankfully, I was too jetlagged to do anything about it.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: LMNO on July 28, 2010, 06:16:09 PM
Heh.  "Act normally.  Make sure everyone notices how normal you're acting" might be a fun one as well.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Adios on July 28, 2010, 06:22:31 PM
SHOW ME YOUR TITS

Selectively hand this one out.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Jasper on July 28, 2010, 06:28:59 PM
"crumple this note up, throw it at the stage, shake your head no, act afraid.  Tell no one what the note says."
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: LMNO on July 28, 2010, 06:33:15 PM
"Punch the singer in the face."
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Jasper on July 28, 2010, 06:35:53 PM
Good one.

Another one would be, if you could swing it, "Show this note to the bartender, and they will start to pour you drinks.  If you finish fast enough you get another.  On the house."
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: AFK on July 28, 2010, 06:39:44 PM
"Shout out a request for The Black Parade."
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Pæs on July 28, 2010, 06:42:51 PM
On one side of the room "Get as many people as you can to do 'The Time Warp'. Spread the word."
On the other, "Get as many people as you can do the 'Thriller' dance. Spread the word."

And watch the people in the middle have to choose teams.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Dimocritus on July 28, 2010, 07:22:17 PM
Haha! These are all awesome! I may have to pass out more envelopes than I planned!
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Dimocritus on July 30, 2010, 06:37:45 PM
This is the final list of actions. Hopefully, people play along and I can get someone to record it  :evil:


put your palms together over your head and jump up and down.


Give the person to your right a noogie


Give the person to your left a hug


put your arms straight out and spin in a circle


Read the following out loud, over and over again: THIS IS THE BEST FUCKING SHOW I'VE EVER BEEN TO.


Put your thumb up in the air. Somebody else has this same message. Find the other person with their thumb in the air. This is your partner for the night.

Put your thumb up in the air. Somebody else has this same message. Find the other person with their thumb in the air. This is your partner for the night.

Sing along with the music. I know you don't know the words, just make shit up.


Do the Paraplegic Dance. That is, dance like you are handicapped.


High five as many people as possible. Somebody else has this note too. Find that guy and see who high fived more people.


High five as many people as possible. Somebody else has this note too. Find that guy and see who high fived more people.


Remove your pants.


do the Electric Slide


Bellow out "LORD HAVE MERCY, I'VE SHAT MY PANTS!"


Do the Hokey Pokey

Run from room screaming at the top of your lungs.  Then come back in quietly, keeping your eyes locked on the floor.


Stand there looking like you've got a really embarrassing task and there is no way you are going to do it. Pointedly avoid eye contact with the others in the audience who will notice and be mad at you for not playing the game


Cross your arms, stand still, and act aloof and too cool for any of this bullshit


Act normally.  Make sure everyone notices how normal you're acting


SHOW ME YOUR TITS


crumple this note up, throw it at the stage, shake your head no, act afraid.  Tell no one what the note says


Punch the bass player in the balls


do 'The Time Warp.' Then, do it again.


do the 'Thriller' dance


Run in circles.


Jump on stage and shout: "Viva la revolution!"


Cannon ball off the stage.


Goose-step around the parameter of the pit.


Slap five random strangers in the ass.


Trade notes with the person next to you and do that action instead. Tell the person that you trade notes with that they just got served.


Curl up in the fetal position in the center of the floor.


Give five random people tittie-twisters.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Jenne on July 30, 2010, 07:37:48 PM
Good luck, Cap'n.  Record and share results!
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Dimocritus on August 04, 2010, 05:59:17 PM
Ok, so no video yet. I know someone filmed it, but she hasn't posted it yet.

According to various reports, and after handing out all 32 envelopes, I'd say that about 12-15 actions were performed. Maybe more, but a handful of actions would have been unnoticeable in the hectic conditions. One thing that I had not forseen was people trading and passing notes around. My bass player was upset that "I passed out 6 notes telling people to punch him in the balls." There was only one note with that instruction, so, people thinking it was a good one, must have shared the fun with one another, and so it made its way around the crowd.

