Lost Technologies of Ancient Egypt; Advanced Engineering in the Temples of the Pharaohs
I read a couple of books which go into sacred geometry of the "Ancient" civilizations and the reasons behind their construction by people like Johnathan Grey, Eric Von Daniken mainly and some others like David Wilcox who try elaborate (mainly based on dubious reasoning). So i am hoping that this book will shed some light on the actual mechanics and construction and how it differs from the historical record from an engineer with a more methodological approach than say an archaeologist and see if the evidence actually suggest something worthwhile referencing. Ill let you know how it goes.
I started reading this last night in bed and i thought it started out quite well without the need to mystify the book with psychobabble and banal theories about sound wave technology or anti gravity technology.
here is some of the forward
'What researcher Christopher Dunn has accomplished in Lost Technologies of Ancient Egypt and in his previous work, The Giza Power Plant, is more than a paradigm shift; it is more of a paradigm seismic event. Because once a person with a manufacturing or machining background-engineer, technician, machinist, artisan-reads and understands what Dunn has discovered and analyzed in ancient Egyptian stonework, that person will never look at ancient Egyptians the same way ever again. That reader will become skeptical of portrayals of ancient Egyptians as primitive in any sense. That reader will begin to analyze every new Egyptian archaeological discovery, to see what else conventional Egyptologists have overlooked. That reader will become part of the new paradigm.
In these pages, Chris Dunn demonstrates an underlying system of incredible precision in the machining, layout and positioning of both individual objects and groups of features, ranging from the toolmark details in the "Rose Red Rosetta Stone of Abu Roash" to the symmetries of the giant heads of Ramses at the temples in Luxor, to the layout of the column capitals of the Great Hypostyle Hall at Denderah, to the base of the Great Pyramid itself. Thanks to this work, the modern reader sits back in awe and admiration of the Egyptian geniuses of five thousand years ago. The ancient artifacts contain amazing messages, but the stones cannot speak for themselves. This book speaks for them. In November 2008, i accompanied Mr. Dunn and other to what some have called "the Lost Pyramid" at Abu Roash, some ten kilometers northwest of Giza. I was anxious to see the rose-colored granite piece that the author had described to me years before, anticipating seeing the compound radial cuts and distinguishing toolmarks. I was not dissapointed. To any technophile, this one cut stone exhibits mute arguments against primitive tools and primitive peoples. More than any other artifact, it embodies an ancient "language" that still speaks to modern engineers. I immediately dubbed it the "Rose Red Rosetta Stone of Abu Roash." I called the stone a "Rosetta" because its discovery reminded me of another paradigm-changing artifact: in 1799, Napoleon's soldiers found a curious object embedded in a wall of an Egyptian village. Their original report "A report on a stone Found in the Village of Rosetta." describes a black rock slab inscribed with three languages, one of them being ancient Greek, the others the unknown Egyptian hieroglyphic writing and cursive or "demotic" Egyptian writing. Reading the Greek portion, the antiquarian Champollion was able to translate the names of the Pharaohs-written within cartouches-and thence the rest of the hieroglyphic writing itself. He opened up an eventual understanding of the million of carved figures decorating the ancient temples and tombs of the Nile. Nobody would ever again look at the hieroglyphic carvings as mere magical, mystical figures, but would read the translations of experts who deciphered those cuts and reliefs, uncovering the lost history of Egypt. The Rosetta stone thus facilitated a change in the worldview of moderns who looked back at ancient Egyptians. Nothing would ever be the same. I maintain that this book has accomplished a similar feat, every bit as meaningful to an understanding of ancient Egypt, if not more so. once understood, Dunn's discoveries will forever change the perception of the serious researcher......' - Arlan Andrews Sr., ScD
Christopher Dunn, Lost Technologies of Ancient Egypt(Vermont:Bear and Company,2010),pp(x,xi).
Looks quite well presented so far and there are lots of photos as well.
