I am a drunk. Sometimes I can be a very mean kind of drunk.
It's the blackouts that bother me the most. From all accounts on the outside I function like I am sober. But then the next day I have to e told what I did. I have even said hurtful things to my wife, who I adore.
Why can't I just pass out like normal people? At least then I wouldn't cause harm. But, no, I can't.
This is the one part of myself that I detest, and to any and all, I apologize for being that way. Things I say are meaningless when I am like that.
Maybe I need to get help.
Just be careful what kind of help you seek. Detox might be a good idea if you expect bad withdrawals but steer clear of any 12 step bullshit...they get inside your head and suck the individual out of you. And they always get god involved in your reparations somehow.
Quote from: Eartha-ly Delights on August 03, 2010, 04:46:54 PM
Just be careful what kind of help you seek. Detox might be a good idea if you expect bad withdrawals but steer clear of any 12 step bullshit...they get inside your head and suck the individual out of you. And they always get god involved in your reparations somehow.
Yeah, guess I just need to try to stop drinking at all. It seems if I have one i have 13.
CB - Straight up, don't buy alcohol. Don't have it in the house. If you go out, don't order it. If you go to friend's homes, don't drink.
You know this. If you recognize there is a problem you are a long wway towards solving that problem and for you that means no alcohol.
Your other concern is now, what do you need to do to make sure you don't replace the alcohol with something as equally harmful for you.
Both of my parents were functioning drunks. They are both dead, mainly because they chose not to stop, or rather they never admitted they had a problem.
I do not keep alcohol in the house, I rarely buy it except when I am having people over. I recognized a long time ago my potential to drink myself to death.
Quote from: Khara on August 03, 2010, 05:03:51 PM
CB - Straight up, don't buy alcohol. Don't have it in the house. If you go out, don't order it. If you go to friend's homes, don't drink.
You know this. If you recognize there is a problem you are a long wway towards solving that problem and for you that means no alcohol.
Your other concern is now, what do you need to do to make sure you don't replace the alcohol with something as equally harmful for you.
Both of my parents were functioning drunks. They are both dead, mainly because they chose not to stop, or rather they never admitted they had a problem.
I do not keep alcohol in the house, I rarely buy it except when I am having people over. I recognized a long time ago my potential to drink myself to death.
Good advice.
Now things make sense.
Hey, CB, you also have to take into account that the meds you are on have a contra-indicative effect when mixed with Alcohol. This is probably a contributary factor to the blackouts. If you know when you're about to have that first shot, that it's not going to end well, then try the fuck not to have that first one. Be aware that mixing alcohol with pain meds is going to make you lose time and memory. Try to mix them as little as possible
I know it's easy to say, sat here, but I do know how hard it is. I did two years in rehab, six meetings a week, AA, & NA, and I stopped everything for pretty much all that time. I know all the dumbarsed excuses you give yourself, as a reason for that first hit of booze, or gear, or whatever. I did that 12 step thing, or at least, paid it lip service while I was in rehab, I've fucked up many times since, (well, it was over 20 years ago) and I'm by no means clean or particularly serene, but I really do know what a fucking pinch you are in. No-one can do it for you, but I think there will be plenty of support if you need it. So if you ever need someone to bounce anything off of, or just to fuckin' yell at, I can take it, so long as you don't start throwing fucking snakes at me. okay?
Quote from: BadBeast on August 03, 2010, 10:58:16 PM
So if you ever need someone to bounce anything off of, or just to fuckin' yell at, I can take it, so long as you don't start throwing fucking snakes at me. okay?
This. I have no idea what you're going through, but I wish you all the best.
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 03, 2010, 04:04:39 PM
I am a drunk. Sometimes I can be a very mean kind of drunk.
It's the blackouts that bother me the most. From all accounts on the outside I function like I am sober. But then the next day I have to e told what I did. I have even said hurtful things to my wife, who I adore.
Why can't I just pass out like normal people? At least then I wouldn't cause harm. But, no, I can't.
This is the one part of myself that I detest, and to any and all, I apologize for being that way. Things I say are meaningless when I am like that.
Maybe I need to get help.
All you need is a hug, man.
GTFO
I've had some bouts of alcohol abuse/dependency but never to the point of regular blackouts.
That sounds really fucking serious man. I hope you get in touch with someone or some people you trust while your life is still intact.