Despite the fact that we were able to acheive a massive amount of audience participation with this game, there were a few issues.

One: Scepticism. It was tough, at first, to get people to just take the envelope and put it away without looking at it or questioning it (you would have been surprised how many people looked directly at it after being told to not look at it). Some people were very resistant. However, by the end of the night, I was able to perfect my shtick to make changing hands much simpler. Less talk (gives them less time to question  or react), a sense of privacy and earnest, and a few key power phrases ("this is a matter of national security / your country needs you") and people just automatically responded. Even the way I handed them the envelope changed the reactions. A clean unfolded envelope was twice as likely to be looked at and examined immediately, whereas if I had already folded it and stood really close to the recipient, they would just take it without question.

Two: Many instructions, while funny, were too subtle to be noticed in a mosh-pit enviroment. The fix for that is to really push the physicallity of the instructions. This limits what can be put in envelopes, but also forces a bit of creativity in coming up with future ideas.

With all that being said, and after a quick discussion with the band, we are going to do this again. We've never really had an issue with crowd participation (you're kinda forced into it at a Paraplegics show) but this certainly added a new dimension to the whole show. So, I'm still open for ideas, if any one has any. A couple new ones I thought of are "Lock arms with someone and don't let go" and "Put your thumb in the air, someone else has the same instruction. Find him and thumbwrestle him to the death"

Another thing. I passed out all the envelopes completey random, to be fair and sporting. HOWEVER, I feel that in the future, there's no problem with tailoring certain instructions for certain people. It only increases the chance of participation, and you can still do it with the sense of it being randomized.

Oh, and for the record, a list of actions that were definitely performed (ie, the ones that actually worked, to my knowledge):

Put your thumb up in the air. Somebody else has this same message. Find the other person with their thumb in the air. This is your partner for the night.

Sing along with the music. I know you don't know the words, just make shit up.

Do the Paraplegic Dance. That is, dance like you are handicapped.

High five as many people as possible. Somebody else has this note too. Find that guy and see who high fived more people.

Remove your pants. (and this was performed by a chick)

Cross your arms, stand still, and act aloof and too cool for any of this bullshit

Act normally.  Make sure everyone notices how normal you're acting

SHOW ME YOUR TITS (this one got passed around, too. A fat guy got it first, and was a really good sport)

crumple this note up, throw it at the stage, shake your head no, act afraid.  Tell no one what the note says

Punch the bass player in the balls (x6  :lulz:)

Jump on stage and shout: "Viva la revolution!"















Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Dimocritus on August 04, 2010, 06:03:22 PM
Oh, also: if you happen to want to come up with ideas, don't be afraid of going to the "extremes." We're a very phyisical band and most people in the audience are already prepared for injuries. Even the women.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Cramulus on August 04, 2010, 07:12:02 PM
hide a small bottle of whiskey somewhere, two of the envelopes describe where it is. the instructions mention that you'll have to race the other guy to find it.


Swap ALL OF YOUR CLOTHES with somebody else. YES, EVERYTHING.





it might be a good idea to keep two sets of envelopes, one in each of your back pockets. One pocket has "mild" assignments, the other "extreme" assignments. Pick and choose - if somebody looks shy or uncomfortable, give 'em a mild one. If somebody looks ready to have a good time, throw 'em in the deep end.


Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Dimocritus on August 04, 2010, 07:26:28 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on August 04, 2010, 07:12:02 PM
hide a small bottle of whiskey somewhere, two of the envelopes describe where it is. the instructions mention that you'll have to race the other guy to find it.

Yes! Great for a punk show!

Quote from: Cramulus on August 04, 2010, 07:12:02 PM
Swap ALL OF YOUR CLOTHES with somebody else. YES, EVERYTHING.

Haha! Seeing how well the other clothes-removing instructions went, this may work!

Quote from: Cramulus on August 04, 2010, 07:12:02 PM
it might be a good idea to keep two sets of envelopes, one in each of your back pockets. One pocket has "mild" assignments, the other "extreme" assignments. Pick and choose - if somebody looks shy or uncomfortable, give 'em a mild one. If somebody looks ready to have a good time, throw 'em in the deep end.