I read "Giza Power Plant" back when i was in high school, and remember thinking that it was pretty compelling that there was something different about that pyramid, and that the standard explanations for its construction is insufficient.
Later when i worked in a machine shop at university, i remembered that book, and the discussions of the tooling marks that this guy shows in his book.
I'd like to go to the store and thumb through the book again and see how it fares against my skepticism filter these days...
No advanced or alien techniques were required, and the project was used to fucking bury some dude and to give the working class something to keep them busy during the rainy season.
FFS.
Apparently the Giza power plant book relied a little bit too much on the geometry aspects of it so he re-examined his work from the criticism he got and made this book a lot more technical and about the tools which would have had to be used and comparing it with modern machinery to examine tool marks and such as far as i can tell.
Btw Howl are you a nihilist by anychance?
if i recall correctly the inner chamber of the giza pyramid was not originally occupied by any corpse.
some later pharoh had himself stuck in there.
i believe he claimed that the tollerances on the giza one are significantly higher than those constructed later, which he said looked to him like copies made by people without machine tools.
the pics in the books showed what he claimed to be the stones from giza, and what appears to be undeniably machine tool marks. like from a fly cutter, or something...
now i want to flip back through it to recall what his specific claims were.
Right, so that was just the aliens' control room.
My bad, carry on.
Ancient people could do some wicked cool shit with primitive technology. :fap: :fap: :fap:
That about sum it up?
Quote from: Secret Level on August 27, 2010, 06:09:16 PM
Ancient people could do some wicked cool shit with primitive technology. :fap: :fap: :fap:
That about sum it up?
NO, NO, PEOPLE AREN'T SMART ENOUGH TO DO THAT.
THEY HAD HELP. ALIENS CAME ALONG WITH A FULL MACHINE SHOP, AND THEN THE HUMANS FUCKED IT UP AND TURNED THE SPACEPORT INTO A GRAVE.
DUMB LITTLE MONKEYS! THAT'S WHY OUR GALACTIC SPACE BROTHERS™ NEVER CAME BACK!
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 27, 2010, 06:11:29 PM
Quote from: Secret Level on August 27, 2010, 06:09:16 PM
Ancient people could do some wicked cool shit with primitive technology. :fap: :fap: :fap:
That about sum it up?
NO, NO, PEOPLE AREN'T SMART ENOUGH TO DO THAT.
THEY HAD HELP. ALIENS CAME ALONG WITH A FULL MACHINE SHOP, AND THEN THE HUMANS FUCKED IT UP AND TURNED THE SPACEPORT INTO A GRAVE.
DUMB LITTLE MONKEYS! THAT'S WHY OUR GALACTIC SPACE BROTHERS™ NEVER CAME BACK!
THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS. PEOPLE KEEP FUCKING OUR PERFECT UTOPIAS UP. PLEASE COMEBACK SPACE DRAGONS FROM THE 23RD DIMENSION AND TEACH US YOUR WAYS.
That being said, I might look for a copy to thumb through seeing how I do have a small background in making small bits of metal from big bits of metal.....which makes me an expert on all things manufacturing. :kingmeh::1fap:
:lulz:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 27, 2010, 06:35:52 PM
:lulz:
I am also an expert on every small arm in the world, because I go to the range once every 6months and fire off less than 300 rounds from an m249 at stationary paper.
Oh oh, and because I did a week, a whole week, solid of Modern Army Combatives, I am an expert in how to kill with my bare hands.
I also have a jar of peanut butter that still has not had life start in it, so God is real dammit.
I don't know where I am going with this...but for some reason that book, which I haven't read yet, makes me think of that.
i don't recall that the book postulates anything about aliens.....
Quote from: Secret Level on August 27, 2010, 06:41:22 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 27, 2010, 06:35:52 PM
:lulz:
I am also an expert on every small arm in the world, because I go to the range once every 6months and fire off less than 300 rounds from an m249 at stationary paper.
Oh oh, and because I did a week, a whole week, solid of Modern Army Combatives, I am an expert in how to kill with my bare hands.
