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Principia Discordia => Aneristic Illusions => Topic started by: Cain on August 31, 2010, 12:24:21 PM

Title: Pangloss deceived me cruelly when he said that all is for the best in the world
Post by: Cain on August 31, 2010, 12:24:21 PM
Link (http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2010/07/an-american-utopia.html)

QuoteAmerica is a Utopian society. It aspires to an achievable perfection, a middle-class egalitarian meritocratic democracy with no kings, no pharoahs, no rulers by inheritance or divine right. In this it is different to Britain, where I grew up, which has class differences that in many ways no side really wants to erase, rather only to throw the other down, or keep them down.

Hahahahaha no.

Or, as someone else put it, "It is possible for me to have more objections to a paragraph than there are words in it?"
Title: Re: Pangloss deceived me cruelly when he said that all is for the best in the world
Post by: LMNO on August 31, 2010, 01:55:48 PM
In other news Somalia is the perfect state, because it lives up to the conservative ideals of a small government.
Title: Re: Pangloss deceived me cruelly when he said that all is for the best in the world
Post by: Placid Dingo on August 31, 2010, 01:59:43 PM
I'd say Australia is a utopian nation for our willingness to engage with other cultures in meaningful ways, and accept newcomers with open arms and compassion.
Title: Re: Pangloss deceived me cruelly when he said that all is for the best in the world
Post by: East Coast Hustle on August 31, 2010, 02:26:01 PM
That must be why your immigration department is unabashed about preferring english-speaking immigrants from predominantly white countries.

:lulz:
Title: Re: Pangloss deceived me cruelly when he said that all is for the best in the world
Post by: Placid Dingo on August 31, 2010, 02:32:57 PM
OK, so we're no America, but ALMOST as utopian
Title: Re: Pangloss deceived me cruelly when he said that all is for the best in the world
Post by: East Coast Hustle on August 31, 2010, 04:20:05 PM
hey, I'm not complaining. I qualified for a non-sponsored skilled immigration visa because of it. Which I subsequently had to turn down because I ended up having to care for my terminally ill father, but still. Nice to know I can get in pretty easily when I decide to try again.
Title: Re: Pangloss deceived me cruelly when he said that all is for the best in the world
Post by: Rumckle on September 01, 2010, 03:05:29 AM
Not any more, ECH. You're on a boat now, which means you aren't allowed into our country.
Title: Re: Pangloss deceived me cruelly when he said that all is for the best in the world
Post by: Kai on September 01, 2010, 03:30:06 AM
Ah, Pangloss. When it leaks into biology we get things like Social Darwinism.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Pangloss deceived me cruelly when he said that all is for the best in the world
Post by: Cain on September 01, 2010, 03:26:08 PM
But Social Darwinism would only be allowed to exist if this was the best of all possible worlds, Kai.
Title: Re: Pangloss deceived me cruelly when he said that all is for the best in the world
Post by: Kai on September 01, 2010, 03:55:31 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 01, 2010, 03:26:08 PM
But Social Darwinism would only be allowed to exist if this was the best of all possible worlds, Kai.

:lulz: Fuck Pangloss. Voltaire was trolling everyone with that thing.
Title: Re: Pangloss deceived me cruelly when he said that all is for the best in the world
Post by: Cain on September 01, 2010, 04:00:25 PM
Yes, but especially Liebniz.  Shame all these liberals who whine on about "holding up Enlightenment values" actually have no fucking clue what those values are, and keep repeating the errors of the past.
Title: Re: Pangloss deceived me cruelly when he said that all is for the best in the world
Post by: Kai on September 01, 2010, 08:49:09 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 01, 2010, 04:00:25 PM
Yes, but especially Liebniz.  Shame all these liberals who whine on about "holding up Enlightenment values" actually have no fucking clue what those values are, and keep repeating the errors of the past.

Definitely.