Yeah, I've also been thinking about doing seperate stacks.

Also, small props that can be put in the envelopes. Or maybe props on stage with corresponding instructions? That way we can have props of varying dimensions...
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Adios on August 04, 2010, 07:27:44 PM
Quote from: Cap'n dimo on August 04, 2010, 07:26:28 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on August 04, 2010, 07:12:02 PM
hide a small bottle of whiskey somewhere, two of the envelopes describe where it is. the instructions mention that you'll have to race the other guy to find it.

Yes! Great for a punk show!

Quote from: Cramulus on August 04, 2010, 07:12:02 PM
Swap ALL OF YOUR CLOTHES with somebody else. YES, EVERYTHING.

Haha! Seeing how well the other clothes-removing instructions went, this may work!

Quote from: Cramulus on August 04, 2010, 07:12:02 PM
it might be a good idea to keep two sets of envelopes, one in each of your back pockets. One pocket has "mild" assignments, the other "extreme" assignments. Pick and choose - if somebody looks shy or uncomfortable, give 'em a mild one. If somebody looks ready to have a good time, throw 'em in the deep end.


Yeah, I've also been thinking about doing seperate stacks.

Also, small props that can be put in the envelopes. Or maybe props on stage with corresponding instructions? That way we can have props of varying dimensions...

Make sure this doesn't violate state liquor laws, don't want to get the bar in trouble.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Cuddlefish on August 04, 2010, 07:35:09 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 04, 2010, 07:27:44 PM
Quote from: Cap'n dimo on August 04, 2010, 07:26:28 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on August 04, 2010, 07:12:02 PM
hide a small bottle of whiskey somewhere, two of the envelopes describe where it is. the instructions mention that you'll have to race the other guy to find it.

Yes! Great for a punk show!

Quote from: Cramulus on August 04, 2010, 07:12:02 PM
Swap ALL OF YOUR CLOTHES with somebody else. YES, EVERYTHING.

Haha! Seeing how well the other clothes-removing instructions went, this may work!

Quote from: Cramulus on August 04, 2010, 07:12:02 PM
it might be a good idea to keep two sets of envelopes, one in each of your back pockets. One pocket has "mild" assignments, the other "extreme" assignments. Pick and choose - if somebody looks shy or uncomfortable, give 'em a mild one. If somebody looks ready to have a good time, throw 'em in the deep end.


Yeah, I've also been thinking about doing seperate stacks.

Also, small props that can be put in the envelopes. Or maybe props on stage with corresponding instructions? That way we can have props of varying dimensions...

Make sure this doesn't violate state liquor laws, don't want to get the bar in trouble.

True dat. True dat.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Adios on August 04, 2010, 07:48:33 PM
I have owned two bars. If anyone brought their own alcohol in they and their alcohol were bounced.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on August 04, 2010, 07:50:56 PM
"Prevent the nearest envelope holder from performing their action AT ALL COSTS"
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Cuddlefish on August 04, 2010, 07:52:05 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on August 04, 2010, 07:50:56 PM
"Prevent the nearest envelope holder from performing their action AT ALL COSTS"

Daddy like!

Hey, Twid. (un?)related, looking at dates in sept. for putting a show together. PM me your availability.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on August 04, 2010, 07:54:38 PM
Quote from: Cuddlefish on August 04, 2010, 07:52:05 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on August 04, 2010, 07:50:56 PM
"Prevent the nearest envelope holder from performing their action AT ALL COSTS"

Daddy like!

Hey, Twid. (un?)related, looking at dates in sept. for putting a show together. PM me your availability.