I also have a jar of peanut butter that still has not had life start in it, so God is real dammit.
I don't know where I am going with this...but for some reason that book, which I haven't read yet, makes me think of that.
It makes me think of what they've done to the History Channel (24/7 Nostradumbass), the Discovery Channel (GHOSTS!), and Omni Magazine (UFOS MADE TEH PEERAMIDS!).
And my heart fills up with just a little more hate.
Quote from: Iptuous on August 27, 2010, 06:44:41 PM
i don't recall that the book postulates anything about aliens.....
Okay, time travellers with machine tools and generators. :lulz:
I remember a time when the History channel had history on it. A time when the discovery channel had educational programs, instead of reality tv.
Quote from: Secret Level on August 27, 2010, 06:53:08 PM
I remember a time when the History channel had history on it. A time when the discovery channel had educational programs, instead of reality tv.
I remember when MTV played videos all day, NO COMMERCIALS.
It lasted for about a month.
If this is the same guy I saw on Discover, he was mostly just arguing that the Ancient Civilizations likely had a lot better tech than we give them credit for. The Antikythera mechanism provides evidence that this is true at least for BC era Greece. It not unreasonable to think that maybe ancient people had figured out some useful stuff... a Giant Power Station, maybe a bit more than we can reasonably be expected to believe... but cool stone cutting tools/procedures that we no longer know about? Well, maybe.
Quote from: Ratatosk on August 27, 2010, 06:56:41 PM
If this is the same guy I saw on Discover, he was mostly just arguing that the Ancient Civilizations likely had a lot better tech than we give them credit for. The Antikythera mechanism provides evidence that this is true at least for BC era Greece. It not unreasonable to think that maybe ancient people had figured out some useful stuff... a Giant Power Station, maybe a bit more than we can reasonably be expected to believe... but cool stone cutting tools/procedures that we no longer know about? Well, maybe.
And a mill. A big fucking CNC Bridgeport bastard, with a full set of bits.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 27, 2010, 07:02:12 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on August 27, 2010, 06:56:41 PM
If this is the same guy I saw on Discover, he was mostly just arguing that the Ancient Civilizations likely had a lot better tech than we give them credit for. The Antikythera mechanism provides evidence that this is true at least for BC era Greece. It not unreasonable to think that maybe ancient people had figured out some useful stuff... a Giant Power Station, maybe a bit more than we can reasonably be expected to believe... but cool stone cutting tools/procedures that we no longer know about? Well, maybe.
And a mill. A big fucking CNC Bridgeport bastard, with a full set of bits.
:lulz:
exactly. that's what i remember getting out of the book.
and even as far as the power plant notion, he made it clear that that was just his best guess, and i recall the evidence of that being pretty scant. it's just a good hook.
it was primarily just a commentary that this doesn't appear to have been made with the rudimentary tools that are commonly attributed to it....
I see no reason to doubt that human technology has made significant inroads, and then retreats over the course of our history.
but it does make an easy target to lump in with Zecharia Sitchin type stuff...
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 27, 2010, 07:02:12 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on August 27, 2010, 06:56:41 PM
If this is the same guy I saw on Discover, he was mostly just arguing that the Ancient Civilizations likely had a lot better tech than we give them credit for. The Antikythera mechanism provides evidence that this is true at least for BC era Greece. It not unreasonable to think that maybe ancient people had figured out some useful stuff... a Giant Power Station, maybe a bit more than we can reasonably be expected to believe... but cool stone cutting tools/procedures that we no longer know about? Well, maybe.
And a mill. A big fucking CNC Bridgeport bastard, with a full set of bits.
I kinda like Haas, but Bridgeport make bang up manual mills.
And...I just forgot all the G-codes I ever knew...
Quote from: Iptuous on August 27, 2010, 07:04:17 PM
exactly. that's what i remember getting out of the book.
and even as far as the power plant notion, he made it clear that that was just his best guess, and i recall the evidence of that being pretty scant. it's just a good hook.
it was primarily just a commentary that this doesn't appear to have been made with the rudimentary tools that are commonly attributed to it....