There are other options besides the 12 steps, if you find that system repugnant, like me. I've certainly met some very kind people there, but the religious atmosphere is something I just cannot abide. I don't have the right glands.
Don't get me wrong, I think some people benefit from it and it may be worth a sincere effort if you haven't ever tried it, but there are also people who go through experienced clinicians, learn to kick it on their own and all sorts of bizarre shit that you never would think would work, but did for a tiny minority.
There's no way to know what will work for you until you get out there, put in some work and examine the results.
Thanks all. I have determined as soon as it is gone then it is gone. Tonight I have made myself count and thusly have reduced my intake plus I have avoided pain killers.
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 04, 2010, 04:04:54 AM
Thanks all. I have determined as soon as it is gone then it is gone. Tonight I have made myself count and thusly have reduced my intake plus I have avoided pain killers.
That sounds like a great start! I'm so proud of you, CB. Keep up the good work, ok? :)
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 04, 2010, 04:04:54 AM
Thanks all. I have determined as soon as it is gone then it is gone. Tonight I have made myself count and thusly have reduced my intake plus I have avoided pain killers.
Good. Don't pickle that lovely mind of yours....I want to hear more of your stories.
:D
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 03, 2010, 04:04:39 PM
I am a drunk. Sometimes I can be a very mean kind of drunk.
It's the blackouts that bother me the most. From all accounts on the outside I function like I am sober. But then the next day I have to e told what I did. I have even said hurtful things to my wife, who I adore.
Why can't I just pass out like normal people? At least then I wouldn't cause harm. But, no, I can't.
This is the one part of myself that I detest, and to any and all, I apologize for being that way. Things I say are meaningless when I am like that.
Maybe I need to get help.
That's a lot to have on your mind dude.
I think you need a drink.
I wish you luck man, it's never easy. Counting is a good thing if you are going to drink. Another thing is to gauge your mood going into it. Other than that, I really don't know what to say.
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 03, 2010, 04:04:39 PM
I am a drunk. Sometimes I can be a very mean kind of drunk.
It's the blackouts that bother me the most. From all accounts on the outside I function like I am sober. But then the next day I have to e told what I did. I have even said hurtful things to my wife, who I adore.
Why can't I just pass out like normal people? At least then I wouldn't cause harm. But, no, I can't.
This is the one part of myself that I detest, and to any and all, I apologize for being that way. Things I say are meaningless when I am like that.
Maybe I need to get help.
Sucks to hear that, Charley.
But I accept your apologies (not that you offended me btw). I hope you can stay clean now!
Is there anything we can do? Like, maybe if you're drunk and posting, you'll let us know and we can link you to this thread, or something?
And what does it mean to "count"? Count the amount of drinks you have?
I thought a lot more on this after I got home CB. I had a bit of time and honestly you came to mind when I was taking my 7 nightly pills for the array of insanity that my body has going on with it and it hit me, you're backing up pain meds with alcohol right?
That makes it all the more hard to quit. Because not only are you dealing with the mental bullshit, you also have the physical side effects on top of the pain you are in to begin with. So one of the first things I hope you are able to do is find yourself a good pain specialist. They can get you on a set medicinal regime along with possibly PT or maybe even massage therapy.
I don't know the rules where you are, but another option for the pain is acupuncture. A couple of years after the RA diagnosis, my shoulders and elbows were to the point I could barely bend them. Now mind you I was over a hundred pounds overweight, but, I still had to survive to lose the weight. I went to an acupuncturist and it was amazing what he did.
I know a lot of people think that it's all in your head, and my answer is this, I don't care where it comes from as long as it works!
I'm with Net in that I'm not a fan of AA. They tend to turn people into selfish assholes. Many of whom I liked a lot better as drunks. There are other programs and such. Plus you have the added bonus of a wonderful partner in your lady who is very strong, so I'm sure you have already sat down with her and discussed the options. She's a smart cookie, listen to her! You two have overcome so much bullshit, look at this as just another bump in the road.
But seriously, I truly think if you address the pain issue, the other problems will be much easier to deal with!!!
Or if y'all just need a break, you guys can come over here to StL and we'll go city snipe hunting :wink: We can use the crack dealers down the street as bait, or for target practice. That always makes one feel better!!!