Will do-I'll be hanging out with most of the bandmates on Saturday, I can probably give you a pretty good idea by then. Pat is in Ireland at the moment, but I'll see if I can get him to respond to email.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Adios on August 04, 2010, 07:54:51 PM
for a girl. Give the closest guy your bra and make him wear it.

stand in a chair and start preaching


Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Cuddlefish on August 04, 2010, 07:56:24 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 04, 2010, 07:54:51 PM
for a girl. Give the closest guy your bra and make him wear it.

stand in a chair and start preaching




It's good, but what I noticed was that many of the instructions that required speaking got totally drowned out, even if they stole a mic.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Adios on August 04, 2010, 07:58:17 PM
Quote from: Cuddlefish on August 04, 2010, 07:56:24 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 04, 2010, 07:54:51 PM
for a girl. Give the closest guy your bra and make him wear it.

stand in a chair and start preaching




It's good, but what I noticed was that many of the instructions that required speaking got totally drowned out, even if they stole a mic.

Hmmm. You could have pre made posterboard signs and the letter could direct to go get one and hold it over your head with various messages.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Cuddlefish on August 04, 2010, 07:59:32 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 04, 2010, 07:58:17 PM
Quote from: Cuddlefish on August 04, 2010, 07:56:24 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 04, 2010, 07:54:51 PM
for a girl. Give the closest guy your bra and make him wear it.

stand in a chair and start preaching




It's good, but what I noticed was that many of the instructions that required speaking got totally drowned out, even if they stole a mic.

Hmmm. You could have pre made posterboard signs and the letter could direct to go get one and hold it over your head with various messages.

Ok, now we're huffin' deisel.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: LMNO on August 04, 2010, 08:00:42 PM
Fingerpaints.  Message reads, "The person to your left is your canvas.  Go."
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Adios on August 04, 2010, 08:02:27 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on August 04, 2010, 08:00:42 PM
Fingerpaints.  Message reads, "The person to your left is your canvas.  Go."

I LIKE!
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on August 04, 2010, 08:02:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on August 04, 2010, 08:00:42 PM
Fingerpaints.  Message reads, "The person to your left is your canvas.  Go."

YES.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: NWC on August 04, 2010, 08:07:58 PM
this is awesome. Such a cool idea to begin with, and a lot of good suggestions. I especially love Cram's thumb partner idea.

Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on July 28, 2010, 04:28:59 PM
"It is now time for NO PANTS."

I saw A Perfect Circle 4 or 5 years ago, and Maynard told everyone that the next song was alot better with your pants off, and about half of the people there took off their pants.

Quote from: Cap'n dimo on August 04, 2010, 05:59:17 PM
One: Scepticism. It was tough, at first, to get people to just take the envelope and put it away without looking at it or questioning it (you would have been surprised how many people looked directly at it after being told to not look at it). Some people were very resistant. However, by the end of the night, I was able to perfect my shtick to make changing hands much simpler. Less talk (gives them less time to question  or react), a sense of privacy and earnest, and a few key power phrases ("this is a matter of national security / your country needs you") and people just automatically responded. Even the way I handed them the envelope changed the reactions. A clean unfolded envelope was twice as likely to be looked at and examined immediately, whereas if I had already folded it and stood really close to the recipient, they would just take it without question.

Maybe if you have something printed on the envelope, it would give more of a 'professional' air. Maybe a discordian seal or just in printed letters "Do not open until instructed - THE MGT". Then you could just look them in the eyes, and they would already have the instructions without any verbal exchange. It's a little more preparation, but I think it might help.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Adios on August 04, 2010, 08:14:58 PM
Sign my butt. Enclose a pen.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Cuddlefish on August 04, 2010, 08:22:47 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on August 04, 2010, 08:00:42 PM
Fingerpaints.  Message reads, "The person to your left is your canvas.  Go."

Ah, yes! How we do love making a mess  :evil:

Tho, if I make myself the target, there will probably be fewer pissed off people, and more fUn!

Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on August 04, 2010, 07:54:38 PM
Quote from: Cuddlefish on August 04, 2010, 07:52:05 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on August 04, 2010, 07:50:56 PM
"Prevent the nearest envelope holder from performing their action AT ALL COSTS"

Daddy like!

Hey, Twid. (un?)related, looking at dates in sept. for putting a show together. PM me your availability.

Will do-I'll be hanging out with most of the bandmates on Saturday, I can probably give you a pretty good idea by then. Pat is in Ireland at the moment, but I'll see if I can get him to respond to email.