I see no reason to doubt that human technology has made significant inroads, and then retreats over the course of our history.
but it does make an easy target to lump in with Zecharia Sitchin type stuff...
Well, I'd expect to come across some artifacts. Things like that leave traces, and shit doesn't rust in a desert unless you make it rust. Even if it DID rust, something would be left.
Humans were MORE clever, IMO, before they had this much technology, because they HAD to be. Not more intelligent, just more innovative with the tools they had.
If you or I were transported back to ancient Egypt, we'd be utterly useless, because we wouldn't have the tools to make the tools that we rely on each and every day.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 27, 2010, 07:11:26 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on August 27, 2010, 07:04:17 PM
exactly. that's what i remember getting out of the book.
and even as far as the power plant notion, he made it clear that that was just his best guess, and i recall the evidence of that being pretty scant. it's just a good hook.
it was primarily just a commentary that this doesn't appear to have been made with the rudimentary tools that are commonly attributed to it....
I see no reason to doubt that human technology has made significant inroads, and then retreats over the course of our history.
but it does make an easy target to lump in with Zecharia Sitchin type stuff...
Well, I'd expect to come across some artifacts. Things like that leave traces, and shit doesn't rust in a desert unless you make it rust. Even if it DID rust, something would be left.
Humans were MORE clever, IMO, before they had this much technology, because they HAD to be. Not more intelligent, just more innovative with the tools they had.
If you or I were transported back to ancient Egypt, we'd be utterly useless, because we wouldn't have the tools to make the tools that we rely on each and every day.
And, especially with the Egyptians and their whole "lets shove all kind of crap in this important person's tomb so he has that shit in the afterlife", would have preserved this mysterious super tech.
Quote from: Secret Level on August 27, 2010, 07:13:34 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 27, 2010, 07:11:26 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on August 27, 2010, 07:04:17 PM
exactly. that's what i remember getting out of the book.
and even as far as the power plant notion, he made it clear that that was just his best guess, and i recall the evidence of that being pretty scant. it's just a good hook.
it was primarily just a commentary that this doesn't appear to have been made with the rudimentary tools that are commonly attributed to it....
I see no reason to doubt that human technology has made significant inroads, and then retreats over the course of our history.
but it does make an easy target to lump in with Zecharia Sitchin type stuff...
Well, I'd expect to come across some artifacts. Things like that leave traces, and shit doesn't rust in a desert unless you make it rust. Even if it DID rust, something would be left.
Humans were MORE clever, IMO, before they had this much technology, because they HAD to be. Not more intelligent, just more innovative with the tools they had.
If you or I were transported back to ancient Egypt, we'd be utterly useless, because we wouldn't have the tools to make the tools that we rely on each and every day.
And, especially with the Egyptians and their whole "lets shove all kind of crap in this important person's tomb so he has that shit in the afterlife", would have preserved this mysterious super tech.
Grain in baskets.
Gold in boxes.
Chariot in antechamber.
Cell phone in sarcophagus.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 27, 2010, 07:11:26 PM
Well, I'd expect to come across some artifacts. Things like that leave traces, and shit doesn't rust in a desert unless you make it rust. Even if it DID rust, something would be left.
Humans were MORE clever, IMO, before they had this much technology, because they HAD to be. Not more intelligent, just more innovative with the tools they had.
If you or I were transported back to ancient Egypt, we'd be utterly useless, because we wouldn't have the tools to make the tools that we rely on each and every day.
That's true... but remember we had no evidence that Antikythera existed until we found a complete one at the bottom of the sea. Where were the other ones like it? the spare parts? Dunno... maybe they are just waiting to be uncovered, maybe they got melted down and re-purposed, or maybe they don't exist and Antikythera was a one of a kind thing...