Quote from: Triple Zero on August 04, 2010, 09:39:00 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 03, 2010, 04:04:39 PM
I am a drunk. Sometimes I can be a very mean kind of drunk.
It's the blackouts that bother me the most. From all accounts on the outside I function like I am sober. But then the next day I have to e told what I did. I have even said hurtful things to my wife, who I adore.
Why can't I just pass out like normal people? At least then I wouldn't cause harm. But, no, I can't.
This is the one part of myself that I detest, and to any and all, I apologize for being that way. Things I say are meaningless when I am like that.
Maybe I need to get help.
Sucks to hear that, Charley.
But I accept your apologies (not that you offended me btw). I hope you can stay clean now!
Is there anything we can do? Like, maybe if you're drunk and posting, you'll let us know and we can link you to this thread, or something?
And what does it mean to "count"? Count the amount of drinks you have?
Yes, counting how many drinks, that way I tell myself to stop at a certain number, usually before I get to ten.
Quote from: Khara on August 04, 2010, 02:35:52 PM
I thought a lot more on this after I got home CB. I had a bit of time and honestly you came to mind when I was taking my 7 nightly pills for the array of insanity that my body has going on with it and it hit me, you're backing up pain meds with alcohol right?
That makes it all the more hard to quit. Because not only are you dealing with the mental bullshit, you also have the physical side effects on top of the pain you are in to begin with. So one of the first things I hope you are able to do is find yourself a good pain specialist. They can get you on a set medicinal regime along with possibly PT or maybe even massage therapy.
I don't know the rules where you are, but another option for the pain is acupuncture. A couple of years after the RA diagnosis, my shoulders and elbows were to the point I could barely bend them. Now mind you I was over a hundred pounds overweight, but, I still had to survive to lose the weight. I went to an acupuncturist and it was amazing what he did.
I know a lot of people think that it's all in your head, and my answer is this, I don't care where it comes from as long as it works!
I'm with Net in that I'm not a fan of AA. They tend to turn people into selfish assholes. Many of whom I liked a lot better as drunks. There are other programs and such. Plus you have the added bonus of a wonderful partner in your lady who is very strong, so I'm sure you have already sat down with her and discussed the options. She's a smart cookie, listen to her! You two have overcome so much bullshit, look at this as just another bump in the road.
But seriously, I truly think if you address the pain issue, the other problems will be much easier to deal with!!!
Or if y'all just need a break, you guys can come over here to StL and we'll go city snipe hunting :wink: We can use the crack dealers down the street as bait, or for target practice. That always makes one feel better!!!
Well thanks.
I drink to numb my mind to sleep. (I think) I have an appointment with my doctor to ask about a pot prescription since it puts me to sleep quicker.
I have recently received an injection in my shoulder and am currently in PT for it.
Of course there are no injections for everything else. :lulz:
Quote from: Khara on August 04, 2010, 02:35:52 PM
I don't know the rules where you are, but another option for the pain is acupuncture. A couple of years after the RA diagnosis, my shoulders and elbows were to the point I could barely bend them. Now mind you I was over a hundred pounds overweight, but, I still had to survive to lose the weight. I went to an acupuncturist and it was amazing what he did.
I know a lot of people think that it's all in your head, and my answer is this, I don't care where it comes from as long as it works!
It's hard to do medical research on acupuncture, because you can't really design a proper placebo for it. Because you'd know if you were in the control group from the fact that you don't have needles stuck in you. At least that's what Wikipedia says on the matter. Which makes me wonder, because following the same line of reasoning you cannot prove the efficacy of massage therapy. Or for that matter, setting straight of a broken bone.
One thing I heard from a friend studying medicine (sorry got no citation) is that they are in fact able to produce a repeatable and observable effect with acupuncture: if you put the needles on the proper points on an arm, the arm goes limp (until you remove the needles). It doesn't need energies or auras, it just needs the needles at the right places and every doctor could do it. The question is of course that this is not particularly useful for anything, and how to do repeatable observable useful things, like pain relief. But at least it shows that it does
something, and it does it via a mechanism that they don't quite fully understand (the human body is really complex like that).
What was usually your average before cutting yourself off at 10 and how often would you drink?
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on August 04, 2010, 03:25:45 PM
What was usually your average before cutting yourself off at 10 and how often would you drink?
I drink every night and go through a gallon of whiskey a week.