Cool beans. Let me know.

Apparently, our next show is this saturday, so we can test a lot of these ideas soon!
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: LMNO on August 04, 2010, 08:24:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on August 04, 2010, 08:00:42 PM
Fingerpaints.  Message reads, "I am your canvas.  Go."

There is, however, a 63% chance your GF might get mad.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Cuddlefish on August 04, 2010, 08:26:23 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on August 04, 2010, 08:24:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on August 04, 2010, 08:00:42 PM
Fingerpaints.  Message reads, "I am your canvas.  Go."

There is, however, a 63% chance your GF might get mad.

I think she is immune to my bullshit by now, but if she does, VICTORY!
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Cuddlefish on August 04, 2010, 09:18:27 PM
Oh, while I'm thinking about it: My guitarist, my bass player and myself are often directly interacting with the audience/the target of their attacks. BUT my drummer usually remains generally unharmed. How can I get him involved in a way that is funny and surprising to him, but won't fuck him up while he's playing? Juno whata mang?
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Cramulus on August 04, 2010, 10:15:02 PM
get a bunch of people to chant his name?
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Richter on August 04, 2010, 10:40:30 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 04, 2010, 08:14:58 PM
Sign my butt. Enclose a pen.

Change it to read "Sign my left buttock".
Some fucker (me), will demand a full 2 handed spread to sign directly on the sphincter to teach you the error of ambiguous wording ways.  Unless you want some sadist tatooing your leather cheerio with a ballpoint pen while you try to sing.   
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Cuddlefish on August 05, 2010, 02:39:09 AM
Quote from: Richter on August 04, 2010, 10:40:30 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 04, 2010, 08:14:58 PM
Sign my butt. Enclose a pen.

Change it to read "Sign my left buttock".
Some fucker (me), will demand a full 2 handed spread to sign directly on the sphincter to teach you the error of ambiguous wording ways.  Unless you want some sadist tatooing your leather cheerio with a ballpoint pen while you try to sing.   

Ah, if only everybody was as gung-ho...
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: LMNO on August 05, 2010, 01:08:11 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on August 04, 2010, 10:15:02 PM
get a bunch of people to chant something embarassing/awesome about him.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Cuddlefish on August 05, 2010, 05:22:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on August 05, 2010, 01:08:11 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on August 04, 2010, 10:15:02 PM
get a bunch of people to chant something embarassing about him.

Okay, we're gettIng warmer, bUt...

The three of us up front are constantly punched, covered in beer, elbowed, retaliated against etc.. Generally, left in a state of discomfort for the benefit of the fans. The thing is, my bass player and gutarist have the ability to KEEP PLAYING while being attacked/upended, and I have (for the most part) my hands free, so I'm usually in the thick of things.

Yes, I want my drumeer to be included in the shindiggery, but I also want him to have to endure some discomfort, like the rest of us. Now, obviosly, we can't have someone punch him in the face and expect him to continue playing, drums require a bit more concentration. The chanting is a good idea, but there really isn't any way that he'll hear it.

Maybe we can give him light electric shocks? Maybe we can clamp clothes pins on his nipples?

Tl;dr

Be more aggressive.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on August 05, 2010, 05:24:22 PM
"Buy the worst beer this place has to offer and pour it on the drummer's head."
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Cuddlefish on August 05, 2010, 05:40:20 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on August 05, 2010, 05:24:22 PM
"Buy the worst beer this place has to offer and pour it on the drummer's head."

Hrmm...

How 'bout: "Switch the drummers beer with a can of piss."

God, that's awful.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on August 05, 2010, 05:43:22 PM
Quote from: Cuddlefish on August 05, 2010, 05:40:20 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on August 05, 2010, 05:24:22 PM
"Buy the worst beer this place has to offer and pour it on the drummer's head."

Hrmm...

How 'bout: "Switch the drummers beer with a can of piss."

God, that's awful.