I don't believe that the ancients had advanced technology, but I think its possible that they had tools, procedures etc that are better than we currently believe.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 27, 2010, 07:15:57 PM
Quote from: Secret Level on August 27, 2010, 07:13:34 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 27, 2010, 07:11:26 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on August 27, 2010, 07:04:17 PM
exactly. that's what i remember getting out of the book.
and even as far as the power plant notion, he made it clear that that was just his best guess, and i recall the evidence of that being pretty scant. it's just a good hook.
it was primarily just a commentary that this doesn't appear to have been made with the rudimentary tools that are commonly attributed to it....
I see no reason to doubt that human technology has made significant inroads, and then retreats over the course of our history.
but it does make an easy target to lump in with Zecharia Sitchin type stuff...
Well, I'd expect to come across some artifacts. Things like that leave traces, and shit doesn't rust in a desert unless you make it rust. Even if it DID rust, something would be left.
Humans were MORE clever, IMO, before they had this much technology, because they HAD to be. Not more intelligent, just more innovative with the tools they had.
If you or I were transported back to ancient Egypt, we'd be utterly useless, because we wouldn't have the tools to make the tools that we rely on each and every day.
And, especially with the Egyptians and their whole "lets shove all kind of crap in this important person's tomb so he has that shit in the afterlife", would have preserved this mysterious super tech.
Grain in baskets.
Gold in boxes.
Chariot in antechamber.
Cell phone in sarcophagus.
:lulz:
I was more thinking models of craftsmen/slaves with the tools of their trade.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 27, 2010, 07:11:26 PM
Well, I'd expect to come across some artifacts. Things like that leave traces, and shit doesn't rust in a desert unless you make it rust. Even if it DID rust, something would be left.
Humans were MORE clever, IMO, before they had this much technology, because they HAD to be. Not more intelligent, just more innovative with the tools they had.
If you or I were transported back to ancient Egypt, we'd be utterly useless, because we wouldn't have the tools to make the tools that we rely on each and every day.
Sure. I would think we would come across some artifacts. Perhaps if archaeologists were looking at ancient sites with the possibility of things being present that they are not currently trained to expect then we would. I'm not saying this is the case, but a possibility. This guy said that the marks on the stones are pretty obvious machine tools, but the archaeologists that investigated it completely ignored them because it wasn't on their radar.
Who knows.
As far as things not rusting in the desert, a bunch of the crap that my dad brought back from Iraq when he went over there in the first war was all sorts of rusted out. I could imagine much of whatever might have existed wouldn't be just laying around anymore.
I just see no reason to be dismissive of the notion that we have had periods of more advanced technology in the past that we credit. It doesn't seem magical to me at all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baghdad_Battery (I go with electroplating as the most plausible possibility, myself)
The greeks also invented the steam engine: http://www.e-telescope.gr/en/history-and-archaeology/132-ancient-technology
The limited communication networks and cultural boundries prevented them from taking it any further.
Prepare to have your mind fucking blown.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIubSGIRPbM
I like Doug Stanhope very true.
Ill give you a few little excerpts that are interesting.
'When civilization fails for any reason, metals of all kinds become precious commodities, They became knives, spear points, scraper, fish-hooks, even plows. Ancient Egypt underwent numerous upheavals caused by droughts, earthquakes, civil wars, religious strife, and foreign invasions. During the times of collapse, the advanced metal tools that the ancient Egyptians used were probably disassembled, cut apart, or melted down. What wasn't immediately used would corrode and disappear after thousands of years. And perhaps some other advanced technology was also employed, the remnants of which we wouldn't recognize today. Large saw blades and other machine tools, if not secreted away from armies, earthquakes, floods and mobs, would not endure very long. Over the millennia, few metal objects from our time would survive or be recognizable. Life after People, a popular cable television show that debuted in 2009, shows example after example of the deterioration of manmade objects after years, merely because of lack of maintenance. In five thousand years, approximately the timespan estimated in Lost Technologies of Ancient Egypt, almost nothing of today's technology would be left. In a world of resourceful (and destructive) human beings the devastation would be much worse than Mother Nature alone could cause; marauding bandits and nomads would re-use, recycle, or otherwise destroy even our ubiquitous automobile engine blocks and our porcelain toilet bowls!....... But to recognise their finds as evidence of ancient technologies, those future discoverers must have minds that are opened o the possibilities that Christopher Dunn has been the first to reveal. Otherwise, that advanced machine shop of the ancients could wind up stored in unnumbered boxes in the basement of the Egyptian Museum in Cairo, labeled merely as "funerary objects."'
p.xii
Here is another nice idea.
