http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100910/ap_on_re_us/us_gays_in_military
I guess being gay has no bearing on your combat readiness.
Also a bunch of gay Republicans seem to be behind this.
ETA: I just read this over due to he lack of emoticons, I might be coming off as opposed to this. Which I am not. I think this judge is right.
From the comment section:
QuoteMy father, grandfather and I served. My middle son also served - together we put in over 60 years - I have seen what becomes of difficult situations or people of low principles Situations can change with the wind. Most of the people that want to be in the service are there because they want to get a career – job security, and a value of pride in knowing your uniform and acts mean something. It is very easy for pundits or people that have fringe beliefs to make choices and force them the public. We at the same time who have served or serve know that it is not our duty to judge – only follow orders. This service today is a volunteer group of young men and women. They are our next and best greatest generation to come. How can you decide that it is up to lawmakers to force something so difficult to police such as this change with allowing homosexuals to serve. I would not nor never disagree a person should be allowed to serve if they have a simple weakness such a this form of expression but that weakness become one more tool that breaks down the good order and discipline for survival. I have seen both sexual preferences (male or female lovers of the same sex) work in isolated locations and do just as well as the accepted love style but once the factor of sexual preference becomes a known the moral breaks down – order is no longer kept and life is placed in jeopardy. Sometimes it is the homosexuals or it can be the other way around. Let us face a reality. We have to treat all people equally but would you want someone that announces and exhibits their sexual preference to serve with your child in an isolated incidence or would you want a person that keeps the fact of what they like to do in the bedroom a private matter. I asked my son to get out of the service and he is – He is very proud of the things he did just like me but when politicians cloud the waters by not signing a book such as the Code of Conduct because they secret are violating the very same rules the subordinates MUST enforce there is something wrong. For eight year under one president, we had people breaking laws while in the service, all because their Commander in Chief could get away with it. Now a law is to be imposing to tell people "you will serve and not let the issue of sexual preference bother you". The fact is some can do it but there will be people that no matter which side of the fence they wag their tail cannot. The truth will come out or divisions will create at the mess-deck table even more. I have seen gangs of lesbians room ships looking for a person they fancied and once they almost had the net set the females that were squared away had to side up with a male partner. In some cases because of the closeness they formed relationships (she for protection and he because of the gender desire) the results was either the young 17 year old girl joined the ball teal and became part of the lust circle or the girl became pregnant to get off the ship. This stuff goes on without any CO ever being able to stay on top of it. The Chiefs are doing all they can but when the ship becomes a floating world life must go on.
To believe this cannot affect the good order and safety of those serving is as stupid as saying we are helping the world by spreading democracy and they are not in a holy war. A dead service man is still a dead service man. I hope ever parent goes to their politicians and begs them to stop this liberal Hollywood deviate tasking agenda. We need our sanity back in this country.
:lulz:
By this logic, military service people should not be allowed to have sort of sexual contact whatsoever. Well, except one day a year, in which they may have a massive bisexual orgy. Maybe this guy's on to something...
could not read block of retard. :lulz:
Quoteliberal Hollywood deviate tasking agenda
Makes me :lulz: cuz it's the Log Cabin Republicans backing this. I guess conservative men that like to bang other men in the ass are really liberals.
Well yeah. A real Republican is always straight.
Quote from: Cain on September 10, 2010, 03:12:49 PM
Well yeah. A real Republican is always straight.
In public..... :|
:lulz:
Seriously though, I don't think we can base our acceptance into the military on one's sexual preference. It's not like their out there literally fucking the "enemy". Just shooting them, anybody can do that once they are trained right?
Quote from: Kiaransalee on September 10, 2010, 03:17:36 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 10, 2010, 03:12:49 PM
Well yeah. A real Republican is always straight.
In public..... :|
:lulz:
Seriously though, I don't think we can base our acceptance into the military on one's sexual preference. It's not like their out there literally fucking the "enemy". Just shooting them, anybody can do that once they are trained right?
Homophobes don't want to bunk or shower with gays.
Add in the large amount of propaganda that gets spread about how our Muslim foes practice such things as 'man love Thursday" or 'only have sex with women for reproduction and generally just fuck other dudes for fun' and it makes a general feeling of mistrust and disdain towards homosexual. Basically who started all this "our enemies are all men loving fags who want to blow you up" stands to lose a lot of animosity towards our 'enemies' if gays are allowed to openly serve.
Quote from: Charley Brown on September 10, 2010, 03:21:23 PM
Quote from: Kiaransalee on September 10, 2010, 03:17:36 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 10, 2010, 03:12:49 PM
Well yeah. A real Republican is always straight.
In public..... :|
:lulz:
Seriously though, I don't think we can base our acceptance into the military on one's sexual preference. It's not like their out there literally fucking the "enemy". Just shooting them, anybody can do that once they are trained right?
Homophobes don't want to bunk or shower with gays.
Well yeah, I figured that, so why don't they do their whole mental mumbo jumbo bullshit on the homophobes to not be homophobic? I mean they mind rape you anyway, can't they make it have a bit of a positive result?