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 04, 2010, 03:32:46 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on August 04, 2010, 03:25:45 PM
What was usually your average before cutting yourself off at 10 and how often would you drink?
I drink every night and go through a gallon of whiskey a week.
You're definitely going to want to step it down gradually. You'll still be binge drinking every night for awhile, but alcohol withdrawl is nothing to toy with. 10 is probably good for now, your doctor will probably be able to give you better advice than I can though.
Doctors appointment is Friday 13th. First open day.
Auspicious date.
Good. Superstition brings bad luck.
According to folklorists, there is no written evidence for a "Friday the 13th" superstition before the 19th century.[4][5][6] The earliest known documented reference in English occurs in an 1869 biography of Gioachino Rossini:
[Rossini] was surrounded to the last by admiring and affectionate friends; and if it be true that, like so many other Italians, he regarded Friday as an unlucky day, and thirteen as an unlucky number, it is remarkable that on Friday, the 13th of November, he died.[7]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friday_the_13th
Srsly though, good move.
Nor do I fear god, hell, satan, or any of it. I can't die. The only thing I fear is the Christian heaven. If I go there I will kill myself.
Oh Italians are all superstitious as fuck.
Quote from: BadBeast on August 05, 2010, 12:16:50 AM
Oh Italians are all superstitious as fuck.
Superstition is a O:MF.
Yeah, you need a "get out of Heaven free" card.
Or spend eternity with the fuckers
I will ask for two things at the doctors.
Anabuse.
Medical pot prescription.
I think we're all probably IP banned at Heaven anyway, on account of being Discordians.
Quote from: BadBeast on August 05, 2010, 12:19:45 AM
I think we're all probably IP banned at Heaven anyway, on account of being Discordians.
:spittake:
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 05, 2010, 12:19:17 AM
I will ask for two things at the doctors.
Anabuse.
Medical pot prescription.
The Pot's probably a good idea, but he won't give you anabuse until you've been detoxed. He'll probably give you Valium or Librium, for the withdrawal symptoms.
They can be pretty severe without benzos.
Quote from: BadBeast on August 05, 2010, 12:22:20 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 05, 2010, 12:19:17 AM
I will ask for two things at the doctors.
Anabuse.
Medical pot prescription.
The Pot's probably a good idea, but he won't give you anabuse until you've been detoxed. He'll probably give you Valium or Librium, for the withdrawal symptoms.
They can be pretty severe without benzos.
All I know is, it has to stop. I am already on number 4 tonight.
Have you tried to stop before?
Ok, that was a weak response. I go 2 - 3 days without, then convince myself I can keep it to one or two a night. Next thing I know.......
Yeah, it's not the stopping that's hardest, it's staying stopped. I know AA works for a lot of people, but it's just all that 'Higher power' stuff, and level of misery that put me right off.
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 05, 2010, 12:32:39 AM
Ok, that was a weak response. I go 2 - 3 days without, then convince myself I can keep it to one or two a night. Next thing I know.......
That's a really common pattern, seems like in the period without a drink, people manage to convince themselves that maybe it wasn't so problematic after all, and start again.
It's actually a bit of an eye opener, seeing how many behaviour patterns are centered around an addiction, and the lengths we go to to even avoid looking at it as an addiction. The realisation that we are powerless over such a large part of our lives is a hard thing to take on board.
Possibly the hardest thing about the whole thing.
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 05, 2010, 12:23:43 AM
Quote from: BadBeast on August 05, 2010, 12:22:20 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 05, 2010, 12:19:17 AM
I will ask for two things at the doctors.
Anabuse.
Medical pot prescription.
The Pot's probably a good idea, but he won't give you anabuse until you've been detoxed. He'll probably give you Valium or Librium, for the withdrawal symptoms.
They can be pretty severe without benzos.
All I know is, it has to stop. I am already on number 4 tonight.
Maybe when you get to 5 or 6, hold it there for a couple of hours, and see if you want that 7th afterwards.
After tonight maybe I will just continue and not worry about drinking myself to death. Fuck it.
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 05, 2010, 04:04:52 AM
After tonight maybe I will just continue and not worry about drinking myself to death. Fuck it.
:(
Who is driving brain?
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on August 05, 2010, 06:34:09 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 05, 2010, 04:04:52 AM
After tonight maybe I will just continue and not worry about drinking myself to death. Fuck it.
