Quote from: BadBeast on September 07, 2010, 04:50:11 PM
Quote from: Pēleus on September 07, 2010, 03:15:05 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on August 29, 2010, 10:32:24 PM
If the Motorcycle you are riding, reveals itself to be incorrect, then the best option is to dismount immediately. The later you leave it, the moar it's going to hurt. It's no good just pressing on onwards towards your destination, and hoping nobody will notice. They will. And they will notice that you noticed too If you arrived here with any credibility, be prepared to it all. The correct Motorcycle can only be found by lurking around there forum, and paying attention. And even then, it's not a guaranteed thing. Good luck.
What if the motorcycle wasn't really correct in the sense of being wrong or incorrect but how well it runs or if it needs repair. Some cycles burn oil, some have a bad muffler and others have a loose chain or a broken head light.
In that case, then it's really a judgement call, if it's general roadworthiness seems to be a little wanting, then that would not necessarily preclude it's eventual arrival at the expected destination. However, if it clearly hasn't got a chance of limping another mile or two, then it would probably be prudent to stop and attempt a little roadside maintenance. If it's state of repair is beyond your expertise to significantly extend it's useful life, then it might be better to cut your losses, and wait for a bus. Then, when a motorcycle with sufficient correctness quotient presents itself, you will be able to decide objectively whether to continue to your destination on said vehicle, or just stay on the bus. There are a lot more factors to consider IN ventures like this, than many people realise, so it's best to make the most informed decision you can. Then, when you are decided upon a course, you must bear in mind that many factors are impossible to take into consideration, (earthquakes, Zombies, etc) so there is always an uncertainty that keeps you constantly looking out for another potentiality.
Hope this helps. 8)
:pax: I claim this theory in the name of discordia
However, if you want a Motorcycle that will at least, be correct most of the time, and never, to my knowledge be the wrong Motorcycle, might I suggest the Yamaha XT650?
Incorrect. This is in fact the correct :motorcycle:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 04, 2010, 01:24:24 AM
Incorrect. This is in fact the correct :motorcycle:
That little fairy bike? That's what Santa's little Elf helpers ride around the toy factory on! THIS, is a proper motorcycle!
(http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr304/rompa/motorcycles/speed_triple_download1.jpg)
Oh, yeah.
You're new. :lulz:
THERE IS ONLY ONE MOTORCYCLE, AND IT IS YOUR MOTORCYCLE. ONLY THROUGH YOUR MOTORCYCLE SHALL YE BE STUCK IN THE MUD.
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Quote from: BadBeast on November 04, 2010, 01:41:44 AM
That little fairy bike? That's what Santa's little Elf helpers ride around the toy factory on! THIS, is a proper motorcycle!
(http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr304/rompa/motorcycles/speed_triple_download1.jpg)
Awfully ugly, innit?
just because there is no "correct" motorcycle but there sure as fuck a wrong ones. No one takes a crotch rocket to a biker bar, just like someone doesn't take a dirt bike to a race track, unless there is mud.
Each cycle needs maintence to run properly...
Quote from: First City Hustle on November 04, 2010, 03:31:26 AM
Quote from: BadBeast on November 04, 2010, 01:41:44 AM
That little fairy bike? That's what Santa's little Elf helpers ride around the toy factory on! THIS, is a proper motorcycle!
(http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr304/rompa/motorcycles/speed_triple_download1.jpg)
Awfully ugly, innit?
It is a bit, but it's a Triumph. They scrub up quite well as Chops too though.
(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk168/Nickel-Plate/Motorcycles/IMG_0448.jpg)
A few years ago, my Mate restored a 1940's Indian 841, in his front room. Now that was a terribly correct motorcycle. It was only ever used in a Carny "Wall of Death" Show, and it had been standing unused for 20 years. He had to machine any parts he couldn't get hold of himself, but he took it right back to showroom condition. Beautiful bike, loads more class than a Harley. Which isn't hard, going by the reputation Harleys have here for being overpriced, unreliable, unwieldy, and just plain ugly. But Indians are beautiful. And genuine American Classics.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/conwi1wd/American%20Motorcycles/Indian_841.jpg)
The only people in this thread that are riding the correct motorcycle are ECH and Roger.