'With centuries of experiment and practice, those who worked in stone could have kept their knowledge secret, offering their finished products to leaders, priests and the wealthy. As dunn points out in this volume, even today trade secrets and proprietary knowledge are closely held, even in an educated worldwide civilization with widespread literacy and training. In Ancient times the impulse to secrecy may have been even more necessary for survival........ If the knowledge of a specific task, the operation of a given machine tool, or the procedure for laying out vast projects is resident in just a few people, maybe just one, then the loss of that person or group means the knowledge is gone forever, unless it is recorded. This is an eternal problem, not limited to the ancient Egyptians of five thousand years ago. As a modern example, in 1992 while working at the White House Science Office, I invited to a meeting there a person from the National Science Foundation. Although only peripheral to the agenda, this older scientist regaled us with a tale of a lost technology of modern times, namely how to start up the engines of the Saturn V rocket that took American astronauts to the Moon from 1969 to 1972. Incredibly, this leading scientist averred that no one was alive who knew how to start up the engines on the largest rocket ever flown. No on had written down the standard operating procedure, and the rocket men who had developed the technique had all passed away. So in 1992 CE or 1992 BCE or further back in time, we can find sufficient examples to demonstrate that technologies are not always lost as a result of conspiracy.
p.xiii
And just a small one that i think suggests with some subtlety to not bother with the 'power plant' his first book
I have preposed in the past that higher levels of technology were used by the Ancient Egptians, but you will find in this book that i have rejected some ideas and cast doubt on all my previous assertions as to the level of technology they enjoyed. At the same time, I cast doubt on the methods of manufacture that Egyptologists have asserted were used to build the pyramids and the glorious temples in Egypt............................."By their works, ye shall know them"'
Dunn,Lost Technologies of Ancient Egypt,p.6
Quote from: DeusExMachina on September 01, 2010, 03:44:48 PM
I like Doug Stanhope very true.
(edit, oops thought it was Doug Stanhope)
Ill give you a few little excerpts that are interesting.
'When civilization fails for any reason, metals of all kinds become precious commodities, They became knives, spear points, scraper, fish-hooks, even plows. Ancient Egypt underwent numerous upheavals caused by droughts, earthquakes, civil wars, religious strife, and foreign invasions. During the times of collapse, the advanced metal tools that the ancient Egyptians used were probably disassembled, cut apart, or melted down. What wasn't immediately used would corrode and disappear after thousands of years. And perhaps some other advanced technology was also employed, the remnants of which we wouldn't recognize today. Large saw blades and other machine tools, if not secreted away from armies, earthquakes, floods and mobs, would not endure very long. Over the millennia, few metal objects from our time would survive or be recognizable. Life after People, a popular cable television show that debuted in 2009, shows example after example of the deterioration of manmade objects after years, merely because of lack of maintenance. In five thousand years, approximately the timespan estimated in Lost Technologies of Ancient Egypt, almost nothing of today's technology would be left. In a world of resourceful (and destructive) human beings the devastation would be much worse than Mother Nature alone could cause; marauding bandits and nomads would re-use, recycle, or otherwise destroy even our ubiquitous automobile engine blocks and our porcelain toilet bowls!....... But to recognise their finds as evidence of ancient technologies, those future discoverers must have minds that are opened o the possibilities that Christopher Dunn has been the first to reveal. Otherwise, that advanced machine shop of the ancients could wind up stored in unnumbered boxes in the basement of the Egyptian Museum in Cairo, labeled merely as "funerary objects."'
p.xii
Here is another nice idea.