Quote from: Cudgel on September 10, 2010, 03:26:19 PM
Add in the large amount of propaganda that gets spread about how our Muslim foes practice such things as 'man love Thursday" or 'only have sex with women for reproduction and generally just fuck other dudes for fun' and it makes a general feeling of mistrust and disdain towards homosexual. Basically who started all this "our enemies are all men loving fags who want to blow you up" stands to lose a lot of animosity towards our 'enemies' if gays are allowed to openly serve.
Wait, Mulsims are on the down low? :lulz:
I'm sorry there are times I just can't help myself.
Quote from: Kiaransalee on September 10, 2010, 03:30:35 PM
Wait, Mulsims are on the down low? :lulz:
I'm sorry there are times I just can't help myself.
I gave up explaining how stupid that was after the first 3 months of my deployment. And it isn't just limited to the 'enemy' any local nationals that work on the installations are talked about as if they are all secret fags and thus are lesser than the mighty American soldiers who beat off to illegal porn.
About the truck drivers, "Not only do you have make sure they don't just make off with the truck and it's cargo, or take a break randomly, but they are all gay"
I escorted a lot of crap up and down Kuwait, and unless it is super duper secret important military hardware, or going through scary parts of Iraq, they use contracted labor and civilian semis to do the hauling. So I heard a lot of bad talk about the drivers, and not much I could do the stop it.
Quote from: Cudgel on September 10, 2010, 03:44:06 PM
Quote from: Kiaransalee on September 10, 2010, 03:30:35 PM
Wait, Mulsims are on the down low? :lulz:
I'm sorry there are times I just can't help myself.
I gave up explaining how stupid that was after the first 3 months of my deployment. And it isn't just limited to the 'enemy' any local nationals that work on the installations are talked about as if they are all secret fags and thus are lesser than the mighty American soldiers who beat off to illegal porn.
About the truck drivers, "Not only do you have make sure they don't just make off with the truck and it's cargo, or take a break randomly, but they are all gay"
I escorted a lot of crap up and down Kuwait, and unless it is super duper secret important military hardware, or going through scary parts of Iraq, they use contracted labor and civilian semis to do the hauling. So I heard a lot of bad talk about the drivers, and not much I could do the stop it.
Err, I was just joking....
Quote from: Cudgel on September 10, 2010, 03:44:06 PM
Quote from: Kiaransalee on September 10, 2010, 03:30:35 PM
Wait, Mulsims are on the down low? :lulz:
I'm sorry there are times I just can't help myself.
I gave up explaining how stupid that was after the first 3 months of my deployment. And it isn't just limited to the 'enemy' any local nationals that work on the installations are talked about as if they are all secret fags and thus are lesser than the mighty American soldiers who beat off to illegal porn.
About the truck drivers, "Not only do you have make sure they don't just make off with the truck and it's cargo, or take a break randomly, but they are all gay"
I escorted a lot of crap up and down Kuwait, and unless it is super duper secret important military hardware, or going through scary parts of Iraq, they use contracted labor and civilian semis to do the hauling. So I heard a lot of bad talk about the drivers, and not much I could do the stop it.
I believe this is a result of cultural differences. To Arabs American soldiers appear to be catamites, because they are clean shaven and the way in which they groom. So the Arabs hit on our soldiers a lot.
SAN DIEGO – A federal judge issued a worldwide injunction Tuesday immediately stopping enforcement of the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy, suspending the 17-year-old ban on openly gay U.S. troops.
U.S. District Judge Virginia Phillips' landmark ruling also ordered the government to suspend and discontinue all pending discharge proceedings and investigations under the policy.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101012/ap_on_re_us/us_gays_in_military
Quote from: Charley Brown on September 10, 2010, 03:21:23 PM
Quote from: Kiaransalee on September 10, 2010, 03:17:36 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 10, 2010, 03:12:49 PM
Well yeah. A real Republican is always straight.
In public..... :|
:lulz:
Seriously though, I don't think we can base our acceptance into the military on one's sexual preference. It's not like their out there literally fucking the "enemy". Just shooting them, anybody can do that once they are trained right?
Homophobes don't want to bunk or shower with gays.
And racists don't want to bunk or shower with black men. So.. fuck their delicate opinions.
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 13, 2010, 05:20:21 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on September 10, 2010, 03:21:23 PM
Quote from: Kiaransalee on September 10, 2010, 03:17:36 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 10, 2010, 03:12:49 PM
Well yeah. A real Republican is always straight.
In public..... :|
:lulz:
Seriously though, I don't think we can base our acceptance into the military on one's sexual preference. It's not like their out there literally fucking the "enemy". Just shooting them, anybody can do that once they are trained right?
Homophobes don't want to bunk or shower with gays.
And racists don't want to bunk or shower with black men. So.. fuck their delicate opinions.
THIS.
If your bias interferes with your ability to do your duty, then you shouldn't be in the military.
I would be ecstatic if some of the bigots quit the military over this.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on October 13, 2010, 03:55:15 PM
I would be ecstatic if some of the bigots quit the military over this.