Motorcycle Maintenance Without the Zen
How Pirsig's Mistakes About Atheism Continue Today
by Chris Edwards
http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/10-04-28/#feature
Quote from: Able on January 06, 2011, 09:02:01 PM
Motorcycle Maintenance Without the Zen
How Pirsig's Mistakes About Atheism Continue Today
by Chris Edwards
http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/10-04-28/#feature
That was a poorly constructed article - I'm not sure that this Chris Edwards guy actually understood Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance.
For one, the writer is coming from a position which treats schizophrenia and religious faith as the same thing. Which is rather naive.
Second, the book has jack squat to do with atheism - the writer is making a big leap to frame Pirsig's critique of scientific materialism as an attack on atheism. Pirsig doesn't even make a full attack on scientific materialism, his goal is to reunify it with aesthetics.
to argue against zen is to misunderstand zen.
the book's not really about zen either
Oh. :lol:
SHOULD your motorcycle wobble, replace or fix it.
NEVER let your motorcycle sit in the garage too long.
WEAR proper safety gear when operating your motorcycle.
BE sure to signal when changing lanes. IF weather is inclement, ride with caution.
ONLY use your motorcycle for roads it was designed for.
SAME goes for reality models, obviously.
Thanks cram, I didn't finish the book,
After reading the intro, kinda gave away the ending
Totally ruined my mood, so far let three other people read it
I really like that book. I'm sorry the ending got blown for you - it was stupid of pirsig to give away the twist in the forward.
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=16020.msg511096#msg511096
Gave away the entire books theme, and while it didn't say it. It read like he was trying to replace the meme "your body is a temple" with "your body is a motorcycle"
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Quote from: Cramulus on January 06, 2011, 09:34:05 PM
the book's not really about zen either
Isn't there a lot more Greek philosophy than Zen in the book?
I've put a copy on my Kindle but I've been distracted by other reading.
TGRR, is that a particular motorcycle in your emote of the correct motorcycle? is it an enduro type bike?
also, is ZatAoMM a fairly quick read? i believe i recall seeing it in the store, and it being a slender book of modest size... if so, i'd like to wedge it into my reading stack...
this is one of my motorcycles next to some rocks i found in the woods.
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5245/5337471641_a6f22e88bf.jpg)
Quote from: Able on January 07, 2011, 12:36:30 AM
Thanks cram, I didn't finish the book,
After reading the intro, kinda gave away the ending
Totally ruined my mood, so far let three other people read it
I had the exact same thing. I was reading the forward... and there isn't even a fucking SPOILER ALERT, ITS JUST, HEY GUYS JUST SO YOU KNOW THERES THIS TWIST IN THE STORY SO JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T MISS IT HERE IT IS NOW FOR YOU.
Fuck that.
Quote from: Cain on January 08, 2011, 03:52:59 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on January 06, 2011, 09:34:05 PM
the book's not really about zen either
Isn't there a lot more Greek philosophy than Zen in the book?
yeah, mostly greek philosophy. He's really focused on this divide between the classical and romantic worlds. That split manifests as a tension between arts and sciences. Pirsig thinks that this is originally Aristotle's fault and talks about the ways that we've reified this bad Ancient Greek idea over the centuries. He also talks about how more modern philosophers (Hume, off the top of my head) deal with these problems.
Quote from: Iptuous on January 08, 2011, 04:29:39 PM
also, is ZatAoMM a fairly quick read? i believe i recall seeing it in the store, and it being a slender book of modest size... if so, i'd like to wedge it into my reading stack...
It's pretty dense, but he writes in a conversational tone. I had to read a bunch of stuff twice because he's talking about philosophy, and I find that more comprehensible if I read it slowly.
As for the book's spoiler:
I find the book's plot is kind of secondary to the ideas he's discussing. It bites to have the twist spoiled, but I think it's still a good read even if you know what's up. (providing that talking about Quality doesn't bore the pants off of you)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ypJnDZ0QDkY/SBvEu02XWWI/AAAAAAAACZM/mAaCO93TrGQ/s400/unibike.jpg)
The correct motorcycle depends entirely on where you're going and how you want to get there.