Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Literate Chaotic => Topic started by: Disco Pickle on September 03, 2010, 07:00:00 PM

Title: Illuminatus! for the first time.
Post by: Disco Pickle on September 03, 2010, 07:00:00 PM
So I just reached the point where the two people, dressed as clowns, argue different sides of an issue.

I wasn't feeling terribly impressed with this book up until this point in the story.

This may have been the most enlightening moment in the trilogy, caused me to question why I've ever taken a position on any issue, ever, and made me feel like the entire acid trip of a book was worth reading.

I still liked Schrodingers Cat better though.

Title: Re: Illuminatus! for the first time.
Post by: Triple Zero on September 03, 2010, 09:33:04 PM
My edition on the book said on the cover text that you don't really get "in" to the story until page 100 ... or was it 300 .. well, somewhere. Not that the first bit isn't good, but just that nothing really seems to make sense at first.
Title: Re: Illuminatus! for the first time.
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on September 03, 2010, 09:35:38 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on September 03, 2010, 09:33:04 PM
My edition on the book said on the cover text that you don't really get "in" to the story until page 100 ... or was it 300 .. well, somewhere. Not that the first bit isn't good, but just that nothing really seems to make sense at first.

Yep, it made no sense to me until about 3/4 the way through the first book... about halfway through the second book it actually felt like I was actually reading a book rather than having RAW vomit on  my brain for fun.
Title: Re: Illuminatus! for the first time.
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on September 03, 2010, 11:48:16 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on September 03, 2010, 09:35:38 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on September 03, 2010, 09:33:04 PM
My edition on the book said on the cover text that you don't really get "in" to the story until page 100 ... or was it 300 .. well, somewhere. Not that the first bit isn't good, but just that nothing really seems to make sense at first.

Yep, it made no sense to me until about 3/4 the way through the first book... about halfway through the second book it actually felt like I was actually reading a book rather than having RAW vomit on  my brain for fun.

Such as repeating the long descriptions of the leaders of US, Soviet Union and China verbatim.
On the bright side you see htat sort of shit coming and can skim to the end of it.
Title: Re: Illuminatus! for the first time.
Post by: Disco Pickle on September 05, 2010, 04:50:56 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on September 03, 2010, 11:48:16 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on September 03, 2010, 09:35:38 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on September 03, 2010, 09:33:04 PM
My edition on the book said on the cover text that you don't really get "in" to the story until page 100 ... or was it 300 .. well, somewhere. Not that the first bit isn't good, but just that nothing really seems to make sense at first.

Yep, it made no sense to me until about 3/4 the way through the first book... about halfway through the second book it actually felt like I was actually reading a book rather than having RAW vomit on  my brain for fun.

Such as repeating the long descriptions of the leaders of US, Soviet Union and China verbatim.
On the bright side you see htat sort of shit coming and can skim to the end of it.

the whole book seems like a really long joke so in that sense, it's entertaining..  other than that, I've found myself wondering why I keep turning the page at times.

Maybe I'm just a masochistic reader.  I'm not willing to discount this theory, as I also some how made it through an entire Laurel K. Hamilton book without setting it on fire, in the hopes that it wouldn't infect anyone else.
Title: Re: Illuminatus! for the first time.
Post by: Triple Zero on September 05, 2010, 05:20:34 PM
No, Schroedinger's Cat was a really, really really long dick joke :) Illuminatus is ... well it doesn't really have a punchline, it's just got awesome bits.
Title: Re: Illuminatus! for the first time.
Post by: Faust on September 05, 2010, 06:32:14 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on September 03, 2010, 11:48:16 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on September 03, 2010, 09:35:38 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on September 03, 2010, 09:33:04 PM
My edition on the book said on the cover text that you don't really get "in" to the story until page 100 ... or was it 300 .. well, somewhere. Not that the first bit isn't good, but just that nothing really seems to make sense at first.

Yep, it made no sense to me until about 3/4 the way through the first book... about halfway through the second book it actually felt like I was actually reading a book rather than having RAW vomit on  my brain for fun.

Such as repeating the long descriptions of the leaders of US, Soviet Union and China verbatim.
On the bright side you see htat sort of shit coming and can skim to the end of it.
I always read those in full, and giggled the whole way through.
Title: Re: Illuminatus! for the first time.
Post by: Cramulus on September 07, 2010, 03:30:09 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on September 03, 2010, 09:35:38 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on September 03, 2010, 09:33:04 PM
My edition on the book said on the cover text that you don't really get "in" to the story until page 100 ... or was it 300 .. well, somewhere. Not that the first bit isn't good, but just that nothing really seems to make sense at first.

Yep, it made no sense to me until about 3/4 the way through the first book... about halfway through the second book it actually felt like I was actually reading a book rather than having RAW vomit on  my brain for fun.

I think the trilogy goes through the five discordians seasons pretty well

in the beginning is Chaos - nothing makes sense yet, it's all over the place

it gradually gets more ordered, like a traditional novel

by the climax of the book, we're in Bureaucracy - the narrative is pretty coherent, the story is focused

and then by the end of the book, Aftermath is rising and it starts to get kooky again.



I love Illuminatus, I really do. so much that I own a copy just for lending. It's just too bad that some of the points it makes are getting kind of dated -- I mean, one of the big revolutions in the book is the interracial romance. Which was probably a bit more ground breaking when it was published.
Title: Re: Illuminatus! for the first time.
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on September 07, 2010, 05:40:22 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on September 07, 2010, 03:30:09 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on September 03, 2010, 09:35:38 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on September 03, 2010, 09:33:04 PM
My edition on the book said on the cover text that you don't really get "in" to the story until page 100 ... or was it 300 .. well, somewhere. Not that the first bit isn't good, but just that nothing really seems to make sense at first.

Yep, it made no sense to me until about 3/4 the way through the first book... about halfway through the second book it actually felt like I was actually reading a book rather than having RAW vomit on  my brain for fun.

I think the trilogy goes through the five discordians seasons pretty well

in the beginning is Chaos - nothing makes sense yet, it's all over the place

it gradually gets more ordered, like a traditional novel

by the climax of the book, we're in Bureaucracy - the narrative is pretty coherent, the story is focused

and then by the end of the book, Aftermath is rising and it starts to get kooky again.



I love Illuminatus, I really do. so much that I own a copy just for lending. It's just too bad that some of the points it makes are getting kind of dated -- I mean, one of the big revolutions in the book is the interracial romance. Which was probably a bit more ground breaking when it was published.

I kept the time period in mind. The characters also have back stories which firmly put them in the appropriate time period.
Title: Re: Illuminatus! for the first time.
Post by: the last yatto on September 08, 2010, 04:30:35 AM
You know there's a sequel right
Quote from: Pēleus on August 20, 2010, 07:29:43 PM
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Title: Re: Illuminatus! for the first time.
Post by: Requia ☣ on September 08, 2010, 04:56:52 AM
I don't think that has any direct link to Illuminatus, the publishers description makes is sound like a scifi/AR fanfic of the fall of troy.
Title: Re: Illuminatus! for the first time.
Post by: Telarus on September 08, 2010, 05:14:13 AM
The Schrodinger's Cat Trilogy is usually considered the sequel...
Title: Re: Illuminatus! for the first time.
Post by: the last yatto on September 08, 2010, 07:27:07 AM
Well the one written by RAW, but the style of discord's apple is reading simular well minus the fnords