'With centuries of experiment and practice, those who worked in stone could have kept their knowledge secret, offering their finished products to leaders, priests and the wealthy. As dunn points out in this volume, even today trade secrets and proprietary knowledge are closely held, even in an educated worldwide civilization with widespread literacy and training. In Ancient times the impulse to secrecy may have been even more necessary for survival........ If the knowledge of a specific task, the operation of a given machine tool, or the procedure for laying out vast projects is resident in just a few people, maybe just one, then the loss of that person or group means the knowledge is gone forever, unless it is recorded. This is an eternal problem, not limited to the ancient Egyptians of five thousand years ago. As a modern example, in 1992 while working at the White House Science Office, I invited to a meeting there a person from the National Science Foundation. Although only peripheral to the agenda, this older scientist regaled us with a tale of a lost technology of modern times, namely how to start up the engines of the Saturn V rocket that took American astronauts to the Moon from 1969 to 1972. Incredibly, this leading scientist averred that no one was alive who knew how to start up the engines on the largest rocket ever flown. No on had written down the standard operating procedure, and the rocket men who had developed the technique had all passed away. So in 1992 CE or 1992 BCE or further back in time, we can find sufficient examples to demonstrate that technologies are not always lost as a result of conspiracy.
p.xiii
And just a small one that i think suggests with some subtlety to not bother with the 'power plant' his first book
I have preposed in the past that higher levels of technology were used by the Ancient Egptians, but you will find in this book that i have rejected some ideas and cast doubt on all my previous assertions as to the level of technology they enjoyed. At the same time, I cast doubt on the methods of manufacture that Egyptologists have asserted were used to build the pyramids and the glorious temples in Egypt............................."By their works, ye shall know them"'
Dunn,Lost Technologies of Ancient Egypt,p.6
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 27, 2010, 06:11:29 PM
Quote from: Secret Level on August 27, 2010, 06:09:16 PM
Ancient people could do some wicked cool shit with primitive technology. :fap: :fap: :fap:
That about sum it up?
NO, NO, PEOPLE AREN'T SMART ENOUGH TO DO THAT.
THEY HAD HELP. ALIENS CAME ALONG WITH A FULL MACHINE SHOP, AND THEN THE HUMANS FUCKED IT UP AND TURNED THE SPACEPORT INTO A GRAVE.
DUMB LITTLE MONKEYS! THAT'S WHY OUR GALACTIC SPACE BROTHERS™ NEVER CAME BACK!
Doktor you are so funny.
Bump for relevance to the new thread in apple talk. :lulz:
Shit made out of rocks that is fucking ruined = Irrefutable evidence of magic/super aliens/god.
This is a known fact.
Quote from: Sigmatic on December 21, 2010, 09:28:59 PM
Shit made out of rocks that is fucking ruined = Irrefutable evidence of magic/super aliens/god.
This is a known fact.
Also, mankind is incapable of developing much of anything. That's why we need Galactic Space Brothers™ to make stealth fighters for us. Fortunately, they all seem to work for America.
The LHC will, with any luck, be construed as a haunted summoning circle for hideous demons. Or a portal to another world that people live within and start their own star god religion, until it gets gentrified and turned into a strip mall where you can buy the best star god portal action figures.
The basic premise of this book is not that the aliens came and did it, i don't know how this has crept into this thread. It's quite simple really, people make something that looks nice, people get better than everyone else, people make techniques secret, people don't have computers or cad, people who know secrets die and don't pass on secrets.
Quote from: DeusExMachina on December 21, 2010, 10:49:23 PM
The basic premise of this book is not that the aliens came and did it, i don't know how this has crept into this thread. It's quite simple really, people make something that looks nice, people get better than everyone else, people make techniques secret, people don't have computers or cad, people who know secrets die and don't pass on secrets.
Pretty much.