:(
Who is driving brain?
Perhaps this is why I started the occams razor thread.
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 05, 2010, 04:45:34 PM
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on August 05, 2010, 06:34:09 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 05, 2010, 04:04:52 AM
After tonight maybe I will just continue and not worry about drinking myself to death. Fuck it.
:(
Who is driving brain?
Perhaps this is why I started the occams razor thread.
I'M ENJOYING
the razor thread quite a bit. to me, insanity and genius are different, but very closely related. I think that discussion could go on for a million pages. These two last posts took the thought bubbles right off my page, it DOES seem that brain driving is ON THE TABLE, Herr Brown. Creative efforts, which feel good, feel like GENIUS moves, whereas, creative frustration feels like insanity. You're struggling with your genius, Charley.
I BROKE
a vicious years-long-drinking-binge a few months back ( i'm more of a gallon every 72 hrs plus all the beer you can chase it with, not less than 8% whatever in a 40 oz.) by
1) smoking POT again, which serves me sooo much better and reeally decimates my
NEED for booze. I fucking love a good drink, but only when the feeling is genius, not making me insane. Also,
2) i'm trying to be more conscientious of
ALL of my
DAILY HABITS, coffee, computer, whatever is an activity i can identify as a habit/ rat race type activity, in order to give my body & mind a chance to make some independent decisions.
I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY
just promote switching out booze for weed as
THE ANSWER, but for myself, - I'm back to my girlish figure (bye, bye whiskey belly!!), and i'm nearly done plaster finishing my entire upstairs, and there's NO WAY i could've sanded all that mud with a glass in my hand. It would have spilled and gotten dust in it, so i wouldn't have worked at all. And i'd be frustrated, and considered insane by those around me, snickering at my unfinished walls. INSTEAD, i am a mad genius, having capably accomplished a task which i not only despised (anything to do with drywall/ mud/ plaster) and had little previous skill at. Also, way better mood and uuber horny.
Well, I am not claiming genius.
Congrats for kicking it!
However there are things going on in my head which concern me greatly. When I am sober, as I am now, It's almost like a window of clarity is about to open and I am sitting quietly outside of myself anticipating it. Then a switch flips and I pull away.
I am afraid.
I know there are a lot of arguments against replacing one drug, with another, but as far as Pot vs Booze goes, to replace drink for puff, can only be a good move. While it won't deal with any of the underlying issues, it at least ties up your destructive booze routines, and replaces them with far less damaging ones. This will give you a breathing space, at least.
But be prepared to gain about 30lbs in Mars Bars, and Ben & Jerry's.
It seems like a less painful and stupid version of giving a heroin addict methadone instead ie it might actually help mitigate some of the worst aspects of drinking, while giving enough breathing space to work towards cutting out the need for any mind altering substance at all.
That would be ideal.
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 05, 2010, 05:37:37 PM
Well, I am not claiming genius.
Congrats for kicking it!
However there are things going on in my head which concern me greatly. When I am sober, as I am now, It's almost like a window of clarity is about to open and I am sitting quietly outside of myself anticipating it. Then a switch flips and I pull away.
I am afraid.
SEE,
you're playing with your genius/ insanity toggle (you dirty little whore!)
:lulz:
I am no genius.
So I'm gonna break with expectations here...
If you have a problem with addiction... or maybe drinking instead of facing life... swapping alcohol out for pot isn't necessarily gonna help. Sure, you won't be a mean stoner, and your liver will be much happier... but pot is just as easy, if not easier to hide behind. Especially because its not 'addictive', it doesn't make you mean and its health risks are far lower... so you end up in a safer refuge, a less obvious problem.
I mean, if you're gonna use a drug, I think pot is a much better choice than alcohol... but if you're using the drug to escape reality, pot is dangerous. Alcohol may make you feel bad afterward and its obvious you have a problem. Pot, meh you just smoke another bowl and go on with your day... and its easy to forget that you have a problem that needs to be dealt with.
Expectations? On a thread on this forum? I thought I was the one with substance abuse issues!
:lulz:
Quote from: Ratatosk on August 05, 2010, 07:11:45 PM
So I'm gonna break with expectations here...