That could lead to an interesting situation if the guy next to him had "Prevent nearest envelope holder's action AT ALL COSTS"
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: LMNO on August 05, 2010, 06:50:05 PM
Perhaps I'm biased here, but my opinion of most hardcore bands is that the rest of the band can play as shittily as they want to, but if the drummer fucks up, the entire song fails instantly.  Maybe you should just leave him alone.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Adios on August 05, 2010, 06:51:11 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on August 05, 2010, 06:50:05 PM
Perhaps I'm biased here, but my opinion of most hardcore bands is that the rest of the band can play as shittily as they want to, but if the drummer fucks up, the entire song fails instantly.  Maybe you should just leave him alone.

Ding.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Eater of Clowns on August 05, 2010, 06:56:33 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on August 05, 2010, 06:50:05 PM
Perhaps I'm biased here, but my opinion of most hardcore bands is that the rest of the band can play as shittily as they want to, but if the drummer fucks up, the entire song fails instantly.  Maybe you should just leave him alone.

You play many different roles in your various musical endeavors. Which do you enjoy the most?


Dave Grohl: I love being a drummer. Everyone thinks you're dumb. What they don't realize is that if it weren't for you, their band would suck.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Triple Zero on August 05, 2010, 07:29:47 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on August 05, 2010, 06:50:05 PM
Perhaps I'm biased here, but my opinion of most hardcore bands is that the rest of the band can play as shittily as they want to, but if the drummer fucks up, the entire song fails instantly.  Maybe you should just leave him alone.

On the one hand, you're absolutely right. For most hardcore/hardcore punk bands I've seen, how much I enjoyed their music was directly proportional to the skill of their drummer.

On the other hand, Dimo's right, it's not fair if he gets off much easier than the rest of the band :-P
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Adios on August 05, 2010, 07:31:39 PM
So have everybody fuck with him between sets.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: LMNO on August 05, 2010, 07:34:27 PM
Ah.  I got it.

Buxom women rubbing themselves against his neck and back whilst he plays.



LMNO
-Mind you, this may be a personal fantasy...
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Cuddlefish on August 05, 2010, 07:44:27 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on August 05, 2010, 06:50:05 PM
Perhaps I'm biased here, but my opinion of most hardcore bands is that the rest of the band can play as shittily as they want to, but if the drummer fucks up, the entire song fails instantly.  Maybe you should just leave him alone.

There is truth to that. But, a complaint that I get from drummers alot is that they aren't able to interact with the crowd. So maybe aggressive isn't the best way to go, but i still feel something should be done to include him in the fun.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: LMNO on August 05, 2010, 07:55:32 PM
Pull an Anthrax.  Joey Belladonna would play the drums during "I'm The Man".

You've claimed to have some drumming skills.  A few bars of "Wipeout" could get your guy out front and doing stupid shit.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Cuddlefish on August 05, 2010, 08:01:20 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on August 05, 2010, 07:55:32 PM
Pull an Anthrax.  Joey Belladonna would play the drums during "I'm The Man".

You've claimed to have some drumming skills.  A few bars of "Wipeout" could get your guy out front and doing stupid shit.

Not a bad idea... Though, we would have to specifically write something for that, as my stamina and speed doesn't match up with any of our existing songs.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: LMNO on August 05, 2010, 08:05:17 PM
Make it a half time oi-flavored mosh.  Grind out a bassline, and then steal an old Funkadelic chant, like:
"I FUCK 'EM, JUST TO SEE THE LOOK ON THEIR FACE/FUCKEM JUSTA SEE THE LOOK ON THEIR FACE!"

Repeat for a minute or two, create mayhem and sexual fury, and then stop.



You're welcome.
Title: Re: So, here's what imma gonna do...
Post by: Triple Zero on August 05, 2010, 08:11:17 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on August 05, 2010, 08:05:17 PM
Make it a half time oi-flavored mosh.  Grind out a bassline, and then steal an old Funkadelic chant, like:
"I FUCK 'EM, JUST TO SEE THE LOOK ON THEIR FACE/FUCKEM JUSTA SEE THE LOOK ON THEIR FACE!"

Repeat for a minute or two, create mayhem and sexual fury, and then stop.



You're welcome.

:mittens:

damn, it's been too long since i've been to a concert like this