So would I. I have had to endure too many rants by bigots over gays being able to openly serve.
I'd love it if some military folk could give us some insight about this. What's the internal chatter like, how is the military bracing itself?
appropriate news headlines (copyright; licenses available for interested Media outlets):
JUDGE LEGALIZES U.S. NAVY
GAYS LINE UP BEHIND NEW OPENINGS IN MILITARY
ARMY DROPS BAN, PANTS
US MILITARY: FROM DRAB TO FAB
MILITARY ABANDONS GAYDAR PROJECT
I eagerly anticipate next week's gay soldier memes
I still maintain that homosexuals and bisexuals should be exempted from serving in the US military, along with their straight, asexual and otherwise still living counterparts.
Our military is saving the world from over population and eventual starvation. You should thank them.
Quote from: Charley Brown on October 13, 2010, 05:23:33 PM
Our military is saving the world from over population and eventual starvation. You should thank them.
Wars result in a net population gain.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 13, 2010, 05:23:58 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on October 13, 2010, 05:23:33 PM
Our military is saving the world from over population and eventual starvation. You should thank them.
Wars result in a net population gain.
Only if they end, right?
Quote from: Charley Brown on October 13, 2010, 05:25:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 13, 2010, 05:23:58 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on October 13, 2010, 05:23:33 PM
Our military is saving the world from over population and eventual starvation. You should thank them.
Wars result in a net population gain.
Only if they end, right?
Apparently not.
People fuck faster than you can shoot them.
I nominate Tim Gunn for Defense Secretary of FAAABULOUS!
I can only imagine what a Re-make of Top Gun set in modern times would be like.
:fap:
LOLOBAMA
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/15/us/politics/15military.html?_r=1
QuoteThe Obama administration said it plans to appeal a ruling striking down the law (DADT), and asked a federal judge for an emergency stay of her decision.
DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH ON THAT SECOND TERM, BARRY
Quote from: Cain on October 15, 2010, 03:10:35 PM
LOLOBAMA
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/15/us/politics/15military.html?_r=1
QuoteThe Obama administration said it plans to appeal a ruling striking down the law (DADT), and asked a federal judge for an emergency stay of her decision.
the fact that the lawsuit was brought by The Log Cabin Republicans..
OH THE IRONY!! :horrormirth:
Quote from: Cramulus on October 15, 2010, 03:12:22 PM
DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH ON THAT SECOND TERM, BARRY
Well, if he kisses ass on the GOP enough, they'll vote for him, right?
REMEMBER THOUGH, SUGGESTING ANY PARALLELS BETWEEN OBAMA AND BUSH MAKES YOU A WHACKED OUT LEFT WING EXTREMIST WHO SHOULD PROBABLY STOP TAKING DRUGS.
Quote from: Cain on October 15, 2010, 03:10:35 PM
LOLOBAMA
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/15/us/politics/15military.html?_r=1
QuoteThe Obama administration said it plans to appeal a ruling striking down the law (DADT), and asked a federal judge for an emergency stay of her decision.
What'd you expect? He's from Chicago. Someone is challenging his power, so he HAS to fight them. Doesn't matter if he pisses off his base, because he'll just buy the election again. :lol:
Chicago isn't in Kenya.
On the other side, if he didn't fight it... the GOP would have lots of fodder for the next salvo of commercials. *Local Candidate Like Obama... and Obama likes teh Gays in the Military!!*
The GOP does political commercials based in fact now?
Quote from: Phox on October 15, 2010, 04:34:18 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 15, 2010, 03:10:35 PM
LOLOBAMA
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/15/us/politics/15military.html?_r=1
QuoteThe Obama administration said it plans to appeal a ruling striking down the law (DADT), and asked a federal judge for an emergency stay of her decision.
What'd you expect? He's from Chicago. Someone is challenging his power, so he HAS to fight them. Doesn't matter if he pisses off his base, because he'll just buy the election again. :lol:
IS HE A KENYAN SOCIALIST COMMIE FASCIST, TOO?
Quote from: Cain on October 15, 2010, 04:57:23 PM
The GOP does political commercials based in fact now?
:mittens:
Quote from: Ratatosk on October 15, 2010, 04:56:36 PM
On the other side, if he didn't fight it... the GOP would have lots of fodder for the next salvo of commercials. *Local Candidate Like Obama... and Obama likes teh Gays in the Military!!*
And that would harm his chances with his base or the center...HOW, exactly? The people that would respond to that add are going to vote for Palin, anyway.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 15, 2010, 04:58:39 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on October 15, 2010, 04:56:36 PM
On the other side, if he didn't fight it... the GOP would have lots of fodder for the next salvo of commercials. *Local Candidate Like Obama... and Obama likes teh Gays in the Military!!*
And that would harm his chances with his base or the center...HOW, exactly? The people that would respond to that add are going to vote for Palin, anyway.
Apparently the GOP has replaced Obama's advisors with robots who tell him 95% of Americans are now Teabaggers.