If you have a problem with addiction... or maybe drinking instead of facing life... swapping alcohol out for pot isn't necessarily gonna help. Sure, you won't be a mean stoner, and your liver will be much happier... but pot is just as easy, if not easier to hide behind. Especially because its not 'addictive', it doesn't make you mean and its health risks are far lower... so you end up in a safer refuge, a less obvious problem.
I mean, if you're gonna use a drug, I think pot is a much better choice than alcohol... but if you're using the drug to escape reality, pot is dangerous. Alcohol may make you feel bad afterward and its obvious you have a problem. Pot, meh you just smoke another bowl and go on with your day... and its easy to forget that you have a problem that needs to be dealt with.
You are making a perfectly valid point here, but at this point, I think damage limitation, rather than psychoanalysis
of the underlying issues, should be the primary concern at the moment.
The "escape from reality" aspect with Pot, is usually more prevalent in A/ Young people, without much life experience, and B/ People who use it as their primary drug of choice. The therapeutic value of Pot, in this particular case, I think far outweigh any negative or destructive potential.
A good friend of mine, who had a 25 year addiction to Heroin, and Alcohol, (switching from one to the other periodically) and was too ill to anaesthetise for a major surgery, gave up both, then had her operation, and rather than going back on the piss, or the gear, started smoking weed heavily.
Now she hasn't had a drink, or any Heroin for 8 years, does AA meetings twice a week, and has reduced her weed smoking to the extent where she can hold down a job.
She still smokes every day, and gets a bit morose without it, but compared to the state of her, say, 10 years ago, she's a different person, and much happier. Still addicted, still using pot, but not in a way that is problematic to her.
Quote from: BadBeast on August 05, 2010, 07:35:26 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on August 05, 2010, 07:11:45 PM
So I'm gonna break with expectations here...
If you have a problem with addiction... or maybe drinking instead of facing life... swapping alcohol out for pot isn't necessarily gonna help. Sure, you won't be a mean stoner, and your liver will be much happier... but pot is just as easy, if not easier to hide behind. Especially because its not 'addictive', it doesn't make you mean and its health risks are far lower... so you end up in a safer refuge, a less obvious problem.
I mean, if you're gonna use a drug, I think pot is a much better choice than alcohol... but if you're using the drug to escape reality, pot is dangerous. Alcohol may make you feel bad afterward and its obvious you have a problem. Pot, meh you just smoke another bowl and go on with your day... and its easy to forget that you have a problem that needs to be dealt with.
You are making a perfectly valid point here, but at this point, I think damage limitation, rather than psychoanalysis
of the underlying issues, should be the primary concern at the moment.
The "escape from reality" aspect with Pot, is usually more prevalent in A/ Young people, without much life experience, and B/ People who use it as their primary drug of choice. The therapeutic value of Pot, in this particular case, I think far outweigh any negative or destructive potential.
A good friend of mine, who had a 25 year addiction to Heroin, and Alcohol, (switching from one to the other periodically) and was too ill to anaesthetise for a major surgery, gave up both, then had her operation, and rather than going back on the piss, or the gear, started smoking weed heavily.
Now she hasn't had a drink, or any Heroin for 8 years, does AA meetings twice a week, and has reduced her weed smoking to the extent where she can hold down a job.
She still smokes every day, and gets a bit morose without it, but compared to the state of her, say, 10 years ago, she's a different person, and much happier. Still addicted, still using pot, but not in a way that is problematic to her.
Oh I agree, its much less of a concern than other popular 'self medication'... but because its so relatively harmless, I've noticed that it can easily make you forget there's a problem at all.I mentioned the concern because CB stated that when he's sober there's almost a window to look out but then he wants to run away from it. Pot easily makes you forget that there's a window you should look out of.
I use pot, I personally think most people would benefit from using pot... but becoming complacent and satisfied with the status quo is the one big risk when you smoke the herb.
Realistically speaking... FOR FUCKS SAKE YOUR LIVER WILL THANK YOU!!!!!!!! And you'll laugh instead of being mean... and I dunno if its just me or not... but pot sometimes leads to creativity, whereas alcohol leads to a hangover.
:wink:
I have a few friends who realize one drink will lead to twelve and don't drink because of it. I feel for you, I'm not a heavy drinker but there's no way I'd want to give it up. I love the taste and the feeling too much. I know the feeling from pot is more fun, although it also lasts longer which can be difficult if you want to be high and then be sober again, not too much later.